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Howard313
05-13-11, 04:57 PM
A retired MTA employee has pumped his $140,000 life savings into an ad campaign warning that the world will end on May 21.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1386575/Ex-subway-worker-sinks-140-000-life-savings-campaign-advertising-end-world--dont-worry-Saturday.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Main article in link.

Well my friends looks like we again face another doomsday. According to this guy, we are all going to die in a massive earthquake. Looks like 2012 decided to show up early. Well, you all may not have known me long, but I would just like to say I love each and every one of you.....yes, even you Bernard.

This theory is based on a complex biblical mathematical process. - alot of big words in that sentence.

Now far be it from me to spit in another man's cup (i made that up, cool no?) but I'm 98.7% sure that this theory, like all the ones before it, will be proven false. Doesn't hurt to be prepared though, So I am writing you in my reinforced underground bunker next to President Obama with 3 years supply of food so......so long suckers!

Anthony W.
05-13-11, 05:00 PM
I'll set up the blackjack table if you bring the girls! I throw a party every "doomsday"

MH
05-13-11, 05:04 PM
Why everything must always begin in Jerusalem.:damn:

MothBalls
05-13-11, 05:31 PM
Looks like 2012 decided to show up early. Well, you all may not have known me long, but I would just like to say I love each and every one of you.....

Wish I could say the same, but since the world is coming to an end and just in case there is a heaven, I'll not lie and just say I'll miss some subsimmers more than others.

I just hope that when the big one comes I'll be sitting right on top of the epicenter, or if it's a nuke ending that the first one lands right in my lap. The end doesn't scare me as much as the thought of having to survive in the aftermath.

Note to self: Get laid on the 20th just in case he's right......

Syxx_Killer
05-13-11, 05:40 PM
It better not end on the 21st! Not before the Indy 500! :timeout:

MH
05-13-11, 05:40 PM
I just hope that when the big one comes I'll be sitting right on top of the epicenter, or if it's a nuke ending that the first one lands right in my lap. The end doesn't scare me as much as the thought of having to survive in the aftermath.




http://www.filehurricane.com/viewerthumbnails/1114200985057AM_TheEnd.jpg

vienna
05-13-11, 06:11 PM
If I had a dollar for every "End is Near" doomsday prediction I've lived through, I'd be quite well off. The most memorable one was in the late 50's when I was a child growing up in San Francisco; someone came up with a doomsday prediction and it even got significant press coverage. One of the local papers had a big headline "World Ends Today!" on the morning edition of the "doomsday". The next morning the headline was something along the line of "World Fails To End!" I'm rather sure I'll be posting on May 22 as I am also rather sure I'll see Christmas in 2012.

Platapus
05-13-11, 06:27 PM
Well one of these days, one of these nutters will be right. Only a matter of time. :D

Howard313
05-13-11, 07:39 PM
I'll set up the blackjack table if you bring the girls! I throw a party every "doomsday"

In that case I'll see you next saturday! :up:

kiwi_2005
05-13-11, 07:41 PM
must finish SH5 campaign before the 21st :damn:

Torplexed
05-13-11, 07:54 PM
So, if the world is ending on May 21st that must mean "Duke Nukem Forever" is slated to be released on the 22nd. :yep: It all makes sense now.

CCIP
05-13-11, 07:55 PM
So, if the world is ending on May 21st that must mean "Duke Nukem Forever" is slated to be released on the 22nd. :yep: It all makes sense now.

So I was right to remain in denial about Duke Nukem Forever after all. Yup, all settled, it's never coming out! :O:

Castout
05-13-11, 07:58 PM
Considering most people die by the time they reach 70 or 80 everybody's end is actually near. In case you haven't realized, people don't live that long. :DL

Let me see by the time you reach 20 you haven't even begun to realize what life is about or have any clue of what it is about
By the time you reach 30, you are too preoccupied with career and family that you forgot to live.
By the time you reach 40, you're beginning to realize what life is supposed to be and not entirely lost but still too little time to take time with your life
By the time you reach 50, you begin to think about pension, either apathetic to life or numb, and start to really appreciate what time you have.
By the time you reach 60, life begins to open up its possibility thanks to a lot of free time but then you realize you're too old to do the things you want or wish.
By the time you reach 70, you begin to forget what life is all about and live only to pass the time.
By the time you reach 80, you forget even yourself due to disease.

So people live their life from their 50s to 60s. That's about 20 years. At other times we are either too dumb to appreciate life that we take for granted or too preoccupied to make a living. Frankly, many people are not the master of their own life, that is to do what you WANT to do. So my hat is off to those people who decided from their young life to chase after their dream so they won't waste their life chasing after the society's or someone else's dream.

Torplexed
05-13-11, 08:48 PM
Guess I better get into shape. World ain't gonna last forever.

http://pyxis.homestead.com/rapturepractice.jpg

AngusJS
05-13-11, 09:15 PM
We are doomed if we cannot stop making the same stupid mistakes over and over again. The inability or the refusal to learn from the failure of every single prophecy of doomsday throughout history makes the story go beyond laughter-inducing, to downright depressing.

Stealhead
05-13-11, 09:22 PM
Like castout said everyone has a doomsday/judgment day at some point and in this vast grand scheme universe sooner or later the entire thing will be gone at least as how we know it so why bother worrying about things that you cant control and are 100% going to happen anyway?

Might as well enjoy life while you have it you never know when you are going to die.

Though I dont agree with castouts you only live form 50 to 60 to me you live your entire life span and learn as you go.

krashkart
05-13-11, 09:56 PM
Why everything must always begin in Jerusalem.:damn:

I know, it gets old. It's because Jerusalem is so "biblical". Can't have a doomsday prophecy without a holy 'something' being involved. Why can't it start in the great-aunt's wardrobe or some place like that? :)

FIREWALL
05-13-11, 11:16 PM
I only hope his wife is notified first before, he spends "THEIR" life saveings. :yep:

Put that nut in a resthome. :p2:

Castout
05-13-11, 11:17 PM
Guess I better get into shape. World ain't gonna last forever.

http://pyxis.homestead.com/rapturepractice.jpg

Haha funny picture. Rapture is not biblical. Talk to any biblical scholar(I mean scholar, doesn't have to be a believer). But it seems too many people believe in Rapture.

But that's another topic. As for getting into shape yeah do it. One life, one body one mind in just one lifetime! Better make full use of what we have been given imo. Get in shape, whether to feel good or to charm the ladies.

Onkel Neal
05-13-11, 11:38 PM
So, if the world is ending on May 21st that must mean "Duke Nukem Forever" is slated to be released on the 22nd. :yep: It all makes sense now.


:har:

Howard313
05-14-11, 01:18 AM
I only hope his wife is notified first before, he spends "THEIR" life savings. :yep:

Put that nut in a resthome. :p2:

Yeah, I don't care how sure I was, I wouldn't throw away my life savings away to advertise this.

I mean....what if your wrong? But then again I'm the type of guy who wouldn't tell people about this even if I knew for a fact when and why we were going to die.

Castout
05-14-11, 03:48 AM
Though I dont agree with castouts you only live form 50 to 60 to me you live your entire life span and learn as you go.


It was a joke to those people who can't appreciate life and put some things overrated as their yardstick. Those things usually involve money or power.

We indeed have to start living our life to the fullest, to appreciate this life however short that we have. Many people need to take control over their life instead becoming victim out of conditions that they wish they never in in the first place. If you don't like certain things don't do that certain things. If you don't like the job just quit and find another. If your calling doesn't lay in amassing great wealth but to give service to fellow men then do it, quit that job and just do it. If you want to travel the world just do it when you can and because you actually make the plan and the chance. If you want to make a difference then do it despite the consequence. What is a success or a failure anyway if in the end we will all successfully die. After all we live only a life time and to die the rest of the time so why not make it worth the while. Death laughs at us ALL. With it the greatest achievement is as meaningless as the most useless endeavor. Even if we were worshiped by the multitude of the living what would it do to us when we are already in death. Nothing I tell you.

I saw a dying small boy on tv who was sick out of incurable disease. When asked what was it about life that he liked the most, he answered just simply living. I realized the boy has learned much more than the average adults who can often feel ungrateful most of the time. He has since passed away. A brave and wise kid.

antikristuseke
05-14-11, 06:28 AM
So far their track record for being right isn't exactly stellar.
http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

STEED
05-14-11, 06:44 AM
I will gladly fart in his face on 22nd May, bloody crank.

FIREWALL
05-14-11, 11:48 AM
If it does happen.... Will the last person put the toilet seat down and,turn off the lights. :-?

Torplexed
05-14-11, 12:09 PM
If I had a dollar for every "End is Near" doomsday prediction I've lived through, I'd be quite well off. The most memorable one was in the late 50's when I was a child growing up in San Francisco; someone came up with a doomsday prediction and it even got significant press coverage. One of the local papers had a big headline "World Ends Today!" on the morning edition of the "doomsday". The next morning the headline was something along the line of "World Fails To End!"

If the world does end I can see the modern headlines already each with the appropriate political slant.

Huffington Post
World destroyed--Women and Minorities hurt worst

National Review
World Ends--another Obama/FEMA plot?

Wall Street Journal
Planet Destroyed--all stocks down 6 7/8ths

Platapus
05-14-11, 12:44 PM
Well according to the article, the world is not ending on 21 May 11

21 May is when people in JC's posse are carried into heaven. The rest of us will experience 153 days of death and horror until the world ends on 21 Oct.

So we have a little time.

Torplexed
05-14-11, 12:58 PM
The rest of us will experience 153 days of death and horror until the world ends on 21 Oct.


So, basically 153 days just any other day on Planet Earth.

Platapus
05-14-11, 01:03 PM
So, basically 153 days just any another day on Planet Earth.

Yeah, pretty much. :D

But look on the bright side. With all of JC's boys and girls gone, it will be easier to find a parking spot! :yeah:

MH
05-14-11, 01:05 PM
Yeah, pretty much. :D

But look on the bright side. With all of JC's boys and girls gone, it will be easier to find a parking spot! :yeah:

Good peaple go to heaven bad peaple having fun?

Platapus
05-14-11, 01:08 PM
Good peaple go to heaven bad peaple having fun?

Specifically people who believe in Jesus. Whether that qualifies exclusively as "good people" can be debated. :O:

MothBalls
05-14-11, 04:44 PM
So, basically 153 days just any other day on Planet Earth.This will piss me off. I was holding off buying a new PC until SH6 was released. 153 days won't let us get the first patch installed or get GWx-6 finished in time.

