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Gerald
02-21-11, 02:34 AM
of the new Zeppelin age.

When the Hindenburg blew up in 1937, so did the airship industry. So why is Britain building a fleet of the world's biggest, for the Americans, in our old Zeppelin sheds?
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/993/article13577470d42061f0.jpg (http://img231.imageshack.us/i/article13577470d42061f0.jpg/)
A Hybrid Air Vehicles prototype; the first ships are due to be completed in 2012

2015: Regent’s Park International Airport

A line of limousines and taxis snakes its way into the Royal Park to deliver 300 well-heeled passengers and their smart luggage to the discreet air terminal. They are in no rush because the flight they are about to board to New York will take two days.

Moored on the grass outside the terminal is a 600ft long behemoth, a vast Hybrid Air Vehicle. A cross between a balloon and an aircraft wing, this new-wave blimp is filled with non-flammable helium and air. Slung beneath is a vast passenger cabin akin to a miniature first-class cruise ship with dining rooms, a ballroom, bars and a casino.For the same price as a club-class plane ticket, these 300 discerning travellers will eat, sip cocktails and dance as they float serenely across the Atlantic.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1357747/Airships-Pioneering-Brits-heralding-dawn-new-Zeppelin-age.html


Note: Last updated at 2:06 AM on 21st February 2011

Gerald
02-21-11, 06:58 AM
What, me spending so "much" job on posting it here 23, viewer.och not a sound...

Respenus
02-21-11, 07:22 AM
I hope this actually becomes a reality. Damn, I'll newer take a plane if they fill Europe's skies with these beauties.

Gerald
02-21-11, 07:25 AM
I hope this actually becomes a reality. Damn, I'll newer take a plane if they fill Europe's skies with these beauties. really new opportunities :DL

Penguin
02-21-11, 07:27 AM
What, me spending so "much" job on posting it here 23, viewer.och not a sound...
Vendor, no problem, den jävla Pingvinen är här nu! ;)


I think they do look like some sexy ships, but I am very sceptic that this enterprise will be a success.
The Germans tried it 10 years ago with the Cargolifter, a ship that should be used mainly for the transport of freight (who would have guessed by the name?) They filed for bankrupcy 2,3 years after their foundation and their construction plans were bought by the Zeppelin company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CargoLifter
We still have Zeppelin manufacture airships, but they sold the huge amount of 4 zeppelins in the past 14 years...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_NT

The main reasons why the Cargolifter project failed, are still existent today: the ships are extremly vunurable to weather conditions, the payload is small and the speed is relative slow. The only thing that changed over the past years is a skyrocketing of energy/raw material prices, so that would be the only niche were I would see a use for them: the exploration of inaccessible areas in the search for raw materials.

I love those big-ass airships however and would love them to have a renaissance, so good luck for the next effort to bring them back!

Gammelpreusse
02-21-11, 07:29 AM
I Love Zeppelins. Always did. I sincerely hope to see them up in the skies again in their old sizes and glory once again. I would give my left arm to have seen the Hindenburg in the air and considered it a great shame the Cargolifter concept never really made it.

Thumbs up, Tommies, sincerely hope you get those things up and running again and maybe jump start a world wide trend! =)

Gerald
02-21-11, 07:31 AM
Vendor, no problem, den jävla Pingvinen är här nu! ;)


I think they do look like some sexy ships, but I am very sceptic that this enterprise will be a success.
The Germans tried it 10 years ago with the Cargolifter, a ship that should be used mainly for the transport of freight (who would have guessed by the name?) They filed for bankrupcy 2,3 years after their foundation and their construction plans were bought by the Zeppelin company.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CargoLifter
We still have Zeppelin manufacture airships, but they sold the huge amount of 4 zeppelins in the past 14 years...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin_NT

The main reasons why the Cargolifter project failed, are still existent today: the ships are extremly vunurable to weather conditions, the payload is small and the speed is relative slow. The only thing that changed over the past years is a skyrocketing of energy/raw material prices, so that would be the only niche were I would see a use for them: the exploration of inaccessible areas in the search for raw materials.

I love those big-ass airships however and would love them to have a renaissance, so good luck for the next effort to bring them back! I'm glad for it, thanks, but you are not a "damn" Penguin and will never become one! :yeah:

HunterICX
02-21-11, 07:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A8eiA1jhXc

You'll want to become a pirate :arrgh!:

HunterICX

Penguin
02-21-11, 07:44 AM
I Love Zeppelins. Always did. I sincerely hope to see them up in the skies again in their old sizes and glory once again. I would give my left arm to have seen the Hindenburg in the air [...]


I really nope you didn't watch the Hindenburg movie which was recently on RTL - what an insult to all Zeppelin fans! :nope:
They also want to sell this flic to other countries - so be aware international community!


I'm glad for it, thanks, but you are not a "damn" Penguin and will never become one! :yeah:


:up: thanks, just want to throw in my 2 öre as nobody had answered to your thread! :D

Gerald
02-21-11, 07:47 AM
I really nope you didn't watch the Hindenburg movie which was recently on RTL - what an insult to all Zeppelin fans! :nope:
They also want to sell this flic to other countries - so be aware international community!




