North American Union?

[the_tyrant]

http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=2250

yeah ok, the source is unreliable
but what do you think of a north american union?

Will we fare better then our friends in Europe?

[Platapus]

I don't see how this could benefit the US

[the_tyrant]

I don't see how this could benefit the US

Canadian Oil and resources moving into the us, and american goods moving into Canada more easily

thats all I can think of for now

[Rilder]

Can we have Canada's Government?

[yubba]

Good way to start a civil war, not what I'm lookin for. Economic collapse is one thing, this is an entirely different matter. Open borders on both ends millions flooding in.

[Fish In The Water]

Original source citing Canadian PM Harper:

If I’m elected I’ll give Canada to the US. I am American.:har:

[CCIP]

Open borders on both ends millions flooding in.

At the rate things are going now, I think you mean "millions flooding out" :88)

[yubba]

one could hope

[Platapus]

Canadian Oil and resources moving into the us, and american goods moving into Canada more easily

thats all I can think of for now

We already have one of the best and most open trade border with Canada.

Canada is, and has been for a long time, our biggest trade partner. :yeah:

[Torplexed]

We already have one of the best and most open trade border with Canada.


Longest straight line border in the world, with little of the goofy zig-zagging that accrues from centuries of dispute.The least militarized as well. Let's keep it that way.:cool:

http://www.damninteresting.net/content/canada.gif

[Penguin]

The only thing which Canada could profit from a union with the US are sensible weapon laws, in any other matter it would mean a regression.

[gimpy117]

The only thing which Canada could profit from a union with the US are sensible weapon laws, in any other matter it would mean a regression.

sensible weapons laws? How many shootings in Canada?

[Bilge_Rat]

I don't see how this could benefit the US

Or rather I don't see how it would benefit Canada. We are not in a recession. Our housing sector is fine as are our banks. Our per capita debt is 1/3 that of the US. We have plenty of Oil, natural resources, clean water. Our crime rate is 1/10 that of the US. why on earth would we want to join the US?

Btw I am in Miami sipping a beer as I write this.:D

[Penguin]

sensible weapons laws? How many shootings in Canada?

I have no numbers in my head which I could state without using a search engine, certainly more than in Europe. But it's a huge country, I don't think that the state can uphold its monopoly on violence (is this the right term? - we call it it here this way) in all areas, anytime, anywhere.

[Platapus]

sensible weapons laws? How many shootings in Canada?

According to

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

In Canada about 2.5 people per 100,000
In the US we are about 10 people per 100,000

In both countries guns are used more for suicide than for homicide

[Penguin]

According to

http://www.gun-control-network.org/GF01.htm

In Canada about 2.5 people per 100,000
In the US we are about 10 people per 100,000

In both countries guns are used more for suicide than for homicide

bad statistic, as they graphic only displays the percentage of legal gun ownership. Even that looks wrong, in Switzerland everybody who served in the military has his rifle at home (ammo is controlled).
For Europe you can certainly double the numbers. As I said in the other thread, illegal ownership is 20% here (this includes legal owners who have too many or non-registered weapons)

[Fish In The Water]

...why on earth would we want to join the US?

Btw I am in Miami sipping a beer as I write this.:D

Then you've already answered yourself...

Obviously for the good weather! :sunny:

:D:D

[Stealhead]

"illegal ownership is 20% here (this includes legal owners who have too many or non-registered weapons)"

How can you expect a stat about anything illegal to be accurate? At best a stat on something that is illegal and not tracked as something legal like legally owning a gun would be the only thing to go on would be those caught violating the law and basically just guessing from there.

Maybe they have better statisticians in Germany I just dont see how they can say that the level is 20% and you say that this includes legal owners who have too many guns how much of that 20% are they?All I can say is that I was stationed near Kaiserslaughtern Germany for almost 3 years and I did not hear of any violent crimes involving a gun in that area when I was there and several German nationals worked for my unit and the military kept us informed about local criminal activity.

Interesting that so many people kill them selves with guns though. I guess people do it that way because it seems most reliable and painless which it is I'd guess but people do survive even head shoots. MY dentist told me once when he did his required hospital time years ago that some guy came in the ER who had shoot himself in the mouth(with the barrel up towards his brain) it was a .32 cal bullet and it hit one of his molars blew it apart and bounced up and hit the roof of his mouth and broke his "roof of the mouth bone" the pallet I guess they call it.Of course if they did not have a gun on hand theyd have done the deed with something else.

[joegrundman]

from a position o pure viability: for canada to become incorporated into a new united states, it would be a walk in the park. Economically, politically, everything would work out with the minimum of fuss and only incremental changes.

For mexico to join would permanently alter the economic and political structure of the rest of north america in short order.

What is in fact to gain from this? For anyone?

Let alone the disadvantages for the US and Canada, Mexico's oligarchs would be obliged to live with US anti-trust and anti corruption laws! I'd like to see them ratify that!

[Bilge_Rat]

Canada and the US are already very integrated. They share a similar language, culture, political system. The free trade agreement signed 20 years ago already broke down most trade barriers. The Canadian and US government closely coordinate their economic and financial policy. Canadians can enter the US at anytime for business or pleasure with minimal hassles (same for Americans coming to Canada).

Going all the way to a more formal union would be difficult politically and would not yield much more economic benefits.

Mexico is a different case altogether. Canadian and US businesses love using the low cost labour, but no one wants to see millions of Mexicans being able to move with no restrictions to Canada or the US.

[Platapus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrA4V6YF6SA

Tom Brokaw explains Canada to Americans

A very nice piece :salute:

Who here remembers Operation Yellow Ribbon?

I wager not many

[Rockstar]

I don't see how this could benefit the US

I guess we would get unlimited and easy access to back bacon, donuts, smokes and beer.

[Platapus]

I guess we would get unlimited and easy access to back bacon, donuts, smokes and beer.


And her

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw

:D

[Bilge_Rat]

Canada has always backed up the US since WW2, even siding with the US against Britain and France in the 56 Suez crisis. the only time we did not go along was....Vietnam and Iraq. Maybe you guys should listen to us more often...:D

[Platapus]

Lets not forget Iran 1980 either, another thing we have Canada to thank. :salute:

[Rockstar]

Oh Canada

Every time we visited we were treated like old friends by their Navy and Coast Guard.

When we would transit through the Detroit River in the early 80's it was amazing to see the difference between Detroit and Windsor. On one side a war zone on the other a quiet and clean city park.

[Armistead]

I see a northern movement, mexicans take over the US, we move into Canada....I have a friend that lost his job in construction, a former cop, got on with the border patrol. He did that for less than a year, said it's a war that they can't fight and not worth the pay.

[MothBalls]

Can we have Canada's Government?Can't, they don't have one.

Canadian lawmakers vote to dissolve government, call elections

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/25/canada.no.confidence/

(CNN) -- Canada's House of Commons voted 156-145 on Friday on a no-confidence resolution aimed at the Conservative government of Prime Minister Stephen Harper, triggering the dissolution of Parliament and elections in the next few weeks.

[Platapus]

Wish we had the ability to vote no-confidence in the US. But if we did, we would be doing that every other week. :D

[DarkFish]

Can't, they don't have one.



http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/03/25/canada.no.confidence/You might want to ask Belgium for advice, they've got a long history with missing governments:O:

[Fish In The Water]

And her

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWQf13B8epw


Good one, thanks for the link! :sunny:

[onelifecrisis]

"Harper is seeking a majority government (for the 4th time) in order to implement this treasonous agenda."

Well, at least the journalist puts his bias right up front where everyone can see it! lol

[Sailor Steve]

Good one, thanks for the link! :sunny:
Check her out live, hot and nasty! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYSv61UuRzA

[Fish In The Water]

Check her out live, hot and nasty! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYSv61UuRzA

The more I see the more I like...

She's got an interesting blend of styles, bit of a Jewel vibe with a sassy jazz twist! Thanks Steve. :salute: