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The leaders of Fatah and Hamas, the main Palestinian factions, have signed a deal in Cairo aimed at ending their four-year rift.
Mahmoud Abbas said Palestinians had decided to "turn the dark page of division for ever".
Mr Abbas and Hamas's Khaled Meshaal had not met since the expulsion of Fatah from Gaza in 2007 following the shock Hamas election victory a year earlier.
The recent Arab uprisings have given fresh momentum to reconciliation.
The agreement paves the way for a joint interim government ahead of national elections next year.
The Fatah-led Palestinian Authority runs parts of the West Bank, while Hamas governs Gaza.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13277734
Note: 4 May 2011 Last updated at 12:48 GMT
Rockstar
05-04-11, 08:36 AM
Gee, I wonder what it was they found both had in common to rally around?
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Historically, they usually do not like these agreements hold ... so hope is ... .. Put the odds :hmm2:
Tribesman
05-04-11, 10:28 AM
It was bound to happen, Fatah have been thoroughly stuffed and with the ongoing revelations would have been pretty well trashed in the next elections.
Its a crazy situation where Fatah have had to stand with Hamas in order to have any chance of standing against them.
It was bound to happen, Fatah have been thoroughly stuffed and with the ongoing revelations would have been pretty well trashed in the next elections.
Its a crazy situation where Fatah have had to stand with Hamas in order to have any chance of standing against them. Exactly where have I heard it before
It was bound to happen, Fatah have been thoroughly stuffed and with the ongoing revelations would have been pretty well trashed in the next elections.
Its a crazy situation where Fatah have had to stand with Hamas in order to have any chance of standing against them.
Errr....what?
Good, can we stop giving the PA any support until they divorce themselves from an organization the US government rightly defines as a terrorist organization?
It's as if AQ controlled a region, and we elected to look the other way. We took out the Taliban because they were in bed with AQ, and we give support to a government with a large component of another terrorist organization.
Tribesman
05-04-11, 10:52 AM
Tater, your government helped push the move forward.
Them sneaky bastids were very shrewd in using US language in the recent proposal which then showed the US publicly rejecting its own stated policy.
Tater, your government helped push the move forward.
Them sneaky bastids were very shrewd in using US language in the recent proposal which then showed the US publicly rejecting its own stated policy.
He he....and i thought that its Hamas ass on fire.
Rockstar
05-04-11, 11:02 AM
Historically, they usually do not like these agreements hold ... so hope is ... .. Put the odds :hmm2:
Like cease fire agreements?
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Tribesman
05-04-11, 11:04 AM
He he....and i thought that its Hamas ass on fire.
You really should get your head out of the sand MH.
Time and again you are simply supporting Hamas purely because you won't think at all.
You really should get your head out of the sand MH.
Time and again you are simply supporting Hamas purely because you won't think at all.
OK i will....
Like cease fire agreements?
. Yeah, something like that...
My current government seems to think that it's OK to chat with terrorists. They are talking to the Taliban, too. Both groups need killin', not talkin' (cause that's what we should do with religious terrorists*).
*I intentionally add "religious" because a religious motivation makes changing minds virtually impossible. They believe without proof by definition. Rationality therefore is pointless.
Tribesman
05-04-11, 11:47 AM
My current government seems to think that it's OK to chat with terrorists.
All governments do, its just that some governments say they don't and some people really believe their governments when they say it.
Are you one of those people who believe it tater?
All governments do, its just that some governments say they don't and some people really believe their governments when they say it.
Are you one of those people who believe it tater?
Nah, I think they should stop lying and simply kill them.
That said, there is a diplomatic difference between talking on the sly, and doing so openly. The latter raises the organization in question, and hence sends a different message.
Such conversations should not be held "in the open" as it gives the terrorists a standing they do not deserve. Diplomacy is all about such subtlety of detail (even if galling to people in "plain english.")
All governments do, its just that some governments say they don't and some people really believe their governments when they say it.
Are you one of those people who believe it tater?
You start to show paterns....
Reptiles in Washington err... Jerusalem.
OK...lets say Tel Aviv for PC.
Lets say there is an case to support terrorism in short run.
You can use certain event for political gains.
There is no reason to do it in long perspective unless you have some evil scheme to take over the world.
So if Benjamin Netaniahu jumps on event and says "I told you so" its partly political move but it doesn't mean that he is supporting terror.
When BB is right or somthing fits his scheme it doesn't automatically make it some Israeli evil plan.
Palestinians have long tradition of shooting in their own legs.
Abu Mazen just could keep on doing what he did till now it worked for him very well...he chose differently-Israelis brain washed him and supported hammas.
Rockstar
05-04-11, 04:01 PM
Antisemitic Cartoon In Bahraini Paper: Fatah-Hamas Reconciliation Squeezes Jews
http://www.thememriblog.org/image/21147.JPG
Source: Al-Ayyam, Bahrain, May 3, 2011
the rally cry
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Antisemitic Cartoon In Bahraini Paper: Fatah-Hamas Reconciliation Squeezes Jews
http://www.thememriblog.org/image/21147.JPG
Source: Al-Ayyam, Bahrain, May 3, 2011
the rally cry
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Thats how they express themselves in Arab world every day.
Old story.
So that peace doesn't happen by mistake.
That way there is always someone to blame for their misery and high prices of humus/chees.
Thats how they express themselves in Arab world every day.
Old story.
So that peace doesn't happen by mistake.
That way there is always someone to blame for their misery and high prices of humus/chees. Certainly, it has been around for a while but still up-to-date
Tribesman
05-04-11, 05:54 PM
3rd strike.
Am I correct in thinking you have today found yourself a new website to visit Rockstar?
3rd strike.
Am I correct in thinking you have today found yourself a new website to visit Rockstar? No, no, I do not copy others' needs ... perhaps one could call it a coincidence, but I do not know exact what is his experience is based on, but I personally prefer to be present, it must be relevant conversation, and please if you been in the country in question, it is even better
Tribesman
05-04-11, 06:10 PM
perhaps one could call it a coincidence
Perhaps, but it is strange that suddenly Rockstar just today starts posting 3 items from the same news gathering source.
I was just wondering if the MEMRI service was something new to him?
Perhaps, but it is strange that suddenly Rockstar just today starts posting 3 items from the same news gathering source.
I was just wondering if the MEMRI service was something new to him? Perhaps it may be that he thinks of various so-called clusters, I still handled think their articles are not always right angle, and does not reflect reality always, but an institution pleases himself
PARIS — A day after the main Palestinian factions signed a unity agreement in Cairo, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton strikingly refused on Thursday to rule out further negotiations with a Palestinian side that included Hamas, the militant Islamic group that runs Gaza and is defined by many in the West as a terrorist organization. But she reiterated the Obama administration’s call for Hamas to accept basic conditions that included renouncing violence and recognizing Israel’s right to exist.
Mrs. Clinton spoke in Rome before a meeting on Libya as the leading protagonists in the Middle East conflict set out elsewhere to pursue their rival campaigns for sympathy and support on a larger stage, seeking European backing for their conflicting visions of peace and Palestinian statehood.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/world/middleeast/06mideast.html?hp
Note: Update record, May 5, 2011
Tribesman
05-05-11, 10:31 AM
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton strikingly refused on Thursday to rule out further negotiations with a Palestinian side that included Hamas
That is because they will have no choice. 4 of the 5 have said they are ready to give recognition, America could choose to stick it out alone but would weaken its position even more than it was weakened with the last vote.
The US has backed itself into a corner
which is not the first time that the U.S, with an open fly
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