View Full Version : Do you carry a pocket knife?
GoldenRivet
03-02-11, 03:52 PM
If so what kind?
I think that pretty much every man ought to carry a pocket knife with him wherever he goes. I have found myself needing one more often than not, and back before i started carrying one i found myself frequently wishing i had one and cussing myself because i didnt.:DL
I carry the Colombia River Knife and Tool M16-13Z
http://www.warriorsandwonders.com/images/CRKTM1613Z.jpg
It is a durable, medium weight, single edged, assisted opening knife of 8 inches length end to end and has not let me down yet.
I ised to carry its little brother the M16-01Z which is about an inch shorter.
the_tyrant
03-02-11, 03:54 PM
I wan't to, but the school won't let me
Takeda Shingen
03-02-11, 03:55 PM
No. I would get fired if I got caught bringing anything of the sort to work. Also, it's application within the confines of music history and theory would be limited.
I want to carry a sword, but I don't think they would let me. :P
F no, i'd go to jail if i was caught with one
GoldenRivet
03-02-11, 03:56 PM
I wan't to, but the school won't let me
No. I would get fired if I got caught bringing anything of the sort to work.
obviously there are certain folks who cannot carry a pocket knife because of school or work... if you meet this criteria - you need not apply :D
GoldenRivet
03-02-11, 03:58 PM
F no, i'd go to jail if i was caught with one
may i ask you to expand on that.
does carrying a pocket knife in Denmark automatically cause one to be arrested? or are you involved in some sort of trade wherein pocket knives and other sharp objects are frowned upon?
Where i live, i can only think of a couple of people i know who dont take one with them virtually everywhere they go
may i ask you to expand on that.
does carrying a pocket knife in Denmark automatically cause one to be arrested? or are you involved in some sort of trade wherein pocket knives and other sharp objects are frowned upon?
Where i live, i can only think of a couple of people i know who dont take one with them virtually everywhere they go
its just illegal to carry knives here, hell, even a carpet cutter or a screwdriver might get you into trouble if you're carrying one and you're either off work, or you have no use for it
GoldenRivet
03-02-11, 04:00 PM
its just illegal to carry knives here, hell, even a carpet cutter or a screwdriver might get you into trouble
pardon the expression
but
you've got to be down right $h*tting me:o
pardon the expression
but
you've got to be down right $h*tting me:o
i wish i was, people are afraid of everything over here:damn:
... or you have no use for it
Well, there you go. You just need to be creative in finding a use for it.
I tend to carry one with me all the time. It's a useful tool, and better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it. Unless I'm going somewhere it is specifically forbidden, I have my knife.
I believe the law is somewhat the same here as in Denmark. Without a good reason, you're not allowed to carry potentially lethal blade in public. Not sure if there's an length limit or something, tho. :hmmm:
Tribesman
03-02-11, 04:13 PM
i wish i was, people are afraid of everything over here
Hasn't Denmark got the same sort of laws as the UK but metric, so you are allowed a 70mm blade as long as its a manual opening non locking pocket knife, unless its a hunting/fishing/work knife which you can carry when you are engaged in those activities?
GoldenRivet
03-02-11, 04:14 PM
I believe the law is somewhat the same here as in Denmark. Without a good reason, you're not allowed to carry potentially lethal blade in public. Not sure if there's an length limit or something, tho. :hmmm:
I think in many places in the US - anything with a blade length of over 6 inches is prohibited in public places.
obviously - regardless of blade length there are places you can't take knives, like concerts or airports etc.
but in general every day life, i have it... i dont view it as a weapon though it could be a means of self defense - i see it as a tool.
Opening boxes, containers, uncooperative wrappers, securing loads to the truck with rope or twine sometimes requires that the rope be cut to specific length, i have sliced off the insulation from wires for quick repairs and splices. there are countless uses for it.
Ducimus
03-02-11, 04:14 PM
Before i ended up as a cubicle dweller, i used to carry one of these around all the time on my belt:
http://www.broadarrow.net/leatherman.jpg
of course, back then, i had a real job, and was working hard. ( Now i have a virtual job, and am hardly working. :O: )
So no, I don't carry a pocket knife, or even a multi function tool anymore. Not much of a need for it when your ass is parked in a computer chair all day, and carrying anything with a blade on it would probably get me into trouble in an office enviorment.
Growler
03-02-11, 04:16 PM
Leatherman Kick. It was cheap, and carries the default necessary tools - phillips screwdriver, knife blade, slotted screwdriver, plier, wire snipper... think light utility tool. For anything else, I'd bring the tools for the task.
Smuggled a Swiss Army knife all the way through OSUT at Ft. Knox, when such things were considered contraband, but it was a gift and I wasn't turning it in during the amnesty. I think Top knew I had it, but he never called me on it.
GoldenRivet
03-02-11, 04:20 PM
Those leatherman tools are great, i used to carry one years ago. Switched to a pocket knife though because i found that many of the tool accessories on the leatherman tool were used very infrequently.
given the bulk, and that i most often used the blade or the pliers, i just switched to a pocket knife and threw a pair of needle nose pliers in the truck.
Ducimus
03-02-11, 04:21 PM
hehe my leatherman was issued to me. I acutally had (edit: HAVE) two of them. A regular leatherman, and a super leatherman. Had Gerber's version of a multifunction plier tool issued to me too. Being into construction and maintanence, they were VERY handy.
That's what happens when there's money left over at the end of the fiscal year, and the powers that be are worried about getting the same budget allotment for next year. :haha:
Against the law here in the UK unless you got a damn good reason and I mean a damn good reason. Knife crime here is a major problem.
Betonov
03-02-11, 04:43 PM
http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/victorinox/huntsman-penknife.jpg
always, Victorinox is the only brand I carry
Skybird
03-02-11, 05:02 PM
Since all my life.
First it was a Victorinox Something, then it was a Victorinox Champion, now it is the Victorinox Champion plus a Fenix PD30 plus a Samsung GT1150. I look like a cop. :haha:
Armistead
03-02-11, 05:24 PM
i wish i was, people are afraid of everything over here:damn:
Geesh, I know hundreds of trades that require sharp tools, paperhangers, carpet layers, builders, etc... Certainly you have these trades there and somehow they have to carry the tools to work and back.
I have lot's of pocket knives, my son loves using them out in the woods or backyard. Years ago in the 4th grade, he put on pants with a small pocket knife and went to school. He gave it to the teacher and explained, but was suspended for a week anyway, never been in trouble of any kind.
When I was in high school, late 70's, we didn't carry guns or knives into school, but many a pick up had a gun rack loaded with guns in the school parking lot, we all went hunting after school. They did finally stop it in 1980. Good thing, busing crap started about then and a small white rural school became mixed with the inner city an hour away. All hell broke out for two years and I guess we finally got use to each other. I still got several scars from being cut up with a box razor.
Geesh, I know hundreds of trades that require sharp tools, paperhangers, carpet layers, builders, etc... Certainly you have these trades there and somehow they have to carry the tools to work and back.
Carrying one in public "just in case" is a different thing than carrying one in public while working. ;)
Armistead
03-02-11, 05:41 PM
Carrying one in public "just in case" is a different thing than carrying one in public while working. ;)
Yea, but who judges the difference. I use to work 20 paperhangers, they all carry sharp razor knives. Course, I've seen some bad fights on jobsites in my 20 year in the business and believe me the trade workers know how to take advantage of their tools of the trade. Nothing like 10 paperhangers with razors taking on a group of illegal mexican framers with hammers...
In my pocket always is a victorinox swiss army knife: 2 blades, scissors, can opener, bottle opener/screwdriver, cork screw, metal saw/file, awl.
Hands down it is the most useful thing I own. I've had it since I was about 10 years old.
If I'm out hiking I always have a folding saw and a cheap fixed blade knife (mora craftline allround or bushcraft force) also I sometimes carry my billhook in my rucksack. You never know :03:
To me they are tools. Though I'm sure pc plod would like to prove otherwise.... pathetic country I live in.
Yea, but who judges the difference.
I believe the officer at the site makes the call. Like Morts and I both said, if there's no good reason to carry one in public it's deemed illegal, I'd say being at work where tool as such is probably needed is a pretty good reason. :up:
Penguin
03-02-11, 06:11 PM
Leatherman Wave. Actually blades, which you can open with one hand and are lockable, are forbidden to carry here unless you have a reason. I do use it for my work, however I often forget that it's still attached to my belt.
I hate the grip of the (older) bigger leatherman tools, nearly impossible to use force on the pliers without carrying gloves. The Wave grip is more rounded.
Only once some BKA guys (german FBI) wanted me to take it off, when I worked with a politician. So I carried instead a set of pliers and screwdrivers...:doh: This gave me actually more choices which tool I could use to stab him :haha:
Question to the UK folks: Is it also forbidden to carry a multitool - given you have a work reason to use it?
I used to always have one... this conversation makes me want to go out and buy a new one just to stick it to the man (or celebrate that I can).
Should not be a problem as I can carry a pistol if I like, LOL.
Rarely do. No real need to, I wouldn't use one for personal protection, too easy to get it reversed and used on you, my mother told me that and she did used to carry a knife (Bowie knife to be precise) and be rather good with throwing knives, but that's Deptford for you.
At work, if something needs cutting, I usually steal a bread knife or a steak knife. Plenty of knives in the kitchen, but at the moment the kitchen is boarded up so, no, no knives. :03:
EDIT: That being said, the other half does have a pocket knife, a flick one, which she uses for her model kits. So there is that. It's not spring loaded (I hate those...always think they'll flick out and take your finger off :haha:). but it's a nice design, and quite light. Blade could do with a spot of sharpening though.
Generally the rule of thumb here is you can carry a penknife/multitool without 'good reason' (other than it's useful) with a blade not exceeding 3 inches in length and which does not lock - leathermans and penknives can fall into this category. But this is subjective to how you might be 'using' it and the zealousness of the officer present.
Everything else you have to have 'good reason' for otherwise it's trouble if you get stopped with it.
But then again, having a screwdriver in your car door pocket could be seen as carrying an offensive weapon, or say a hatchet in your car boot and you're not using it for work or going some place to use it, like camping etc.
Fixed blades/locking blades and blades over 3" are verboten! unless you can prove reason to have it. Needless to say, so are flick/butterfly/fist knives as, apart for 'collectors', their only use is viewed as offensive.
Where I go hiking, I don't tend to see anyone about, but my other tools stay in the rucksack, unless I have to use them, all the same. Different if I'm camping in the usual places. I don't go waving them about, so the likelihood of me getting searched is minimal. And given that I have spare clothes/food & water/fire-lighting kit/canteen/waterproofs/tarp and other stuff in the pack, it's not like having a saw and a fixed blade knife is for use in anything other than mooching about in the great outdoors.
Most of the time the cops are interested in the chav with his small cheap kitchen knife shoved down his trousers, in town on a friday night. If you don't look the type of troublemaker it would be unlikely you'd be stopped in the first instance and given consideration for your reason to carry such an item, in the second.
On balance, I'd rather have it away on my toes, than use any of my knives as a weapon - it's just not how I see them at all and never has been.
However, there has been somewhat of a knee-jerk reaction regarding the laws about knives/firearms and anything else the nanny state thinks might possibly be dangerous, mainly due to some high media profile cases involving idiots and nutters, who obviously make up the vast majority of the population here... if you believe the papers :-?
Castout
03-02-11, 08:05 PM
I wan't to, but the school won't let me
:haha:
gimpy117
03-02-11, 08:11 PM
:haha:
some schools have strict policies about any kind of weapon on campus. I know we can't have knives over 3" at mine
frau kaleun
03-02-11, 09:11 PM
my mother told me that and she did used to carry a knife (Bowie knife to be precise) and be rather good with throwing knives, but that's Deptford for you.
I don't know why but this made me :rotfl2:
I guess it's because I now have this image in my mind of a sleepy little English village called "Deptford" where all the women practice throwing Bowie knives at things in their spare time.
At work, if something needs cutting, I usually steal a bread knife or a steak knife.
:o :stare: :cry:
As a budding connoisseur of the finely crafted kitchen knife I don't know whether to be horrified, annoyed, or just plain sad.
Do you know what that sort of thing does to a proper kitchen knife? For shame, sir, I say, FOR SHAME! :O:
In other news... now I want a pocket knife. :hmmm:
Platapus
03-02-11, 09:20 PM
A few years ago I visited a friend who was working for a TLA. In his office I saw him stabbing at packing boxes with a ball point pen trying to cut the tape.
I walked over to him and handed him my swiss army knife. His eyes got wide "you can't have that in this building!"
What? A swiss army knife? I have been carrying a swiss army knife since I was 8 years old.
Guess I am violating federal law by packing a weapon of mass destruction to work.
This is the one I carry every day
http://www.swissarmy.com/MultiTools/Pages/Product.aspx?category=lockblades&product=54854&
I have others that I carry for other occasions.
http://www.emersonknives.com/ekEK_Karambit.php
Onkel Neal
03-02-11, 09:29 PM
No, I already have too much to carry and I don't find myself needing to cut things that often. Maybe if I was a farmer or construction worker I would need it.
TLAM Strike
03-02-11, 09:40 PM
I wan't to, but the school won't let me
Same here. For the past few years I've carried a Dollar store imitation Swiss army knife for opening boxes and fixing stuff at work. Now my college doesn't allow knifes or other weapons on campus so I don't carry it anymore.
Funny thing is I can carry an exacto knife for one of my classes. That thing is more dangrous than my crappy knife.
Feuer Frei!
03-02-11, 09:50 PM
I don't carry a pocket knife, never been that 'type of guy'.
Plus it's illegal here where i live.
I do have a tiny swiss knife on my keyring for cutting loose threads off clothing or anything that might need a trim, but that's as close as i get to the 'real thing'.
Gargamel
03-02-11, 11:07 PM
Yes.
Swiss Armoy Scout knife.
McGyver Style.
Madox58
03-02-11, 11:25 PM
I carry one of those things that make AirCraft hit Tall Buildings.
And I thought my Gerber Boot and Belt was bad!
:nope:
Maybe if I felt that things were peachy keen?
I would not carry a knife.
But I'll be damned if I'm ever caught unarmed in this day and age!
(The sword is just to big to carry around until December 2012)
:haha:
Bubblehead Nuke
03-02-11, 11:34 PM
I always loved the 'You can't carry a dangerous weapon' rules.
Like it has to be sharp or pointy to be deadly ond/or dangerous.
Such nonsense is coming here in the USA soon enough the way we are going...
A few years ago I visited a friend who was working for a TLA. In his office I saw him stabbing at packing boxes with a ball point pen trying to cut the tape.
I walked over to him and handed him my swiss army knife. His eyes got wide "you can't have that in this building!"
What? A swiss army knife? I have been carrying a swiss army knife since I was 8 years old.
Guess I am violating federal law by packing a weapon of mass destruction to work.
This is the one I carry every day
http://www.swissarmy.com/MultiTools/Pages/Product.aspx?category=lockblades&product=54854&
I have others that I carry for other occasions.
http://www.emersonknives.com/ekEK_Karambit.php
It's surprising how some people get a bit shifty if you use your swiss knife in the office (or wherever at work) - most commonly used by me for cutting open rolls of AO paper for the plotters... "you can't use that here, it's a knife! They're dangerous."
Safer than the blunt scalpel in the stationary cupboard, any day of the week.
The closest to mine (from your first link) is this: http://www.swissarmy.com/MultiTools/Pages/Product.aspx?category=originalswissarmyknives&product=54821& but without the hook thing. It's a bit battered now: the spring broke on the scissors many years ago, both the toothpick and tweezers are missing, the end of the file point broke off, the reamer broke through the sewing eye and the key-ring and the pressed metal badge fell out.... and finally I had to epoxy bond the plastic scales at both ends to hold them in place.
I have thought about replacing it with a new one, this thread made me check out a few sites, but it's such a faithful old friend it hardly seems fair to cast it aside for a younger model :DL
Castout
03-03-11, 12:05 AM
some schools have strict policies about any kind of weapon on campus. I know we can't have knives over 3" at mine
I know I think all school would ban knives or put them as contraband even here. I don't see a reason why a student would want to bring knife. So I think Tyrant was just being funny :DL...or genuinely you know funny....which is spooky :hmmm:
nikimcbee
03-03-11, 12:12 AM
I've got my fishing knife I carry once in a while. It's just more stuff in my pocket.:shifty:
Sailor Steve
03-03-11, 11:13 AM
IAs a budding connoisseur of the finely crafted kitchen knife I don't know whether to be horrified, annoyed, or just plain sad.
Do you know what that sort of thing does to a proper kitchen knife? For shame, sir, I say, FOR SHAME! :O:
So I guess opening tin cans with a serrated bread knife is right out?
I used to have one like this
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Buck.jpg?t=1299168679
but it always felt heavy in my pocket, so when it finally wore out and died I got one like this
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a325/SailorSteve/Buck2.jpg?t=1299168744
and it's always with me wherever I go.
Herr-Berbunch
03-03-11, 11:51 AM
When I was in a rapid-deployable forces unit we all used to have Leatherman or Gerber multitools on our belts, at our own expense. It wasn't an official tool, so didn't strictly meet the uniform requirements but a blind eye was always turned. Also we weren't officially allowed to use it on any kit, but again a blind eye was turned, nobody was going to bollock us for using it if the alternative was a 20+ km round trip for the proper tool! :D
When I moved to a desk job it was resigned to the back of my wardrobe for the few weeks before Iraq in 2003, then I left in 2005 and gave it away to a new colleague - like saying goodbye to an old friend, it'd travelled to 18 different countries with me :wah:
frau kaleun
03-03-11, 12:28 PM
So I guess opening tin cans with a serrated bread knife is right out?
*faints dead away*
Growler
03-03-11, 12:43 PM
*faints dead away*
Don't fall on your knife.
So I guess opening tin cans with a serrated bread knife is right out?
Doesn't everyone have one of these close at hand?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/P-38_Can_Opener.jpg/800px-P-38_Can_Opener.jpg
Armistead
03-03-11, 01:23 PM
I once ordered one of those mass knife packages on TV, you know 400 different knives for $60. The fixed blades were decent, but all the lock blades, threw them away, less someone using it got their fingers cut off cause they seldom locked.
Platapus
03-03-11, 02:38 PM
I used to always have one... this conversation makes me want to go out and buy a new one just to stick it to the man (or celebrate that I can).
Should not be a problem as I can carry a pistol if I like, LOL.
That can actually depend on the state. In Virginia you can get a permit to carry a handgun but not a permit to carry a larger knife. :doh:
Platapus
03-03-11, 02:39 PM
Doesn't everyone have one of these close at hand?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dd/P-38_Can_Opener.jpg/800px-P-38_Can_Opener.jpg
A p-38 saved my crew once. We had to clear out a fuel line blockage on our M-35 and no one had any tools. Good ole P-38, you can fix anything from a rifle to a B-52 with it. :D
MaddogK
03-03-11, 03:42 PM
Don't carry a p-38 anymore, it sliced my pocket up (and my leg) more times than I care to remember.
But this can be found on my belt
http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/schrade/images/lb5S.jpg
I can wear my holster (with pistol ;) ) openly in NM with no permit. I can walk around with a rifle slung, too.
I always (well, most of the times I'm outside my home) have this with me:
http://www.ckbproducts.com/images/fire-fighter-knife.jpg
I could tell you that I carry it coz "it is recommended for ppl who drive a car etc coz it has this tool to cut the seat belts etc' but I just take it bcoz there are plenty of freaks carrying different stuff like knives etc so I prefer to feel safe. I used to carry a Victorinox when I was younger but it's a sux knife for 'self defence'. This one looks pretty nice(even though it's a pretty cheap sh..). It has that kinda bolt to open it with one hand. There are no regulations concerning carrying a knife in public places so I can take it to the university etc. Well, I just don;t feel safe there :D
Growler
03-03-11, 11:12 PM
A p-38 saved my crew once. We had to clear out a fuel line blockage on our M-35 and no one had any tools. Good ole P-38, you can fix anything from a rifle to a B-52 with it. :D
I've worn out, bent, broken, lost, or given away so many of those things, I feel like a freakin' Quartermaster (Army variant).
bookworm_020
03-04-11, 03:28 AM
Can't carry a knife here in Australia, as it is illegal. Swiss Army nifes are fine but combat/survival knives aren't
I don't know why but this made me :rotfl2:
I guess it's because I now have this image in my mind of a sleepy little English village called "Deptford" where all the women practice throwing Bowie knives at things in their spare time.
:o :stare: :cry:
As a budding connoisseur of the finely crafted kitchen knife I don't know whether to be horrified, annoyed, or just plain sad.
Do you know what that sort of thing does to a proper kitchen knife? For shame, sir, I say, FOR SHAME! :O:
In other news... now I want a pocket knife. :hmmm:
:haha: You're not far off, most of the denizens of Deptford carry a weapon of some sort :haha:
Yes, although I must admit, the bread knife still cuts the toast quite well, and nearly my thumb a couple of times too. :hmmm:
NeonSamurai
03-04-11, 08:56 AM
Can't carry a knife here in Australia, as it is illegal. Swiss Army nifes are fine but combat/survival knives aren't
Anyone else see the irony in that, the land of ol crocodile Dundee.. mr. "thats not a knife"
Anyhow as for the kitchen knifes being used for other purposes. I know if anyone ever EVER touched mine (heck even in the kitchen), I would assuredly skin, fillet, and de-bone them.
im unsure if its illegal, but most of the time i carry this in one of my pockets
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/IMAG1402.jpg?t=1299249250
along with this
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/morty-dk/IMAG1406.jpg?t=1299249258
I used to carry a Swiss Army Knife that has all sorts of computer repair oriented tools (I am often called on to do on-the-spot IT services when then designated IT staff isn't available). A former co-worker went on a ski trip to Switzerland several years ago and I jokingly said "Bring me back a Swiss Army Knife"; much to my surprise, he did! He said I had saved him in a few pressing situations with my IT skills and the knife was his way of thanking me. I carried the knife for quite some time after that and used it as my main tool for IT repairs. However, after 9/11, security in many buildings became so tight I found it difficult to enter while carrying my knife. This was particularly true in the building I was working in at the time since it was a local county headquarters. I was familiar to most of the guards and they didn't bother me about the knife, but I would run into the occasional new guard on duty and would have a bit of a problem until some other known guard would intervene on my behalf. After a while I just stopped carrying the knife and instead carried a "normal" tool kit. The irony is the kit contained items that were more capable of damage or deadly results than the knife they would not allow me to bring in to the building. I still have and use the knife, mainly at home.
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