View Full Version : For Obama, Big Rise in Poll Numbers After Bin Laden Raid
Support for President Obama has risen sharply following the killing of Osama bin Laden by American military forces in Pakistan, with a majority now approving of his overall job performance, as well as his handling of foreign policy, the war in Afghanistan and the threat of terrorism, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
The glow of national pride seemed to rise above partisan politics, as support for the president rose significantly among both Republicans and independents. In all, 57 percent said they now approved of the president’s job performance, up from 46 percent last month.
But euphoria was tempered by a sense of foreboding: more than six in 10 Americans said that killing Bin Laden was likely to increase the threat of terrorism against the United States in the short term. A large majority also said that the Qaeda leader’s death did not make them feel any safer. Just 16 percent said they personally felt more safe now.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/us/politics/05poll.html?_r=1&hp
Note: Published: May 4, 2011
Platapus
05-04-11, 05:29 PM
They will change. Elections are a long time away.
Remember Americans have a very short memory about such things. :)
Yes it is ... no direct news, would like to say that many countries' citizens have that, :03:
Ducimus
05-04-11, 05:36 PM
I was wondering when this topic would broach. A couple days longer then i expected. Should i get the popcorn ready?
I'd expect a huge bounce, actually, he is POTUS and they got Bin Laden. Huge.
That said, for his opponents, they have to be heartened by the way they are wrecking the narrative daily.
From a purely political standpoint, he'd have done better to announce it with less fanfare and backstory (I thought his speech was pretty lousy), and more matter of fact info—"We found him, we planned an attack, executed the attack, and the Seals took out the trash. Next in AQ line, is next in line for the same treatment." Then release photos. Have made sure that everyone speaking is on the same page as to what went down, etc.
This is looking like a badly planned media event, and might hurt the longevity of his bounce IMO. Good on him for OKing it, but yeesh, manage the thing better.
why not, popcorn has many uses :cool:
I remember George Bush (Sr.) poll numbers were in the 90's after the first Gulf War. He still lost to a political nobody, Bill Clinton in the next election. Poll numbers really don't mean much.
Armistead
05-04-11, 06:45 PM
He'll win next time regardless, the GOP has nothing to put up against him.
GOP can kiss that elderly base goodbye
Ducimus
05-04-11, 06:49 PM
He'll win next time regardless, the GOP has nothing to put up against him.
Which is a sad statement in and of itself.
the_tyrant
05-04-11, 06:49 PM
hmm, killing Osama just when the national debt crisis has reached it's breaking point
ahh, lets not go into conspiracy theories
MaddogK
05-04-11, 07:23 PM
I'd expect a huge bounce, actually, he is POTUS and they got Bin Laden. Huge.
That said, for his opponents, they have to be heartened by the way they are wrecking the narrative daily.
From a purely political standpoint, he'd have done better to announce it with less fanfare and backstory (I thought his speech was pretty lousy), and more matter of fact info—"We found him, we planned an attack, executed the attack, and the Seals took out the trash. Next in AQ line, is next in line for the same treatment." Then release photos. Have made sure that everyone speaking is on the same page as to what went down, etc.
This is looking like a badly planned media event, and might hurt the longevity of his bounce IMO. Good on him for OKing it, but yeesh, manage the thing better.
Sorry Tater, word is he didn't directly OK it, he was merely a spectator like the rest of us.
...but if it makes you feel better to believe so :up:
Onkel Neal
05-04-11, 07:35 PM
I remember George Bush (Sr.) poll numbers were in the 90's after the first Gulf War. He still lost to a political nobody, Bill Clinton in the next election. Poll numbers really don't mean much.
He lost due to about 20% of his voters cast for Ross Perot.
Sorry Tater, word is he didn't directly OK it, he was merely a spectator like the rest of us.
Word is...wrong.
reignofdeath
05-04-11, 07:48 PM
Sorry Tater, word is he didn't directly OK it, he was merely a spectator like the rest of us.
...but if it makes you feel better to believe so :up:
Gaurantee you he directly OK'd it, he is Commander in Chief and all, meaning he runs the whole military :shifty:
MaddogK
05-04-11, 07:51 PM
http://socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/
Armistead
05-04-11, 08:09 PM
Sorry Tater, word is he didn't directly OK it, he was merely a spectator like the rest of us.
...but if it makes you feel better to believe so :up:
That is almost laughable, to think Obama didn't approve it, let's be real.
Doubt it would even be legal to go into another country without the Pres approval.
Armistead
05-04-11, 08:18 PM
Which is a sad statement in and of itself.
We'll, he certainly isn't my first choice. I could vote GOP if I saw one possible, a moderate conservative for america, not corporations,. Fact is the GOP has become a corporate sell out and that's done nothing to create a trickle down effect.
He did try to push what he got elected for, the economic meltdown stopped much of that. The big mistake was letting the radical left run the
show, Nancy and Reid, he seemed absent.
Had the Dems kept congress, I could see him possibly losing. With the GOP in, the same crap, they'll take much of the blame now. With all the medicare cuts being proposed by the GOP, kiss the elderly vote goodbye, doesn't matter what effects them, say medicare, lose the vote. Obama is going center now just like Clinton, perfect move. Add to that a billion dollar warchest and possibly the best spokesman ever....I think he's virtually unbeatable.
The GOP will end up running some far right tea party member, they'll get the religious right, that's about it.
krashkart
05-04-11, 09:40 PM
That is almost laughable, to think Obama didn't approve it, let's be real.
Doubt it would even be legal to go into another country without the Pres approval.
Presidential approval had been there for some time, if the article posted in #14 is to be believed. According to that article, the green light came on and only a small handful of people knew about it. The President was kept out of the loop until after the action had started.
* And if it's true, I hope he has some choice words for his staff...
Presidential approval had been there for some time, if the article posted in #14 is to be believed. According to that article, the green light came on and only a small handful of people knew about it. The President was kept out of the loop until after the action had started.
* And if it's true, I hope he has some choice words for his staff... Right!
AVGWarhawk
05-05-11, 07:58 AM
Presidential approval had been there for some time, if the article posted in #14 is to be believed. According to that article, the green light came on and only a small handful of people knew about it. The President was kept out of the loop until after the action had started.
* And if it's true, I hope he has some choice words for his staff...
Hope. Change. :DL
That is almost laughable, to think Obama didn't approve it, let's be real.
Doubt it would even be legal to go into another country without the Pres approval.
A Pres. can "approve" of operations in another country, and still not know the details/ specifics. This could be either normal delegation of authority or a cynical game of plausible deniability (in case something goes wrong). Does the pres get briefed on every drone strike? I don't see any reason why he would, he gives the Sec. of Defense his orders and it goes from there. Remember the Bay of Pigs? Certainly, JFK "approved" it, but didn't understand it's scope. Was it legal? Unless the courts render an unfavorable judgement, it is "legal", I guess.
krashkart
05-06-11, 09:53 AM
Hope. Change. :DL
Heehee! Good one. :DL
AVGWarhawk
05-06-11, 10:00 AM
Remember Americans have a very short memory about such things.
Who is Obama? :hmmm:
UnderseaLcpl
05-06-11, 10:43 AM
He'll win next time regardless, the GOP has nothing to put up against him.
Hit the nail on the head there, Armistead. The GOP has a golden opportunity to absolutely slay Obama in 2012 with the backing of the Tea-Party Republicans, but they have yet to put a candidate who is worth anything forward. I honestly cannot understand what they are thinking by backing Palin and McMahon and what have you. Every Tea-Party candidate they have has long since been invalidated by very valid arguments from the left, and the rest are Republicans or RINOs (Republicans In Name Only).
Either they are complete idiots or lack a suitable candidate or they are holding one in reserve to spring upon the 2012 elections before the left and the media have time to attack them properly. If they had such a plan, it would be a brilliant political move.
Sadly, I don't think they have such a move in mind. The Republicans do not have a united front at the party level. Powerful as it is, the Tea-Party is struggling against a very entrenched system of government. Many reps and senators in the GOP who hold places of power see the tea-party as foolish upstarts, and in their arrogant vanity they are trying to hold on to their power by using the tried-and-true method of pitting classic GOP values against the Dems and simply attacking the Democratic platform. They're just people trying to hold onto their jobs, much like the rest of us, and therefore I don't see them exploiting the Tea-Party Republicans beyond what they perceive to be an immediate gain, which is a mistake. They have also misinterpreted the tea-party as being pro-republican rather than simply anti-democratic. More the fools, they. Tea-partiers are anti-establishment.
The fact of the matter is that the basis of the Republican demographic is shifting. If the GOP refuses to acknowledge this, they are going to lose or divide the tea-party vote, which spells disaster for them in the presidential election. I can't imagine that they would be so stupid as to not realize this, but then again these are politicians we're talking about, and GOP politicians have repeatedly proven to be incompetent when it comes to popular opinion, hence the success of the populist Democratic platform.
As far as 2012 goes, it remains to be seen whether the Republicans will galvanize the Tea-Party vote or disenfranchise it by practicing politics as usual.
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