Maybe if we all pitch in and refund the guys life savings he'll get us an extension?

Onkel Neal
05-14-11, 05:04 PM
This will piss me off. I was holding off buying a new PC until SH6 was released. 153 days won't let us get the first patch installed or get GWx-6 finished in time.

Maybe if we all pitch in and refund the guys life savings he'll get us an extension?

Dude, the real rapture actually will come before SH6! :o

Torplexed
05-14-11, 05:07 PM
Dude, the real rapture actually will come before SH6! :o

:rotfl2: :rotfl2:

I was just about to say that SH6 better include upward looking sonar and ice sounding gear as hell will have frozen over at that point.

vienna
05-15-11, 04:26 PM
As I said before, I don't believe in these wild Doomsday predictions, but I'm gonna be real ticked off if the prediction for December 21, 2012 comes true: I'll only have been eligible for Social Security for 5 days...

Schöneboom
05-15-11, 06:06 PM
How ironic: I'm working on my first novel, which is set in a post-apocalyptic future, after 90% of humanity is wiped out. Maybe I better write faster! :hmmm:

MH
05-15-11, 06:23 PM
How ironic: I'm working on my first novel, which is set in a post-apocalyptic future, after 90% of humanity is wiped out. Maybe I better write faster! :hmmm:

Apocalyptic future?
Optimist :D

Raptor1
05-15-11, 06:24 PM
As I said before, I don't believe in these wild Doomsday predictions, but I'm gonna be real ticked off if the prediction for December 21, 2012 comes true: I'll only have been eligible for Social Security for 5 days...

Eh, I don't think you get insurance from the apocalypse with that... :hmmm:

yubba
05-15-11, 06:27 PM
Will there be pie, Yubba like pie.

MH
05-15-11, 06:46 PM
Will there be pie, Yubba like pie.

You may like this :D

http://politicalintegritynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/obama_zombies_motivator.jpg

yubba
05-15-11, 06:49 PM
Mmmmmmmm Obama pie, but Yubba no like narly liberal after taste, have to wash mouth out with litter box.

Armistead
05-15-11, 11:17 PM
Well, be nice to know the future, no doubt the world will see mass changes given enough time, but I feel humans will cause the end in the next 50 years to the world as we know it.

Howard313
05-16-11, 12:42 AM
Mmmmmmmm Obama pie, but Yubba no like narly liberal after taste, have to wash mouth out with litter box.

Will there be pie, Yubba like pie.

Do you always refer to yourself in the third person perspective? :hmmm:

yubba
05-16-11, 04:25 PM
Do you always refer to yourself in the third person perspective? :hmmm: Not always, just trying alittle caveman spin on things , you always ask silly questions, Yubba no like balls bein, busted and twisted.:O:

elephantium
05-16-11, 09:35 PM
Specifically people who believe in Jesus. Whether that qualifies exclusively as "good people" can be debated. :O:

I would say no.

Good people have no need of Jesus. He came to save the sinners, not the saints.

gimpy117
05-16-11, 11:22 PM
You may like this :D

http://politicalintegritynow.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/obama_zombies_motivator.jpg

And the right will use their mindlessness to accomplish their biggest dream ever, employing them for no money at all, because employee wages are such a buzz kill to their stock options.

nikimcbee
05-17-11, 12:04 AM
Dude, the real rapture actually will come before SH6! :o

Don't you mean DC2?

...and by rapture, you mean fav-ray to da raidahs?:haha:

Howard313
05-18-11, 04:32 AM
Well guys tomorrow is the 19th, meaning starting tomorrow we have 3 days left before we all die or experience hell on earth or something like that.

Yup....3 days until the world ends....you know what that means!?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Er7yHSskHFE/TP3Dpbj67KI/AAAAAAAABfM/mAllpLTkGjo/s1600/N64-Zelda-Majoras-Mask.jpg

That's right folks, no better excuse to hook up this old baby. Wish me luck, whole world is counting on it. :yeah:

Although to be perfectly honest if we do die the 21st, i doubt it will be due to the moon crashing on us. :hmmm:

Feuer Frei!
05-18-11, 05:00 AM
That'll be a Saturday.
Better ring up sick for that day then.
I'll be buggered if i'm gonna go down in a sea of flames whilst i'm at that craphole called work!

Torplexed
05-18-11, 05:31 AM
Robert Fitzpatrick, a 60-year-old Staten Island resident, said he spent at least that sum on 1,000 subway-car placards and ads on bus kiosks and subway cars.

They say, "Global Earthquake: The Greatest Ever! Judgment Day May 21, 2011."
In a self-published book, "The Doomsday Code," Fitzpatrick said the Bible offers "proof that cannot be dismissed."

"Judgment Day will surprise people. We will not be ready for it," Fitzpatrick said in an interview with the newspaper. "A giant earthquake will render the earth uninhabitable."

If you want to set an alarm clock, the quake will happen just before 6:00pm local time, he said.Apparently, that's 6:00 pm on the US east coast, so set your doomsday clocks accordingly. I guess that means Australia & NZ will actually have until Sunday to party like it's 1999.

Armistead
05-18-11, 10:22 AM
Only 3 days left...

Heck, I hope I see this great event in my life time. Think, to be able to say, "I was there when the world came to a end."

Think I'll make a time capsule about myself and bury it...:woot:

Oberon
05-18-11, 11:40 AM
Apparently, that's 6:00 pm on the US east coast, so set your doomsday clocks accordingly. I guess that means Australia & NZ will actually have until Sunday to party like it's 1999.


18:00 US East Coast is 23:00 GMT, so it'll be midnight in the UK. :hmmm:

Be an interesting article on the midnight news I guess. :yep:

AVGWarhawk
05-18-11, 11:59 AM
This event will make history! :DL

MH
05-18-11, 12:05 PM
As soon as something strange will start happening here ill let you know..:ping:

Jaguar
05-18-11, 02:38 PM
I'll set up the blackjack table if you bring the girls! I throw a party every "doomsday"

So you´re a professional gambler and a big drunkard:O:

FIREWALL
05-18-11, 03:51 PM
The world "WOULD" have to end on a Saturday. :-?

Couldn't be on a Monday when, everyone feels like crap and, could give a ship. :yep:

Wolfehunter
05-19-11, 09:56 AM
:haha::har: I remember this crap back in 1999 when the millennium was the end ahhaaaaa... Simple minded folks hahaaaa... I'll see you guys on the 22nd still laughing...

August
05-19-11, 11:27 AM
Just in case in the off chance that it is true I just want to tell everyone it's been real! :salute:

Gato76
05-19-11, 03:31 PM
Only two more days,crap i got to hurry up and finish the witcher 2

Betonov
05-19-11, 03:51 PM
Don't panic, 21st will only be the rapture, I doubt any subsimer will be whisked away to heaven

MH
05-19-11, 04:52 PM
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJQhae-bgU9kJIvWVYOOURAfnbB4YeV3t7IDtj1dA_QC6dBuARnw

darius359au
05-19-11, 06:32 PM
Bugger that ,my AFL team plays on sunday and Im going to be annoyed if the apocalypse happens - actually there will be a very large number of very annoyed Aussies rocking up to the pearly gates if god screws with the season by ending the world ,and he really doesn't want a horde of narked off Aussies rampaging through heaven :D

vienna
05-19-11, 06:34 PM
...and he really doesn't want a horde of narked off Aussies rampaging through heaven


God Forbid!!

Falkirion
05-19-11, 07:22 PM
Hear hear Darius. Couldn't agree more. I'm leading my companies footy tipping comp and do not want my lead that I've spent the past 8 rounds building lost!

Platapus
05-19-11, 07:37 PM
What saddens me is that there are people who have quit their jobs because of this. WTF! what about their families? If the Rapture is, indeed, coming on Saturday, why bother to quit your job? If the Rapture comes, it won't matter, and if the Rapture does not come, it does matter.

And that jerk who took his life savings to buy the billboards. I wonder what his wife feels about this?

If these nutters want to proclaim the end of the world (and this time they are sincere), so be it, but don't let your beliefs screw over your family.

It must suck to be a kid with one of the nutters as a parent. What do you tell your wife/husband/kids on Sunday?

Oops, forgot to carry the 2. Rapture comes in about 10 years. :oops:

I don't care about the nutters, I care about the innocent members of their families that don't buy into this fantasy.

Quitting your job and blowing your lifesavings. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

antikristuseke
05-19-11, 09:02 PM
Just look up the great dissapointment, but dont have any liquids in your mouth when reading.

darius359au
05-19-11, 09:31 PM
Just look up the great dissapointment, but dont have any liquids in your mouth when reading.
Sems to read "And Thou shalt make sh*te up if at first thy predictions go belly up":D:rotfl2::rotfl2:

Torplexed
05-19-11, 09:53 PM
Top Ten Ways To Make The Apocalypse More Fun

The Late Show with David Letterman


10. Have it hosted by Neil Patrick Harris

9. Wear crazy hats like at the Royal Wedding

8. All-you-can-eat baby back ribs with Chili’s Aporkalypse special

7. Instead of four horsemen, three horsemen and a monkey riding a dog

6. Telecast of the Real Housewives being vaporized

5. Live tweet it

4. Hilarious slide whistle sound effect when the righteous ascend to heaven

3. Raffle drawing for a Broyhill dinette set

2. People’s panicked pleas for mercy are critiqued by Piers Morgan, Sharon Osbourne, and Howie Mandel

1. More fun? What’s more fun than the apocalypse?

Torplexed
05-19-11, 09:55 PM
Yeah. I remember when Letterman used to be funny too. :-?

FIREWALL
05-19-11, 10:07 PM
Top Ten Ways To Make The Apocalypse More Fun

The Late Show with David Letterman


10. Have it hosted by Neil Patrick Harris

9. Wear crazy hats like at the Royal Wedding

8. All-you-can-eat baby back ribs with Chili---8217;s Aporkalypse special

7. Instead of four horsemen, three horsemen and a monkey riding a dog

6. Telecast of the Real Housewives being vaporized

5. Live tweet it

4. Hilarious slide whistle sound effect when the righteous ascend to heaven

3. Raffle drawing for a Broyhill dinette set

2. People---8217;s panicked pleas for mercy are critiqued by Piers Morgan, Sharon Osbourne, and Howie Mandel

1. More fun? What---8217;s more fun than the apocalypse?

3 1\2. Hilarious slide whistle sound effect when the righteous desend the other way. :p2:

darius359au
05-19-11, 10:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eyFiClAzq8

kiwi_2005
05-20-11, 05:09 AM
When everybody on earth was dead and waiting to enter Paradise ,
God appeared and said, "I want the men to make two lines. One
line for the men who were true heads of their household, and the
other line for the men who were dominated by their women.

I want all the women to report to St. Peter."

Soon, the women were gone and there were two lines of men. The
line of the men who were dominated by their wives was 100 miles
long, and in the line of men who truly were heads of their household,
there was only one man.

God said, "You men should be ashamed of yourselves, I created you
to be the head of your household! You have been disobedient and
have not fulfilled your purpose! Of all of you, only one obeyed.
Learn from him."

God turned to the one man: "How did you manage to be the only One in this line?
The man replied, "My wife told me to stand here."

Wolfehunter
05-20-11, 06:31 AM
What saddens me is that there are people who have quit their jobs because of this. WTF! what about their families? If the Rapture is, indeed, coming on Saturday, why bother to quit your job? If the Rapture comes, it won't matter, and if the Rapture does not come, it does matter.

And that jerk who took his life savings to buy the billboards. I wonder what his wife feels about this?

If these nutters want to proclaim the end of the world (and this time they are sincere), so be it, but don't let your beliefs screw over your family.

It must suck to be a kid with one of the nutters as a parent. What do you tell your wife/husband/kids on Sunday?

Oops, forgot to carry the 2. Rapture comes in about 10 years. :oops:

I don't care about the nutters, I care about the innocent members of their families that don't buy into this fantasy.

Quitting your job and blowing your lifesavings. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.That's when the wife makes her husband sleep with the dogs for a while and kicks his ass.. :O:

frau kaleun
05-20-11, 09:42 AM
http://chzragecomics.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/rage-comics-atone-thy-sins1.jpg

TarJak
05-20-11, 09:51 AM
Well it's 12:46AM Saturday 21st May 2011. I'm still here...:woot:

Jaguar
05-20-11, 10:00 AM
Well it's 12:46AM Saturday 21st May 2011. I'm still here...:woot:

Here it´s still 11:46AM Friday, 20st May, keep posting so we can know you still there :D.

TarJak
05-20-11, 10:09 AM
01:09AM Still here...:woot:

Oberon
05-20-11, 10:12 AM
Wait until 10am Sunday morning. :03:

TarJak
05-20-11, 10:14 AM
I can't stay up that long. Getting tired now might go to bed and wait for the end.:yawn:

Oberon
05-20-11, 10:15 AM
I can't stay up that long. Getting tired now might go to bed and wait for the end.:yawn:

Sorry, 9am Sunday morning. Which is 8pm on the US East Coast.

I hate timezones, now I know how Task Force feels... :damn:

August
05-20-11, 10:17 AM
You're still alive because Gods international date line runs through New Jersey. :yep:

frau kaleun
05-20-11, 10:19 AM
You're still alive because Gods international date line runs through New Jersey. :yep:

Which exit?

Jaguar
05-20-11, 10:19 AM
I can't stay up that long. Getting tired now might go to bed and wait for the end.:yawn:
It suffices. Thx mate. Now let´s wait to december 2012......

TarJak
05-20-11, 10:24 AM
Sorry, 9am Sunday morning. Which is 8pm on the US East Coast.

I hate timezones, now I know how Task Force feels... :damn:Soft and squidgy????:hmmm:

You're still alive because Gods international date line runs through New Jersey. :yep:LOL

Which exit?:har:

It suffices. Thx mate. Now let´s wait to december 2012......I definately can't saty awake until then. Nighty night.:yawn:

Jaguar
05-20-11, 10:41 AM
I definately can't saty awake until then. Nighty night.:yawn:

:haha::har:

MothBalls
05-20-11, 11:04 AM
Sorry everyone, I'm going to have to postpone the end of the world for a bit. I promised the kids a trip to Disney World before the next apocalypse, and I can't find my car keys. My apologies, we'll just have to shoot for another date.

On the bright side, the Mayans won't be as pissed because they put all of those extra days on the calendar. (I guess they didn't get the memo with the update) Maybe we'll get to use those days up after all, and SH6 will be released before the end of time.

Stealhead
05-20-11, 11:24 AM
I want see the look on the guy who spent his life savings on the billboards say on Monday he is going to fell really stupid then he wont be able to warn people as to the next end of time date.

Or like my grandfather who was a pastor always liked to say when the topic came up,"any man who says that he knows the time and the hour is a fool"

And the the people that quit their jobs if I where the boss I would not re-hire them what a crock besides why cant you work today?

Blood_splat
05-20-11, 11:43 AM
http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/052011/the_end_is_nigh.jpg

FIREWALL
05-20-11, 12:31 PM
Again... Will the last one " Turn off the lights " :03:

vienna
05-20-11, 12:58 PM
What about if the "Rapture" arrives and the predictors are left behind?...

Betonov
05-20-11, 12:59 PM
What about if the "Rapture" arrives and the predictors are left behind?...

Someone has to advertise Armagedon :03:

vienna
05-20-11, 01:46 PM
Nah, I've already seen that movie...

Howard313
05-20-11, 02:13 PM
I'm a little late to the party on this one. But here is what CNN has to say about this whole matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yEcP-nmBYk

Just in case you missed it.

ReFaN
05-20-11, 02:21 PM
i bid you all farewell, because tommorow i will ascend to the heavens!

vienna
05-20-11, 02:45 PM
So, all the righteous, pure, and abstaining people will be swept up to heaven and the rest will be left behind? Sounds like a party for the rest of us. Personally, I'm going to see if I can be somewhere near Keith Richards; it appears wherever he is will be the last place to go at the apocalypse...

frau kaleun
05-20-11, 03:27 PM
So, all the righteous, pure, and abstaining people will be swept up to heaven and the rest will be left behind? Sounds like a party for the rest of us. Personally, I'm going to see if I can be somewhere near Keith Richards; it appears wherever he is will be the last place to go at the apocalypse...

Nah, just do like Mark Twain said and move to Cincinnati. Everything here happens ten years later. :O:

Oberon
05-20-11, 03:30 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13468131

joegrundman
05-20-11, 03:38 PM
TarJak has gone awfully quiet:hmmm:

Stealhead
05-20-11, 03:43 PM
:har: it says in that article that some guy in England has been getting tons of clients who want his company to take of their pets after rapture.

Are people really this gullible? It seems so.The convenient thing is they will be able to explain away if no one gets raptured that this is proof how vile and wicked humans are then they will sell things to make you eligible for rapture round 2 and then people will buy into it.:rotfl2:

joe he went to bed if you read his last post.

Bakkels
05-20-11, 03:47 PM
So, all the righteous, pure, and abstaining people will be swept up to heaven and the rest will be left behind? Sounds like a party for the rest of us. Personally, I'm going to see if I can be somewhere near Keith Richards; it appears wherever he is will be the last place to go at the apocalypse...

I heard he is ranked the #1 person likely to die last during Armageddon. :haha:
He lives in Weston, Connecticut most of the times. So go there!
See what I did? I saved a person! Now that surely must get me on board for heaven tomorrow! :D

joegrundman
05-20-11, 03:54 PM
joe he went to bed if you read his last post.

i do not believe it! He's been raptured - i think it looks like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK9D6DfRtgk

TarJak
05-20-11, 04:47 PM
TarJak has gone awfully quiet:hmmm:

:yawn: Morning all. Did I miss anything?

i do not believe it! He's been raptured - i think it looks like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK9D6DfRtgk
:haha: Well if this is what rapture feels like I'd had to have the hangover after it. hmmm... must clear up these beer bottles.... getting hard... to reach keyboard...

vienna
05-20-11, 05:14 PM
I heard he is ranked the #1 person likely to die last during Armageddon. :haha:


There was a standup comedian who made the comment that cockroaches and Keith Richards were the only lifeforms capable of surving an atomic holocaust. He would do an impression of Keith after the explosions:

[Staggers bleary-eyed to the front of the stage]

"What happened, man? I saw a bright flash of light...are we on?...Where's me guitar, man?..."

He lives in Weston, Connecticut most of the times. So go there!
See what I did? I saved a person! Now that surely must get me on board for heaven tomorrow! :D

Depends on who you save...

If you saved me, you may have much to answer for; a friend once gave me card and said it applied to me: "Boy, am I in trouble when I die; Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take it over." My friends are cruel, but generally honest in their opinions...



Nah, just do like Mark Twain said and move to Cincinnati. Everything here happens ten years later. :O:


"On the whole, I'd rather be in Philadelphia"
(Quote on the tombstone of W.C. Fields, who hated Philadelphia)


Incidentally, there is story Douglas Fairbanks, Sr. told about finding W.C. Fields intently studying a copy of the Bible with a magnifying glass:

Fairbanks: Bill, What are you doing?

Fields [not looking up]: What does it look like? I'm studying the Bible.

Fairbanks: But, I thought you weren't religious?

Fields [still not looking up]: I'm not.

Fairbanks: Then, why are you studying the Bible?

Fields: I'm looking for loopholes.

Bakkels
05-20-11, 05:20 PM
Depends on who you save...

If you saved me, you may have much to answer for; a friend once gave me card and said it applied to me: "Boy, am I in trouble when I die; Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take it over." My friends are cruel, but generally honest in their opinions...




Well, you do have friends, so you can't be that bad. Or do these friends happen to be the four horsemen :haha:

By the way it's 0:18 here, so did this guy mention a time when all of this apocalypse thing would take pl

vienna
05-20-11, 05:26 PM
According to the news reports, the end is suppsed to begin (begin the beguine?...) at 6:00 p.m., U.S. East Coast time; your mileage may vary.


Well, you do have friends, so you can't be that bad. Or do these friends happen to be the four horsemen :haha:


Well, I'm not certain if they are the four horsemen, but I am a little concerned about my friend on the pale horse and the one carrying the scythe and hourglass...

Bakkels
05-20-11, 06:02 PM
And nobody noticed the dramatic cut-off of my message!:nope: You guys just don't care do you! :haha:

Anyway, 6pm East Coast is exactly midnight here tomorrow. My schedule says I'm probably drunk by then. Just the state I like to be in during one of them Apocalypses! Woohoo! :rotfl2:

TarJak
05-20-11, 06:54 PM
Bugger. That's 8am Sunday. I'll have another hangover then.

Here is a handy reckoner for those who are time zone challenged:

New York (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179) (U.S.A. - New York)Saturday, 21 May 2011 at 6:00:00 PM EDT (http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/edt.html)UTC-4 hours
Sydney (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=240) (Australia - New South Wales)Sunday, 22 May 2011 at 8:00:00 AM EST (http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/au/est.html)UTC+10 hours
London (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=136) (U.K. - England)Saturday, 21 May 2011 at 11:00:00 PM BST (http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/bst.html)UTC+1 hour
Moscow (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=166) (Russia)Sunday, 22 May 2011 at 2:00:00 AM MSD (http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/eu/msd.html)UTC+4 hours

darius359au
05-20-11, 07:27 PM
bugger ,I thought I'd wake up to a world without all the loony fringe christian types and It would be nice and quiet!,looks like their still here ,so much for some quiet time:cry:
I'll love to see how this is going to be explained away with the true belivers of the loony behind this - saw a news interview with him and his followers ,reporter asked one of the true believers what they'll do on sunday when nothing happens and the guy said it was going to happen and it was a "Sinful" thought to doubt it:o,how brain washed are this guys followers? ,Im half expecting a Jonestown come sunday/monday :nope:

TarJak
05-20-11, 07:57 PM
,Im half expecting a Jonestown come sunday/monday :nope:That's natural selection at work.:03:

Torplexed
05-20-11, 08:02 PM
Yeah. You could go with Rapture-Hatch, or do it yourself in a few minutes with a chainsaw.

http://pyxis.homestead.com/rapture-hatch-21481-1305493220-70.jpg

Or you could be real weird and could stand outside...

http://pyxis.homestead.com/rapture-hatch-21481-1305493220-70
http://pyxis.homestead.com/rapture-hatch-21481-1305493220-70

Sledgehammer427
05-20-11, 09:23 PM
didn't the good book say the end will never be predicted?

thats all I have to say about that.

Bakkels
05-20-11, 09:48 PM
didn't the good book say the end will never be predicted?

thats all I have to say about that.

The good book also said:

"You shall not wear cloth of wool and linen mixed together."
(Deuteremony 22:11)

It makes a lot more sense, and at least it's of some practical use.
But that's all I have to say about that.

darius359au
05-20-11, 10:41 PM
The good book also said:

"You shall not wear cloth of wool and linen mixed together."
(Deuteremony 22:11)

It makes a lot more sense, and at least it's of some practical use.
But that's all I have to say about that.

well i can understand not mixing wool and linen - think about it ,we're talking the middle east here ,hot summers etc ,so linen would be nicely cool and breathable where as wool is just going to make you all sweaty and itchy:yeah:

Philipp_Thomsen
05-20-11, 10:47 PM
meh, this saturday is no good for me. I have a pool tournament.

Plus the weather is supposed to be crappy.

darius359au
05-20-11, 10:53 PM
Plus the weather is supposed to be crappy.

Cloudy with a chance of ascension? :D:rotfl2::rotfl2:

Onkel Neal
05-20-11, 11:01 PM
Haha, all you doubters! Just so you know, I'm posting from Heaven now!! Really, really fast connection. Woot!:woot:

Sailor Steve
05-20-11, 11:09 PM
Haha, all you doubters! Just so you know, I'm posting from Heaven now!! Really, really fast connection. Woot!:woot:
And there goes any chance you might have had. God doesn't like fibbers, you naughty boy. :O:

TarJak
05-20-11, 11:59 PM
Haha, all you doubters! Just so you know, I'm posting from Heaven now!! Really, really fast connection. Woot!:woot: Well it would be with the server under your desk!:O:

And there goes any chance you might have had. God doesn't like fibbers, you naughty boy. :O:
:har:

krashkart
05-21-11, 12:59 AM
12:59 AM and all's well!









I better stop typing so big. Might wake the neighbors. :timeout:

Howard313
05-21-11, 01:18 AM
tick tock tick tock. Time's ticking away.
I wonder if the dead will come out to play.
- Howard313

2:15am here, no zombies yet :shifty:

Feuer Frei!
05-21-11, 01:20 AM
That's weird, nothing happened!?
#shrugs shoulders*
/sarcasm off

Sledgehammer427
05-21-11, 01:31 AM
aw crap. I just finished my "last" cup of Dunkin Donuts coffee....nothing yet you say?


BACK OUT FOR ANOTHER!

problem is, I honestly wouldn't know if the Rapture happens or not. This side of New Haven isn't exactly full of saints...
TO GRANDPAS HOUSE!
after I get my coffee

darius359au
05-21-11, 02:48 AM
1715 21may11 and still here....I think jesus is a no show!

Tribesman
05-21-11, 03:04 AM
Keep the rapturemap updated to see how many are chosen
http://www.rapturefail.org/rapturefail-map/

On anoher angle, these people who are putting all the money into the end of times adds....would that expense be tax deductable?

Betonov
05-21-11, 03:24 AM
IT'S TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

A couple of strawberries got raptured an hour ago. They were still there, nice and ripe in the morning when I watered them, but now they are nowhere to be found :o

They might have converted when a group of christian scouts passed by

MH
05-21-11, 03:32 AM
12 hours to go till midnight in Jerusalem.:D
Dont relax yet:D

ReFaN
05-21-11, 04:25 AM
Seems like its back to school on monday, Bugger.

Penguin
05-21-11, 06:28 AM
12 hours to go till midnight in Jerusalem.:D
Dont relax yet:D

You're one hour ahead, so please tell us here when it all goes down - so I have 60 minutes left to kill my last bottle of whisky, to regret my sins and become a good person :O:

Also watch out for stars over Bethlehem and newborns who are called Brian. :D

darius359au
05-21-11, 07:25 AM
Also watch out for stars over Bethlehem and newborns who are called Brian. :D

"There's no messiah here..there's a mess but no messiah" :D

Oberon
05-21-11, 08:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YrMnm.jpg

It's ok, Macho Man is sorting it out.

Armistead
05-21-11, 08:32 AM
I can't wait to hear the next round of excuses. Anyone know what this group plans were for today, did they meet in some field somewhere to wait together?

Wolfehunter
05-21-11, 08:39 AM
I'm still here hahaahaaa..:woot:

Oberon
05-21-11, 08:55 AM
I can't wait to hear the next round of excuses. Anyone know what this group plans were for today, did they meet in some field somewhere to wait together?

Well apparently they're going to sit around and watch it all on TV.

Bakkels
05-21-11, 09:03 AM
Well they said it was going to happen 6 pm East Coast time today, so we're not safe yet!

My to do list for today:
-Help elderly lady cross the street
-Rescue kittens from burning home
-Stop all the middle-east conflicts
-Stop global warming
-Come up with a cure for cancer

:rock: :haha:

*edit* Woops, seems like I got it wrong, just looked at rapturefail.org, and I only have less than two hours left.. Well screw the to-do list, I'll just hang out here on the Subsim forum :D

Rhodes
05-21-11, 09:29 AM
Their will be no rapture today, I am still waiting for Jimbuna pays a beer for my birthday.

Feuer Frei!
05-21-11, 09:44 AM
On anoher angle, these people who are putting all the money into the end of times adds....would that expense be tax deductable?
Ofc, it's work-related. :O:

Torplexed
05-21-11, 09:49 AM
Well, the only prediction I'm believing now is the one Richard Dawkins made.

"They will inevitably explain, on May 22nd, that there must have been some error in the calculation, the rapture is postponed to some indefinite date and please send more money to pay for updated billboards."

Platapus
05-21-11, 09:50 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/19/news/economy/may-21-end-of-the-world-finances-harold-camping/index.htm?hpt=C2

Interesting article on his organization, how much money it takes in and that many of the employees are planning on coming to work on Monday. :yep:

frau kaleun
05-21-11, 10:04 AM
Their will be no rapture today, I am still waiting for Jimbuna pays a beer for my birthday.

I think you're confusing the rapture with Hell freezing over. :O:

kranz
05-21-11, 10:09 AM
I'm bloody disappointed...nothing happened...:-?

STEED
05-21-11, 10:11 AM
Time for him to kiss my ass and everyone else as well.

Sailor Steve
05-21-11, 11:20 AM
I'll take a pass, thanks. You can kiss your own. Please link a video that we can ignore. :O:

frau kaleun
05-21-11, 11:56 AM
I'll take a pass, thanks. You can kiss your own. Please link a video that we can ignore. :O:

I thought everyone here already had Steed's amateur porn site bookmarked. :hmmm:



So... uh... it's just me, then? :oops:

Rhodes
05-21-11, 12:08 PM
I think you're confusing the rapture with Hell freezing over. :O:

:har:

Armistead
05-21-11, 12:22 PM
My guess he is just another scam artist that controls people for money and the suckers that keep giving him money deserve to lose it.

Rhodes
05-21-11, 01:23 PM
My guess he is just another scam artist that controls people for money and the suckers that keep giving him money deserve to lose it.

And made almost all the world talk about him and his profecies and ideas,etc.

I was too post subsim forum insted of world, but we do talk about everything and this forum can be the world.
I' going to rapture some bath and then dinner!

MH
05-21-11, 01:29 PM
My guess he is just another scam artist that controls people for money and the suckers that keep giving him money deserve to lose it.

He is trying maybe some day he will win the jackpot:D

Howard313
05-21-11, 01:42 PM
What? No zombie apocalypse?!? ugh! I concreted my town's graveyard for nothing!

Well, that was money well spent. :shifty:

KptnLt Eric Karle
05-21-11, 02:38 PM
I can report that no floating christians have been reported anywhere in Ireland and it's no well past Rapturetime although I did see a group of people standing at a bus stop about an hour ago and they have now disappeared :o:o

frau kaleun
05-21-11, 02:47 PM
I can report that no floating christians have been reported anywhere in Ireland and it's no well past Rapturetime although I did see a group of people standing at a bus stop about an hour ago and they have now disappeared :o:o

If I have to ride the city bus to Heaven I think I'll just stay here. :O:

Betonov
05-21-11, 02:55 PM
I believe this is apropriate :DL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcL---4xQYA

mapuc
05-21-11, 03:26 PM
First:
have mercy on this little, miserable man, who didn't get enough attention, when he was a little boy. Now he has got all kind of attention.

Second:
I have, as a hobbies, being studying those type of people that makes those types of annoncement. Sortly you could say that they have, had a bad life, but it's more to it than that.

Third:
It p*ss me of, when all of those profets, say that the world is coming to an end. The world(earth) will remain for billions of years. But our world-the infrastructor a.s.o- could go under tomorrow or somewhere in the future no one knows.

Fourth:
no one knows when a huge meteor or something else, is coming our way, from somewhere in the solarsystem and if it means the end of the human race, so be it. But the earth will stil be floating around in the univers at the same spot, 'round the sun.

Fifth:
2012!?
Talking about propotions
Here, have a little white feather turned into 100000 hence.

So the Mayan calendar is ending on 21th of december 2012 it's no more to it than the next generation of the mayan shall start building a new calendar.
Niburu!? That's really a feather that turned into a lots of chickens. First it was a little asteroid. Now it have become a huge planetoid.

Regards
Markus

STEED
05-21-11, 03:30 PM
I'll take a pass, thanks. You can kiss your own. Please link a video that we can ignore. :O:

That plonker is going to kiss all our backsides so drop them. :rotfl2:

I thought everyone here already had Steed's amateur porn site bookmarked. :hmmm:



So... uh... it's just me, then? :oops:

Pure smut at its best, jim is a star of most films, lucky git. :har:

Oberon
05-21-11, 03:33 PM
I believe this is apropriate :DL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcL---4xQYA

Fantastic song. :yep:

longam
05-21-11, 03:41 PM
Hope the kids get to return to a normal life of the nutters.

vienna
05-21-11, 05:01 PM
Well, it just now hit 3:00 p.m. here in Los Angeles and no rapture...

Hmm...I thought there were more people than this in this room...

Torplexed
05-21-11, 05:18 PM
Well, it just now hit 3:00 p.m. here in Los Angeles and no rapture...

Hmm...I thought there were more people than this in this room...

There was a rapture. I think one guy in Albuquerque was taken up. Sadly, he was sucked into the engine intake of a Southwest Airlines 737. The rest of us didn't make the cut. :yep:

Betonov
05-21-11, 05:19 PM
I'm already in sunday, 20 minutes past midnight.

FIREWALL
05-21-11, 05:21 PM
Excuseing frau k. Do you guys enen have a penis ? :O: :roll:

Betonov
05-21-11, 05:24 PM
Yep, it's stil here, where it has been for the last 25 years.

krashkart
05-21-11, 05:26 PM
I heard just today that the end will come at 6PM EST, which was 24 minutes ago by the clock on this computing machine. I don't feel any different. :hmmm:

I'm hanging with my family today, so on the off chance that this turns out to be true I'll at least die happy. :DL

Platapus
05-21-11, 05:28 PM
I don't feel any different. :hmmm:




Maybe when people are raptured to heaven they don't feel any different?

(cure spooky transcendentalist music) :o

vienna
05-21-11, 05:39 PM
I just came to the realization that even if the Rapture came, I'd have no way of seeing people ascending; I live in Hollywood...

krashkart
05-21-11, 05:45 PM
Maybe when people are raptured to heaven they don't feel any different?

(cure spooky transcendentalist music) :o


I don't know that I've earned Rapture. :D A rap-ture on the knuckles with a yardstick, maybe. :-?
But I've started wondering the same. Would things be any different? Or are we forever stuck in this nightmare? :huh:

BTW, Comedy Central is still broadcasting. I think we're in the clear. :woot:


I just came to the realization that even if the Rapture came, I'd have no way of seeing people ascending; I live in Hollywood...

LOL :haha:

Howard313
05-21-11, 05:52 PM
almost 7:00pm here. That makes it official. This is the 4th end of the world I've lived through.....I deserve a medal.

geetrue
05-21-11, 05:56 PM
Hey! Time is up Mr Harold Camping or else they have all gone and left us behind ...

Besides the bible plainly states that no man not even the angels in heaven know the time or the date of the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Of course the rapture is believed by many to happen right before that event, but then why warn all of his believers about the anti-christ and
everyone being given a chance to accept or reject the number 666 in order to buy or sell anything.

Testing, testing ... God is always testing our faith

More than once Jesus said that he would return just like a thief in the night:

But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.

“Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches , and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."

FIREWALL
05-21-11, 06:01 PM
How many of you THOUGHT you let a fart and, dido it in your pants. :har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

I add this this as you've all been posting your big thinkers. :yep:

Apoliges if your offended. :salute:

Rhodes
05-21-11, 06:19 PM
almost 7:00pm here. That makes it official. This is the 4th end of the world I've lived through.....I deserve a medal.

Well this was just my second (at least I can not remember other prior to the year 2000). I am going to rapture a nice sleep. Wake me if Jesus comes and raptures someone, etc!

geetrue
05-21-11, 06:19 PM
How many of you THOUGHT you let a fart and, dido it in your pants. :har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

I add this this as you've all been posting your big thinkers. :yep:

Apoliges if your offended. :salute:

Beware you still have 1:45 minutes left on the west coast for the rapture,
plus if your over a certain age everyone knows that a dry fart is just a dry fart,
but a wet fart is just plain sh*t :yep:

Platapus
05-21-11, 06:28 PM
Here I sit
Broken Hearted
Paid a dime
And only farted
So I said
I'll take a chance
Tried to fart and
(blank) my pants.

:D

And they say that an education in classic literature is wasted. :har:

Molon Labe
05-21-11, 06:31 PM
Not so fast guys: http://www.therightperspective.org/2011/05/21/iceland-volcano-erupts/

Iceland's most active volcano, Grimsvötn, has erupted sending plumes of ash 18,000 meters into the air and setting off at least 50 earthquakes in the surrounding area.The end is near!!!

FIREWALL
05-21-11, 07:00 PM
:har:Here I sit
Broken Hearted
Paid a dime
And only farted
So I said
I'll take a chance
Tried to fart and
(blank) my pants.

:D

And they say that an education in classic literature is wasted. :har:


:har::har::har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::har::har:: har:

FIREWALL
05-21-11, 07:02 PM
:har:Beware you still have 1:45 minutes left on the west coast for the rapture,
plus if your over a certain age everyone knows that a dry fart is just a dry fart,
but a wet fart is just plain sh*t :yep:

:haha::har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Wolfehunter
05-21-11, 07:04 PM
I'm still here muhaahaahaa.. :har:

Wait? :o

Maybe... :hmmm:

We're already in hell? :06:


Hell YA!!!! :rock:

Castout
05-21-11, 07:07 PM
Hey! Time is up Mr Harold Camping or else they have all gone and left us behind ...

Besides the bible plainly states that no man not even the angels in heaven know the time or the date of the second coming of Jesus Christ.

Of course the rapture is believed by many to happen right before that event, but then why warn all of his believers about the anti-christ and
everyone being given a chance to accept or reject the number 666 in order to buy or sell anything.

Testing, testing ... God is always testing our faith

More than once Jesus said that he would return just like a thief in the night:

But know this, that if the master of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched and not allowed his house to be broken into.

---8220;Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches , and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame."

The bible doesn't teach rapture(pre-tribulation rapture). Bible scholar will tell you that too. But again the bible doesn't teach immediate life after death nor immediate judgment after death nor two judgments after death either(immediate and at the end of days).

The majority of Christianity has changed so much from the teaching of early church that the early church people would have not recognized it had they been alive.:hmmm:

The thing is most people are not smart enough to be critical enough. COMMON SENSE should be the ground for even any belief(be that religious one or atheism). Many of those who believe DO NOT even know the teaching of their belief EVEN when they read the bible daily. They are content with the thought they know Christianity from the lips of other people. It's much better to approach reading the bible as an honest and child like attitude so there's no preconceived ideas to pollute the understanding. It's absolutely outrageous that most Christians expect immediate life after death even when their Savior descended to the world of the dead for three days and rose not with the dead but from AMONG the dead. NOW most Christian think he can't never die and will live forever in one form or another. That's blasphemy. These people need to learn two words: Being a MORTAL and MORTALITY.

For God sake if people would live in one form or another after they died, what would there be a need for a SAVIOR in the first place? It would be just NATURE! It's outrageous to expect life after death without DIRECT intervention by the almighty God. Men don't live forever in one form or another.

Even when I know ghosts that I see rarely, death should encompass the ceasing of consciousness even to the spirit of dead people. In other words they should have been resting, waiting in the world of the dead, deprived of consciousness and not wondering around.

darius359au
05-21-11, 07:16 PM
What ,you lot are still here? *sigh* can't crazy preacher man get anything right....:03::D

TarJak
05-21-11, 08:39 PM
almost 7:00pm here. That makes it official. This is the 4th end of the world I've lived through.....I deserve a medal.
Here you go
http://centria.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/dsc01851.jpg?w=500&h=666

FIREWALL
05-21-11, 08:47 PM
I still think your all the best, :salute: I'm watching Liam Neeson " TAKEN " :woot:

CCIP
05-22-11, 02:49 AM
So the featured article on Wikipedia's front page for May 22nd is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Hates_Us_All

I get it!
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: :har: :haha:

Platapus
05-22-11, 06:57 AM
7:56am East Coast time 22 May 2011

Still here, still had to clean up puppy poop at 0700

Of course I will be spending some of the morning with my dogs at the dog park so perhaps I am in heaven... if only for a few hours anyway.

Platapus
05-22-11, 07:11 AM
Perhaps this was a test of the Emergency Judgment Day system.

If this had been an actual rapture, you would have been relocated to your alternative JD location.

This concludes the test of the Emergency Judgment Day system

We now return you to your life of sinning

Armistead
05-22-11, 08:36 AM
The bible doesn't teach rapture(pre-tribulation rapture). Bible scholar will tell you that too. But again the bible doesn't teach immediate life after death nor immediate judgment after death nor two judgments after death either(immediate and at the end of days).

The majority of Christianity has changed so much from the teaching of early church that the early church people would have not recognized it had they been alive.:hmmm:

The thing is most people are not smart enough to be critical enough. COMMON SENSE should be the ground for even any belief(be that religious one or atheism). Many of those who believe DO NOT even know the teaching of their belief EVEN when they read the bible daily. They are content with the thought they know Christianity from the lips of other people. It's much better to approach reading the bible as an honest and child like attitude so there's no preconceived ideas to pollute the understanding. It's absolutely outrageous that most Christians expect immediate life after death even when their Savior descended to the world of the dead for three days and rose not with the dead but from AMONG the dead. NOW most Christian think he can't never die and will live forever in one form or another. That's blasphemy. These people need to learn two words: Being a MORTAL and MORTALITY.

For God sake if people would live in one form or another after they died, what would there be a need for a SAVIOR in the first place? It would be just NATURE! It's outrageous to expect life after death without DIRECT intervention by the almighty God. Men don't live forever in one form or another.

Even when I know ghosts that I see rarely, death should encompass the ceasing of consciousness even to the spirit of dead people. In other words they should have been resting, waiting in the world of the dead, deprived of consciousness and not wondering around.

This is the problem, depending on what denomination, what scholars and a host of translation issues you can create a host of biblical doctrines that don't agree, but use the bible to prove each one. I studied the bible for years blindly accepting the doctrine of my denomination and bible college to boot. It was learning some greek that I had issues with my denominations teaching, but it was later in life that I studied the bible through many lenses, beside history, politics and culture...The fact is you can about prove any doctrine you desire , including rapture, pre, mid or post trib, dead in grave, with Christ right after death, etc..

To say many studied christians aren't studied would be wrong, many are and believe totally different.

The Lord can speak to people differently. I don't care how the Lord speaks to someone on what to do, it's when the Lord starts speaking to them to to tell me what to do I have issue.

In the end, man decided what books and writing to place in the bible, man translated it based on his cultural and often political agenda over and over.
Why it's possible the men that wrote scripture were inspired by God, I highly doubt the men that put the bible together were.

Armistead
05-22-11, 08:45 AM
I see Mr. Camping just posted a youtube video saying that he was wrong.
Basically the entire message was blamed on Satan for screwing up his math, Satan this or Satan that...It's that same old excuse, not my problem, the devil did it.

He did say he would retire, but I'm sure all of this is just part of his plan in his overall scheme to take money from people...He'll be back.

Torplexed
05-22-11, 08:50 AM
I see Mr. Camping just posted a youtube video saying that he was wrong.
Basically the entire message was blamed on Satan for screwing up his math, Satan this or Satan that...It's that same old excuse, not my problem, the devil did it.



It'll be excuse enough to keep his particular flock content with their continued fleecing. :shifty:

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 09:36 AM
It'll be excuse enough to keep his particular flock content with their continued fleecing. :shifty:

This.
On a side note, there is a peticular religion that has predicted the end of the earth several times, and somehow, they still have followers.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f199/DannyHaszard/JEHOVAH%20WITNESS%20ART/Perverts.jpg

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 09:46 AM
I'll just add this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC6UrMTC73A

frau kaleun
05-22-11, 10:23 AM
So the featured article on Wikipedia's front page for May 22nd is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Hates_Us_All

I get it!
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: :har: :haha:

http://rickischultz.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/win-button.jpg

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 10:24 AM
I just saw this story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_apocalypse_saturday


OAKLAND, Calif. – The hour of the apocalypse came quietly and went the same way — leaving those who believed that Saturday evening would mark the world's end confused, or more faithful, or just philosophical.
Believers had spent months warning the world of the pending cataclysm. Some had given away earthly belongings. Others took long journeys to be with loved ones. And there were those who drained their savings accounts.


I thought they were talking about the Ray-duhz:haha:

onelifecrisis
05-22-11, 10:27 AM
We're still here? God damn it.

Platapus
05-22-11, 10:30 AM
I see Mr. Camping just posted a youtube video saying that he was wrong.


Do you have a link to that video. I can't find it on youtube

MH
05-22-11, 10:38 AM
http://th00.deviantart.net/fs27/300W/i/2008/136/1/1/While_we__re_still_Here_by_Ausagi.png (http://ausagi.deviantart.com/art/Why-are-WE-still-here-85646278)

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 10:57 AM
http://orthocath.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/armageddon.jpg

The day the subsim server melted...

August
05-22-11, 11:50 AM
http://orthocath.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/armageddon.jpg

The day the subsim server melted...

Armageddon? That's just a normal tuesday afternoon in Houston.

Skybird
05-22-11, 12:01 PM
If you were a god - would you like the idea to have so many crooked-headed believers moving to a cloud next to you?

It seems for once He has had a clever idea to not let them. :haha:

Torplexed
05-22-11, 12:18 PM
If you were a god - would you like the idea to have so many crooked-headed believers moving to a cloud next to you?

It seems for once He has had a clever idea to not let them. :haha:

Skybird! You're weren't taken up? :DL After all you are the one who soars.

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 12:20 PM
Skybird! You're weren't taken up? :DL After all you are the one who soars.

Post of the year!:har::har::har::har::har::har::har:

Skybird
05-22-11, 12:32 PM
Technically, angels differentiate profane soaring from divinely levitating, so: no luck for me! ;)

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 12:42 PM
Technically, angels differentiate profane soaring from divinely levitating, so: no luck for me! ;)

oh well, better luck next time.:D

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 04:08 PM
Other great "end o' world" predictions:
1914, 1915, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994, etc. were other dates that the Watchtower Society (http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness.htm) (WTS) or its members predicted. http://www.religioustolerance.org/_themes/topo/topbul2d.gifSince late in the 19th century, they had taught that the "battle of the Great Day of God Almighty" (Armageddon) would happen in 1914 CE (http://www.religioustolerance.org/ce.htm). It didn't. http://www.religioustolerance.org/_themes/topo/topbul2d.gifThe next major estimate was 1925. Watchtower magazine predicted: "The year 1925 is a date definitely and clearly marked in the Scriptures, even more clearly than that of 1914; but it would be presumptuous on the part of any faithful follower of the Lord to assume just what the Lord is going to do during that year." 6http://www.religioustolerance.org/_themes/topo/topbul2d.gifThe Watchtower Society selected 1975 as its next main prediction. This was based on the estimate "according to reliable Bible chronology Adam was created in the year 4026 BCE, likely in the autumn of the year, at the end of the sixth day of creation." 8 They believed that the year 1975 a promising date for the end of the world, as it was the 6,000th anniversary of Adam's creation. Exactly 1,000 years was to pass for each day of the creation week. This prophecy also failed. http://www.religioustolerance.org/_themes/topo/topbul2d.gifThe current estimate is that the end of the world as we know it will happen precisely 6000 years after the creation of Eve. 9 There is no way of knowing when this happened.http://www.religioustolerance.org/_themes/topo/topbul2d.gifMore details on the WTS predictions (http://www.religioustolerance.org/witness8.htm).

vienna
05-22-11, 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CCIP http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1668260#post1668260)
So the featured article on Wikipedia's front page for May 22nd is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Hates_Us_All

I get it!
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2: :har: :haha:


"I don't want to start any blasphemous rumors,
But I think that God's got a sick sense of humor,
And when I die, I expect to find him laughing"

(Blasphemous Rumors, Depeche Mode)


An aquaintance of mine, a product of an old school Jesuit education like myself, once wondered why, in the vast expanse of the universe, we seem to be the only inhabited planet within sight or detection. We discussed this over a few rounds of liquid enlightenment (in the process boring the bejesus out of our then wives) and we came upon a theory: suppose there has already been an apocalypse, we have already been judged and this planet is our afterlife; we have been effectively banished from all contact with the rest of the universe (or creation) and thus we have never had contact with any other life form. It is something to ponder.

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 04:56 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_653_4FsTEfc/SstBWZIo5zI/AAAAAAAAAfs/Xa4h0HJEnrQ/s1600/lol_cat_jesus.jpg

FIREWALL
05-22-11, 05:27 PM
By now your butts must be sore. :har:

Growler
05-22-11, 05:58 PM
I was away over the weekend.

Did I miss anything?

nikimcbee
05-22-11, 06:08 PM
I was away over the weekend.

Did I miss anything?

apperently not.:haha:

Rockstar
05-22-11, 06:38 PM
Well it was the end of days for two wasp nests in the backyard. They suffered great wrath and a flood of liquid pesticide.

CaptainMattJ.
05-22-11, 07:12 PM
i wish there was at least some precision guided rapture to smite those damned Heats.

They sure as hell arent going to see any more NBA playoffs if God has any sense of moral being.

Sailor Steve
05-22-11, 10:28 PM
i wish there was at least some precision guided rapture to smite those damned Heats.

They sure as hell arent going to see any more NBA playoffs if God has any sense of moral being.
We in Utah feel no pity for you at all. :O:

Torplexed
05-22-11, 11:13 PM
I guess the word is that the Harold Camping guy who saw this non-event coming has gone into hiding.

I can't imagine why. :O:

Blacklight
05-22-11, 11:57 PM
Most of these "Fundamentalist doomsday prophets" don't seem to realize that they're trying to read their numbers out of a Bible that has been told through word of mouth, written down, re-written, re-interprested, re-written again, re-interpreted to push someones agenda, re-written again, told through word of mouth, re-written and re-interpreted again, (this list goes on almost endlessly). What a lot of these people call the modern Bible is probably so different from what was written, that it's probably hardly even the same thing it was concieved as.

Torplexed
05-23-11, 12:16 AM
Most of these "Fundamentalist doomsday prophets" don't seem to realize that they're trying to read their numbers out of a Bible that has been told through word of mouth, written down, re-written, re-interprested, re-written again, re-interpreted to push someones agenda, re-written again, told through word of mouth, re-written and re-interpreted again, (this list goes on almost endlessly). What a lot of these people call the modern Bible is probably so different from what was written, that it's probably hardly even the same thing it was concieved as.

Yeah, but when you tell a strict fundamentalist that a book they consider the literal and inspired word of God has been through centuries of a historical, philosophic and linguistic cuisinart they tend to get bent out of shape. :03:

joegrundman
05-23-11, 01:09 AM
Most of these "Fundamentalist doomsday prophets" don't seem to realize that they're trying to read their numbers out of a Bible that has been told through word of mouth, written down, re-written, re-interprested, re-written again, re-interpreted to push someones agenda, re-written again, told through word of mouth, re-written and re-interpreted again, (this list goes on almost endlessly). What a lot of these people call the modern Bible is probably so different from what was written, that it's probably hardly even the same thing it was concieved as.

so what you are saying is.. if they had used the actual original document they would have got the date of rapture correct?

Howard313
05-23-11, 02:00 AM
Most of these "Fundamentalist doomsday prophets" don't seem to realize that they're trying to read their numbers out of a Bible that has been told through word of mouth, written down, re-written, re-interprested, re-written again, re-interpreted to push someones agenda, re-written again, told through word of mouth, re-written and re-interpreted again, (this list goes on almost endlessly). What a lot of these people call the modern Bible is probably so different from what was written, that it's probably hardly even the same thing it was concieved as.

Spot on, you have to be careful reading the bible we can only guess how much of the original documents have been edited and reinterpreted down the lines of history, reducing their accuracy of actual events in the process.

so what you are saying is.. if they had used the actual original document they would have got the date of rapture correct? I doubt that, only God knows when the world will truly end. I don't care how many ways you add up the numbers or codes you try to crack. Even with the original documents.

Edit: ech, reading what I wrote i realized what a touchy subject religion can be, so I'd just like to add this is all just personal opinion.

Skybird
05-23-11, 02:23 AM
The End of the World (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/science-explains-the-end-of-the-world/2011/05/10/AFaLvBiG_blog.html)


It---8217;s that word ---8216;tradition---8217; that should raise our critical hackles. It refers to a collection of beliefs handed down through generations ---8211; as opposed to beliefs founded on evidence. Evidence-free beliefs are, by definition, groundless. What my ---8216;tradition---8217; (or your ---8216;tradition---8217; or the Dalai Lama---8217;s ---8216;tradition---8217; or Osama bin Laden---8217;s ---8216;tradition---8217; or the bad-trip ---8216;tradition---8217; of whoever wrote Revelation) says about anything in the real world (including its end) is no more likely to be true than any urban legend, idle rumor, superstition, or science fiction novel. Yet, the moment you slap the word ---8216;tradition---8217; onto a made-up story you confer on it a spurious dignity, which we are solemnly asked to ---8216;respect---8217;.


A godless apocalypse (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/a-godless-apocalypse/2011/05/11/AFIw26qG_blog.html)


The Ultimate Tyranny (http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/paula_kirby/2011/02/religion_the_ultimate_tyranny.html)

End Time Theology (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/end-times-theology-an-insiders-guide/2011/05/10/AFCsXAiG_blog.html)


As I grew older and started reading the Bible more holistically, I realized that this kind of prognostication was a house of cards. Not only that, it had disastrous consequences. After all, why care about global climate change if you believe God is about to burn it up to a cinder anyway? Why worry about peak oil if the world will end before the oil economy collapses? Why address systemic injustice - economic, racial, sexual, political, environmental - if you assume it---8217;s God---8217;s will for things to get worse and worse so it all can be swept away in final judgment?

So what do I think about it all, man.made deities, thought-out gods that die their believers's brain go exitus, and belief concepots that focus on the end of the world and hellfire action show for some, lethal boredom on cloud number 9 for others? I think Nietzsche is spot on:


When the centre of gravity of life is placed, not in life itself, but in "the beyond" - in nothingness - thenone has taken away its centre of gravity altogether. The vast lie of personal immortality destroys all reason, all natural instinct - henceforth, everything in the instincts that is beneficial, that fosters life and that safeguards the future is a cause of suspicion. So to live that life no longer has any meaning: this is now the "meaning" of life---8230; Why be public-spirited? Why take any pride in descent and forefathers? Why labour together, trust one another, or concern one's self about the common welfare, and try to serve it? Merely so many "temptations," so many strayings from the "straight path." ---8211; ---8220;One thing only is necessary"---8230; That every man, because he has an "immortal soul," is as good as every other man; that in an infinite universe of things the "salvation" of every individual may lay claim to eternal importance; that insignificant bigots and the three-fourths insane may assume that the laws of nature are constantly suspended in their behalf - it is impossible to lavish too much contempt upon such a magnification of every sort of selfishness to infinity, to insolence. [---8230;]The "salvation of the soul" - in plain English: "the world revolves around me." ---8230; [---8230;] To allow "immortality" to every Peter and Paul was the greatest, the most vicious outrage upon noble humanity ever perpetrated

Skybird
05-23-11, 02:25 AM
What'S up with the quoting function? I notice since maybe two weeks the number messups, also have seen it in posts by at least two others.

Torplexed
05-23-11, 06:44 AM
Well, at least Camping has resurfaced. I thought this was hilarious, from here:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...JIK7.DTL&tsp=1 (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/22/BAKO1JJIK7.DTL&tsp=1)

"It has been a really tough weekend," said Harold Camping, the 89-year-old fundamentalist radio preacher who convinced hundreds of his followers that the rapture would occur on Saturday at 6 p.m." When the world doesn't erupt in earthquake in flame, it's a loser of a weekend. :03:

August
05-23-11, 11:10 AM
so what you are saying is.. if they had used the actual original document they would have got the date of rapture correct?

What actual original document? There was none. Bible stories were passed on verbally from generation to generation for thousands of years.

Feuer Frei!
05-23-11, 11:19 AM
What actual original document? There was none. Bible stories were passed on verbally from generation to generation for thousands of years.
Everything has an origin.
He may be referring to the first complete original manuscript of the bible, which was a (Hand-Written) manuscript of the Complete Bible; All 80 Books.
In 1384 AD.

joegrundman
05-23-11, 12:37 PM
Everything has an origin.
He may be referring to the first complete original manuscript of the bible, which was a (Hand-Written) manuscript of the Complete Bible; All 80 Books.
In 1384 AD.

very generous of you, but no, i did not have anything coherent in mind

vienna
05-23-11, 01:50 PM
If you want to get an idea of how totally mangled the present day versions of the Bible really are, find the book "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart D. Ehrman. He is from the old, fundamentalist school of bible scholarship who set out to find for himself the true sources of the New Testament and, instead, found a wealth of eroors, misconceptions, political editing (both religious and secular), and outright fakery as the "text" passed down through many hands and eras. The extent of the "edits" were so profound, Ehrman renounced his fundamentalist beliefs. One of the items in the book I found most amusing was the exisitence of hand-illuminated pages that were rejected and still bear the editing remarks of the monks who rejected the pages. I often recommend this book to those who tell me they have "the one, true word"...

mapuc
05-23-11, 04:52 PM
Here are som facts

The scientist expect a huge solarstorm in the end of 2012 or in the beginning of 2013. The shield that protect us has during the last years been decreasing-and they don't know why.(seen on danish and swedish tv) Imagine what would happen to our society, if all the eletricity disappeared.

The Yellow Stone is about to erupte!? Red in a danish newspaper that the ground has rised about so and so much.As an american volcano expert said, to the danish newspaper: The eruption could happen tomorrow or sometimes in the next 100 years and we can't tell if it will be lots of small eruptions or a big one.

So you understand our society, infrastructor a.s.o, could go under tomorrow or next week. nobody knows. But the earth(tellus)that we live on, will remain for billions of years to come, at least until the sun dies.

Regards
Markus

Sailor Steve
05-23-11, 06:26 PM
..."Misquoting Jesus" by Bart D. Ehrman.
Ehrman has written several interesting books on Biblical scholarship. I've skimmed through most of them at the library, but never found the time for a thorough reading. Despite that, his works show him to be a dedicated scholar and student of his subject. Fascinating stuff.

Skybird
05-23-11, 07:44 PM
It doesn'T matter whetheror not the bible is "original", and in the end there even is doubt that Jesus ever has lived indeed, or is just a fictional figure. The only question is if, and if yes in what way the teaching of Jesuus makes sense for living in modern time, or not.

Which also means that most parts of the bible consists of profane fiction from archaic times before the gospels' timeframe, and blown-up stuff about attention-craving wannabe-greats like Paul after him that are shown to have thought they must ennoble the master'S example by their own sermon.

Hear-say and verbal transmission remains hear-say and verbal transmission, nothing more, no matter how long the tradition of doing so has grown - as one of the linked essays above argues, the simple fact that there even is such a tradition should make people sceptic.

Nobody would take the rule booklet for Monopoly as a document of real historic meaning, describing real events. And fairy tale adventures, sex and crime in old fairy tales nobody with a sane mind would take as real fact. But when a caste of self-declared priests benefit from claiming both for a book they base their very earthly powers on, then the intellect immediately capitulates and waves the white flag...?

Feuer Frei!
05-23-11, 11:57 PM
It doesn'T matter whetheror not the bible is "original"
It does to us belivers, trust me.
It makes a big, big difference.
I've said it before and i'll say it again, why and how do you get denominations in religion?
The Bible has been re-written and ie re-interpreted so many ways that it isn't funny.
Why?
To suit each and every so-called beliver out there, to suit their lifestyles and their own beliefs, rather than believing the original and unabridged version.
If you (not you Sky, i'm talking in general here) are a TRUE believer, then why in the heck do you change the Lord's words in the first place!
That to me is not right.
Hypocrytical, yes.
and in the end there even is doubt that Jesus ever has lived indeed, or is just a fictional figure. The only question is if, and if yes in what way the teaching of Jesuus makes sense for living in modern time, or not.
Ofc to us belivers he is and was alive.
And in relation to what book to use as our guide, if you will, to use in our day to day lives?
The New Testament ofc.

As to the rest of your post, i don't have currently time to answer that, i will endeavour to reply at some stage.
Inbetween breaks atm.
:salute:

Tribesman
05-24-11, 02:08 AM
It was an "invisible judgement day", the world still ends in october
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/us/24rapture.html?ref=us

Skybird
05-24-11, 05:02 AM
It does to us belivers, trust me.
It makes a big, big difference.

The world must not be concerned about "believers". I say again: what matters is whether or not Jesus' teaching, fictional figure or not, makes sense (=is reasonable, =in the service of man and nature, =brings out the good or the worse in man) in modern time, or not. If you tell the same wisdom in the symbology of Tolkien's Middle Earth or print the gospels in Klingon, is not the matter at all. Indeed, sometimes in films, poetry, paintings, music, mnaking an experience with a beloived person or gazing at the landscape that just has stunned us, we do perceive this deep wisdom, it touches a string in our heart and lifts us above our everyday life for a moment. We then sometimes call such moments catharsis.

If believers are as concerned or even more concerned about the messager than the message, and put the apper it is written on above the content, than this is a problem of theirs. But that they do so is no excuse to see their claims as more valid or important.

Skybird
05-24-11, 06:02 AM
It does to us belivers, trust me.
It makes a big, big difference.

The world must not be concerned about "believers". I say again: what matters is whether or not Jesus' teaching, fictional figure or not, makes sense (=is reasonable, =in the service of man and nature, =brings out the good or the worse in man) in modern time, or not. If you tell the same wisdom in the symbology of Tolkien's Middle Earth or print the gospels in Klingon, is not the matter at all. Indeed, sometimes in films, poetry, paintings, music, mnaking an experience with a beloived person or gazing at the landscape that just has stunned us, we do perceive this deep wisdom, it touches a string in our heart and lifts us above our everyday life for a moment. We then sometimes call such moments catharsis.

If believers are as concerned or even more concerned about the messager than the message, and put the apper it is written on above the content, than this is a problem of theirs. But that they do so is no excuse to see their claims as more valid or important.

On behalf of the rest of youir posting, that a content of belief is being turned arbitary to meet just every Peter and Paul's demand, note that Nietzsche, one of the most misunderstood and misquoted philosophers in history, criticises exactly the same thing, and attacked the churches viciously for it. I would do the same especially with the Protestant church, if I would bother. Not only am I, or Nietzsche, at war with these institutions' abuse of the Christian message, to found their earthly influence on, but they do not even stick to their own roots anymore. Which does not mean I have more respect for the ceremonial parts of the catholic or any orthodox church.

All this does not mean that I do not see that many people crave for the reassurance about themselves and their mlives that the way it is it makes saense, and gives them any kind of influence or control over the future, and life. Spiritual every being must be that is intelligent enough to realise its own mortality, so that it necessarily must ask where we come from, where we go, how much time we have left, and why all this is happening. I include the option that even some higher animals may be capable of realising this. People cannot bear, usually, to live in a random world over whose goings and events they have no control, for most of us this "chaos" translates into unsafety and helplessness, and thus: threat. This is why we are so good in raising artificial belief systems asn organise our livings and goings the way we do, we add structure to a world that due to our unability to understand it in full we feel threatened by. Most of us gho so far that we are satisfied by not finding a meaning in life, but attributing meaning to life by our own hands. This is what religions do. But we nevertheless allow our minds to get stunned and paralysed by the shadowplay on the wall that we create with out hands before the candle we have formed ourselves and and have lit ourselves. To many of us, this attributes enough comfort and reassurance that we live our life happily and at peace with the douibts in our mind. But this nevertheless is a dead end for those few who see true freedom from the shackles of the material maya-play, Buddha says that clearly, Jesus says that clearly, and a couple on Christian mystics and Zen-masters say so as well. Building your house on sand will not give you a strong fundament, and trying to find everlasting happiness in a world of transitoriness is a strategy doomed to fail from beginning on. Realsing ourselves can only be had at the price of giving up our "self", can only be had by self-transcendence. This is what is an inevitable precondition to experience the "mystic death" as they called it in the Middle Ages, to experience the unio mystica, for no man (no "self") can see the face of God, and live, it is written. Nothing holy - empty void, says Zen. Mystic spiritual expereince is no half-business, and knows no compromise, and it is an issue of life and death. Rites and rituals, dogmas and traditions - let them go, give up these false beliefs. Your bows are in vein, your ceremonials adress nobody and acchieve nothing. If you meet Buddha, kill Buddha - even in yourself. As long as you realside yourself to be "you", you are still enslaved inside the illusory play that this world of maya is. Step beyond this illusion, tear it apart by climbing on top of the cliff and there jump into the abyss, no return - this is when your conceptions all will and must die, and grace will light up to make you aware that this is what you always have been, and never can be any different, even in the time you have been blinded by your conceptional illusions.

This is the only spiritual pratcice there is, this is what it all is about. Everything else is just self-deception to evade into an apparent easier, more comfortable life, but in the end you will not have understood when dying and thus must book another round on the karmic wheel of time, with your former life echoing on inside this dream inside a dream.

Mystic Angelus Silesius said:
"Stirb, ehe du noch stirbst,
damit du nicht wrist sterben,
wenn du denn sterben sollst,
sonst möchtest du verderben."

And one mentor of mine wrote about this passage in a book (looked it up again, just for you! :) ) : "Nobody else can do this mystic dying in our place, neither a Buddha nor a Jesus Christ, in the same way like it does not ease the thirst of the reader when I drink a glass of water. We are trapped in a disastrous fallacy when we believe that Jesus has died at the cross in our place. He did not die in 'our place', but for our sake. Hre did not go the way of totasl, uncompromised self-renunciation in order to free us withiout our own deed, but in order to show us how we could free ourselve. That'S why he said in the Matthew gospel: Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls (Mt 11,29). This is the deciding point, it even is the whole turning point to clear understanding of Christ'S passion. Salvation by the Divine by revealing tiself to man in Jesus is anything but a sweeping flat-rate-salvation. Else it would not make any sense when Jesus says: "Whoever wants to be my disciple (1) must deny themselves and (2) take up their cross and (3) follow me (follow my example) (Mt 16,24).

What place has rituals, dogmas, beliefs and holy books or Buddha statues in this - other than just locking you inside your illusions about Maya, an illusory stageplac that you write and call to life all by yourself? ;) You may life a comfortable, easy life that way, the slave is free in that he must no make choices and miust not bear responsibility. Most people are satisfied with this, and make themselves a home in wallowing religious ceremonies and emotions. But there is a cost.

Becoming inhabitant of the kingdom of heaven, becoming a Buddha, becoming an Übermensch in Nietzsche's terminology: it all means the same thing, it all means the death of the individual ego , and the freedom of one mind that results from this.

Skybird
05-24-11, 06:24 AM
BTW, this funny fool has admitted his calculation were misled a bit. He now has delayed doomsday by another five months.

I think he just buys time, hoping to have died before anybody could hold him accountable for the money he took.

Feuer Frei!
05-24-11, 06:53 AM
BTW, this funny fool has admitted his calculation were misled a bit. He now has delayed doomsday by another five months.

I think he just buys time, hoping to have died before anybody could hold him accountable for the money he took.

And when he dies, he can tell the rest of us:
"See i told you so"! :haha:

Armistead
05-24-11, 09:31 AM
If you want to get an idea of how totally mangled the present day versions of the Bible really are, find the book "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart D. Ehrman. He is from the old, fundamentalist school of bible scholarship who set out to find for himself the true sources of the New Testament and, instead, found a wealth of eroors, misconceptions, political editing (both religious and secular), and outright fakery as the "text" passed down through many hands and eras. The extent of the "edits" were so profound, Ehrman renounced his fundamentalist beliefs. One of the items in the book I found most amusing was the exisitence of hand-illuminated pages that were rejected and still bear the editing remarks of the monks who rejected the pages. I often recommend this book to those who tell me they have "the one, true word"...

I put away my fundamentalist beliefs about 20 years ago in my late 20's, but then more due to the constant hate and bickering in church, any fundy church, but had started my own open minded study on doctrine and found so much of it tied to political causes of the past.

I studied Bart's work, but also find it suspect and full of speculation. I wouldn't say because the original scripts are gone that we can't trust the writings as correct. Do they have numerous additions, translation errors, etc, over the years...yes, but those don't detract hardly at all.

For me my issues stem more from political influence and how it created many misused doctrines, but I found this to be cultural as well as people made doctrine to fit more to their cultural status.

In the end, anyone that studies the bible openmindingly trying to discern all the political, religious and cultural leanings will find themselves at truly an impossible task of forming a belief system. Not saying you can't have one, but how can you trust it. We have many religions, numerous denominations and 1000's of doctrines that argue with each other, each suspect, all claiming they're right, but as man we're supposed to get it right or be tortured in hell eternally......I understand the path many like Bart take, bout took it myself. You form a hate against fundamentalist beliefs, then religion, usually resulting in atheism. The smart ones like Bart often create a strawmans argument as a base making it easy for them to knock down. It isn't that simple as they make it. Often out of hate they seek to steer people away from belief.

All I can say is I just don't know. Doe's God exist, I hope so, but I suffer often severe doubt. Still, I could stand before God and say I truly tried to grasp it and in doing so lost it to the greater degree.

kiwi_2005
05-24-11, 01:39 PM
Its not over yet!!!

Apocalypse preacher now saying Oct 21 :timeout:

California preacher Harold Camping said his prophecy that the world would end was off by five months because Judgment Day actually will come on October 21. :doh: :roll:

For those Silent hunter players of 3,4 & 5 you have 5 months to clock the campaign :arrgh!:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5046003/Apocalypse-preacher-now-saying-Oct-21

Howard313
05-24-11, 04:11 PM
Its not over yet!!!

Apocalypse preacher now saying Oct 21 :timeout:

California preacher Harold Camping said his prophecy that the world would end was off by five months because Judgment Day actually will come on October 21. :doh: :roll:

For those Silent hunter players of 3,4 & 5 you have 5 months to clock the campaign :arrgh!:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5046003/Apocalypse-preacher-now-saying-Oct-21

I guess third time's the charm.

mapuc
05-24-11, 04:20 PM
Here's something I do not understand. I recall that he ALWAYS claimed, that may 21th 2011 was Judgement day and oct 21 2011 was the day the world was coming to an end. Or is the something that I have missed?

Markus

TarJak
05-24-11, 04:29 PM
ONOZE! I have to live thru the end of the world again?:damn:

Oh well I'll do what I did last time and sleep through it.

Growler
05-24-11, 04:31 PM
IIRC, his claim was that the good ones would be raptured 21 May 11, and that the tribulation would occur over the next 5 months, until 21 Oct 11, when the system goes on-line and human decisions are removed from strategic defense. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

TarJak
05-24-11, 04:43 PM
IIRC, his claim was that the good ones would be raptured 21 May 11, Looks like he missed out then.:oops:

Bakkels
05-24-11, 05:12 PM
Here's something I do not understand. I recall that he ALWAYS claimed, that may 21th 2011 was Judgement day and oct 21 2011 was the day the world was coming to an end. Or is the something that I have missed?

Markus

As I understood it, may 21th the 'rapture' would take place and all the people who have behaved well would go to heaven (I heard unconfirmed rumors about Santa Claus helping out with intelligence reports on this) and the rest would stay here. On this 21th there would be a massive earthquake that would signal the start of the world coming to an end. Then a lot of other disasters and on october 21t the big finale.

btw, is anybody aware that he also predicted the world would come to an end in '88 and in '94? :nope:

Platapus
05-24-11, 05:14 PM
Here's something I do not understand. I recall that he ALWAYS claimed, that may 21th 2011 was Judgement day and oct 21 2011 was the day the world was coming to an end. Or is the something that I have missed?

Markus

only that Camping is a lying POS faker con artist who is taking advantage of the tax laws to have his radio stations support time while not drawing a salary.

Platapus
05-24-11, 05:15 PM
As I understood it, may 21th the 'rapture' would take place and all the people who have behaved well would go to heaven (I heard unconfirmed rumors about Santa Claus helping out with intelligence reports on this)


Platapus ----> naughty


:up:

frau kaleun
05-24-11, 06:28 PM
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/funny-pictures-quelle-surprise.jpg

vienna
05-24-11, 06:43 PM
So, the preacher made an error in his calculations; so what? It's not like it's the end of the world or something...

frau kaleun
05-24-11, 07:13 PM
http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/epic-win-photos-costume-and-sign-win.jpg

Sailor Steve
05-24-11, 11:45 PM
I've been raptured.




Twice.




Oh wait...I thought you said ruptured.




Never mind. :oops:

August
05-25-11, 11:22 AM
I've been raptured.
Twice.
Oh wait...I thought you said ruptured.


That what you get for wearing Born Again Boxers...

vienna
05-25-11, 04:20 PM
I thimk I'm going to fall back on my old response to this question:

"Have you been born again?"

"No, I got it quite right the first time."