Facebook & Google are CIA Fronts

[Feuer Frei!]

There used to be a saying: ''No one makes a name for himself without giving something up''
Take Mark Zuckerberg for example. He is one of the most ''successful entrepreneurs'' in the last decade. Having made a fortune through his Facebook empire, he reaches more than 500 million people worldwide. It seems like a fairytale. A student creates a new interface to connect the people throughout the world. Well, it sounds great doesn't it? It would, if we were true.

Here is a good video that demonstrates that Facebook was indirectly funded by the CIA with the goal of learning and storing everything there is to know about you. Why? To monitor and ultimately control:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B37wW9CGWyY&feature=player_embedded#

Again, the people have been totally duped by the Facebook-mania and can only see what they are told to see.
Let's look at headlines that should cast no doubt about the true character of CIAbook:

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_zuckerberg_says_the_age_of_privacy_is_ov .php

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/6966628/Facebooks-Mark-Zuckerberg-says-privacy-is-no-longer-a-social-norm.html

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/technology/news/article.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10456534&ref=emailfriend#Scene_1

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/09/20/100920fa_fact_vargas?currentPage=all

http://real-agenda.com/2010/10/06/facebook-social-media-a-convenient-cover-for-spying/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6389669/US-spies-invest-in-internet-monitoring-technology.html

Google has come under scrutiny over its attempt to eliminate competing search engines and block ''controversial'' sites and people, but the biggest controversy came over its alleged ties to the CIA and NSA.

Google founders Sergey M. Brin and Lawrence E. Page are portrayed as average folks, Stanford University students, who teamed up to create a ''superior search engine''. Their attempt to do just that turned out to be so successful that they started to get funding from big players, for example Sun Microsystems.
It can be assumed that the CIA and NSA funded them as well (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/group-requests-details-on-google-nsa-partnership-2010-02-05). As in the above example of Facebook, don't forget the Google scandal connected to China last year, where Google simply evaded censorship laws by moving to Hong Kong.

The CIA might have used Google as a soft power proxy in China as well for destabilization operations

http://lastwatchdog.com/google-nsa-collaboration-draws-alarm/

http://www.infowars.com/youtubes-parent-google-is-a-corporate-member-of-the-council-on-foreign-relations/

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/december2006/061206seedmoney.htm

http://www.pcworld.com/article/188581/the_googlensa_alliance_questions_and_answers.html

Use alternatives to make contact if you can, e.g. email or other messengers. If you have Facebook, you have probably realized how people have literally sold their lives over to it.

Does what happens in the Facebook stay in the Facebook?


Does what happens in the Facebook stay in the Facebook? (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/Does%20what%20happens%20in%20the%20Facebook%20stay %20in%20the%20Facebook?)

I let you ponder now.

[Platapus]

There are no laws restricting people from voluntarily posting personal data on the Internet Tubes.

If people are foolish enough to believe that any data can be secure on the Internet Tubes, there is little that the "government" can or should do.

It is not surprising that a large number of people who "work for the government" in the "information industry" refuse to have a facebook account or decline to participate in any social networking. :yep:

BTW, I would question the appellation that Zuckerberg is one of the most ''successful entrepreneurs'' in the last decade. He had one idea, albeit a very financially successful idea, but still only one idea and one based on a cultural fad. To me successful entrepreneurs are successful at succeeding at more than one idea.

Let's see Zuckerberg do it again with another of his ideas. Then I might consider him a successful entrepreneur. Barring that, he got lucky. :yep:

[Dowly]

This was interesting:
http://www.cracked.com/article_19029_6-things-social-networking-sites-need-to-stop-doing.html

[Schroeder]

^And that's why I'm no member of any social network.

[Respenus]

^And that's why I'm no member of any social network.

Agreed. Yet one should not forget that Google is not all about "do not evil". As the Cracked article and multiple others around the webs have shown, Google is no friendly neighbour, but a viscous corporate machine whose only goal is to use personal information to squeeze even more money from you. In the end, nothing is neutral on the net, but if I have to sell my soul to anyone, it's Google any day. This way, only the state and corporations have my info and not every idiot on the planet :03:

Just to be clear, I do not support in any way the actions of Google, Facebook or its ilk. I'd prefer my info to remain my own. But one must always chose a lesser of two evils when using a service, real life or virtual one (nowadays it's harder and harder to known which is which).

[Schroeder]

^And that's why I'm not using Google either.;)
Although I have to admit that it is definitively the best search engine out there....:roll:

[GoldenRivet]

Well, its like i have said in the past.

"never expose more of your arse than you care to have shot off."

this means that if someone is a social network user... they should exhibit some social networking responsibility.

every interaction has to be treated as if it were being conducted in public.

If i have told people this stuff once i have told them a thousand times.

1. be careful what you say. Threatening comments, racist comments, comments about your job, co-workers or other people - no matter how mundane the comment might seem to you at the time can be grounds for termination, slander suits, divorces or potentially arrests. Trial cases have been won and lost based on information obtained from social networks. In divorce cases, with child custody at the forefront... one of the first things an attorney will ask for is screen shots of the spouse's facebook status updates or any possibly incriminating pics. At my wife's work, some anonymous co-worker took a screen shot of an off color remark another co-worker made on their facebook page about management at the specific company. they printed the image and it found its way to the bosses desk the next day.

2. Be careful what pictures you post of yourself and other people: think about the christmas party where you got wasted and had someone write on your exposed butt cheeks with magic marker "Burn in hell (insert bosses name) you sorry bastard"? chances are you went home that night in a drunken stupor and posted that pic on facebook (or perhaps you used your mobile device to do this immediately) eventually, there is a good chance your boss is going to see this... or in the very least, the office brown nose will. If this were to happen, odds are you will be cleaning out your desk before the new year. In another case, child custody has been won and lost because of pictures - while possibly harmless and mundane - probably even staged - appeared to put the child in danger. Whether or not the child was actually in danger is not the question... the question is, could the lawyer argue successfully that the child was in danger? the answer, frequently is yes.

3. Guard your information: Once your information is on a social networking site, it is next to impossible to remove it completely. Don't put any information out there that you wouldn't freely give to a stranger, or provide to others in a public environment. When providing contact information, use the "phone directory" rule of thumb... if it can be freely found in a phone book, by all means, post it. This is pretty much limited to your Name, address and phone number (you have the option of not providing either) you provide birth date and other such things in casual conversation in public... so whats the difference?

4. Use privacy filters: It may be argued that social networking sites like facebook cannot protect your information, but thats a half truth. In your privacy settings you can select an option that allows only registered users who are in your "friends network" to view the information you post. This means that if any average joe tried to find your facebook profile for the purpose of steeling incriminating photographs or vital personal information, they would likely find your profile... but would be greeted with the message "John Johnson only allows information to be shared with his friends, to learn more about John, you can sign up for facebook and join his network of friends." -- of course ALL friend requests have to be approved specifically by YOU the user, so if you accepted the serial stalker rapists friend request you either (a) didnt know he was a serial stalker rapist or (b) are one of those people who is clearly willing to accept any and all friend requests even from people you dont know, or dont know well.

5. Behave yourself: Camera's are everywhere. Some cities even post CCTV cameras all over town to maintain a constant veil of "security", cell phones have cameras and occasionally you cannot even tell if the person is texting or taking a picture. Its never been a good idea to act a fool in public... but now that ANYONE can take your picture - in many cases without you even knowing about it - it is imperative that you are always trying to be on your best behavior in public. If you host a private party where you feel things might get out of hand - have a no cell phones or camera's policy. check them at the door, anything you have to do to protect yourself and others if you feel you cannot be responsible around mind altering substances.

6. Don't use social networking, and dont be a pest to those who do. If you feel you cannot handle the 14 whiskey sours without posting pictures of magic marker messages written on your butt cheeks then dont use social networking sites. Regardless of how evil, or underhanded social networking sites may be... or may appear to be... it is still a choice whether or not you use them. If someone is a facebook or myspace user, dont be a pest by constantly posting garbage about how facebook is a super secret CIA project meant to subject users to tin-foil hat proof mind control, or how the FBI has teamed up with alien races to select humans as a food source based on whether or not they sign up for myspace which is really an intergalactic menu. In general... some users knew the risks when they signed up for a facebook account... but most just dont want to hear that garbage.

To most users, facebook is a tool like any other. It allows its users to keep track of family and friends and acquaintances who live in far off parts of the world, or who's mobility or lifestyle is a hindrance to normal contact methods.

[Sailor Steve]

So I guess the CIA now knows I have a brother and a sister, two daughters and three grandkids. They also know I play in a band, who my friends are (at least the ones I claim online) and what TV shows and music I freely admit I like.

Anyone who reads Subsim knows the same.

[GoldenRivet]

So I guess the CIA now knows I have a brother and a sister, two daughters and three grandkids. They also know I play in a band, who my friends are (at least the ones I claim online) and what TV shows and music I freely admit I like.

Anyone who reads Subsim knows the same.

a complete stranger who engages a person in perhaps 15 minutes of casual conversation might come to find out a lot of that stuff.

if i think back to every casual conversation i have had with a new co-worker or someone...

"Hey, so where ya from?"

"got any kids?"

"what do you do for a good time?"

"Seen any good movies lately?" (or read any good books / seen any good tv shows etc)




face it. if you have been outside your home before, you have asked someone these questions (or have had someone ask you)

[Sailor Steve]

face it. if you have been outside your home before, you have asked someone these questions (or have had someone ask you)
:yep:

I also applied for a job at the Post Office once. Ten-year background check by the FBI. Anything on my FaceBook page that didn't turn up then isn't worth knowing.

[razark]

Anyone who reads Subsim knows the same.
So you're saying Subsim is part of the vast CIA front, as well?

[Platapus]

Anyone who reads Subsim knows the same.

Subsim is also a social networking type site and yes, I am sure that some web crawler is crawling through as we type.

If it is on the Internet Tubes, it is compromised information.

Like many parental figures I cringe when I read what The Frau's kid puts up on her pages. :nope::nope::nope:

[Sailor Steve]

So you're saying Subsim is part of the vast CIA front, as well?
Shhh. Onkel Neal is watching. :shifty:

[razark]

Shhh. Onkel Neal is watching. :shifty:
That, followed right after by your sig:
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it.
-Mark Twain

:D

[frau kaleun]

So I guess the CIA now knows I have a brother and a sister, two daughters and three grandkids. They also know I play in a band, who my friends are (at least the ones I claim online) and what TV shows and music I freely admit I like.

I don't even do Facebook, so the CIA knows nothing about me.


Well, nothing except what was already in the file anyway. :O:

[Gerald]

Facebook & Google are CIA Fronts,BS!