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Freiwillige
03-02-11, 09:26 PM
So I pulled out my dusty old copy of Panzer Elite and gave serious thought to giving it a go. I have a laptop now with a built in Graphics card so T-34 vs Tiger or Steel fury is out of the question.

So the last time I played Panzer Elite was pre mods of any sort.

Has the mods changed this sim much?

Ostpak worth it?

Any others you would recomend?

Or would it be wise to just put it back into the closet??

Sledgehammer427
03-02-11, 09:49 PM
just look up PE3

ITS TOTALLY WORTH IT!

realistic ballistics, new tanks, better looking gfx, so on. its worth playing, esp on a laptop.

Freiwillige
03-03-11, 01:30 AM
So I loaded the old girl and with compatibility set she fired right up.:up:

I downloaded and installed the mods with JGME and the game crashes anytime I try to go into any real time action although the menu's still work.

Any Idea's?

Sledgehammer427
03-03-11, 01:38 AM
when does it crash?
before anything?

my game crashed when I tried using the arrow keys. I remapped them and it works like a charm now

Freiwillige
03-03-11, 01:44 AM
It loads fine, Choose quick mission, choose tank click play and it pops up a windows failed to run program error. Click okay and im back in the game at the post mission stats menu.

Sledgehammer427
03-03-11, 01:49 AM
thats odd.
what does your mod setup look like?

Freiwillige
03-03-11, 02:47 AM
It looks like this

PanzerEliteThree Activate or deactivate

frinik
03-03-11, 09:28 AM
Freiwllige do you have the Ostpak installed and enabled with PE3?Because there re not compatible.What you need now to play with PE3 are scenarios 2009 and 2010 they combine all the former Ostpak and Desert missions in 2 separate mods that you enable after PE3 in your JSGME.What seems to be happening si thta you are missing mission files which why your games loads only the menus and briefs and not the mission.PE3 can be a bitch.I had the same problem at some time.Can't remember how I solved it though.

The bets spot to go for help with PE is the PEDG forum solely dedicated to PE where all the fans and modders meet to discuss mods and solve problems. Look for BritAldo44 he is very helpful and knows PE like the palm of his hands.Here s the link:
http://pedg.yuku.com/forums/1/t/PEDG.html

Luck!

Skybird
03-03-11, 10:32 AM
link (http://www.amazon.com/Steel-Beasts-Gold-Pc/dp/B000065SQG/ref=sr_1_1/179-0593971-4121113?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1299166276&sr=8-1):yeah:

PE sorrows solved. :D

Freiwillige
03-03-11, 12:35 PM
Freiwllige do you have the Ostpak installed and enabled with PE3?Because there re not compatible.What you need now to play with PE3 are scenarios 2009 and 2010 they combine all the former Ostpak and Desert missions in 2 separate mods that you enable after PE3 in your JSGME.What seems to be happening si thta you are missing mission files which why your games loads only the menus and briefs and not the mission.PE3 can be a bitch.I had the same problem at some time.Can't remember how I solved it though.

The bets spot to go for help with PE is the PEDG forum solely dedicated to PE where all the fans and modders meet to discuss mods and solve problems. Look for BritAldo44 he is very helpful and knows PE like the palm of his hands.Here s the link:
http://pedg.yuku.com/forums/1/t/PEDG.html

Luck!

I only have PE3 downloaded and installed. PE3 has Ostpak in it as well as MvR and Britpack 44 all using the PE-X engine.

As you can tell I've done my homework!

I spent hours last night trying different advices on forums, different compatibility modes, downloading DirX 9c, changing every executable to compatibility mode etc, No Joy.

Stock works wunderbar! Any Mod and my CD becomes a drink holder!

Stock the game is less than ideal, So I appreciate your help and I will keep plugging away at it but from what I understand Vista is probably the issue.

Sledgehammer427
03-03-11, 01:36 PM
try downloading the scenarios packs as well

The following mods are separate and require being enabled after Panzer Elite Three in the mod enabler:

Scenario2009 includes all 49 Ostpak East front scenarios
http://ostpak.chollie.co.uk/Scenarios2009PE3.exe
154 mb (Updated December 23 2010)

This adds 39 west front scenarios from the Monty vs Rommel/ Torch, Brit44 and Ostpak mod:
http://ostpak.chollie.co.uk/Scenarios2010PE3.exe
70 mb (Updated December 23 2010)

the links in the quote do work, heres the original post
http://panzerelite.yuku.com/topic/482/Panzer-Elite-three-mod-LINK-contains-Ostpak-MvR--BritPak-mo

Freiwillige
03-03-11, 04:58 PM
Okay so here is my list of failure thus far.

DirX9c installed
DirectX7 installed

Stock game works perfectly!