:up: thanks, just want to throw in my 2 öre as nobody had answered to your thread! :D Great, det får bli 1 krona då, minsta valören förnärvarande :DL

Penguin
02-21-11, 08:03 AM
Great, det får bli 1 krona då, minsta valören förnärvarande :DL

Yes, I know, but then the saying "throwing in 2 cents" doesn't make any sense...;)
(still having some 50 öre coins at home, I will cut them in 25 pieces to thrwo in my 2 öre :DL)

Gerald
02-21-11, 08:09 AM
Yes, I know, but then the saying "throwing in 2 cents" doesn't make any sense...;)
(still having some 50 öre coins at home, I will cut them in 25 pieces to thrwo in my 2 öre :DL) :haha:

Gerald
02-21-11, 08:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A8eiA1jhXc

You'll want to become a pirate :arrgh!:

HunterICX Cool,Crimson Skies!

Gammelpreusse
02-21-11, 10:08 AM
I really nope you didn't watch the Hindenburg movie which was recently on RTL - what an insult to all Zeppelin fans! :nope:
They also want to sell this flic to other countries - so be aware international community!


Guilty as charged, watched it and I gotta puke so often I lost count of it.

She ship was gloriously rendered, though, so I will wait for a version cutting all the Zep scenes together without the rest.

Do you know the documentary of the diary of Lady Grace Drummond-Hay?
Ran on Arte and Phoenix a bit ago. Great material to imagine how it must have been on board.

Chances are low we'll ever see such grace again in the air as the Hindenburg resembled, but anyways, the concept alone is so incredible inspiring, I seriously hope we will see those giants back in the air some day.

Oberon
02-21-11, 11:57 AM
Somewhere in deepest darkest Israel, there is a Subsim member booking a ticket... :03::yep:

papa_smurf
02-21-11, 12:34 PM
Would be nice if this would take off (pardon the pun), and be successful.

Raptor1
02-21-11, 01:54 PM
Somewhere in deepest darkest Israel, there is a Subsim member booking a ticket... :03::yep:

Ticket? We'll take our prop planes and hijack the thing in the air! :stare:

Oberon
02-21-11, 02:23 PM
Ticket? We'll take our prop planes and hijack the thing in the air! :stare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTzGQfHBFI&feature=related

TheSatyr
02-21-11, 03:06 PM
I hope they have better luck than England had in the past with Airships. Google R-101. Government meddling at it's best.

Schöneboom
02-21-11, 03:23 PM
Years ago I read this feasibility study on airships and the niche they might occupy in our economy (pdf linked):

http://journals.oregondigital.org/trforum/article/viewFile/806/701

I, too, want to believe airships will make a comeback. Some of us wouldn't mind a more leisurely trip if it also means more space & comfort.

TorpX
02-21-11, 11:28 PM
I wonder how long it will be before Somali pirates hijack one and hold it for ransom?

Freiwillige
02-22-11, 01:36 AM
Im just thinking of the next blockbuster movie theme.

SKYTANIC! Well have to have some super disaster on its maiden voyage how about frozen clouds, yea yea well call them skyburgs. Skyburg ahead captian! Has a ring to it, lets go with it. Then well have it floating across the north Atlantic and other airships will send out Skyburg warnings but the captain wont heed the warnings cause his airship is un uninflatable. Next well have the front half deflate slowly after bumping a Skyburg and the weight will tear the ship into half and the back half will then sink into the sky! And the life rafts can be.....

Yes I can make millions:88)

Rilder
02-22-11, 01:45 AM
I would kill to ride on a Zeppelin.:DL

UnderseaLcpl
02-22-11, 02:10 AM
This will never work. I remember reading about a few pioneering airship entrepeneurs and firms almost a decade ago in Popular Science or somesuch. While airships do have some advantages in the area of heavy VTOL capability, there is absolutely no reason to ever establish any kind of anything in an area that couldn't be better served by rail or sea transport. It's just too inefficient, even by very slow, very fuel-efficient, very windblown, very vulnerable, very weak, very insurance-heavy airship.

Gerald
02-22-11, 08:26 AM
Today's technology is different, more secure.

TorpX
02-23-11, 12:59 AM
Im just thinking of the next blockbuster movie theme.

SKYTANIC! Well have to have some super disaster on its maiden voyage how about frozen clouds, yea yea well call them skyburgs. Skyburg ahead captian! Has a ring to it, lets go with it. Then well have it floating across the north Atlantic and other airships will send out Skyburg warnings but the captain wont heed the warnings cause his airship is un uninflatable. Next well have the front half deflate slowly after bumping a Skyburg and the weight will tear the ship into half and the back half will then sink into the sky! And the life rafts can be.....

Yes I can make millions:88)
That's the ticket.
All you need is a love triangle and a hot Hollywood actress. :)