The Hobbit preview 10min

[kiwi_2005]

THE HOBBIT Start of Production

The making of the hobbitt over the next 3 yrs there ya go & dont forget to bookmark facebook page :DL

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10150223186041807&oid=141884481557&comments

[papa_smurf]

Cant wait:D

[Weiss Pinguin]

Peter Jackson's lost quite a bit of weight since the Lord of the Rings :D Lots more gray hair too... I guess doing a series like this will do that to ya. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

[Sailor Steve]

Very nice! Thanks for the link! :rock: :sunny:

[UnderseaLcpl]

I'm looking forward to it. I was more looking forward to it when I saw the horses. I thought "Holy hell, I might get a chance to be an extra in a cavalry charge in one of the most epic movies ever made! Maybe they'll have a cavalry charge in the Battle of Five Armies!"

For those of you who think that's an odd desire, you are not horsemen. Any true horseman would delight in the chance to participate in a cavalry charge. Think about it. Hundreds of men sitting astride hundreds of massive beasts of war, bearing down upon the enemy to the sound of a thousand thundering hooves. Charging someone with just one horse is awesome. Get a few friends and the awesomeness multiplies exponentially. I know because I've done it. But a charge with a whole regiment of cavalry? Or even a few score? I can't even imagine the ecstasy, even if it's a fake charge.

So I immediately went to the omniscient internets and looked up the casting calls for "The Hobbit". And then I said a bad word. They aren't asking for horsemen, they're asking for white male extras who stand shorter than five-foot-seven, which made me say another bad word. Actually, it was the same one, but slightly more pronounced and emphatic. And I may have said it twice. Or more than that. And also added other bad words.

As with the LOTR trilogy, I seem to have missed my chance again.:damn:

[Torplexed]

Peter Jackson's lost quite a bit of weight since the Lord of the Rings :D Lots more gray hair too... I guess doing a series like this will do that to ya. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

Hey! He's not done until he's turned out that other prequel, The Silmarillion. :O:

[Chad]

Dude awwwesome! I'm very glad that Peter Jackson is doing The Hobbit :up:

[Dowly]

Amazing to see the sets like that, really never pay much attention to how big they are when I see them in the actual movie.

[frau kaleun]

Hey! He's not done until he's turned out that other prequel, The Silmarillion. :O:

That was actually the first of the books I read and what got me hooked.

The Hobbit was probably my least favorite of the major works... but I expect the movie will be superb if Jackson can work the same old LOTR magic.

Also, it has a dragon in it. I hope it's not just a knock-off of those things the Nazgûl rode, but something unique and really cool.

[Pisces]

So when is this movie due? I wanna hold off reading the book. Books are allways better, so it will be the double whammy when experienced in that order.

[nikimcbee]

:woot::woot::woot:

[UnderseaLcpl]

:woot::woot::woot:

Hey, dude, does your civil war reenactment group have cavalry charges? I've seen that there are cavalry units but I've never been to a reenactment myself so I don't know how they do things, and I hate to spend the money on the uniform if they just half-ass the charges.

[Sailor Steve]

So when is this movie due? I wanna hold off reading the book. Books are allways better, so it will be the double whammy when experienced in that order.
I read the books for the first time in 1969, and I was late to the party. Why have you not read them before now?

[nikimcbee]

Hey, dude, does your civil war reenactment group have cavalry charges? I've seen that there are cavalry units but I've never been to a reenactment myself so I don't know how they do things, and I hate to spend the money on the uniform if they just half-ass the charges.

No. IMO, the cav is a joke, but that is neither here nor there.:doh: They did do a cav charge several years ago with sabres drawn(!), but they did charge when the grass was wet and one of the horses slipped and broke ait's leg and had to be put down.:o:dead:

They haven't done one since.

We do have a fully functioining artillery limber, which I ride on.:D

[UnderseaLcpl]

No. IMO, the cav is a joke, but that is neither here nor there.:doh: They did do a cav charge several years ago with sabres drawn(!), but they did charge when the grass was wet and one of the horses slipped and broke ait's leg and had to be put down.:o:dead:

They haven't done one since.

We do have a fully functioining artillery limber, which I ride on.:D

Damn. Poor horse.

I don't know if my horse would pull an artillery limber. He doesn't like being attached to things. I could probably train him to do it, but I don't know if it's worth the expense and effort just to cart cannons around. I'll have to think about it:hmmm:

[nikimcbee]

Damn. Poor horse.

I don't know if my horse would pull an artillery limber. He doesn't like being attached to things. I could probably train him to do it, but I don't know if it's worth the expense and effort just to cart cannons around. I'll have to think about it:hmmm:

here just for you:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1643637&posted=1#post1643637
:D

[UnderseaLcpl]

here just for you:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1643637&posted=1#post1643637
:D

Much obliged, thanks to the hobbit. Now, back to hobbits.

[frau kaleun]

IMO if this movie turns out to be of the same quality as LOTR, there is no way on earth that having read the book beforehand could ruin it.

Granted I hadn't read any of the books within the 15 or so years prior to the first LOTR movie coming out, but then I didn't really need to. I'd read them so many times in the two decades prior that there weren't really any surprises to be had provided Jackson didn't do any major improvising.

(I can still remember sitting in the theater watching the Fellowship trailer for the first time, seeing the various characters, and a little voice in my head saying "Well that's Boromir, that's Legolas, that must be Gimli..." and then another voice in my head asking "It's been at least 15 years, HOW CAN YOU STILL KNOW THESE PEOPLE?!?!?" :O: )

My first experience with The Hobbit was an animated version that was on TV I don't know when, before I ever read the books so maybe I was a pre-teen or barely a teenager? Orson Bean did the voice of Bilbo, I want to say John Huston was Gandalf, and Hans Conreid was Thorin...?

I didn't start reading the books until the summer of 1980, The Silmarillion had come out in paperback and I picked up a copy in a drugstore and got hooked. I think I'd tried to read a loaner copy of The Hobbit but just couldn't get into it. But I soon asked for the little paperback set that had it plus the LOTR trilogy and got it for my birthday a couple months later.

So, eh, for me The Hobbit was not a beloved introduction to the written works of Tolkien, it was always more the "filler" in between The Silmarillion and LOTR.

[Pisces]

I read the books for the first time in 1969, and I was late to the party. Why have you not read them before now?Well, I'm even later to the party. In that year I wasn't even thought of yet. My parents didn't even know about eachother yet. Though around 1985 I played a game on this thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnavox_Odyssey²) that was based on the story. But I had been totaly oblivious to the existance of the LOTR lore until 'THE movies' came out. Once I saw the first movie I immediately bought the english version of the trilogy book. (like everyone else :oops:) The dutch translation contained such strange malformed names of the people and place, I was never going to read that. But yeah, since then I've been a bit lazy with reading. The Silmarilion and the Hobbit are catching dust. Hopefully the fire of Mount Doom will be rekindled in the comming years.

I've also still got the german version of Das Boot catching dust in the book cupboard. How naive I was when I tried reading it in it's original tongue. (Yeah, I set high standards to my self.)

[Weiss Pinguin]

So, eh, for me The Hobbit was not a beloved introduction to the written works of Tolkien, it was always more the "filler" in between The Silmarillion and LOTR.
Heh, the Hobbit was the first in the series I read, since it was so much easier ;) Once I got older little and I could wrap my head around the style in LOTR I got more into the books. (but that was after I saw the movies, unfortunately :lol:)

[frau kaleun]

Well, I'm even later to the party. In that year I wasn't even thought of yet. My parents didn't even know about eachother yet. Though around 1985 I played a game on this thing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnavox_Odyssey²) that was based on the story. But I had been totaly oblivious to the existance of the LOTR lore until 'THE movies' came out. Once I saw the first movie I immediately bought the english version of the trilogy book. (like everyone else :oops:) The dutch translation contained such strange malformed names of the people and place, I was never going to read that. But yeah, since then I've been a bit lazy with reading. The Silmarilion and the Hobbit are catching dust. Hopefully the fire of Mount Doom will be rekindled in the comming years.

I've also still got the german version of Das Boot catching dust in the book cupboard. How naive I was when I tried reading it in it's original tongue. (Yeah, I set high standards to my self.)

I know people my age and older who never read the books (and barely knew they existed) before they saw the first movie. And they got hooked as well, now they love the books because of the movies and not the other way 'round.

Which told me right off what a fantastic job Jackson did, since it clearly wasn't just Tolkien geeks who thought the movies were awesome.

[onelifecrisis]

That was actually the first of the books I read and what got me hooked.

Wierdo.

[Howard313]

Oh The Hobbit. Last I heard it was being shut down due to legal troubles or some shiznip like that.

Nice to see it crawling back from the grave.

[Torplexed]

Wierdo.

Why? She started from the beginning. And Morgoth makes Sauron look like a pup.

[August]

For those of you who think that's an odd desire, you are not horsemen. Any true horseman would delight in the chance to participate in a cavalry charge. Think about it. Hundreds of men sitting astride hundreds of massive beasts of war, bearing down upon the enemy to the sound of a thousand thundering hooves. Charging someone with just one horse is awesome. Get a few friends and the awesomeness multiplies exponentially. I know because I've done it. But a charge with a whole regiment of cavalry? Or even a few score? I can't even imagine the ecstasy, even if it's a fake charge.

I don't think it's odd at all. In fact it sounds a lot like a military parachute jump which is still my all time favorite activity.

Sorry to hear you won't get your chance UL.

[sharkbit]

That was actually the first of the books I read and what got me hooked.




Wow! Reading the Silmarillion first and getting hooked is pretty impressive. I've tried to read it a few times and just can't get into it. I'm a HUGE LOTR fan. I read the books the first ime in the early '80's and have reread them around a dozen times or so.
So even being a fan, I still couldn't get into the Silmarillion.

Also, it has a dragon in it. I hope it's not just a knock-off of those things the Nazgûl rode, but something unique and really cool

I doubt it will be a cheap knock off. I'd bet my life they will do an excellent job of developing Smaug.
I remember looking at a book about the movies before they came out and seeing some of the characters and thinking "Boy, that is exactly what I pictured in my mind's eye when reading the book!" I think Peter Jackson will stay true to his vision.

I'm already starting to vibrate about the movie.

:)

[frau kaleun]

Why? She started from the beginning. And Morgoth makes Sauron look like a pup.

:yep:

I don't know why that one caught my interest when The Hobbit didn't. Maybe because I was older? I was 16 and many of my friends had already been through the existing Tolkien books numerous times. They all said you "had" to start with The Hobbit but I remembered it as a "kid's" story that I'd seen as a cartoon and the book felt the same to me: like a story for little kids. As a mature adult (STOP LAUGHING! :stare:) that might not be a problem, but you know how it is as a teenager - anything that smacks of being "for little kids" just leaves you cold and you want nothing to do with it, lol.

(I had much the same issue when I finally tried to start the Narnia books. Most of my "fantasy geek" friends from high school on raved about them, but they had all read them first at a much younger age. By the time I got around to it my reaction was a pronounced "meh." Tried again as an adult but the reaction was the same, and of course without the nostalgic childhood attachment... nothing. Barely made it through the first film out of sheer curiosity.)

The Silmarillion was a whole 'nother kettle of fish, and it gave a depth and history to Middle Earth that sparked my interest in following up to find out the rest of the story. And when I finally sat down to read The Hobbit, Bilbo finding that ring had far more significance and I could see how the story worked as a necessary link between what came before and what would come after.

[August]

Peter Jackson's lost quite a bit of weight since the Lord of the Rings :D Lots more gray hair too... I guess doing a series like this will do that to ya.

Heck time alone will will do that to ya. What's it been, 12 years since LotR?

[Platapus]

Heck time alone will will do that to ya. What's it been, 12 years since LotR?

Not quite. The first one came out in 2001. Man has it been that long? :o

[frau kaleun]

Not quite. The first one came out in 2001. Man has it been that long? :o

Well, if it was released in 2001, then he probably has been working on the films for at least a dozen years.

[UnderseaLcpl]

I don't think it's odd at all. In fact it sounds a lot like a military parachute jump which is still my all time favorite activity.
Nothing beats experiences like that. :salute:


Sorry to hear you won't get your chance UL.
I'm not dead yet.

[kiwi_2005]

I know people my age and older who never read the books (and barely knew they existed) before they saw the first movie. And they got hooked as well, now they love the books because of the movies and not the other way 'round.

Which told me right off what a fantastic job Jackson did, since it clearly wasn't just Tolkien geeks who thought the movies were awesome.

I remeber in my 20's being given the LOTR novel with all 3 books in one, I got about quater way into the story before dumping it, it just didn't interest me even though at the time I was right into fantasy novels writers such as Margaret Weis, David Eddings and Sara Douglass to name a few. J.R.R Tolkien LOTR is like a children's story for adults well it was written in the 50s or somewhere near about.. But that never stopped me from seeing Peter Jacksons LOTR movies 4 times. And yes I will not be buying The Hobbit novel I probably wont like the story, but I will enjoy the movie. :doh: If that made any sense

[kiwi_2005]

Update:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/4922882/Hobbit-gets-second-Bilbo-loses-dwarf



Fans of The Lord of the Rings have another reason to like The Hobbit, with confirmation that Sir Ian Holm will reprise his role as the older Bilbo Baggins. As director Sir Peter Jackson broke the news of Holm's return, he was able to refer to the skilful casting of Martin Freeman as a younger Bilbo. "One comment that came up from the recent video blog was the Bilbo voice at the end. Many of you assumed it was Sir Ian Holm," Jackson said on Facebook.

"Whilst Ian will be returning as the older Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit, that recording was actually Martin Freeman's voice, taken from a script read-through we recorded when the cast first arrived.
"I have to admit, I wasn't sure who it was when I first heard it, either."
That backs the self-belief that Freeman displayed at the start of filming in February when he joked that he "wasn't tying himself up in knots" about living up to Holm's depiction of Bilbo in The Lord of the Rings.
"Without being big-headed or falsely modest, I think I'm a good match for him," he said at the time.

Other stars returning for The Hobbit, the two-part, 3D prequel to The Lord of the Rings trilogy, include Sir Ian McKellen as Gandalf, Andy Serkis as Gollum, and Orlando Bloom as Legolas. Elijah Wood is reprising his role as Frodo Baggins, even though the character did not appear in JRR Tolkien's book of The Hobbit, which is set 60 years before the trilogy. Jackson also said on Facebook that he would use the four-day Easter break to recharge his batteries and "do a few script tweaks for future scenes".

However, in another Facebook posting (https://www.facebook.com/#%21/notes/peter-jackson/fili/10150233459761558) on Sunday night, Jackson announced that British actor Rob Kazinsky was pulling out of his role of Fili the dwarf for personal reasons. "Rob has been terrific to work with and his enthusiasm and infectious sense of humour will be missed by all of us," Jackson's post said. "I should say that Rob's departure will not affect ongoing filming of The Hobbit, nor will it impact work done to date, as we had yet to film much of Fili's storyline."

[Dowly]

Thansk, keep us updated! :up:

[HunterICX]

Indeed, that's very good news :yep:

I like Ian Holm's acting quite a bit since I first saw him in Alien.

HunterICX

[sharkbit]

......since I first saw him in Alien.

HunterICX

Wait....what? :timeout:

:)

[Dowly]

Wait....what? :timeout:

:)

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http://www.scene-stealers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/a.jpg

[frau kaleun]

Glad to see Holm will be back in the role, I was wondering about that myself.

Saw him in a filmed BBC (?) production of King Lear that was awesome.

Also if you have not seen the movie The Sweet Hereafter I recommend it highly, but have some Kleenex on standby cuz you may need it.

[Sailor Steve]

I'll be curious to see how they fit Frodo and the older Bilbo into the story. Of course it's a two-parter, so they'll have room for flash-forwards and narration.

I'm glad McKellan is still around to play Gandalf again. It wouldn't be the same without him.

As for the books, I read them all when I was 19 and was bitterly disappointed with the Hanna/Barbera and Bakshi movie versions. I was worried about the Jackson movies but got a very pleasant surprise. The extended versions are among my favorites.

[sharkbit]

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http://www.scene-stealers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/a.jpg

Wow...I never realized. :sunny:

Thanks.
:)

[August]

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http://www.scene-stealers.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/a.jpg

He sure has the ears for Bilbo! :DL

[Torplexed]

I always like Holm as Napoleon in Time Bandits. :cool:

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsH/8137-19636.jpg

[ajrimmer42]

PJ has just posted an update on shooting the hobbit in 48fps, which would be pretty cool:

http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/your-comments-on-48-fps/10150235459531558

[TarJak]

I always like Holm as Napoleon in Time Bandits. :cool:

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsH/8137-19636.jpg
He's an excellent actor. I first saw him in Oh what a lovely war as President Poincare (a very young Ian Holm in a minor role, playing against greats like John Mills, John Gielgud, Laurence Olivier, Maggie Smith and Sussanah York), But think his Bernard Samson in the mini series Game Set and Match based on Len Deighton's trilogy of the same name, was brilliant.

[kiwi_2005]

update

Gollum actor also gets to direct in The Hobbit


Actor Andy Serkis, who played Gollum in Sir Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings trilogy, is taking on an extra role in the two Hobbit films.
As well as reprising his on-film performance, Serkis has also been hired by Sir Peter as a second-unit director on The Hobbit.
That means he will be asked to take charge of shooting some scenes on the production.

"It is wide ranging and encompasses a lot of directing aspects of filmmaking and story," he told the Hollywood Reporter.
"There is some performance capture, but I will be very much on the live-action sets and locations helping Peter to tell the story," he said.
"When Peter asked me, there was this email out of the blue. It was a fantastic surprise".

The actor told the Hollywood Reporter online that he understood Sir Peter's "sensibility". "We have a common history of understanding Middle Earth," he said. "A lot of the crew from The Lord of the Rings was returning to work on The Hobbit. There is really a sense of Peter wanting people around him who totally understand the material and the work ethic."

The Hobbit is being shot in 3D, and Serkis said the book would be "faithfully represented with a fresh interpretation".
Of his own performance in the filming now underway, he said: "He is very much a Gollum that people will recognise."

Serkis planned to direct his first live-action feature once filming on The Hobbit wraps up, and hoped to launch a perform-capture studio and training centre.

Serkis also has performance-capture work in two additional movies: as Caesar in the prequel Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and Captain Haddock in The Adventures of TinTin: The Secret of the Unicorn.
- NZPA
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10717931

And some info for the Geeks:

Hobbit film to pioneer high-speed 3D technique

Peter Jackson has lifted the lid on the production of The Hobbit, the much anticipated prequel to his Oscar-winning Lord of the Rings movies.
Pictures on Jackson's Facebook profile give a glimpse into how the movie is being shot in 3D and reveal the film will break with nine decades of cinema tradition.

The Hobbit has so far been shot at 48 frames a second as opposed to the usual 24 - which Jackson said "hugely enhanced clarity and smoothness".
Films have been shot at the slower rate since the late 1920s and while modern cameras can shoot at a faster rate, most cinemas can't project the footage.

"Looking at 24 frames every second may seem okay - and we've all seen thousands of films like this over the last 90 years," Jackson said.
"But there is often quite a lot of blur in each frame, during fast movements, and if the camera is moving around quickly the image can judder."

While acknowledging the technique would offend film purists, Jackson likened the moment to when digital CDs supplanted vinyl records. "There's no doubt in my mind that we're heading towards movies being shot and projected at higher frame rates."
Jackson said the technique meant it was possible to watch two hours of 3D footage without getting eyestrain.
After watching The Hobbit footage for several months he noticed the lack of clarity in normal film and TV.
"I saw a new movie in the cinema on Sunday and I kept getting distracted by the juddery panning and blurring. We're getting spoiled!"

Jackson hoped Warner Brothers would consider showing the movie in the higher frame rate when it is released in December next year.
By Nicholas Jones (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nicholas-jones/news/headlines.cfm?a_id=715) | Email Nicholas (http://dynamic.nzherald.co.nz/feedback/author/index.cfm?a_id=715&objectid=10718854)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10718854

[Feuer Frei!]

Thanks for the updates m8 :salute:

[kiwi_2005]

one more update I just seen now. Stephen Fry's a funny guy.

Stephen Fry to become a hobbit mayor


Sir Peter Jackson has cast English actor and comedian Stephen Fry in his Hobbit movies.
Sir Peter said on his Facebook page that Fry - who is writing the script for the Dambusters movie Sir Peter is producing - will play The Master of Laketown in The Hobbit. The master is described as a deceptive and greedy but smart man who serves as the mayor of the town closest to the Lonely Mountain when Bilbo Baggins and his group arrives.

"In addition to his writing skills, he's a terrific actor and will create a very memorable Master for us," Sir Peter said. The actors and some of the film crew would take a break in filming next month to get some editing and visual effects work done, he said.
"As we near the end of our first shooting block we are looking at characters featuring in sequences that take place a little later in the story."

Sir Peter also announced the master's conniving servant, Alfrid, would be played by Ryan Gage, an actor in the 2007 film Outlaw.
"Ryan is a great young actor who we originally cast in a small role, but we liked him so much, we promoted him to the much larger Alfrid part," said Sir Peter, who initially cast Gage as Drogo Baggins.

Conan Stevens from American medieval fantasy television programme Game of Thrones, who stands 2.13m tall, will play an Orc called Azog.
The first Hobbit movie is set for release in December 2012 and the second for December 2013.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10726705
- NZPA

[HunterICX]

Stephen Fry...awesome :DL

HunterICX

[Feuer Frei!]

The Hobbit, Production Video No2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfPaIdMAso0&feature=player_embedded

[Sailor Steve]

Sylvester McCoy! Woohoo!

But what are they doing taking a vacation? NO VACATION! Back to work, lazy slugs! Me wants Hobbit NOW!