no aircrafts?

[pickler]

i used to pay silent hunter 3 all the time few years back and now that i have started playing again i noticed that the game is way too easy. I have pretty hard difficulty settings, i think 74% or smt but i still can rack up tonnage. im on patrol 13 and its july 1943. I have over 300,000 tons of sinking. the only thing i find hard is when im detected underwater, it is very difficult to escape enemy asdic. even at 280m they depth charge me. but back to my main point, there is simply no aircrafts. i have patrolled waters around Ireland, england and in the Mediterranean. where are the planes who gave the uboats such a hard time? i even travelled all the way to the indian ocean and spotted no aircraft and i sank a 40,000 tonner ocean liner with no retaliation. oh and im using GWX 3.0 gold with SH3 commander.

[Gargamel]

What year is it? Early war there are few aircraft as coastal command hadn't gotten it's act together yet. Late 44 and '45 I was very grateful I had a snorkel, as surfacing was a death wish, and even the snorkel was attracting the radar equipped planes.

[pickler]

hey thanks for the reply. i think i said it was july 1943? anyway i even tried a new campaign in 1944; i ran into a giant aircraft with all sorts of radar antennas and bombs near Loch Ew but that was it. certainly dont use any snorkels because it hinders my speed and range. There are however plenty of lone destroyers around which i pick off with the acoustic torpedo.

i am reinstalling SH3 now and im going to try the vanilla and see if there is better air traffic.

[Gerald]

:up:

[pickler]

thanks for the welcome i have been meaning to join this site for awhile but had very little time. I love this site!

also i think i said it was july 1943? anyway i even tried a new campaign in 1944; i ran into a giant aircraft with all sorts of radar antennas and bombs near Loch Ew but that was it. certainly dont use any snorkels because it hinders my speed and range. There are however plenty of lone destroyers around which i pick off with the acoustic torpedo.

i am reinstalling SH3 now and im going to try the vanilla and see if there is better air traffic.

[Gerald]

thanks for the welcome i have been meaning to join this site for awhile but had very little time. I love this site!

also i think i said it was july 1943? anyway i even tried a new campaign in 1944; i ran into a giant aircraft with all sorts of radar antennas and bombs near Loch Ew but that was it. certainly dont use any snorkels because it hinders my speed and range. There are however plenty of lone destroyers around which i pick off with the acoustic torpedo.

i am reinstalling SH3 now and im going to try the vanilla and see if there is better air traffic. Well,good luck,:yep:

[pickler]

Well,good luck,:yep:

hehe i seem to have fixed it, i just played my first patrol (1943) and my boat got destroyed by depth charges. On my first patrol heading north towards AM19 i got jumped by 2 destroyers and a carrier escort as soon as i turned on my radar (about 4 hours after). my watchmen did not see them and i think they detected me with radar. i heard no warnings from my radio man with RWR. anyway i dived and prepared to sink the escort but amazingly the escort carrier turned and separated away and the 2 destroyers headed towards my last known location. also about half a dozen aircrafts were circling and bombing above me. the rest is history.

I havent installed GWX yet and im afraid of doing this. the vanilla game is plain in terms of graphics and details but more realistic to me. is there a mod that will improve textures and graphics without touching the gameplay/traffic/scripts ?

[Kapt Z]

What time compression are you playing at?

It's been my understanding that the higher tc settings, as in above 256tc, screw with the spawn of aircraft.

Try transiting 'the Bay' on the surface at 128tc or less and see what happens.

In 1943 aircraft should be all over you.:hmmm:

[Gerald]

hehe i seem to have fixed it, i just played my first patrol (1943) and my boat got destroyed by depth charges. On my first patrol heading north towards AM19 i got jumped by 2 destroyers and a carrier escort as soon as i turned on my radar (about 4 hours after). my watchmen did not see them and i think they detected me with radar. i heard no warnings from my radio man with RWR. anyway i dived and prepared to sink the escort but amazingly the escort carrier turned and separated away and the 2 destroyers headed towards my last known location. also about half a dozen aircrafts were circling and bombing above me. the rest is history.

I havent installed GWX yet and im afraid of doing this. the vanilla game is plain in terms of graphics and details but more realistic to me. is there a mod that will improve textures and graphics without touching the gameplay/traffic/scripts ? GWX has what you need, so your experience units will be rich, be sure of that,and it comes with Mods then there is more to download if you want and if your system can handle graphics-intensive Mods,link for GWX,

http://www.filefront.com/user/JimbunaGWX2/

[pickler]

What time compression are you playing at?

It's been my understanding that the higher tc settings, as in above 256tc, screw with the spawn of aircraft.

Try transiting 'the Bay' on the surface at 128tc or less and see what happens.

In 1943 aircraft should be all over you.:hmmm:

ahh kapt z you make a really good point, as it happens i run at 4000x compression lol. so you think that has screwed up my game?

[Osmium Steele]

During the Battle of Britain, I was sitting east of Lowestoft, sinking any merchant tonnage which happened by.

First, I avoided a couple of Spitfires. They didn't see me.

Next I sank a schooner just for sounding like a bigger target on my sonar. Imagine my surprise when 2 JU-88s approach, circle the wreck and fly back to France. Did I steal their kill?

A few days later I'm charging my batteries, and a plane is spotted. It is a Stuka. I watch it through the binoculars and it makes an attack run on ME! Evidently, it was just practice since no bombs were dropped. His wingman didn't even bother with us.

Later that day nine, or thereabouts, He-111s approach and circle the burning wreck of a medium cargo ship, as I sailed back to my lair. Again, did I steal their kill? I certainly hope so.

[Gerald]

ahh kapt z you make a really good point, as it happens i run at 4000x compression lol. so you think that has screwed up my game? I bet that, :O:

[pickler]

I bet that, :O:

hopefully...

i will give this a try, installing GWX3 now. i remember back then when i was addicted to GWX a Romanian bomber destroyed a russian light cruiser just before i torpedoed it in the black sea. since then i decided to shoot romanian aircrafts on sight :D

[Gerald]

hopefully...

i will give this a try, installing GWX3 now. i remember back then when i was addicted to GWX a Romanian bomber destroyed a russian light cruiser just before i torpedoed it in the black sea. since then i decided to shoot romanian aircrafts on sight :D But do not forget to clean the registry first, then clean up, delete the SH3 folder from my documents, SH3, and use the disc at the uninstalled

[pickler]

But do not forget to clean the registry first, then clean up, delete the SH3 folder from my documents, SH3, and use the disc at the uninstalled

its all good now, the gameplay is back to impossible. got destroyed by two fast mosquitos just outside brest. i tried to take them on because they were so close i had no time to dive. they strafed everyone on the tower and one of there bombs hit my deck. my god they are so fast. wish i could capture video but fraps is not compatible with the resolution fix.

[Gerald]

its all good now, the gameplay is back to impossible. got destroyed by two fast mosquitos just outside brest. i tried to take them on because they were so close i had no time to dive. they strafed everyone on the tower and one of there bombs hit my deck. my god they are so fast. wish i could capture video but fraps is not compatible with the resolution fix. What's the realism of when you play, :hmmm:

[Kapt Z]

ahh kapt z you make a really good point, as it happens i run at 4000x compression lol. so you think that has screwed up my game?

4000tc!!?

Holy Hell boy!

Slow down smell the diesel fumes....:haha:

[pickler]

haha yea 4000x i didnt know it harms my game. im doing 128-256 now.

realism used to be 84% now I toned it down to 65%. I like it difficult, I get bored fast if I sink lots of ships. I just restarted the campaign and managed to get out of biscay unharmed but I had to crash dive many times and I took out a b24. waiting for a escort carrier to home in on my radar so i can get my revenge.

[Gerald]

haha yea 4000x i didnt know it harms my game. im doing 128-256 now.

realism used to be 84% now I toned it down to 65%. I like it difficult, I get bored fast if I sink lots of ships. I just restarted the campaign and managed to get out of biscay unharmed but I had to crash dive many times and I took out a b24. waiting for a escort carrier to home in on my radar so i can get my revenge. It sounds good, but use low-TC or real time which is best, :yep:

[Fish In The Water]

its all good now, the gameplay is back to impossible. got destroyed by two fast mosquitos just outside brest.

Wow, not to often you come across someone who's happy about being destroyed. I think I'll take a screen shot! :03:

[jangles]

I was playing at 1k/2k until I recenty read a thread on here talking about how 128 should be the max , otherwise you will miss out on contacts/aircraft etc

the moment I started at 128 , approaching the english channel from the east , I see a formation of He-111's flying over....what a sight !

halfway thru the channel I was divebombed twice by an Anson , he flew off without even scratching my paintwork

Ive seen lots of aircraft since then too...the game is much more enjoyable a this speed I think

[Gerald]

I was playing at 1k/2k until I recenty read a thread on here talking about how 128 should be the max , otherwise you will miss out on contacts/aircraft etc

the moment I started at 128 , approaching the english channel from the east , I see a formation of He-111's flying over....what a sight !

halfway thru the channel I was divebombed twice by an Anson , he flew off without even scratching my paintwork

Ive seen lots of aircraft since then too...the game is much more enjoyable a this speed I think Lower TC is the best, or nothing at all like I mentioned earlier, :yep:

[Fish In The Water]

the moment I started at 128 , approaching the english channel from the east , I see a formation of He-111's flying over....what a sight!

Would have been a shame to miss that. Glad you're finding it more fun! :woot:

[bojan811]

I did not know that tc can affect game this much. From now on only small or none tc for me.
Thanks guys for the refreshing info...
Yours truly b811:salute:

[Osmium Steele]

Wait until he learns that it is possible for the player to hear contacts on the hydrophone almost twice as far as the AI sonarman. That slowed down my play a huge amount.

Dive
All stop
Scan 360 degrees
Ahead standard
Surface the ship
Cruise 1 - 2 hours at 32 - 64 TC

repeat

In aircraft prone areas the TC is 8 - 16

It sometimes takes me 2 -3 gaming sessions to even get to my patrol area. :88)

[Fish In The Water]

Wait until he learns that it is possible for the player to hear contacts on the hydrophone almost twice as far as the AI sonarman.

There is a 'no deaf sonarman' fix available for GWX. It adjusts the values in the Sensor.dat file and purports to improve the detection range considerably. :sunny:

[Wreford-Brown]

There is a 'no deaf sonarman' fix available for GWX. It adjusts the values in the Sensor.dat file and purports to improve the detection range considerably. :sunny:

Any chance of a link?

[Osmium Steele]

DOH! Thanks! :yeah:

Edit: couldn't find any definitive mod out there. Still checking for mods to sensor.dat...

[Fish In The Water]

Any chance of a link?

Happy to oblige:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=107989

The 'fix' claims to increase the crew detection range to 25km (as taking it to a full 30 evidently breaks the "follow nearest contact" order).

I think the DL link is dead, but if anyone is interested they can get it here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WNXCMMW9

Hope it helps! :sunny:

Edit: Just looking through the mod, there is a Sensors.dat (in the optional folder) that takes the crew to the same hardcoded limit as the player - 30 km each. Worth testing, have fun!

[Wreford-Brown]

Happy to oblige:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WNXCMMW9


Thank you. :up:

[Osmium Steele]

Thanks for the link Fish. Not sure I want to go back to 8km, and the links for Alert Sonarman 16km are dead.

I guess it is time to download TT tweaks and mod my own sensors.dat. Rubini stated that it was just a couple of tweaks in the hydrophone section and was identical to the 8km version.

If I compare his modded sensor.dat with mine, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out what changes are required.

Unless someone has still has a 4 year old mod zipped on their hard drive they'd be willing to email... :haha:

[Fish In The Water]

Thank you. :up:

Thanks for the link Fish.

You're both very welcome!

Not sure I want to go back to 8km, and the links for Alert Sonarman 16km are dead.

Unless someone has still has a 4 year old mod zipped on their hard drive they'd be willing to email... :haha:

No email, but here's the 16k version:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KGHJVSVR

Hope it works and have fun! :sunny:

[pickler]

no fix for tc and aircrafts? I was doing 128x from Bergen and I didnt run into an aircraft until Torshavn and also there are no aircrafts at nite.

[bojan811]

Last night i started patrol in the north sea near scapa flow in jan `40 and i had at least 5-6 crash dives because of the RAF.

My tc was something between 128-256...every 1-2 hours new planes came to attack my sub.

Am afraid to think what will happen late in war if I make it until then.

[pickler]

Last night i started patrol in the north sea near scapa flow in jan `40 and i had at least 5-6 crash dives because of the RAF.

My tc was something between 128-256...every 1-2 hours new planes came to attack my sub.

Am afraid to think what will happen late in war if I make it until then.

were these attacks during the day? any night air attacks? I'm at rockall banks and about to finish patrol. did not sight a single aircraft. march 15, 1944

[bojan811]

were these attacks during the day? any night air attacks? I'm at rockall banks and about to finish patrol. did not sight a single aircraft. march 15, 1944

All day attacks...there is no radar yet on aircrafts so no attack from sky at night.

[pickler]

All day attacks...there is no radar yet on aircrafts so no attack from sky at night.

ok thanks i seem to have finally fixed the problem by launching the game using sh3 commander. at 256x or slower i get lots of aircraft activity. even when submerged at snorkel depth i was bombed a couple times without warning. i also experienced night attacks. basically every convoy i face in atlantic now is escorted by aircraft who quickly sight my periscope. very realistic now.

[Daniel Prates]

ok thanks i seem to have finally fixed the problem by launching the game using sh3 commander. at 256x or slower i get lots of aircraft activity. even when submerged at snorkel depth i was bombed a couple times without warning. i also experienced night attacks. basically every convoy i face in atlantic now is escorted by aircraft who quickly sight my periscope. very realistic now.

If close enough, an airplane can see you even if you are submerged. Calm seas such as you get in the pacific and mediterranean and clear water are as transparent as glass. A lucky plane flying above you or close to that can an will see you, even without the periscope up. A supermod to 'sh4' added that to the game, forcing you to dive to 30 or 40 meters to avoid detecton. To be fair, i do not know sh3 enough to say that the game computes that, but it is the case.

Check this photo:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_kIWY2DV0KnE/Srr4dh8U42I/AAAAAAAAEdA/EFE66BpmqLs/Visual%20Stealth%20-%20USS%20Chicago%20(SSN-721)%20showing%20visibility%20when%20submerged.JPG

[bojan811]

When we are talking about the bombing by the planes how deep must you dive to be safe from impact.
The planes in sh3 do not drop the depth charges only bombs right (talking about bomber planes)?

In what range are they effective against your sub?