Whats the solution to a crew that...

[Boats]

won't man their watch stations when surfacing. I did a search but the number of threads...
Anyway, should I be standing in a certain location in the boat when I order surface? Or ?
I noticed that the only thing that brings them topside when they decide to stay below is to save and exit the game. Then when I restart they're where they should be. Anyone have this problem?

[THE_MASK]

Reading past threads , i am sure its because you dont have enough of something . Ram or what , i dunno .

[Rubini]

Sorry to revamp an old thread. I spent an hour searching the forum about the exactly above problem and didn´t find any clue or fix.

I have a new installation with more or less the sobers mods list. All then last version. But sometimes when I surface, the crew don´t moves to the deck. Even in calm wheater - clear, nofog, 5m/s. Using last TDW UI.
The unique solution until now is to save/reload the game.

This is really odd and annoy my game play.

Any idea?:hmmm:

[gambla]

I got that problem too, but only sometimes. Afaik you need to restart the game, no other solution yet.

[misha1967]

I've had it happen to me once too. As has been mentioned, saving and then reloading fixes it. What causes it, however, I don't know.

[uekel]

It´s one of the stock-game bugs. CO2 not refresh too, and you cannot load external torpedos. Only helps save and reload. Especially annoying, in conjunction when you have damaged some ships. They´re fresh after reload. :damn:

[Rubini]

It´s one of the stock-game bugs. CO2 not refresh too, and you cannot load external torpedos. Only helps save and reload. Especially annoying, in conjunction when you have damaged some ships. They´re fresh after reload. :damn:
Exactly! Well, new here at SH5. So much things are fixed, some seems more complex than this one. This is a must need fix, it´s really so much frequent and can bring really odd&annoying problems like uekel described.
I yet don´t saw any other big problem with the (modded/fixed) UIs as this one.:hmmm:

[TheDarkWraith]

more than likely you have installed something that lowered (increased draught) of the sub. This will cause havoc and will cause the problem described. Remove the mod(s) that increase sub draught and see if the problem doesn't go away.

[Rubini]

Thanks for the tip TDW. I will look at it and will report back.
Have not yet the opportunity to say "thank you" for all your hard and excellent work on SH5, thanks very much, sir! :up:

[Rubini]

Ok. Have looked at my sub files and don´t found anything that mess with sub files unles TWD´s ones/KZS Hull wetness :

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\games\SH5\MODS_jsgme]

4Gb_patched&hydrofix
No magic skills v1.5 MCCD compatible
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces
MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps 1.0
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
Lite Campaign LC 1.2
Dynamic Environment Undersea (mediterranean) V2.1
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
Dynamic Environment SH5 Atlantic Floor V2.1
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
Window_Lights_Redone_V1
RemoveLogoIntroTheDarkWraith
Accurate German Flags
FX_Update_0_0_19_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_Das_Boot_Crew_Mod_by_Illyustrator
Manos Scopes-patch for 85x48_tdw
IRAI_0_0_30_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_30_No_hydrophone_on_surface
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
AilClouds 3.0

Have not changed anything on my own until now.:hmmm:

[TheDarkWraith]

I could be wrong but I thought dynamic environment changed the sub's .sim files to give it a more rolling motion. It changed many parameters for the sub like draught, drag, etc. I could be totally wrong but this is what I seem to remember :hmmm:

[Rubini]

I could be wrong but I thought dynamic environment changed the sub's .sim files to give it a more rolling motion. It changed many parameters for the sub like draught, drag, etc. I could be totally wrong but this is what I seem to remember :hmmm:
As you can see above in my list I don´t really use any env mod. I only use the high resolution underwater rocks/flora from Din.Env that don´t have any file that overwrite sub´s files. Anyhow don´t forget that it´s a intermitent problem, not all the time. I´m playing in the last two hours and the problem didn´t happened again.
I will maintain this thread alive as I found any news/clue on the matter.

[stoppro]

I have had that happen a few times. I teleport back to the attack scope and then again to the bridge. most of the time they return with me.

[0rpheus]

It's also worth noting that alt-tabbing in/out of game also causes problems for the watch crew - not going below when diving and not appearing when surfaced.

If you do alt-tab during SH5, don't - and you might see an improvement. :up:

[Dogfish40]

Ok. Have looked at my sub files and don´t found anything that mess with sub files unles TWD´s ones/KZS Hull wetness :

Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\games\SH5\MODS_jsgme]

4Gb_patched&hydrofix
No magic skills v1.5 MCCD compatible
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces
MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps 1.0
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
Lite Campaign LC 1.2
Dynamic Environment Undersea (mediterranean) V2.1
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
Dynamic Environment SH5 Atlantic Floor V2.1
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
No Damn Bubbles, No Damn Halo Mod
Window_Lights_Redone_V1
RemoveLogoIntroTheDarkWraith
Accurate German Flags
FX_Update_0_0_19_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_ByTheDarkWraith
NewUIs_TDC_6_9_0_Das_Boot_Crew_Mod_by_Illyustrator
Manos Scopes-patch for 85x48_tdw
IRAI_0_0_30_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_30_No_hydrophone_on_surface
Trevally Automated Scripts v0.6
KZS Hull wetness for U-Boats + co tower and deck_revised_by_TheDarkWraith
AilClouds 3.0

Have not changed anything on my own until now.:hmmm:

Did you say that your using Sober's list? I think your problem may be solved by merely rearranging your mod soup. Try putting your Mighty fine crew mods after the enviornment mods. The animation might be having problems following the env mods.
Anyway, I have the mighty fine crew right after all of the env mods and almost never have any animation problems. The one problem I do have is documented and the crew doesn't come off the bridge after ordering a dive, then I just pess dive (or periscope depth) again twice in a row and they come in and the ship dives.
Anyway, I hope rearranging them will help.
Good Hunting Herr Kaleun!

[Captain_AJ]

Reading all of these post . I can see that these problems happen occasiionally at least for me .. The problem described about your crew not being topside after surfacing has happend a few times for me .. when this did happen . I was in rough seas , and it was like a mutiny .. Crew topside is more like eye candy , The only important person is the xo as a watch officer .. who cant point out visual contacts and get the crew to man the flak/deck gun , MCCD enabled he has more authorty when you are on the bridge to order the crew your needs of the - Uboat .. I have often and continull y saved my game after the automatic feature saves the game ,

A few things that bother me in :"saved games " is .. The fact in my last sortie I iam compltelty out of torpedoes . I had just hit a hog island frieghter and caught him in his bow area . when you leave the game he is on fire , Being saved , But when you return the fire is out and he steaming away on his , seemingly un damged .. Unlike sh4 if you save the game you will return o th ework you have done .. is this a bug of sorts .. and a final question is ! when you disable mods in sh5 , what happens to all the disabled files . do they stay in the folders ? I noticed when you disable mods in Sh4 .. your recycle bins is full of disabled mods folders . I wonder if loeft over mods in sh5 , Can they cause CTD ' s If the ctach is not cleared ?

[Rubini]

After reinstall my mods (not the game) i haven´t not more this problem. Even the deep under keel problem is gone.
My thoughts:
1. Sh5 is really sensible in the UI/teleportation
2. The deep under keel solution is this: when reload or start a mission don´t ask deep under keel too early, wait a minute in game (probably some automation routine needs to finish) and then you will have not problems.
3. The problem of the crew not returning to the deck is about mod mess (draught modifications like TDW suggested?) and perhaps also some teleportation call that don´t like so much key hits.
4. but, the best news is that this isn´t a real problem, you will learn how to avoid them.

[tat501]

Im having the same problem. After starting a new mission after finishing coastal waters (in OHII v1.7) I find there is no crew on the bridge and the watch crew are stood around downstairs with thier arms out like loonies...

If I click on D. Epp to ask him to man the flak guns I get a CTD.

Normal fixing behaviour like diving or going to periscope depth then surfacing has not worked either! I started from the autosave entering port aswell but that didnt fix it. I have a feeling that when I went into port I had a problem with my mod soup with Mighty Fine Crew mod being overridden by something (should'nt be DBSM music or speech I don't think but thats what JSGME said) but as I can't find a fix yet it may have to be a new career. Here's a screenshot of what the crew are doing when they're not obeying orders to go topside...
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q580/thealb100/2012-04-14_00003.jpg

[tat501]

Just a note on this - playing around with my mod order fixed this. I put mightyfine crew mod first. If anyone else is having a similar problem try that!

[Harmsway!]

Im having the same problem. After starting a new mission after finishing coastal waters (in OHII v1.7) I find there is no crew on the bridge and the watch crew are stood around downstairs with thier arms out like loonies...

........I have a feeling that when I went into port I had a problem

After getting a whiff of there breath chief ask them to walk a straight line. They can't do it. No sense in having them on watch. Next time you are in port don't let them two off by themselves.:woot: