US Bans smoking on submarines

[August]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110214/ap_on_he_me/as_japan_us_smokeless_subs

By ERIC TALMADGE, Associated Press Eric Talmadge, Associated Press – Mon Feb 14, 5:41 am ET YOKOSUKA, Japan – As if life on a submarine wasn't already stressful enough, with its cramped quarters, long work hours and weeks at sea, thousands of smokers on the U.S. Navy's submarine fleet recently got an unwelcome ultimatum from Uncle Sam.
As of last month, all submarines in the U.S. Navy are officially smoke free — and it's been a tense transition.


Tense as a mooses butt during fly season i'll bet! :D

[Takeda Shingen]

Well, I'm sure that someone will come along and complain about the hated 'PC-ness' with the statistic that the air on US submarines is completely filted over something like 800,000 times per hour, but I think it's good that non-smokers don't have to worry about breathing in someone else's carcinogens all the same.

[UnderseaLcpl]

......And smokeless tobacco wins again!:yeah:

[Jimbuna]

I appreciate smokers won't be happy but surely they saw this coming :hmmm:

[bookworm_020]

Hope there is free nicotine patches for hands that need them, otherwise conditions could get really bad....:|\\

[Bubblehead Nuke]

Well, I'm sure that someone will come along and complain about the hated 'PC-ness' with the statistic that the air on US submarines is completely filted over something like 800,000 times per hour, but I think it's good that non-smokers don't have to worry about breathing in someone else's carcinogens all the same.

I hate to break it to you, but cigarette smoke might as well be the 'breathe of life' itself when compared to the OTHER carcinogens that are in the atmosphere on board.

The chemicals used in the CO2 scrubbers is NASTY, the diesel fumes, the oil fumes from the various lubricants used throughout the boat. Lets not start on the monopropellants used in the torpedoes.

Did you know that a can of pressurized SHAVING CREAM has enough contaminates that technically you should surface ventilate should you shave your face.

How about that waxing of the decks that you do underway?

I WISH I could tell you about some of the stuff we had back aft.

I could go on and on and on.

The ban on smoking is a PC move. Nothing more.

[Ducimus]

Hope there is free nicotine patches for hands that need them, otherwise conditions could get really bad....:|\\

Dip and Chewing tabacco will substitute. Their's more nicotine in that anyway.

(Ex tabacco user myself. I've dipped snuff, chewed tabacco, and smoked. Don't anymore, but when i in the service i did)

[GT182]

I can see the claw marks on the walls now. LOL

Imagine all the smokers on deck when they surface out at sea. It'd be like the Indians sending up smoke signals. :haha:

[TLAM Strike]

Imagine all the smokers on deck when they surface out at sea. It'd be like the Indians sending up smoke signals. :haha:

If the first hint the other guys get that a submarine is about is when it surfaces next to them and the crew lights up they are doing alright... :03:

[Rilder]

Hopefully there aren't any captains that smoke, they'd be ordering the sub to surface in a middle of an enemy fleet so he can have a smoke.

Also, so much for passing weed out to the crew to help them relax while the sub is being depth charged. :rotfl2:

[Aramike]

Like most things, whether or not you like this will likely depend upon your personal interests and habits. Non-smokers will probably appreciate this while smokers will be incensed.

I know that most boats are fairly small, but it seems to be that they're certainly large enough to set aside an area for smokers to light up. Compromise, maybe?

Oh well ... "rules is rules".

[August]

Hopefully there aren't any captains that smoke, they'd be ordering the sub to surface in a middle of an enemy fleet so he can have a smoke.

Also, so much for passing weed out to the crew to help them relax while the sub is being depth charged. :rotfl2:

Yeah that's what we want. Stoned sailors with their fingers on the trigger of enough ordinance to wipe out all life on the planet.

[Gerald]

A good decision to ban smoking, :agree:

[Takeda Shingen]

I hate to break it to you, but cigarette smoke might as well be the 'breathe of life' itself when compared to the OTHER carcinogens that are in the atmosphere on board.

The chemicals used in the CO2 scrubbers is NASTY, the diesel fumes, the oil fumes from the various lubricants used throughout the boat. Lets not start on the monopropellants used in the torpedoes.

Did you know that a can of pressurized SHAVING CREAM has enough contaminates that technically you should surface ventilate should you shave your face.

How about that waxing of the decks that you do underway?

I WISH I could tell you about some of the stuff we had back aft.

I could go on and on and on.

The ban on smoking is a PC move. Nothing more.

Called it.

[Gerald]

Dip and Chewing tabacco will substitute. Their's more nicotine in that anyway.

(Ex tabacco user myself. I've dipped snuff, chewed tabacco, and smoked. Don't anymore, but when i in the service i did) Which surely many will take the place of smoking, and as you say a substitute, which can be difficult to do away with late.

[Bubblehead Nuke]

Called it.

You baited it..


...I just gave my two cents.

[Takeda Shingen]

You baited it..


...I just gave my two cents.

It was a prediction; nothing more. 11 years of reading GT and things become pretty formulaic. Your two cents are always welcome, though.

[Tchocky]

I'll just say this, if you're going to ban smoking on subs, give the poor bastards a year's notice.

[Bubblehead1980]

I think it's a good move...less smoking the better.