Patched to Ver 1.2 latest official patch

Test Stock game works Perfectly!

PE3 installed Game crash (GameProject has stopped working)

Installed missions in correct order
PE3
2009 missions
2010 missions

Result Same as soon as I go to the 3d battlefield the screen flashes a few times and i get the (Game project has stopped working) windows error.

Downloaded and tried PE-x latest version, Error code "tried to access memory at ef2376bblah blah memory at 0000000000 could not be read"

Crash!:damn:

Freiwillige
03-03-11, 05:00 PM
Also I set every executable in the game folder to compatibility for xp and 98

with the disable desktop composition and run as administrator selected.

Sledgehammer427
03-03-11, 05:39 PM
Thats really weird, it must be a vista thing.

Freiwillige
03-03-11, 06:31 PM
PE3 uses PE-x in it and on the PEDG PE-X group forum it says they wont support Vista!

So I assume that the old ostpak etc will work but wont have the modern physics and time of flight because that is all PE-x mods doing.

So I will hack away some more but I have a feeling I have come full circle with this.

Thanks for the help though guys.:up:

frinik
03-04-11, 02:34 AM
This is hogwash! I have PE installed on 2 laptops with Vista one 32 bits( with PE3 enabled and working very well) the other 64 bits and both work well.

I hear the same nonsense being uttered as biblical truth for virtually every sim(SF, TVT etc).Vista is not the devil.OS don't stop games from working,.Some OS require Adminstrator's rights (such as Vista) to perform tasks or instal mods it's and it's a royal pain in the butts.Others like Win 7 sometime force you to re-instal Direct- X9C.

I think people are so used to Windows XP's simplicity that they ascribe all kind of negative nonsense to Vista or Windows 7 whereas, in fact, often they are to blame( and I include myself in the lot) for not properly installing games or mods or sometimes faulty downloads.

Freiwillinge my own experience with PE3 has been one of frustration.For 6 months I had the same problem you faced.PE worked well but the moment I tried enabling PE3 the menu and brief would load and then the game would crash and give me the same message and then on to the statistic page.Ostpak worked fine and I was able to play separately scenarios 2009 and 2010(only the single missions not the campaigns).I spoke to all the guys on the PEDG forum and they gave me all kind of tips and solutions but I was never able to solve the problem.So I uninstalled PE3 and gave up on it until 7 months ago.Then I went back to PEDG and downloaded PE3 again and miracle it worked????No idea why because I did not do anything differently.I don't know howe old is your version of PE3 but if'it's more than 7 months old it may worth downloading the newer version and trying to re-installl PE3 again.What worked for me may work for you as well?????

And BTW Panzer Elite works well with Vista( both versions) and Windows 7 so don't listen to the Cassandras who tell you otherwise because I can attest to it and I am sure thousand of other people playing that sim!!!!

T:salute:

Freiwillige
03-04-11, 07:07 PM
Thanks for the motivation. I haven't given up for sure. I think it may have something to do with my video card, It is a Intel built in. G950

That is the only thing I can reason because the screen flashes like its trying to initialize the game but then the error pops up so........

Ill keep tinkering.

frinik
03-04-11, 09:15 PM
WOW! That's low end gpu...Could be although I play PE on a SIS Mirage 672 with barely 64 mbs dedicated and 128 mbs shared video memory( probably one of the lowest end gpu you can find nowadays) and while a bit choppy at times the games play wells albeit at 640 X 480 res. and I have PE3 working well with that but my OS is XP because I suspect running the same gpu with Vista or Win 7 with such a deadhorse would crash my game.

Try downloading again PE3 and re-installing it with patch1.1 only.

Freiwillige
03-07-11, 06:06 AM
No luck. Although I did add the smooth terrains and the updated Normandy mods and I can play it fully cranked at 1024x768 smoothly as ice.

Also some effects mod by Joe that's nice.

So its coming along just nothing to do with PE-x will work in any way shape or form!

red_scope
03-18-11, 06:26 AM
Greets.

I just so happen to have fixed my install, and maybe my advice can help others. (I had the same gameproject crash- return to desktop and can`t switch back to program error.)

I am using win7

Step by Step...

1) install game. c:\PanzerElite
2) extract patch 1.2-patchdat to root directory- c:\PanzerElite
3) extract seamless terrain files to root directory.
4) compatibility mode win98 on: 3d_control_center, mod_enabler, mymenu, gameproject, panzer_elite.
5) desktop to 16 bit.*
6) extract PanzerEliteThree, Scenarios2009PE3, Scenarios2010PE3 to root.
7) activate mods PE3 then scen2009 and lastly scen2010 with mod_enabler
8) en voila!


*) it seems that 32bit doesnt work, enable both desktop and game setting to 16 bit.

Good luck :cool: