Diet fizz linked to heart attacks

[STEED]

The study of more than 2,500 people found that those who consumed diet drinks every day had a 61% higher chance of experiencing vascular problems than those who did not have any kind of carbonated drink.


Some what flawed research I see.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20110209/thl-diet-fizz-linked-to-heart-attacks-d831572.html

[Weiss Pinguin]

In other news today, those who step outside every day have a 70% greater chance of getting a suntan than those who do not.

[NeonSamurai]

The research, presented at the American Stroke Association's international stroke conference in Los Angeles, was carried out by the University of Miami. The 2,564 participants had to state whether they drank diet fizzy drinks, regular fizzy drinks, a mixture of the two or none at all.
Researchers said the survey did not include data on the types of diet and regular drinks consumed however, which could have given further information on how drinking different brands affected participants.


Personally though I would rather read the study directly, rather than what was written about it.

[Betonov]

there's a word DIE in DIET

[joea]

Real sugar for me or nothing. :yeah:

Hey water is good. :smug:

[UnderseaLcpl]

Personally though I would rather read the study directly, rather than what was written about it.

Me, too. Then I'd also like to know who funded it, how, and why.

[Buddahaid]

In a further study, living has been linked to a 100% chance of death, eating to crapping, and drinking to pissing. Meh

[nikimcbee]

If that were true, I'd be dead by now.:dead:

[Jimbuna]

LOL my sentiments entirely :DL

[Oberon]

*looks at bottle of Coke Zero sitting on the desk next to him*

Well....bugger... :haha:

[Takeda Shingen]

Hmm, another well-funded study in the vein of 'bad things are bad for you'. What will the tell us next; that cigarettes are unhealthy?

[STEED]

There is a issue with all this research...

Cry wolf enough times and we the public say...."Yea, yea been there".

How many times has there been research on chocolate? I lost count on how bad its for you, sorry good for you, no bad for you, hang on whats this...good for you.


There doing themselves no favour's and causing more harm than good.

[DarkFish]

There doing themselves no favour's and causing more harm than good.Nope, the press are doing them no favor.

Example: Some research shows that people who eat peanuts daily are on average more healthy than people who do not. Generally some big news agency changes this into: "Eat more peanuts for your health". Next another research shows that people who eat peanuts have a higher probability to get cancer in their right thumb. And again the press distorts this into: "Peanuts cause cancer in your thumb, don't eat them!" That's all there is to it actually.
And that's why I can completely understand NeonSamurai when he says he'd rather read the study itself instead of these news stories.

[Penguin]

a "carbonated drink" could also mean beer, champagne or cider - not astonishing that people who don't consume them live more healthy...

And people who think that a diet soda is actually healthy, should be syruped and feathered :DL

<-- colahlic here

[Rilder]

Studies have shown evidence of Dihydrogen Monoxide in every single major illness patient.

[NeonSamurai]

Me, too. Then I'd also like to know who funded it, how, and why.

That is nice to know too, but often much more difficult to find out.

Nope, the press are doing them no favor.

Example: Some research shows that people who eat peanuts daily are on average more healthy than people who do not. Generally some big news agency changes this into: "Eat more peanuts for your health". Next another research shows that people who eat peanuts have a higher probability to get cancer in their right thumb. And again the press distorts this into: "Peanuts cause cancer in your thumb, don't eat them!" That's all there is to it actually.
And that's why I can completely understand NeonSamurai when he says he'd rather read the study itself instead of these news stories.

Precisely... It is always better to go directly to the source (preferably in the original language) for pretty much any kind of knowledge, otherwise you cannot be sure what kind of distortion(s) is going on (but can guarantee there is one).

[Buddahaid]

Studies have shown evidence of Dihydrogen Monoxide in every single major illness patient.

OMG! :o I'm doomed.

[TLAM Strike]

Studies have shown evidence of Dihydrogen Monoxide in every single major illness patient.

Yes its a nasty little chemical compound. Its destroyed our coast lines, its been used to torture people, and has been extensively used by the military; namely the Navy.

If you ask me it should be banned.

:03:

[tater]

Yeah, hard without the actual paper. Did they look at the sweetener, or just the carbonation? Could it be that people who drink regular soda get more heart disease because they get FAT? Then people who drink DIET soda get even more heart disease not because of the soda, but because those that chose diet are already so fat they decided to cut down on sugar (hence the diet drinking group is already more fat than the other)?

No way to tell without the paper, and pretty much any journalist writing about science is an idiot. There are exceptions (rare), but face it, people that go into journalism don't have the smarts for science or engineering in the first place.

[UnderseaLcpl]

That is nice to know too, but often much more difficult to find out.


And yet so important. Untold thousands of good businesses and millions of people's lives have been ruined by claims that were later proven to be false; claims that were made by researchers funded by political or economic competitors or out of their own need to secure funding. If there was ever a need for full acountability and disclosure across the full spectrum of the state and private sectors, this is it.

[Penguin]

Yes its a nasty little chemical compound. Its destroyed our coast lines, its been used to torture people, and has been extensively used by the military; namely the Navy.

If you ask me it should be banned.

:03:

I don't care if they ban it, I've heard they can produce it artificially and put it into GPU's - so we still can play subsims...

on the other hand, a subsim which plays on the planet Dune would also be great :up:

[Pisces]

The issue isn't the carbon-di-oxide content or the fizzyness of the drink, it's the sugar/sweetener replacement that is the focus. But yeah, without being able to read the rest of the study it won't make me think twice.

[FIREWALL]

Me, too. Then I'd also like to know who funded it, how, and why.

I wouldn't surprise me if it was the Fruit, Power drink, or Milk Industry. :haha: