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Feuer Frei!
04-25-11, 07:24 AM
Guardsman attacks Kate Middleton
Calls her a posh b**** and a cow
Army investigating him for racist posts


A BUCKINGHAM Palace guard has been axed from his regiment's duties on the day of the royal wedding after he ranted about Catherine Middleton on Facebook.

Scots Guardsman Cameron Reilly, 18, called the bride-to-be a "posh b****" on the social networking site.

The soldier, who regularly wears the famous bearskin hat and red tunic while on duty outside royal palaces, is also being investigated for racist posts.

Referring to Ms Middleton and Prince William, he wrote: "Hur and william drove past me on friday n all a got was a s****y wave while she looked the opposite way from me, stupid stuck up cow am a not good enough for them! posh b**** am totally with u on this 1 who reely gives a ******* about hur".

The guardsman, who has on his Facebook profile that he joined the Army in 2010, is seen posing on the website holding machine guns while wearing his uniform.
Commenting on the picture, he makes a racist remark, and while inside the Tower of London - where he is also pictured on Facebook - he makes an anti-Semitic posting.

Reilly, who lists "Super-strength lager" and "Causing Trouble" among his interests, is pictured kissing a bottle of vodka and posing with the fortified wine Buckfast on his page.

A spokesman for the MoD said the claims were being investigated.

SOURCE (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/royal-wedding/palace-guard-fired-over-kate-middleton-facebook-rant/story-fn885hn2-1226044316976)

:haha::haha: What a moron. Why would you do that on Facebook, of all places?

mookiemookie
04-25-11, 07:32 AM
People will eventually learn that anything you say on the internet is forever, and your employer, friends, significant others, family, clergy, et al can see it and use it against you.

Or maybe they won't. I don't post anything on Facebook that I wouldn't say to any of those people listed above's faces.

TLAM Strike
04-25-11, 07:59 AM
I would have hoped the selection process for such an elite posting would weed out such people. Or at least they would hammer in to them on day one that you don't do or say anything to embarrass the family you are representing. :nope:

STEED
04-25-11, 08:19 AM
What a twonk to say that on Facebook...D'OH. :damn:

Tribesman
04-25-11, 08:22 AM
OK I knew recruitment problems had got bad but a Scots Guardsman who is into the purple tinnies and buckfast?????????
What low life weegie schemie stumbled into the recruiting office?

papa_smurf
04-25-11, 08:37 AM
Almost makes you proud to be british:har:

TLAM Strike
04-25-11, 08:40 AM
OK I knew recruitment problems had got bad but a Scots Guardsman who is into the purple tinnies and buckfast?????????
What low life weegie schemie stumbled into the recruiting office?

:doh: I got no idea what just got said...

:haha:

kraznyi_oktjabr
04-25-11, 08:57 AM
Few centuries ago this kind of talk could have had some minor effects to man's life expectancy.

Rhodes
04-25-11, 09:23 AM
OK I knew recruitment problems had got bad but a Scots Guardsman who is into the purple tinnies and buckfast?????????
What low life weegie schemie stumbled into the recruiting office?

The guards that wears the famous bearskin hat and red tunic while on duty outside royal palaces are the welsh guards or scots guard?

Tribesman
04-25-11, 09:49 AM
The guards that wears the famous bearskin hat and red tunic while on duty outside royal palaces are the welsh guards or scots guard?
Or Grenadier, Coldstream or Irish guards.
The Scots are the 3rd footguards and Welsh are the 5th.

I got no idea what just got said...

City of culture:03:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlUUXz7ZScA

mookiemookie
04-25-11, 10:04 AM
City of culture:03:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlUUXz7ZScA

Are...are they speaking English? :doh: :rotfl2:

Tribesman
04-25-11, 10:10 AM
Are...are they speaking English?
Its funny when to think of when you get people complaining that they don't understand immigrants speaking.
You can get a Somali from the Gorbals speaking perfect local english and the BNP would still complain about blacks not fitting in

TLAM Strike
04-25-11, 11:13 AM
Few centuries ago this kind of talk could have had some minor effects to man's life expectancy.
But then we tossed our tea in the harbor and started talking right...

:O:

vienna
04-26-11, 01:30 PM
People will eventually learn that anything you say on the internet is forever, and your employer, friends, significant others, family, clergy, et al can see it and use it against you.


Those who don't will be weeded out by the 'Net's version of the "Darwin Effect"; the permanence of anything posted on the 'Net will consign them to a life of constantly dragging their follies behind them. When I was in elementary and high school, we were always warned of and threatened by the dreaded "Permanent Record" ('anything wrong you do will follow you through life on your permanent record...'). We all learned that the "Permanent Record" was essentially a myth. However, now, the Internet is fast becoming "Permanent Record" we feared; whatever we post does follow one around and is seemingly permanent. Add to this the growing tendency of employers, schools, etc. obtaining data about us from Net postings, either by ourselves or posting about us by others, and the scale of the effect of 'bad' postings is worrisome. Anyone who has sought employment recently knows that employers are less likely to interview you to find out about who you are in favor of the quicker (and cheaper) method of doing an Internet search of your name, sites, postings, etc. What one thought was a meaningless, minor post can block one from a job, school, or anything else; and once done, it cannot, sometimes, be undone.

AVGWarhawk
04-26-11, 01:33 PM
Facebook...is that not for friends and keeping in contact with friends? Blogs are for spewing whatever you want about anyone you want with little to no recourse? I don't know, it is all very confusing. :doh:

Jimbuna
04-26-11, 01:37 PM
But then we tossed our tea in the harbor and started talking right...

:O:

LOL :DL

vienna
04-26-11, 01:42 PM
Facebook...is that not for friends and keeping in contact with friends? Blogs are for spewing whatever you want about anyone you want with little to no recourse? I don't know, it is all very confusing.


Facebook, blogs, it doesn't matter; if it can be accessed by the general public, it is there to haunt, possibly forever.

AVGWarhawk
04-26-11, 01:46 PM
Facebook, blogs, it doesn't matter; if it can be accessed by the general public, it is there to haunt, possibly forever.

That is the thing....people think the internet is the place to do whatever they like and say whatever they feel. It is a false sense of security. There is a recourse for posting things of this nature.

kraznyi_oktjabr
04-26-11, 02:06 PM
But then we tossed our tea in the harbor and started talking right...

:O:
Out of curiosity: which combination of you, me and guardman's head are your referring to? :hmmm:

Herr-Berbunch
04-26-11, 02:33 PM
Woah! Whatdya mean forever?

Heads over to 'confessions' thrashing to edit!


@jimbuna did you get my pm?

nikimcbee
04-26-11, 02:38 PM
Woah! Whatdya mean forever?

Heads over to 'confessions' thrashing to edit!


@jimbuna did you get my pm?

Herr-Berr, sorry to hear about your job loss.:wah: So do you get to keep the uniform and the hat? Maybe you could work for Prince Charles?

DarkFish
04-26-11, 02:48 PM
That is the thing....people think the internet is the place to do whatever they like and say whatever they feel. It is a false sense of security. There is a recourse for posting things of this nature."this nature"? He said he hates this Middleton gal, and called her names. So what? I hate our beloved Her Majesty, Beatrix, by the grace of God, Queen of the Netherlands, princess of Orange-Nassau, princess of Lippe-Biesterfelt as well. Yes, I call her names as well. I'd like her better dead, and I'd even condone a lethal attack on her and her family. Here you go, it's on the Interwebz. Now should I be fired (don't have a job anyways:O:) for this? Aren't we all entitled our own opinions? As long as you don't show them in public and keep them private, and of course don't let them interfere with your work, I don't see why your employer should have anything to do with them. Where is this world going if you can't even hate someone without losing your job?

Feuer Frei!
04-26-11, 03:11 PM
"this nature"? He said he hates this Middleton gal, and called her names. So what? I hate our beloved Her Majesty, Beatrix, by the grace of God, Queen of the Netherlands, princess of Orange-Nassau, princess of Lippe-Biesterfelt as well. Yes, I call her names as well. I'd like her better dead, and I'd even condone a lethal attack on her and her family. Here you go, it's on the Interwebz. Now should I be fired (don't have a job anyways:O:) for this? Aren't we all entitled our own opinions? As long as you don't show them in public and keep them private, and of course don't let them interfere with your work, I don't see why your employer should have anything to do with them. Where is this world going if you can't even hate someone without losing your job?
Well, i kind of agree with you, but...
there is such a thing called code of conduct.
I'm sure that when you sign up pr are hired as a Palace Guard you are agreeing to a few conditions.
At my job, when i signed on the dotted line i also had to read the Employee Handbook and sign off on that too. The Employee Handbook and the Enterprise Bargaining Agreement states, and i quote:
"Instant Dismissal----
Whilst not limited by the following, conduct of the nature stipulated will justify instant dismissal:


Unauthorised disclosure of confidential company information to an external party----
Defamation of the business or any of its team members
Verbal or physical abuse of any team member or member of the public.

Now i picked out the ones that pertain the most to this situation.
As you can see, when you sign up for a job, you also agree to be bound by the Code of Conduct, to uphold the business's name and values and that you give a good impression of the business that you work for.
So, we may think that it's ok to slander and to simply give our opinions to the public or our our friends about the place where we work, but, there are and there will be ramifications of that, especially if your company has code of conducts.
I'm sure the Palace has similar, if not more rigorous criteria for working for them.
If you are going to be that stupid, posting on a public social network site about how crappy your employer is or how crappy the job is or how crappy the life is that you've been dealt, which has the company's name mentioned alongside of it, be prepared to lose your job!
NOTE:
I forgot to mention, in my companie's code of conduct, there is also a clause, several actually, about posting on network sites anything about your work place.
This is also frowned upon and if doing so, will be disciplined.
I say, if you don't like your job, or the people you work for, quit and work somewhere where you are happy.
Don't be a loser and whine and whinge on a social networking site! :down:

Tribesman
04-26-11, 03:29 PM
He said he hates this Middleton gal, and called her names. So what?
He also wrote about shooting jews beating blacks and hating Pakistanis.
So the so what is that dickheads like that should be left in the gutter with the filth, not put in the uniform of a supposedly top regiment.

kraznyi_oktjabr
04-26-11, 04:09 PM
In company where I worked earlier there was no code of conduct or such I just had to sign agreement that I don't disclose any information I get in my job.

That paper is in my opinion unnecessary as if I ever leak anything prosecutor will want my head on silver platter. :DL

Blood_splat
04-26-11, 05:38 PM
I'm sure he has giveth thy princess the Royal Teabag.

Castout
04-26-11, 11:22 PM
The man is a RL troll. I bet he's psychotic or psychopathic.


Or maybe they won't. I don't post anything on Facebook that I wouldn't say to any of those people listed above's faces.

That.

Post anything that you would stand on and say it to the person directly.

DarkFish
04-27-11, 06:08 AM
He also wrote about shooting jews beating blacks and hating Pakistanis.
So the so what is that dickheads like that should be left in the gutter with the filth, not put in the uniform of a supposedly top regiment.Yes he may be a dickhead. But as long as he behaves professionally when on the job, I don't see a problem with it. Facebook is not meant for anyone to see, what you write on facebook is meant for your friends and something private. Your employer has nothing to do with it IMO.

So unless there's something in his code of conduct about not saying mean things about the royal family, I think sacking him was unjustified.

Dowly
04-27-11, 06:21 AM
So unless there's something in his code of conduct about not saying mean things about the royal family...

I'm sure there is. ;)

Tribesman
04-27-11, 06:31 AM
But as long as he behaves professionally when on the job
Apparently his dreams about shooting jews was when he was on the job.
Do you not see the problem of putting a ****** like that on the street with a gun?

So unless there's something in his code of conduct about not saying mean things about the royal family, I think sacking him was unjustified.
Code of conduct?
That would be covered in the British army values and standards policy, I think it was last updated in 2008.
As it happens they are expected to be observed both on and off duty which further undermines your "on the job" line.

Jimbuna
04-27-11, 12:17 PM
Apparently his dreams about shooting jews was when he was on the job.
Do you not see the problem of putting a ****** like that on the street with a gun?


Code of conduct?
That would be covered in the British army values and standards policy, I think it was last updated in 2008.
As it happens they are expected to be observed both on and off duty which further undermines your "on the job" line.

Precisely .....most if not all uniformed ranks (Police as well) swear an oath of allegiance to the Crown as well as signing the Official Secrets Act.

Not only does it mean you are required to adhere to it whilst in service but also for the rest of your life and IMHO this individual is displaying a type of behaviour which I if I were his commanding officer would find very questionnable to say the least.

What is it they say about careless talk, loose lips and monkeys with guns? :hmmm:

Dowly
04-27-11, 12:23 PM
Code of conduct?
That would be covered in the British army values and standards policy, I think it was last updated in 2008.
As it happens they are expected to be observed both on and off duty which further undermines your "on the job" line.

Here's the 'Values and Standards of the British Army' (http://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.army.mod.uk%2Fdocuments%2Fgen eral%2Fv_s_of_the_british_army.pdf&rct=j&q=british%20army%20values%20and%20standards&ei=WVC4TcGyNY2WOujC-fgO&usg=AFQjCNHagiG9A7WkwGwzngt2SNcE0Buhqg&sig2=jXEHtctSezgiKyFYRU9ofw&cad=rja)

And I'm sure, as a Foot Guard, there are more stuff you must take in consideration, both on and off duty. :hmmm:

Tribesman
04-27-11, 01:35 PM
Thanks Dowly, a quick look over that gives about a dozen easy things to haul him over the coals for regarding his behavior.

What is it they say about careless talk, loose lips and monkeys with guns?
Is it that they can write the complete works of Shakespear if given enough time?

AVGWarhawk
04-27-11, 01:39 PM
I love argument for argument sake! :shifty:

Jimbuna
04-27-11, 04:31 PM
I love argument for argument sake! :shifty:

I'm putting it down to perceptual distortion....the judge usually conceded that point...on a good day for the 'goodies' :DL