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kiwi_2005
05-13-11, 07:34 PM
Those born 1920-1969

First, You have survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, You were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

You had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when You rode Your bikes, You had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As infants & children, You would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

You drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

You shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

You ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-aid made with sugar, but You weren't overweight because,

WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

You would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And You were OK.

You would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes After running into the bushes a few times, You learned to solve the problem.

You did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computer! s, no Internet or chat rooms......

You HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

You fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

You ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

You were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although You were told it would happen, You did not poke out very many eyes.

You rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if You broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50+ years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

You had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and You learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

If YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS!

Freiwillige
05-13-11, 09:17 PM
I was born in 1972 and I had it all just like it was listed above. Maybe 69' is a bit to soon for the cutoff?

CCIP
05-13-11, 09:22 PM
Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said :D

FIREWALL
05-14-11, 12:10 AM
Those born 1920-1969

First, You have survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, You were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

You had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when You rode Your bikes, You had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As infants & children, You would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

You drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

You shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

You ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-aid made with sugar, but You weren't overweight because,

WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!

You would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day. And You were OK.

You would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes After running into the bushes a few times, You learned to solve the problem.

You did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all, no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computer! s, no Internet or chat rooms......

You HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

You fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

You ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

You were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and, although You were told it would happen, You did not poke out very many eyes.

You rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if You broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50+ years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

You had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and You learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

If YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS!



All I got to say is ...:up::up::up::salute::salute::salute::yep::yep:: yep:

Diopos
05-14-11, 12:26 AM
And still going on ...

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Stealhead
05-14-11, 12:28 AM
Actually alot of that stuff was still the case in the 1980s I was born past your cut of date by a few years and that describes me for the most part what you said I never ate worms though and there are no street lights in a forest.And my mother never smoked in her life and she does not really drink(that is only bad if the mother is a total alcoholic anyway the baby getting harmed)

I agree with your point but just because kid these days have exposure to all this newer stuff it does not mean that they are all fat and lazy it all depends more on ones parents and how you grow up more so than your birth generation that effects the kind of person you will be.If you have bad parenting you have a good chance of being a moron later in life. or you will see their failure and become a better person.

For example a guy that lived down the road form me as kid his parents always got him out trouble in school/with the law they always got him onto the football team but he could not muster it when he got to college without their support now as an adult he seems unable to keep a good job I wonder why.:hmmm:

I on the other hand I never got bailed out by my folks for school troubles and never got in trouble with the law in the first place and I have had several great jobs over the years.

magic452
05-14-11, 12:40 AM
Been there, done that. :woot:

Mom use to say" I think he still lives here because there is a lot of food missing and I still find dirty cloths." She also use to say "dinner is at 6 if you're here you eat, if you're not here you don't. God bless moms.

Magic

Armistead
05-14-11, 12:48 AM
Born is 63,

One TV, 3 channels

Don't know about you guys, but Moms cooked full course home cooked meal nightly, mine did

BB guns, we had shotguns and rifles by 13 and went out shooting on our own.

We may have had two obese kids in school due to genetics.

I walked a mile to school everyday from 2nd grade in that small town.

Yep, seemed all parents smoked...

Kids got yelled at and we didn't fall apart later in life when bosses yelled at us.

Toys, I saw them at christmas and birthdays, bout it, we picked up sticks a kids and played army and never needed to shoot up schools.

Yep, different times......

CCIP
05-14-11, 12:52 AM
Also, I should point out that a lot of these lazy, over-protected kid stereotypes come from middle-class suburban kids. I know plenty of young'uns who were raised in the country or in the inner city much later than the given dates, and still got to run wild as the points describe.

krashkart
05-14-11, 02:02 AM
Some of those things are well remembered beyond the '69 cutoff. Bicentennial baby here. Long live the real deal. :yep:

CCIP
05-14-11, 02:34 AM
Yep, though it's also true a lot of kids these days (and in earlier days) are indeed sheltered from it.

Still, reminds me of sitting around smoking cigars with my best buddy recently... we're both both born in the 80s, I'm from Russia and he grew up in the hills of Tennessee - and we couldn't get over how similar our experiences of growing up doing stupid, dangerous, and completely amazing crap were so similar! ...and yet so strange to the people that surrounded us in our current lives as young working professionals in suburbia.

I wouldn't trade it for anything myself - I would say that one of the greatest things about my upbringing is that I got to both live "the streets" and learn the tough realities of city life, and at the same time I spend plenty of time living with relatives the countryside, knowing what it's like to live simple life with simple people, and take joy from connection with the land and with nature.

I think there's lots to be said for a frugal, tough upbringing. Try as you might, you can't learn that stuff in school.

Lord_magerius
05-14-11, 04:08 AM
I'm only 23 and that describes my childhood perfectly :up:

Oberon
05-14-11, 05:03 AM
Yeah, I think the end date should be moved to 1985-7.

I took my cot apart most of the time anyway. Whoever thought that wing-nuts could not be undone by a toddler never met me... :cool:

joea
05-14-11, 05:07 AM
I ç%&ç# hate these stereotypical "everything was simpler in the good old days" emails. Just look, we have at least two guys here (Lord_magerius and CCIP) who fall outside the demographic and say the message applies to them. The email applies to me-albeit partly. Some of it is contradictory, claiming the last 50 years and the generation of kids raised like that saw an explosion of innovation and change part of which is stuff like computers, playstation and the internet that are decried. My Mom never smoked btw-she did drink wine as far as I know though.

The stuff about

"You had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when You rode Your bikes, You had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As infants & children, You would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags."

Utter tripe-I am sure lots of kids had accidents and died or were severely injured at the time-yet the letter puts them at the same level as harmless or really healthy stuff like playing outside, making mud pies which are fun things kids today miss out on.:nope:

My neice for example has a helmet, my sis was super obsessive about what she ate and drank when she was pregnant, my neice plays volleyball, dances ballet, loves Broadway musicals of the 40s and 50s and actually likes books. Her exposure to the internet and TV is limited and supervised, and the only computer game she plays regularly is "Cut the Rope" on my sister's iPad.

antikristuseke
05-14-11, 05:59 AM
Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said :D

Yes, that.

Torplexed
05-14-11, 07:07 AM
Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said :D

My experience with working with ex-Soviet citizens is that they tend to regard Americans as sissies when they start obsessing about exposure to germs, possible lawsuits, second hand smoke or eating something that is a few days past the expiration date. They sometimes put off going to the doctor because they seem to regard pain as a trifle. A stoic lot, they. ;)

Betonov
05-14-11, 07:51 AM
Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said :D

Nice to meet you comrad, I was born in SFRY :DL

(same up-bringing, better food :03:)

the_tyrant
05-14-11, 10:28 AM
seriously, this sort of thing is boring and ageist :down:

stereotyping young people is just another type of ageism

so what if our parents didn't smoke or drink when they were pregnant?
so what if we didn't eat mud pies?
so what if we didn't drink from garden hoses?
so what if we used more computers and electronics?

it seems like the original author of this article seems to think that everybody born after 69 are somehow worse


These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

the future will be better, and our generation will produce better best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors!

MH
05-14-11, 10:43 AM
seriously, this sort of thing is boring and ageist :down:

stereotyping young people is just another type of ageism


Its typical generation war.
I think today's youth is much smarter than in 60 or 70s.
The old guys have problem keeping up so they complain.

Today children demand more know more but i don't think they are more greedy nasty and so on.

Penguin
05-14-11, 12:02 PM
Forget years, I was born in the USSR. 'nuff said :D

Oh, you are saying you don't fall into this time span, because you were born on Friday the 13th in February, 1918 ;)


stereotyping young people is just another type of ageism


*wiping away a tear from my eye*
*sniff* thank you for calling all people born after '69 young people! :sunny:

Blood_splat
05-14-11, 12:03 PM
It's funny because those parents today born in the 60's and 70's are now helicopter parents.:O:

STEED
05-14-11, 01:28 PM
I made the list, 1968. :DL

CCIP
05-14-11, 02:16 PM
Actually for all the concerns of "ageism", I do take a lot of these concerns to heart and think there's a bit of truth to them - and that's coming from someone who's supposed to be of a totally different generation. As a college teacher, I get to work with exactly the demographic this is written "against", and you know what, there really is a big loss of maturity and life experience among them. I'm not the only one to say it either - many, many other people I work with agree with me. There's been a dramatic downtrend in the average 'quality' of students entering college over the past 20 years or so. You can't generalize completely, of course, and there's lots of brilliant, mature, life-savvy kids out there these days - but there is a lot that points to the fact that today's middle-class youth culture is sheltered, conventional, and over-entertained. And that's even reflected in things like music tastes, interests, political involvement, hobbies... There's a real trend today away from actual counter-culture, and towards just buying the cultural types you're sold. As a favourite musician of mine said, this is probably the first generation since the 1950s where the kids are more conventional than their parents.

Again, plenty of exceptions to that, but by and large I do find it sadly true.

reignofdeath
05-14-11, 04:16 PM
:timeout::timeout:This post makes me feel inadequete (Sp) since I was born in 1991. Lol Although, I did get a good whooping whenever I smarted off or got into trouble so that one pretty much kept me straightened out:)

reignofdeath
05-14-11, 04:30 PM
I ç%&ç# hate these stereotypical "everything was simpler in the good old days" emails. Just look, we have at least two guys here (Lord_magerius and CCIP) who fall outside the demographic and say the message applies to them. The email applies to me-albeit partly. Some of it is contradictory, claiming the last 50 years and the generation of kids raised like that saw an explosion of innovation and change part of which is stuff like computers, playstation and the internet that are decried. My Mom never smoked btw-she did drink wine as far as I know though.

The stuff about

"You had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when You rode Your bikes, You had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As infants & children, You would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags."

Utter tripe-I am sure lots of kids had accidents and died or were severely injured at the time-yet the letter puts them at the same level as harmless or really healthy stuff like playing outside, making mud pies which are fun things kids today miss out on.:nope:

My neice for example has a helmet, my sis was super obsessive about what she ate and drank when she was pregnant, my neice plays volleyball, dances ballet, loves Broadway musicals of the 40s and 50s and actually likes books. Her exposure to the internet and TV is limited and supervised, and the only computer game she plays regularly is "Cut the Rope" on my sister's iPad.

But that seems to be the exception now-a-days, I can even tell you from being in Highschool last year that the creativitey of alot of these kids has gone down. I know this because in the Highschool I attended (A 5A school with 2000+ Kids) there were ALOT who just didn't give two ----s about what they were doing and would rather go out and get drunk every night than do homework and prepare for their future (Personally I couldn't stand this, people never wanted to apply themselves). We had a few who were smart (because they applied themselves) , were outside all the time, good at sports, inventive and etc. But thats all on how the parents raised them I think.


I mean don't get me wrong I don't like being stereotyped either, but you can't help it when they're true, now-a-days kids threaten to call the police when mommy and daddy discipline them, throw tantrums when they wont get their way, have no motivation to do anything, and want nothing but a free ride. It brings one of my friends adopted brothers to mind, his mother adopted him because her son was friends with him (Courts ordered it because his foster parents were nuts) and even though she has handed him a silver platter (Takes him to school every day, drives him 30 miles 1 way at least 3 times a week JUST so he can go see his girlfriend, basically does whatever he wants. He's a slob and won't ever clean up after himself and rarely ever does any chores he's assigned) when she says no, then she becomes a horrible mother, he throws a temper tantrum starts screaming telling her how much of a bitch she is and how she treats him like ----. Then proceeds to storm off to his room slam the door and give her the silent treatment. He's in alternative school because he wouldn't have graduated on time at the rate he was going (Coming home right after school sleeping for 5 hours, waking up and staying up until two then going to school, not doing any homework because he didn't feel like it and sleeping in school). Sounds like he's 5 right? No, he's 17.

Jimbuna
05-14-11, 05:20 PM
I made the list, 1968. :DL

I wish I didn't :DL

longam
05-14-11, 08:13 PM
He forgot watching the moon missions with Walter. A big part of the times back then.

I don't really care for the rest about how things are now, I see some really creative and ingenious young people starting life.

Chad
05-14-11, 09:38 PM
I'm not taking one side or the other,

but the people who experienced these situations are the ones who are imposing these rules and regulations for kids now a days. The kids didn't make the law that they can't ride in the back of a pickup truck, or that they have to wear a seat belt.

Someone, probably born between 1920-1969 made these examples and enforced them.