[Spoon 11th]

Electric cigarettes FTW.

[Takeda Shingen]

Electric cigarettes FTW.

I see commercials for them, but is their second hand 'smoke' safe? Everything that I have read about them is pretty ambiguous in that regard.

[Bubblehead Nuke]

I see commercials for them, but is their second hand 'smoke' safe? Everything that I have read about them is pretty ambiguous in that regard.

Seeing how the carrier fluid is propylene glycol, there is nothing too toxic about them. At least not compared to may other airborne contaminates. The carrier fluid contains nicotine that is vaporized and thus inhaled. There are no tars or other toxic gases released

My wife moved over to them about a year ago. The house smells MUCH better and there is much left 'dust' and such in the computer cases. I much prefer them to the real thing (speaking as a non-smoker).

She tried to quit using various aids. She had HORRIFIC nightmares and othe side effects. She was actually afraid to go to sleep. She found the smokeless cigarettes soon aftwerwards.

[Skybird]

Russian navy is cursing - nicotine scanners of theirs all of a sudden rendered useless! :salute:

[Armistead]

Geesh, remember when I was a kid you could hardly breath at the movies from all the cigarette smoke.

Cancer from cigarettes is a billion dollar industry and will always be around.

Do they really allow chewing tobacco on subs...I would think that would have to go, all that slipping on the floor and turned over spit cups on sensitive equipment.

[TLAM Strike]

Russian navy is cursing - nicotine scanners of theirs all of a sudden rendered useless! :salute:
So that is what these sensors on the Akula were for!
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/194/72585311.jpg

I wonder if our Vodka detecting sensor net is still in operation? :hmmm:

[Ducimus]

Do they really allow chewing tobacco on subs...I would think that would have to go, all that slipping on the floor and turned over spit cups on sensitive equipment.

I'm guessing that anywhere were your allowed to have a soda, a cup of water, etc, you can probably dip or chew.

And there's a Trick to making a spitoon that doesn't spill so easily. What you do is take a 1 liter soda bottle. Cut the top off with your handy dandy multi function tool, about 2 to 3 inch's down from the top, so you have some of the body of the bottle with the top. Grab a paper towel or three, wad them up, and stuff it in the decapitated 1 liter soda bottle. Then take your top, flip it over so its upside down and smash it down into the soda bottle so the opening youd normally wrap your lips around is inside the bottle.

If you did it right, you should have a pretty tight seal. It's not leak proof, but it'll do just nicey if it gets bumped around. Your new flipped over top, acts as a natural spitoon, the paper towels help absorb some of the liquid that's going to accumulate there, and since its not wide open, it keeps some of the stink down. You have to stick your nose to it to smell it. Normal spit cups can reek after awhile. Another great thing about this setup, is its EASILy recongizeable from say... a normal soda can. (Yeah, I've seen that unmentionable mistake happen at a barracks party )

That setup works great for dip. Chewing tabbacco.. it wont last very long. Chew makes you juice a helluva lot more then snuff or dip.

[Armistead]

Yea, I know,

I chewed Levi Garret for 18 years. I never put a cigarette or chew in my mouth until I was about 23 and went through my first divorce. Started with cigarettes for a month, but I hated smoke....after a few hours of being high and slightly sick off chew, crap became more addictive than I ever knew. It took about 12K of dental work about 8 years ago that I able to give it up. Chits hell on the gums and teeth

[Sailor Steve]

A long time ago I was in a band with two guys who chewed. They used empty Big Gulp cups to spit in. One practice one of them accidentally spat into someone else's drink. Guess whose? Worse, guess how I found out?

[Ducimus]

Yea, I know,

I chewed Levi Garret for 18 years. I never put a cigarette or chew in my mouth until I was about 23 and went through my first divorce. Started with cigarettes for a month, but I hated smoke....after a few hours of being high and slightly sick off chew, crap became more addictive than I ever knew. It took about 12K of dental work about 8 years ago that I able to give it up. Chits hell on the gums and teeth


What got me to quit was i had a gum graft done because of a receeding gum line. Looking back on it now, i don't think it was tabacco related, but it did the trick. The real reason i think it was done, was because that Air Force doctor was getting out soon and he was building up his portfoloio. The before and after pictures he was taking was kind of a clue.

[August]

A long time ago I was in a band with two guys who chewed. They used empty Big Gulp cups to spit in. One practice one of them accidentally spat into someone else's drink. Guess whose? Worse, guess how I found out?

It was your buddies and he spewed it all back up on you?

[Jimbuna]

A long time ago I was in a band with two guys who chewed. They used empty Big Gulp cups to spit in. One practice one of them accidentally spat into someone else's drink. Guess whose? Worse, guess how I found out?

LOL Steve :DL.....I could be sick at the thought :doh:

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4341/roflpukecc9oe0.gif

[Armistead]

Well, nothings worse than spilling a big cup full of bacca spit on your keyboard.

My wife use to raise hell, cause I would spit in her plants.

[Tchocky]

Well, nothings worse than spilling a big cup full of bacca spit on your keyboard.

My wife use to raise hell, cause I would spit in her plants.


WOOOOAH! TIME OUT!




ah, misread. Continue.

[Armistead]

WOOOOAH! TIME OUT!




ah, misread. Continue.

Gotta watch for those "l's"