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Feuer Frei!
05-24-11, 07:32 AM
Everyone will agree history was made in Tahrir Square and Egypt's politics took a great step forward with the ouster of President Hosni Mubarak. But have Egypt's economics taken a big step backwards?
One of the generals running the country presented a picture of his country's economy that made me think, "What in the World?"
He says foreign direct investment is now down to zero. Egypt's foreign reserves are fast getting depleted. Then there's the tourism industry, which employs 2 million people but is sitting idle with the world continuing to shun the Pyramids of Giza and cruises down the Nile.
That's $1 billion of lost revenue every month. Growth has crawled to a standstill.
Meanwhile, tens of thousands of workers, emboldened with a new sense of freedom, are staging strikes to demand better pay. Confronting them would mean work stoppages. Appeasing them will cost money, and the state's coffers aren't exactly overflowing.
Then there's oil. The revolutions of the Middle East has sparked a cycle of pain in the crude markets. Look at three countries that have been hit hardest by people power movements - Egypt, Tunisia, Syria. They are all oil importers. Egypt then will go from growth in 2010 to shrinking GDPs this year.
Now, look at their neighbors who managed to stave off the wave of protests through a mix of bribery and appeasement - Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. They're all net oil exporters with vast cash reserves.
Unlike previous years, the gulf countries, the oil-rich countries, actually want oil prices to be priced higher because they need the cash. They need to support their own spending plans for new cities and to more payouts to suppress dissent. For the first time in history, oil is averaging nearly $100 a barrel for more than a year. Even the Saudis need that cash. If Egypt's economy doesn't stabilize soon, the IMF will soon come knocking on its door. And what will it demand? Economic reform to promote growth, of course, which means what? A devaluation of Egypt's currency, possibly? The reduction of subsidies? The privatization of industries? Anything to get the fiscal house in order and generate new economic growth.
Those policy changes made by Gamal Mubarak in 2004 onwards triggered strong growth in Egypt, though also unequaled growth and charges that it unduly profited friends of the regime.
Over the last decades, however, countries from China to Brazil have found that if you want economic growth, the surest path is reforms that open your economy up to markets and trade. But no Egyptian politician is going to say that today. So the demands of economics will bump up against the demands of politics.
Who will win? Egypt's future might depend on finding a creative solution to this problem.


SOURCE (http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/23/egypts-ruined-economy/)

the_tyrant
05-24-11, 08:21 AM
usually revolutions are bad for the economy
which is odd, considering that the reason these people are fighting are often for better economic conditions

CCIP
05-24-11, 08:30 AM
Well in the short term, any shock to the existing system is going to upset the economy. Which I don't think necessarily reflects long-term effects.

At least for the tourism industry, I suspect it will bounce back eventually, assuming the country can get more stable. For all the bad PR of revolution, there is the great PR of thousands of years of history + some nice beaches that will probably keep drawing people in. Likewise, the strategic position of Egypt shouldn't be underestimated.

But of course it all depends on how well it'll all be managed. IMO a corrupt pro-western regime wasn't inherently good at it, stability being its only selling point. But how corrupt and bad a new regime will be remains to be seen.

You could also just argue that the current problems with foreign investment aren't the result of the 'new Egypt' being bad for investment, but more a result of a previous bad investment in assumed stability, which crashed and burned. I hope that's the lesson investors learn: doesn't pay to make deals with undemocratic regimes, in a long term anyway.

Bakkels
05-24-11, 10:57 AM
One of the generals running the country presented a picture of his country's economy that made me think, "What in the World?"

That's the most important sentence of that article.
Mubarak may have resigned, and they got rid of a lot of corrupt politicians, but the army traditionaly has a lot of power in Egypt. Now they are not nearly as oppressive as in Libya for example, but they do have a very large amount of power and influence. Of course this general likes to exaggerate the economic damage to end the unrest and get people to go back to their jobs before they start addressing the role of the military in Egyptian politics.
Of course this revolution has had adverse economic influence, but it's not nearly as bad as the situation Greece for example is in..
I suspect as CCIP said tourism will bounce back shortly.

Platapus
05-24-11, 02:51 PM
A billion dollars a month in lost tourism revenue. A billion a month?

Is that right? Seems like a lotta money per month to me.

Bakkels
05-24-11, 05:05 PM
That's what made me look closer at who was quoted in the source ;)
One billion seemed a bit steep to me too.