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TLAM Strike
02-23-11, 10:48 AM
... and its name is Boeing? (http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/east-hampshire/navy_to_buy_new_aircraft_1_2437696)
Navy to buy new aircraft
Published on Tue Feb 22 13:07:21 GMT 2011
THE Royal Navy is looking to buy a fleet of maritime patrol aircraft for up to £1 billion just weeks after the Ministry of Defence scrapped the new Nimrod aircraft at a cost of £3.6 billion.
The MoD confirmed last week that the navy wanted to buy its own maritime patrol aircraft to track enemy submarines to replace the Nimrods, which are being broken up for scrap.
The new RAF Nimrod MRA4s had not even come into service when the prime minister announced last October that as part of the strategic defence review he was scrapping Nimrod.
The navy, which was furious that RAF bosses had agreed to get rid of Nimrod at a time of increased submarine activity, has already set up a team to buy a replacement and ensure that it is flown by the Fleet Air Arm. The programme is being run by Commodore Simon Kings with a team made up of naval officers.
Its got to be the Boeing P-8. That is the only western MPA in development. Either that or that new Kawasaki P-1.
... and its name is Boeing? (http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/east-hampshire/navy_to_buy_new_aircraft_1_2437696)
Its got to be the Boeing P-8. That is the only western MPA in development. Either that or that new Kawasaki P-1. Good news for U.K
Tchocky
02-23-11, 11:23 AM
Would like to see the P-1, nice looking bird
Weiss Pinguin
02-23-11, 12:04 PM
Would like to see the P-1, nice looking bird
Can't beat the P-3 for looks IMO :yep:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9484/airp3harpoonstorpedosid.jpg
Herr-Berbunch
02-23-11, 12:12 PM
Not a Boeing XP-8?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fd/Boeing_xp-8.jpg/300px-Boeing_xp-8.jpg
Still - better than nothing :nope:
TLAM Strike
02-23-11, 12:14 PM
Can't beat the P-3 for looks IMO :yep:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9484/airp3harpoonstorpedosid.jpg
You sure about that?
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2471/airil38undersidelg.jpg
You sure about that?
Cheap Russian knock off... :yep:
Sailor Steve
02-23-11, 12:21 PM
Not a Boeing XP-8?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fd/Boeing_xp-8.jpg/300px-Boeing_xp-8.jpg
Still - better than nothing :nope:
:rock:
I'm a huge fan of the '20s and '30s. Many years ago I even built models of the Curtiss P-1 series.
TLAM Strike
02-23-11, 12:29 PM
Cheap Russian knock off... :yep:
Not really the aircraft they were based on the Il-18 and the Lockheed L-188 Electra both had their first flights the same year. It just took the Russians longer to decide to build an MPA version.
Schroeder
02-23-11, 12:58 PM
:rock:
I'm a huge fan of the '20s and '30s. Many years ago I even built models of the Curtiss P-1 series.
That's because you've lived through them.
:D
Hope that wasn't too mean now....:stare:
AVGWarhawk
02-23-11, 01:03 PM
That's because you've lived through them.
:D
Hope that wasn't too mean now....:stare:
:har:
Weiss Pinguin
02-23-11, 02:05 PM
Not really the aircraft they were based on the Il-18 and the Lockheed L-188 Electra both had their first flights the same year. It just took the Russians longer to decide to build an MPA version.
Wow, good looking and the first one in :smug:
But I'm kinda biased... my dad flew Orions so I got to see them a lot. On a side note, a while back we (he and I) went to a Coast Guard auxiliary meeting and met a guy who used to fly P-2s:
http://www.farfromglory.com/images/p2neptune.jpg
TLAM Strike
02-23-11, 02:19 PM
Wow, good looking and the first one in :smug:
But I'm kinda biased... my dad flew Orions so I got to see them a lot. On a side note, a while back we (he and I) went to a Coast Guard auxiliary meeting and met a guy who used to fly P-2s:
http://www.farfromglory.com/images/p2neptune.jpg
You should have asked that P-2V Driver if he did any carrier launches...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/P2V_launch_CVB-42_1951.jpg
A Lockheed P2V Neptune launches with "Jet-assisted take-off (JATO)" from the aircraft carrier USS Franklin D. Roosevelt (CVB-42) on 2 July 1951.But if you want to talk about old school ASW aircraft, you can't top the Grumman AF Guardian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_AF_Guardian). A plane with so much equipment they needed to bring an extra plane along just to carry it all...
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1508/af2waf2svs25.jpg
"So much crap they had to start a second pile."
EDIT: I knew a guy who flew aboard P5M Marlins during the Cuban Missile Crisis era. According to him they put a dipping sonar aboard the flying boat so they could land on the water and hunt for submarines. There is something the P-3 can't do!
Lets get a little love for the Pea Shooter in here:
http://www.airbum.com/photos/BoeingP-26Peashooter.jpg
:rock:
On the topic at hand though, it's good news, heck the way things are in the RN right now I think we'd take anything, so it's good that at least it's from a reliable source. (Airbus fans disagree in five...four...three... :haha:)
frau kaleun
02-23-11, 02:25 PM
http://www.airbum.com/photos/BoeingP-26Peashooter.jpg
:hmmm:
Needz moar colours.
And on a related note, OMG MY EYES!! :o :doh: :dead:
Tchocky
02-23-11, 02:28 PM
That was the normal colour scheme for that time I believe.
Nice to know there was a time when at least one of the armed services was totally fabulous
TLAM Strike
02-23-11, 02:50 PM
OMG MY EYES!! :o :doh: :dead:
I think that is what they were going for. Imagine if you were in a Messerschmidt or a Zero and you saw that coming at you. You would be paralyzed in horror...
:03:
That was the normal colour scheme for that time I believe.
Actually it is jazzed up a little.
This is the "standard issue" scheme.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Fairchild_PT-19_Cornell_USAF.jpg
Weiss Pinguin
02-23-11, 03:44 PM
Actually it is jazzed up a little.
It varied from squadron to squadron most times, in some cases I think some units did have paintschemes that righteous. And then some had more boring green or brown variations.
Edit: Here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5c/Boeing_P-26A_USAF.jpg/800px-Boeing_P-26A_USAF.jpg) is (according to wikipedia) a replica painted up as the CO's bird of the 19th PS. And here (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b4/P26a.jpg/800px-P26a.jpg) is P-26A c/n 1911 33-135, marked up for the 34th attack squadron
:hmmm:
nikimcbee
02-23-11, 03:48 PM
so it wasn't jebus then?
krashkart
02-23-11, 04:28 PM
Wow, good looking and the first one in :smug:
But I'm kinda biased... my dad flew Orions so I got to see them a lot. On a side note, a while back we (he and I) went to a Coast Guard auxiliary meeting and met a guy who used to fly P-2s:
http://www.farfromglory.com/images/p2neptune.jpg
The Navy found an additional use for the Neptunes during the Vietnam war. :DL
http://airwarvietnam.com/vo67.htm
Quite an interesting history of this squadron. Official(?) page:
http://www.vo-67.org/vo67_opening.html
EDIT
Hang on, I got VO-67 mixed up with the one I was thinking of... it's VAH-21 that I wanted to post about. :oops:
http://www.vah21.com/
*sigh*
More fun reading material at least. :yeah:
FURTHER EDIT:
Historical note - VO-67 supported Khe Sanh during the siege in early 1968 by dropping sensors into the jungle around the base. Those sensors helped pinpoint enemy movements, and subsequent strikes could be sent in to tear things up.
VAH-21 was a Navy experiment. They patrolled the Ho Chi Mihn Trail at night with a mixture of snakes and napalm (and miniguns). From what I've read they didn't lose a single crew, despite the defenses they flew into.
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