Possible Fix For Res Fix Screenshot Issues?

[frau kaleun]

I don't know if this is a well-known "fix" or not, but it was new to me and I know others have had the same problem when using the Res Fix so I figured I'd put it out there. Since switching to Win7 I haven't been able to take screenshots with any success using the Res Fix once it remaps that function to the PrintScreen key. Hit the key and the game just freezes up, sometimes on the first try, or I might get one or two good shots... but eventually it would crash my game. I never seemed to have this problem on XP. I always thought it was some kind of unresolved and unavoidable Res Fix issue, and not an issue with the PrintScreen function itself.

Well, I was trying to look for other ways to get a screen capture and downloaded Fraps, even tho I'd read posts by others here saying that it didn't work for them either. Well, whatever, systems are different, I thought I'd give it a try. But even though I could hit the designated button without crashing my game, and an image file was created, it was always just a black image and not an actual screen capture. So I started googling for info on problems with Fraps and came across this suggestion for fixing the PrintScreen/screenshot issue for fullscreen apps in Win Vista and Win7. It has nothing to do with SH3 or the Res Fix or Fraps but with the Aero themes in both of those OSes.

Apparently if you are using them (and I think they're the default in both) it can bork up the usual PrintScreen function when you are running a game, leading to screen captures turning out as just black images or otherwise giving you major headaches. The suggestion was to temporarily disable Aero while your game/app is running - Windows will revert to a Classic desktop and then back to Aero when the app closes. (Of course you could just turn Aero off completely, but you don't have to.)

What you do is right click on the short cut for your game (or presumably the .exe file itself, I dunno for sure) and click on Properties. Under the Compatibility tab, put a check mark in the box for "Disable desktop composition" and click Apply and then OK to close the Properties box.

Now when you start that game/app, you should get a brief text box from Windows letting you know it's switched to a Classic desktop.

I just tried this in my stock installation and was able to take 6-7 captures in as many seconds without any problem whatsoever, and they all showed up in the folder I mapped them to in the Res Fix d3d9.cfg. I can't remember the last time I was able to do that - uh, yeah, I think it was when I was still running XP and didn't have Aero. :O:

Obviously I haven't tested this extensively or on game installs with a supermod and/or other heavy mod loads that might affect things, but I was having the same issue in several different installs including unmodded vanilla so none of that seemed to matter in the first place. I'm hoping that I can apply the same tweak to my GWX install and have good longterm results.

In the meantime, it's a very painless and easily reversible tweak for other Vista/Win7 Res_Fix users who can't take a PrintScreen capture without it causing problems... if anybody gives it a try and can report consistent success, it might be one more headache that some of us Res_Fix users can be rid of.

Please forgive me if this is already a well-known fix, but I'm just so excited at the mere possibility of getting screenshots again that I had to share! :D :woot:

[timmy41]

Nice!
I havent heard of any fix at all, good find!
cant wait for screenshots :P

[frau kaleun]

If this works I am going to be one VERY happy camper. I mean, after I finally get Fm Interiors and Flags and Pennants and Super Turms and Super Pens and have crews on decks and waterstreams and exhaust and lovely skins all picked out and so much other stuff finally set up and (apparently) working together, after all the time I spent and what's more the untold hours and work of everyone who did all that awesome modding... then I go in to play and I can't take piccies? :stare: :wah: :nope:

I really should go to bed so I can get up earlier and try to start a test patrol tomorrow and have more time to see how it goes. :hmmm:

[Fish In The Water]

The suggestion was to temporarily disable Aero while your game/app is running - Windows will revert to a Classic desktop and then back to Aero when the app closes.

I don't use the Res Fix, but I do run an app that shuts down Aero during gaming sessions. My issue wasn't with screen shots, but rather with the amount of ram being gobbled up by background applications in general.

While Aero adds all kind of cool looking effects to the GUI, it also eats up a fair bit of ram for all those eye-catching bells and whistles. They're great if you're working off the desktop, but completely unnecessary once you start to scratch the hardcore gaming itch. This being the case, I decided to tweak my system so I could flip a switch at any time and fully optimize for gaming.

As I'm running an AMD processor, I installed a freeware utility (published by AMD) suitably entitled AMD Fusion. While it has a number of functions, such as overclocking and hard drive acceleration, it really excels at optimizing performance by shutting down all non-essential applications.

I use it routinely now whenever I start a gaming session and I must say I do notice a marked improvement in response time. That being said, I really like your idea of editing the shortcut properties to temporarily disable Aero.

Seems a great first step, and I would only add the suggestion of a 'fusion' type utility for those who may be interested in taking it a step further. :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

I don't know if this is a well-known "fix" or not, but it was new to me and I know others have had the same problem when using the Res Fix so I figured I'd put it out there. Since switching to Win7 I haven't been able to take screenshots with any success using the Res Fix once it remaps that function to the PrintScreen key. Hit the key and the game just freezes up, sometimes on the first try, or I might get one or two good shots... but eventually it would crash my game. I never seemed to have this problem on XP. I always thought it was some kind of unresolved and unavoidable Res Fix issue, and not an issue with the PrintScreen function itself.

Well, I was trying to look for other ways to get a screen capture and downloaded Fraps, even tho I'd read posts by others here saying that it didn't work for them either. Well, whatever, systems are different, I thought I'd give it a try. But even though I could hit the designated button without crashing my game, and an image file was created, it was always just a black image and not an actual screen capture. So I started googling for info on problems with Fraps and came across this suggestion for fixing the PrintScreen/screenshot issue for fullscreen apps in Win Vista and Win7. It has nothing to do with SH3 or the Res Fix or Fraps but with the Aero themes in both of those OSes.

Apparently if you are using them (and I think they're the default in both) it can bork up the usual PrintScreen function when you are running a game, leading to screen captures turning out as just black images or otherwise giving you major headaches. The suggestion was to temporarily disable Aero while your game/app is running - Windows will revert to a Classic desktop and then back to Aero when the app closes. (Of course you could just turn Aero off completely, but you don't have to.)

What you do is right click on the short cut for your game (or presumably the .exe file itself, I dunno for sure) and click on Properties. Under the Compatibility tab, put a check mark in the box for "Disable desktop composition" and click Apply and then OK to close the Properties box.

Now when you start that game/app, you should get a brief text box from Windows letting you know it's switched to a Classic desktop.

I just tried this in my stock installation and was able to take 6-7 captures in as many seconds without any problem whatsoever, and they all showed up in the folder I mapped them to in the Res Fix d3d9.cfg. I can't remember the last time I was able to do that - uh, yeah, I think it was when I was still running XP and didn't have Aero. :O:

Obviously I haven't tested this extensively or on game installs with a supermod and/or other heavy mod loads that might affect things, but I was having the same issue in several different installs including unmodded vanilla so none of that seemed to matter in the first place. I'm hoping that I can apply the same tweak to my GWX install and have good longterm results.

In the meantime, it's a very painless and easily reversible tweak for other Vista/Win7 Res_Fix users who can't take a PrintScreen capture without it causing problems... if anybody gives it a try and can report consistent success, it might be one more headache that some of us Res_Fix users can be rid of.

Please forgive me if this is already a well-known fix, but I'm just so excited at the mere possibility of getting screenshots again that I had to share! :D :woot:

Thisis a potentially very interesting and worthwhile piece of information/advice...I must get out of my lazy spell and install fraps again to see if this problem is occuring for me...nice one :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Just tried something....you don't need to select "Disable desktop composition" and thus forcing your OS into 'Classic Desktop' mode (good for those with sufficient RAM, granted)...above that 'Settings' section is an area entitled 'Compatability mode' with a single box entitled 'Run this program in compatibility mode for' then 13 choices ranging from Windows95 to Windows7, I chose 'Windows XP (Service Pack 3)' and screenshots and ME are now working fine.

I'll get round to installing fraps again in a day or two.

[Gerald]

Just tried something....you don't need to select "Disable desktop composition" and thus forcing your OS into 'Classic Desktop' mode (good for those with sufficient RAM, granted)...above that 'Settings' section is an area entitled 'Compatability mode' with a single box entitled 'Run this program in compatibility mode for' then 13 choices ranging from Windows95 to Windows7, I chose 'Windows XP (Service Pack 3)' and screenshots and ME are now working fine.

I'll get round to installing fraps again in a day or two. Why not install it now, to secure the system so you can see that there is no fubar, :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Why not install it now, to secure the system so you can see that there is no fubar, :yep:

Could have something to do with the fact I'm a lazy basum and have just concluded a 25 hour shift :-?

[Jimbuna]

Just tried something....you don't need to select "Disable desktop composition" and thus forcing your OS into 'Classic Desktop' mode (good for those with sufficient RAM, granted)...above that 'Settings' section is an area entitled 'Compatability mode' with a single box entitled 'Run this program in compatibility mode for' then 13 choices ranging from Windows95 to Windows7, I chose 'Windows XP (Service Pack 3)' and screenshots and ME are now working fine.

I'll get round to installing fraps again in a day or two.

Forget the above....the problem with ME returned :stare:

Got both boxes checked and everything appears sweet :sunny:

Oh and don't forget to carry out the same operation for the ME exe icon or the satisfactory solution won't last beyond one patrol.

[Gerald]

Could have something to do with the fact I'm a lazy basum and have just concluded a 25 hour shift :-? Yes, it speaks for itself ... we'll take a siesta now :lol:

[frau kaleun]

@Jimbuna: I wasn't having any more trouble with ME (once I switched back to the older gfx drivers) but was still getting freezes when hitting PrintScreen for a screenshot in-game. Altho maybe you mean taking a screenshot of the ME window? I haven't ever tried that. As for Fraps I haven't tried that again yet, but it would be nice to be able to use that as well. :yep:

@Fish In The Water: I'm going to check out AMD Fusion, first I've heard of it. I tried... Gamestop, I think? But I didn't care for it much, as it didn't seem to make much difference and I did read some concerns about it being a dodgy program.

[Jimbuna]

@Jimbuna: I wasn't having any more trouble with ME (once I switched back to the older gfx drivers) but was still getting freezes when hitting PrintScreen for a screenshot in-game. Altho maybe you mean taking a screenshot of the ME window? I haven't ever tried that. As for Fraps I haven't tried that again yet, but it would be nice to be able to use that as well. :yep:



Ah right, yes I did mean PrintScreen, don't notice any stutter on my system but having said that there is currently very little on /in it.

I'm off now till Thursday so I'll make the time to install fraps again....fingers crossed for us both :DL

[Fish In The Water]

@Fish In The Water: I'm going to check out AMD Fusion, first I've heard of it. I tried... Gamestop, I think? But I didn't care for it much, as it didn't seem to make much difference and I did read some concerns about it being a dodgy program.

Haven't heard that myself, (about it being 'dodgy'), although I will admit the documentation does leave a fair bit to be desired. From my experience it seems to work quite well (once you've got it configured correctly).

I wouldn't fool around with Gamestop though, better to head straight to the source:

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/fusion-for-desktops/Pages/overview.aspx

[Gerald]

Haven't heard that myself, (about it being 'dodgy'), although I will admit the documentation does leave a fair bit to be desired. From my experience it seems to work quite well (once you've got it configured correctly).

I wouldn't fool around with Gamestop though, better to head straight to the source:

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/fusion-for-desktops/Pages/overview.aspx Good link, :yep:

[frau kaleun]

Haven't heard that myself, (about it being 'dodgy'), although I will admit the documentation does leave a fair bit to be desired. From my experience it seems to work quite well (once you've got it configured correctly).

I wouldn't fool around with Gamestop though, better to head straight to the source:

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/fusion-for-desktops/Pages/overview.aspx

I have it installed, I'm looking at it now. Thanks for the link.:DL

[Fish In The Water]

I have it installed, I'm looking at it now. Thanks for the link.:DL

You're very welcome, if it helps in some small way - all the better! :sunny:

[frau kaleun]

Well, I've set up the Gaming profile to activate with SH3.exe as a trigger... so it should turn off Aero plus a ton of other stuff it it works. :yeah:

I do like it better than Gamestop... actually I think it might have been called Gamebooster? Can't remember. I think I only used it once then dumped it since I couldn't see that it made any real difference.

[Gerald]

Well, I've set up the Gaming profile to activate with SH3.exe as a trigger... so it should turn off Aero plus a ton of other stuff it it works. :yeah:

I do like it better than Gamestop... actually I think it might have been called Gamebooster? Can't remember. I think I only used it once then dumped it since I couldn't see that it made any real difference. Gamebooster,used to turn off certain functions to free up more memory to your computer.

[frau kaleun]

Ugh, bad news for me at least... went into the game and got three screenshots, but it froze up on the 4th attempt and I had to go into task Manager to shut it down. :wah:

Haven't tried with Fraps yet.

I'm curious to see how Jimbuna does, he has more RAM than me if memory is in fact the issue.

[Madox58]

I don't know if it is related, but I have random freezes in several programs.
Not just SH3/4 related.
3D Max craps out now when doing massive UV work.
I have to reboot do a bit of work, save and reboot again.
:nope:

[frau kaleun]

I don't know if it is related, but I have random freezes in several programs.
Not just SH3/4 related.
3D Max craps out now when doing massive UV work.
I have to reboot do a bit of work, save and reboot again.
:nope:

I don't though, but SH3 is probably the biggest drain on RAM of anything I run on a regular basis. I was in a GWX version of the game with all my mods running just now. I'll have to try again in stock, if I'm able to take screenshots consistently there without freezing up I suspect it will all come down to memory.

Got your PM by the way. :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

Ah right, yes I did mean PrintScreen, don't notice any stutter on my system but having said that there is currently very little on /in it.

I'm off now till Thursday so I'll make the time to install fraps again....fingers crossed for us both :DL

Installed fraps and the screenshot facility is working fine but not the movie (unable to playback the recording) this doesn't bother me much because I don't have my movie compression software installed on this system yet.

I've noticed there is a newer version of fraps available for W7 so I might pull that down soon :03:

[Gerald]

Installed fraps and the screenshot facility is working fine but not the movie (unable to playback the recording) this doesn't bother me much because I don't have my movie compression software installed on this system yet.

I've noticed there is a newer version of fraps available for W7 so I might pull that down soon :03: The version I have, for W7 (Fraps 3.4.2)

http://www.fraps.com/download.php

[Jimbuna]

Yeah but you have to pay if you want the full version :DL

[frau kaleun]

Ugh, bad news for me at least... went into the game and got three screenshots, but it froze up on the 4th attempt and I had to go into task Manager to shut it down. :wah:

Haven't tried with Fraps yet.

I'm curious to see how Jimbuna does, he has more RAM than me if memory is in fact the issue.

I should note that when I loaded the game on that test run, I did not have anything checked in the Properties under Compatibility... I was only using the Gaming profile from AMD Fusion and I may have misunderstood how it works or maybe checking the box in the .exe's shortcut still makes a difference. Will have to try again to be sure.

@FITW, is there something that needs to be done with AMD Fusion to insure that a profile "kicks in" when you start a particular app? Like something you click to tell it to start up when Windows starts, for instance? I enabled Smart Profiles for the Gaming profile with SH3.exe as a trigger, and assumed that doing so would result in the profile being activated any time I started the game, but I didn't really make sure that was the case by alt-tabbing out and checking. I couldn't find anything in the UI that made it look like I needed to click on anything else other than setting up the profile with the right trigger.

[Gerald]

Yeah but you have to pay if you want the full version :DLI knew it was a "hook" :O:

[Jimbuna]

Hook, line and sinker :o

[Gerald]

Hook, line and sinker :o That's what I call for a fishing trip, :D

[Jimbuna]

More like a fish supper.

[Gerald]

More like a fish supper. Cod and curry, :DL

[Jimbuna]

Actually, sardines placed on top of a bed of rice covered with vindaloo source is very nice.

[Gerald]

Actually, sardines placed on top of a bed of rice covered with vindaloo source is very nice. It sounds yummy,,, while I'm getting hungry :03:

[frau kaleun]

Hmm... started up my stock game and then tabbed out to check, apparently I am missing something with regard to AMD Fusion because doing so didn't trigger it to activate the gaming profile. So I'm confused at what the point is of having "Smart Profiles" enabled with certain triggers set, if you have to open AMD Fusion anyway to make the trigger work you might as well just activate the profile manually. :hmmm:

[Gerald]

Hmm... started up my stock game and then tabbed out to check, apparently I am missing something with regard to AMD Fusion because doing so didn't trigger it to activate the gaming profile. So I'm confused at what the point is of having "Smart Profiles" enabled with certain triggers set, if you have to open AMD Fusion anyway to make the trigger work you might as well just activate the profile manually. :hmmm: Have you tried to start the game, :hmm2:

[Fish In The Water]

@FITW, is there something that needs to be done with AMD Fusion to insure that a profile "kicks in" when you start a particular app? Like something you click to tell it to start up when Windows starts, for instance? I enabled Smart Profiles for the Gaming profile with SH3.exe as a trigger, and assumed that doing so would result in the profile being activated any time I started the game, but I didn't really make sure that was the case by alt-tabbing out and checking. I couldn't find anything in the UI that made it look like I needed to click on anything else other than setting up the profile with the right trigger.

It should work right off the trigger as long as you have 'Smart Profiles' enabled and have SH3.exe added to the trigger list.

If you want to make sure, you can always start it manually through The GUI by selecting the 'Gaming' profile (under the general tab) and then clicking the 'activate' button.

I should also mention a few general items that may be of use. Firstly, AMD Fusion runs as a service so you can always check on its status by clicking on: Start -> Run -> services.msc and then scroll down to the 'AMD FusionUtility Service' entry.

Once you find it, you can right click on the item and select properties to manage its startup status. Options should be automatic (delayed), automatic, manual and disabled. If you select automatic it will start with each boot whereas disable will obviously shut it down.

An easier way to do this is to open notepad and write a small .bat file with the following text:

@echo off

echo Starting AMDFusion Service

pause

net start "AMD FusionUtility Service"

pause

*******

Just be sure to save it with a .bat extension rather than the usual .txt, that way you can run it off your desktop (or wherever) to initialize the service at any time.

Also, if you want to shut it down, create the following .bat file:

@echo off

echo Stopping AMDFusion Service

pause

net stop "AMD FusionUtility Service"

pause

*******

Hopefully that'll give you the tools you need to make sure everything is doing what it's supposed to do. :DL

[frau kaleun]

It should work right off the trigger as long as you have 'Smart Profiles' enabled and have SH3.exe added to the trigger list.

See, that's what's weird. I thought that was how it was supposed to work - otherwise there's no point to having the trigger. I have Smart Profiles enabled and SH3.exe in the trigger list, but I started the game and then tabbed out and opened Fusion and the Gaming profile wasn't activated.

I should also mention a few general items that may be of use. Firstly, AMD Fusion runs as a service so you can always check on its status by clicking on: Start -> Run -> services.msc and then scroll down to the 'AMD FusionUtility Service' entry.

Once you find it, you can right click on the item and select properties to manage its startup status. Options should be automatic (delayed), automatic, manual and disabled. If you select automatic it will start with each boot whereas disable will obviously shut it down.

Cool, I didn't even know about that little trick. I just checked and it's on Automatic so the trigger should've worked.

I wonder if it's case-sensitive and I didn't type it in the way it appears in the actual filename. :hmmm:

I'm actually relieved to think that it wasn't the Gaming profile when I had the freeze-up last night, makes me think there's still hope for screenshots to work properly without CTDs.

[Madox58]

Yeah but you have to pay if you want the full version :DL

And that gives you a Lifetime of upgrades.
Just downloaded the 3.4.2 myself.
And yes I'm a registered Member at Fraps!
:O:

[Fish In The Water]

I wonder if it's case-sensitive and I didn't type it in the way it appears in the actual filename. :hmmm:

When I first installed, I cruised through the AMD forums and made a few mental notes. IIRC it doesn't require a full path name but merely the name of the .exe.

Also, if case sensitive doesn't work maybe try all lowercase as I seem to recall seeing it presented that way as an example in forum answers.

[frau kaleun]

When I first installed, I cruised through the AMD forums and made a few mental notes. IIRC it doesn't require a full path name but merely the name of the .exe.

Also, if case sensitive doesn't work maybe try all lowercase as I seem to recall seeing it presented that way as an example in forum answers.

Just checked, I have it all lower case which is how the file is named in the game folder... but I do have several game installations, so several instances of that same file name. Maybe it does need the full path? :hmmm:

[Fish In The Water]

Just checked, I have it all lower case which is how the file is named in the game folder... but I do have several game installations, so several instances of that same file name. Maybe it does need the full path? :hmmm:

I honestly don't know if it works with the full path or not, certainly worth a try...

Just thinking out loud, if the service is set to 'automatic' it should initialize once the trigger condition is met. AFAIK multiple instances shouldn't cause a problem even if the .exe's have different checksum values.

Then again, I didn't program it so I can't say for sure whether AMD did something really funky in this regard. It just seems unlikely and I can't recall other utilities having similar issues with multiple instances.

I suppose if worst comes to worst you could always fire it up with a .bat file just prior to launching the game. While not as convenient, it would at least give you the assurance that it is working as you'd actually see Aero shutdown.

I'll give it some more thought, although right now I'm not sure what else to suggest. Sorry for the hassle, it certainly wasn't intended. :oops:

[Gerald]

I honestly don't know if it works with the full path or not, certainly worth a try...

Just thinking out loud, if the service is set to 'automatic' it should initialize once the trigger condition is met. AFAIK multiple instances shouldn't cause a problem even if the .exe's have different checksum values.

Then again, I didn't program it so I can't say for sure whether AMD did something really funky in this regard. It just seems unlikely and I can't recall other utilities having similar issues with multiple instances.

I suppose if worst comes to worst you could always fire it up with a .bat file just prior to launching the game. While not as convenient, it would at least give you the assurance that it is working as you'd actually see Aero shutdown.

I'll give it some more thought, although right now I'm not sure what else to suggest. Sorry for the hassle, it certainly wasn't intended. :oops: Sure, it was your intuition, you do like girls, so this is definitely in line with this thread :O:

[frau kaleun]

Oh, it's no hassle, it's a great little app and obviously shuts down Aero plus a lot of other unnecessary stuff.

But the trigger is definitely not working, I tried the full path and even went into the game folder and clicked right on the .exe file itself to launch the game.

If I open Fusion and hit Activate it's obvious that it works, Aero stops and I can open Task Manager and watch processes/services shut down. But launching the game? No effect whatsoever.

It's not like it's a big deal to do it manually, but now I'm wondering why the trigger isn't working and I probably won't be happy until I figure it out. :O:


Well, duh, it looks like you have to have Smart Profiles enabled in the profile you are already using before it will switch to another one via the selected trigger. I didn't have it enabled anywhere except the gaming profile. Let's give this a try...

[Fish In The Water]

It's not like it's a big deal to do it manually, but now I'm wondering why the trigger isn't working and I probably won't be happy until I figure it out. :O:

I must say I admire your tenacity... :salute:

Great attribute that and one that serves extremely well.


Well, duh, it looks like you have to have Smart Profiles enabled in the profile you are already using before it will switch to another one via the selected trigger. I didn't have it enabled anywhere except the gaming profile. Let's give this a try...

Hope it works, please post results... :sunny:

[frau kaleun]

Yep, launching the game now activates the Gaming profile automatically... altho I also discovered that you have to add the sh3.exe to the exception list for the profile, otherwise launching it activates the profile which then proceeds to shut down everything not on the exception list, including the game... :doh:

The only thing I don't like is that exiting the game doesn't cause Fusion to revert you back to the profile you were running before you launched it, which apparently has to be done manually... and if you don't go into that profile and tell it what stopped services to restart, activating it has little effect. I've done that though so I at least I can get back to my normal non-gaming system status without activating the default profile AND restarting my computer. :yeah:

[Fish In The Water]

Yep, launching the game now activates the Gaming profile automatically...

Glad to hear it's working! :woot:

altho I also discovered that you have to add the sh3.exe to the exception list for the profile, otherwise launching it activates the profile which then proceeds to shut down everything not on the exception list, including the game... :doh:

This is where a little more documentation would really come in handy. I do think it's a really good utility, but it certainly could be more user friendly.

The only thing I don't like is that exiting the game doesn't cause Fusion to revert you back to the profile you were running before you launched it, which apparently has to be done manually...

Right, I encountered this as well which kind of led me into the whole manual bypass thing. Too busy to sort I guess, (so at the time) it seemed easier to just do a quick work around.

and if you don't go into that profile and tell it what stopped services to restart, activating it has little effect. I've done that though so I at least I can get back to my normal non-gaming system status without activating the default profile AND restarting my computer. :yeah:

Congrats on sorting it out, :up: when I get some free time I'll take a look at mine again and give it a tweak.

[frau kaleun]

Congrats on sorting it out, :up: when I get some free time I'll take a look at mine again and give it a tweak.

:yeah:

Basically all I did was open up the default profile (the one at the top that I assume mirrors whatever your Windows power mgmt profile is) and then run that services.msc again after a reboot.

Anything that was in the Fusion profile as a service it would either stop, start, or ignore, that Windows showed was either Automatic or had started up when I rebooted, I told Fusion to start up again when I re-activated that profile. Only time will tell if there's something else that I'll suddenly find I need that didn't get restarted.

[Fish In The Water]

:yeah:

Basically all I did was open up the default profile (the one at the top that I assume mirrors whatever your Windows power mgmt profile is) and then run that services.msc again after a reboot.

Just tweaked my settings and everything seems to be working well...

Smart Profiles enabled for each profile,
sh3.exe added to the exception list (strange as that may be),
and the Fusion Utility (in services.msc) set to automatic.

Nice to have it running off the trigger! :up:

BTW, if you activate the AMD Balanced profile it restarts Aero automatically. Or, if you want to set another profile to do it, you can go to the 'Software' tab then scroll down to Services Module and find the 'Desktop Window Manager' service. Change it to 'Start' and presto - Aero makes its triumphant return.

Thanks for providing the impetus to get this ironed out. Good working with you! :salute:

[Fish In The Water]

The only thing I don't like is that exiting the game doesn't cause Fusion to revert you back to the profile you were running before you launched it, which apparently has to be done manually...

Still playing with my configuration, (brace yourself for another workaround :O:), but here's what I've come up with so far.

I noticed one of the things Fusion shuts down in gaming mode is my AV. Obviously I want it back once the session is over and I want it back as painlessly as possible.

With this in mind, I made a copy of my default profile, (AMD Balanced in my case) and then enabled Smart Profiles and added the AV .exe as a trigger and an exemption. Next I changed the priority under the Smart Profiles tab to 1 while leaving the game's at 0 (the highest).

This I found was necessary to make sure the already active AV didn't block the transition to the gaming profile.

Once this is setup, you can simply place a shortcut to your AV on the desktop and then click on it as soon as the game ends to 'automatically' revert back to your default system configuration.

No need to open Fusion, no muss no fuss just a simple click to undo.

Last but not least, I've used my AV as an example here, but obviously any shortcut to any .exe will also suffice. Whatever you happen to use most frequently will do the trick.

Hopefully this helps ease a little of the sting in having to do it 'manually'... :sunny:

[Jimbuna]

And that gives you a Lifetime of upgrades.
Just downloaded the 3.4.2 myself.
And yes I'm a registered Member at Fraps!
:O:

Of course as are we all :yep:






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[frau kaleun]

Still playing with my configuration, (brace yourself for another workaround :O:), but here's what I've come up with so far.

I noticed one of the things Fusion shuts down in gaming mode is my AV. Obviously I want it back once the session is over and I want it back as painlessly as possible.

With this in mind, I made a copy of my default profile, (AMD Balanced in my case) and then enabled Smart Profiles and added the AV .exe as a trigger and an exemption. Next I changed the priority under the Smart Profiles tab to 1 while leaving the game's at 0 (the highest).

This I found was necessary to make sure the already active AV didn't block the transition to the gaming profile.

Once this is setup, you can simply place a shortcut to your AV on the desktop and then click on it as soon as the game ends to 'automatically' revert back to your default system configuration.

No need to open Fusion, no muss no fuss just a simple click to undo.

Last but not least, I've used my AV as an example here, but obviously any shortcut to any .exe will also suffice. Whatever you happen to use most frequently will do the trick.

Hopefully this helps ease a little of the sting in having to do it 'manually'... :sunny:

I will have to check again to be sure but I don't think the Gaming profile shuts down my AV, at least when I activated while watching services/processes none of AVG's stuff seemed to blink off. Will have to activate the profile and open the AVG console I guess to make doubly sure. As my internet connection is always on the last thing I want is for the AV to shut down.

What I should probably do is set Internet Explorer as the trigger to re-activate the default profile, since inevitably the first thing I do after exiting the game is come straight here. :O:

It's a shame Fusion lacks the function of simply reversing the changes made by a given profile as soon as the "trigger" .exe is no longer running. I have other programs that will do that - Display Changer, for instance, will force a change to desktop resolution as soon as a designated .exe file starts running, but then change it back as soon as the designated app shuts down. If you can program Fusion to start services at the click of a button, I don't see any reason why it couldn't have been designed to do that automatically when the trigger app stops running.

[Gerald]

I will have to check again to be sure but I don't think the Gaming profile shuts down my AV, at least when I activated while watching services/processes none of AVG's stuff seemed to blink off. Will have to activate the profile and open the AVG console I guess to make doubly sure. As my internet connection is always on the last thing I want is for the AV to shut down.

What I should probably do is set Internet Explorer as the trigger to re-activate the default profile, since inevitably the first thing I do after exiting the game is come straight here. :O:

It's a shame Fusion lacks the function of simply reversing the changes made by a given profile as soon as the "trigger" .exe is no longer running. I have other programs that will do that - Display Changer, for instance, will force a change to desktop resolution as soon as a designated .exe file starts running, but then change it back as soon as the designated app shuts down. If you can program Fusion to start services at the click of a button, I don't see any reason why it couldn't have been designed to do that automatically when the trigger app stops running. Good to begin organizing themselves to you, it .... seems to be a perpetual topic of this, soon you can start picking the fruits from the tree, :hmmm:

[Fish In The Water]

What I should probably do is set Internet Explorer as the trigger to re-activate the default profile, since inevitably the first thing I do after exiting the game is come straight here. :O:

Sounds like a good idea. :sunny:

It's a shame Fusion lacks the function of simply reversing the changes made by a given profile as soon as the "trigger" .exe is no longer running.

Agreed...

Perhaps in a future version. I think I'll drop them an email to that effect. Certainly can't hurt. :yep: