Silent Hunter 6

[indy]

Hello Guys,
I heard a rumor that the next Silent Hunter 6 will be a cold war sim starting in the 1960s to 1980s, has anybody got any info on this?
Thanks Indy

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm not sure from where and whom you heard this rumor, but everything from Ubi, the dev team and the community forums manager indicates that there will likely be no further titles in this series.

[oscar19681]

I never heard such rumors either

[Sailor Steve]

I never heard such rumors either
No, but there has been a lot of speculation and wishful thinking. That's probably what he heard.

[elanaiba]

You can be happy that the same kind of speculation happened in the office also, a long time ago.

[Sonarman]

Sorry, no SH6. How about this as a consolation prize ( from a post by Gatorman82 on the simhq naval forum)...


"Nice to hear people are still playing TF1942. I was co-designer and lead programmer on the project. I've been working at home on a new game that combines 1942: the Pacific Air War and Taskforce: 1942. I wrote both games and have wanted to re-do them both. The engine is mostly written at this point, but the problem is art. I have talked a couple of artists into helping me out, but they lack my enthusiasm to work in my spare time. So although I still work on it, the project will never really go anywhere until I get more art support. Sims aren't seen as big money makers, so I won't get any monetary support unless I've got something pretty much done....

Ed Fletcher
Formerly of MicroProse Software"

[JU_88]

Its pretty safe to say that we have reached the end of the road for the Silent Hunter series.
To be honest its a miracle that we got anything Post SH2 (if you look at the way the games industry has gone over the past decade.)
These days Sims dont make much in the way of profit, they tend to break even at best.
If you ask me the PC games market in general is pretty much a sinking ship.

[Torplexed]

If you ask me the PC games market in general is pretty much a sinking ship.

The Golden Era of PC games was the 1990s. With a few exceptions here and there it's been downhill ever since.

[mookiemookie]

If you ask me the PC games market in general is pretty much a sinking ship.

How many years have people been saying this? :ping: :03: Guild Wars 2, Shogun: TW, Mount and Blade With Fire ans Steel, Witcher 2, Heroes of Might and Magic 4, Sims Medieval, MS Flight, Red Orchestra Heroes of Stalingrad, Diablo 3, Minecraft...

I'd say PC gaming is as healthy as it's ever been.

[Sailor Steve]

You can be happy that the same kind of speculation happened in the office also, a long time ago.
Really? That's interesting.

[urfisch]

How many years have people been saying this? :ping: :03: Guild Wars 2, Shogun: TW, Mount and Blade With Fire ans Steel, Witcher 2, Heroes of Might and Magic 4, Sims Medieval, MS Flight, Red Orchestra Heroes of Stalingrad, Diablo 3, Minecraft...

I'd say PC gaming is as healthy as it's ever been.

pc games market might decrease, but its far away from dying!!! and i believe it will never die. read an interview with a console games developer and he said the pc platform is always the lead in games development. console games will keep to stay behind pc, cause the release of new consoles always takes years - new and better pc components are available every few month.

what might be far more dangerous to the pc gaming community than console games is the bad quality of unfinished pc-games beeing released, with a bad support afterwards. this process increased and became the major strategy of many publishers.

but i think this will also beeing corrected. bad quality never survives a long time, in particular in times of communication methods like the internet. so there will be new publishers and new studios, who release real quality games, like we had in the 80s and 90s. so, pc gaming will never die.

:|\\

[JU_88]

How many years have people been saying this? :ping: :03: Guild Wars 2, Shogun: TW, Mount and Blade With Fire ans Steel, Witcher 2, Heroes of Might and Magic 4, Sims Medieval, MS Flight, Red Orchestra Heroes of Stalingrad, Diablo 3, Minecraft...

I'd say PC gaming is as healthy as it's ever been.

Nah...

Most Major PC games now are multi format titles not made exclusivly for PC, but also for Xbox 360 and or PS (like the ones you mention above) this hase several side effects on PC gaming

First off it becomes harder to convince someone to spend $300 on a high end graphics card every 2-3 years, when the same amount will buy them a console that will last 5 years+

Secondly Publishers always want a game to appeal to the casual crowd since they make up the majority of gamers and as such have deeper pockets collectively speaking :) So the games tend to become easier and shorter.
Today, games marketing is all about the family crowding round the Tv with a console and 4 controllers. As a result, hardcore PC genres like Sims and RTS are not as popular and profitable as they once were.

And thats just the tip of the iceburg, aslo off the top of my head-

1) Piracy puts developers off while DRM puts consumers off.

2) Consoles have improved both technically and Logistically - the Visuals are now on par and Online gaming is no longer limited to the PC, something that was its major selling point back in the day.

3) Console games pretty much work right off the bat, no need to worry about hardware requirments, patches and driver updates etc. Plus I've yet to hear of an Xbox game that CTD's
It MUST be easier for Developers also, they only gotta worry about testing on one hardware configuration - rather than half a zillion possible combinations.

4) MS and Sony enforce somewhat tighter regulations on the Quality of software released on their systems. Every third party release has to be submitted to and then QA'd by them, so anything too buggy or unfinished gets sent back.
I dont think there are any such relgulation in the place for the PC since its a pretty open market.

5) lasty have you tried to sell any unwanted PC games latley? noticed how they seem to be near worthless in value, (even if they are less than one year old?)
Like wise you may have noticed that the PC games section in the high street retailer is either restricted to about 2 shelves or non-existant.
Down to Piracy maybe?
............

Im not pro-console (I dont even have one) I'm just saying that as a games platform the PC has lost its edge and now resides as the bottom of the ---- pile for the majority of publishers.

But hey ho, thats life ;)

[elanaiba]

I don't think PCs are dying, with Steam, digital downloading and the rise of free-to-play games, people are putting a lot of money into it. From both ends, that is - customer and publisher.

And you'll always have WOW and Starcraft 2 as examples of very successful, on the PC.

Regarding Cold War - yes, we had this idea floating for SH4 and 5. But its generally proposed by the guys that have no idea about a) SH b) submarines and c) Cold War.

[Dowly]

Nah, PC gaming's not dying (and like mookie said, the death of PC has been anticipated for a decade already).

Both Magicka and Minecraft really shot indie games to public knowledge and now you see them everywhere. You got sims like the Eagle Dynamics' DCS series, A-10C just came out and they are already planning/working on the 3rd DCS game. How about WWIIOL? Or Armed Assault? While not hardcore sims, certainly something unique for PC.

Then there's the games that are multiplatform, but their life is extended greatly by modding in the PC version (Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3 springs to mind first).

And lastly, strategy games. Combat Mission, Close Combat, Hearts of Iron, the ridiculously overpriced Matrix Games' "epic" war games.

PC has everything for everyone. Consoles don't. ;)

[JU_88]

Well I hope youre both right ^^ :)

[Arclight]

The market actually grew last year, like it does every year.

We're all doomed! Time is running out! What will stop the death of PC games? Perhaps continuing to get bigger each year, with a 20% annual rise in revenue in the already enormous market could help. Once again, our favourite format failed to meet the expectations of the publishing industry, and went and sold billions of dollars worth of games. What is it like, eh?

...

Of course, you have to assume a bit of guestimating to these figures, what with Valve still (madly) refusing to release Steam sale figures. With around 70% of the digital market, that's a hefty chunk to be guessing at. But there's little doubt the PC is thriving, against all the inane wittering of idiots.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/01/pc-is-strong-pc-games-revenue-up-20/

Like mentioned, it doesn't even include sales on Steam. And that's just 1 article. Dozens more like it that were published over the last years.

[mookiemookie]

Most Major PC games now are multi format titles not made exclusivly for PC, but also for Xbox 360 and or PS (like the ones you mention above)

Actually, I carefully chose my list. Those are all PC exclusives. :know:

[JU_88]

Well as a wittering idiot :D, Im quite happy to be proven wrong in this instance.
Seriously though, there is a stong perception that the PC as games platform has gone/ is going down the pan, but if in realitly it isnt, why do so many feel that it is? Perhaps its just nosalgia kicking in?
In my case maybe its just that most of my favorite PC game franchises have either gone sour or been killed of completely. :nope:

[Arclight]

Think it's really that: stuff like simulations and more "hardcore" titles being in decline. It's not strictly true, what with the stuff from Matrix and Paradox, and recently DCS and Rise of Flight, but in general the selection has decreased.

There was a thread recently that revealed Ubisoft's most selling titles, and it isn't something like Assassin's Creed, but the shovelware titles that most of us probably never even heard about (some Barbie game or some such). Not really something any of us would take note of.

The market is fine, plenty of money going around, so as a platform PC is doing rather well. But at the same time a lot of (mainstream) titles suffer from being cross-platform; say what you will, but you simply can't do on a console what a PC can do, simply because current consoles have no more than 512MB of RAM, compared to 2-4GB in the average PC.

So yeah, PC gaming is not dying, but it is (has been) definitely changing.

[Jaguar]

If, eventually, PC games do die we will not bother. Either because we will be very old to play anything but Tic Tac Toe or game platforms will be so good we will want to make the change.

[milky]

Is this the future??.........Date: December 2011.

‘Reality Gaming group' (formerly ubisoft ) are pleased to announce the forthcoming release of Silent Hunter 6: The Cold War will be released as planned on March 6th 2012
‘Reality Gaming Group’, who took over management of the Ubisoft company following it's demise following the DRM 'scandle' that blighted sales of major titles in 2010 and 2011, think that they have reached agreement with the original developers of the popular Silent Hunter series and intend to take it back to it's roots.

The original Silent Hunter Series, which was a 'simmers' paradise for PC gamers was thrown into disarray with the release of the fifth game in the series ‘Battle of the Atlantic’ , which saw a switch in the game aiming it more at casual and Console users. A version was even to be released for the mobile phone.

Tragedy struck when the PC gamers and hardcore simmers turned their backs on the products following its release with features that had been so stripped back that it had no feel and was basically built to be transported to the Consoles. The problem was further compounded when Ubisoft installed draconian DRM methods to prevent piracy which meant that to play the game the users had to be online at all times. The actual calculated numbers of pirated copies in use outnumbered genuine copies more than 2 to 1.

With Ubisoft losing it’s cash flow and unable to port the game to the consoles and the DRM forcing people away from Ubisoft games in general the past twelve months was only to be expected.
Reality are now confident that having got rid of those responsible for the Silent Hunter 5 and DRM fiasco, that the release of the new Silent Hunter Game will help to restore the fortunes of the company.

The Reality Gaming Group, formerly the people behind the *** ‘Supermod’ for SH3, believe that their return to the fundamentals of the Silent Hunter ‘Sim’ will draw back the hardened PC gamers who were the front runners in all marketable games in the 1990’s and early 21st Century. They are also aiming to get new users from the console market who seem to resent being treated as ‘cash-cows’ when offered the likes of ‘Need For Speed No 10’ and ‘The Sims No 37’ as the best games available.

The new Silent Hunter 6 ‘Sim’ will include all the ‘submarines’ from the early 1950’s through to the present day. There are 3 Campaign modes which will run through a scenario of a third World War and will take place over a 10 year period. The game is expected to be released on time with a new feature of an online mode, with servers able to handle a ‘global conflict’ with up to 28 players commanding state of the art Submarines with the most current technology, being available as a download in the not to distant future. Registration will require a once only internet connection for the Campaign mode and high speed internet for the Online Multiplayer mode.

The marketing Director ‘*******’, (his online gaming profile!!) said in a statement..’Give the simmers what they want and you WILL have them for life and we intend to bring them back and keep them and the amount of content the game holds will negate any fears of massive piracy.’ These are considered welcoming words indeed by the ‘Simmers’ themselves and with pre-orders exceeding any other game, current or in the last 10 years, the future does indeed look rosy for the ‘Reality Gaming Group’.

Maverick….The ‘Roving Reporter’.

SILENT HUNTER 6 IS CONFIRMED

[Arclight]

Could have been funny. This is just nonsense though: "[...] the game aiming it more at casual and Console users."

It's the same game under the hood, with the added bonus of it accepting scripts. Technically it is superior to SH3 and SH4, it was just never finished, resulting in a rather poor experience. It's come a long way, but it's nowhere near as matured as for example SH3.

[SalmonVGM]

yeah, in case people don't know or read this out of context. It's a joke:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121062387/m/6491044138

Pretty mean not to say so lol.

[Sailor Steve]

SILENT HUNTER 6 IS CONFIRMED
Really? Given the date on the 'article' is next December, I think there's some more wishful thinking going on. :sunny:

[UBOOT_fan]

Serious pc gamers won't ever fall for consoles...I know I won't. Frankly I hate them (the console it is) because they brought the pc gaming where it is today. In fact not them directly, but the kind of people who like and handle them. In my country there is a saying: "only stupid people who can't handle a pc go for a console" so in my country, with good reason, people who use consoles are saw beeing merely stupid. It's somehow a vicious circle here, prices rather high (when a game is out) make people go for piracy, piracy descurages pc games developers, and they go for consoles where people don't have much expectation, they just wanna play. Anything, no matter how bad or stupid or ugly it is. So as someone above pointed out, yes, the pc gaming is , slowly, a sinking ship...The good part in the process is that the water is not to ....deep so even sunked the ship will appear at the surface lol

[Pintea]

Both PC and console games will fall to cloud gaming services like OnLive or Gaikai. No more piracy for devs but no console sales either, I forsee a battle between console OEMs and cloud gaming providers :)

Even SH5 was supposed to also be able to run in a cloud gaming environment, don't know what happened to that though
...talk about death of modding...

[rosco34]

i hope play it quickly

[sidslotm]

Silent Hunter 6, oh yeah

[kapitan_zur_see]

Regarding Cold War - yes, we had this idea floating for SH4 and 5. But its generally proposed by the guys that have no idea about a) SH b) submarines and c) Cold War.

ahah :DL That's so true ;)

[BigBANGtheory]

Both PC and console games will fall to cloud gaming services like OnLive or Gaikai. No more piracy for devs but no console sales either, I forsee a battle between console OEMs and cloud gaming providers :)

Even SH5 was supposed to also be able to run in a cloud gaming environment, don't know what happened to that though
...talk about death of modding...

Maybe but the cost of running the cloud infrastructure is hardly an attractive option for publishers and developers. Lets face it there is no way they will recover the pirate->legit purchase gains with the revenue offset in the infrastructure costs.

I think what you will see is a growing divide between junk-food style games and more realistic simulations.

What would IMHO make a great deal of sense for this community is taking something like UDK or CryEngine3 and experimenting with subsim options. Far too much for one person to take on, you would need a pipeline of asset creators, scripters and coders.

I may have a go myself... just to see what a type VII sub in DX11 tesselated water looks like.

[vodkaphile]

I just wish we had one company that didn't care so much about profit margins and only produced quality sims and quality strategy games.

Problem is they take lots of effort and research and don't pay nearly as much.

It takes time to play these games and knowledge, willingness to learn. They are sometimes slow and 'boring' to a lot of people so companies produce console style fast action games that sell well but have no depth or detail.


Every once in a while a good game will come out but they are few and far between.

PC gaming will never die but it has changed and will continue to change. I think as far as retail stores go and physical disks, they are more of a thing of the past. It is more digital these days. I still love those thick 500 page manuals though, shame.

[Sepp von Ch.]

When SH6, then only WWI sub sim with austro-hungarian, german, british and russian subs!:ahoy:

[Obelix]

We will see the new SH only year ubisoft will create a new defense and it must be on something than to experience. SH5 - a testing ground for DRM. DRM is tried, SH5 now they do not need.:haha:

[Onkel Neal]

I just wish we had one company that didn't care so much about profit margins ...

....Problem is they don't pay nearly as much.

.


:har:

[sidslotm]

interestingly, there is a simular post on Ubi forums SH5. What I can't understand is most seemed to have voted yes, but the thread is full of complaints, I know there are a few niggly little problems with SH5 and that people have been known to get hot under the coller, especially while attempting to use the toilet only to find the door does't work.

For me SH5 is like watching cricket, you take a book to read and or an umbrella. Things will happen you do don't like, your team may loose, your hero may be out for a duck. If it rains, the teams leave the pitch for the pavillion, here they tell jokes and drink tea while you get wet.

As I look at the gold progress bars Ubisofts SH6 thread, I realize this is life passing by. Millions of us do exacty the same every time we turn on our computers, progress bars rush to the right hand side of the our screens and we seemed to have accepted this as a norm and never to question, why does the progress bar go from left to right and not right to left?

The rub is this, if you like watching cricket you will get wet especially in England ask any Austrailian cricketer, or fan for that matter, it's called life and if the progress bar of your life goes up, down left or right, enjoy. :up:

Do you want SH6 to come
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1121062387/m/1581017719

[tonibamestre]

Why it has to be called Silent Hunter? I bet for innovation! lets start with Task Force,implementing Carriers,scorts and submarines,ALL IN ONE from several Countries or expanded with addons, till become our nowadays Carrier Battle Groups.

Innovation and development guys........ trust me.

:up:

[zachanscom]

that's a joke, right?

[DeadlyWolf]

Its pretty safe to say that we have reached the end of the road for the Silent Hunter series.
To be honest its a miracle that we got anything Post SH2 (if you look at the way the games industry has gone over the past decade.)
These days Sims dont make much in the way of profit, they tend to break even at best.
If you ask me the PC games market in general is pretty much a sinking ship.
It's only because you don't know what you're talking about.

I've heard "PC gaming is dead" since 2001, and yet here It is, alive and growing (yes, growing). In the last years we saw an explosion of indies and a growing attention of aaa developers. Steam is probably near 40 millions users.
Simulations would still sold very well (see dcs a-10), as soon as publishers will stop releasing games in beta and with shameful DRM like SH5.

The only hope I have for SH6 is Ubisoft going bankrupt and selling the IP to someone worth.

[SirMartin]

Okay. joke or not. Is that ANY new Submarine game coming soon?

I may have ignored someone.

[mapuc]

First of all, you should ask your self this question:

Do we need SH6???

In my opinion, those who develope games, have to start thinking in a new way. Like how the games, in the future are played.

Markus

[Webster]

Why it has to be called Silent Hunter? I bet for innovation! lets start with Task Force,implementing Carriers,scorts and submarines,ALL IN ONE from several Countries or expanded with addons, till become our nowadays Carrier Battle Groups.

Innovation and development guys........ trust me.

:up:

actually in an attempt at flat out honesty with its customers they will name it

BUGGY AND UNFINISHED - (the saga continues)

look for it soon being presold at game dealers everywhere before they even start working on it



:woot:

[kamata93]

I think that we need SH6 , but this time something a little bit more realistic..... And the possibility of 2-3 campaings - like american , russian , german ......... Lets hope that they will think of something :D

[U-Falke]

I believe Ubisoft should make releases on this series with more atention to bugs, and incomplete issues should be completed before we buy it.
Dont know.. release add ons with more subs... and snorkel... etc..
I prefer a well done and solid SH5 than a new, beautiful -- and rotten -- SH6.
thsks
A customer.

[Gerald]

:salute:

[kapitan_zur_see]

I may have a go myself... just to see what a type VII sub in DX11 tesselated water looks like.


If you want some insight of this, I suggest you try launching last futuremark 3dmark11. Main scene features a DirectX11 underwater scenery, where some deep survey subs investigate an old u-boat wreck at the bottom of the ocean.

Of course, it's made to kill your GPU, so don't expect anything fps friendly, but will give you an idea.

[java`s revenge]

Why ubisoft maybe we get in the future a sh6 from another
developer.

[XLjedi]

I'm still looking forward to buying SH5 about 3 years from now when the server is gone and they finally have to release the double-platinum non-drm version.

:D

[BigBANGtheory]

Okay. joke or not. Is that ANY new Submarine game coming soon?

I may have ignored someone.

No.

[Arclight]

Yes.

http://www.wolves-of-the-atlantic.com/

Stickied thread here on SS: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=163753

[Obelix]

Yes.
Yes, if I have iPod or iPhone.:DL

[Arclight]

True, but that wasn't the question. Don't have one, but that kinda makes me wish I did. :)

[SilentOtto12]

Both PC and console games will fall to cloud gaming services like OnLive or Gaikai. No more piracy for devs but no console sales either, I forsee a battle between console OEMs and cloud gaming providers :)

Even SH5 was supposed to also be able to run in a cloud gaming environment, don't know what happened to that though
...talk about death of modding...


I play SH5 through Onlive:P

[darek123]

Great! :yep: