Time for Captain America [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

Penguin

02-09-11, 06:58 AM

the trailer is featured in Neal's link ;)

at the youtube trailer site, you'll also find links to the series from 1944 :o
amazing, didn't know that the US featured their superheroes this early...

We only had Göring as our "Kapitän Deutschland", that's why we lost, he was too fat to move fast :D

fred8615

02-09-11, 09:44 AM

I've seen pictures of the costume, and I have to ask:

Why is he wearing suspenders???

nikimcbee

02-09-11, 11:11 AM

So how many subsim references will there be in the movie? And motodude?:06::haha:

Dowly

02-09-11, 11:40 AM

Wow, good casting choice! :yeah:

NOT! :doh:

Rilder

02-09-11, 11:46 AM

Is it just me or does he look German?

frau kaleun

02-09-11, 11:53 AM

I've seen pictures of the costume, and I have to ask:

Why is he wearing suspenders???

To keep his pants from falling down.

*ba-dum-TSSSSSH*

But seriously, folks... I dunno, I'm only judging by the pic upthread, but that there looks more to me like the straps for some kind of gear that he's toting. Or a parachute harness? I dunno.

For some reason I thought CA was gonna be played by the guy who was Johnny Storm in the first two Fantastic 4 movies, is that him? Looks like a different guy to me. Not as cute as I'd hoped but I'd have to see him moving around and talking first.

Anyway, I never was a big CA fan so it's no biggie. I'll always have Wolverine. :O:

Dowly

02-09-11, 11:57 AM

For some reason I thought CA was gonna be played by the guy who was Johnny Storm in the first two Fantastic 4 movies, is that him?

He is.

frau kaleun

02-09-11, 12:03 PM

He is.

Ya, watching the trailer I could start to see it's the same guy, the still pic just rang no bells at all. Maybe it's the hair color/style that threw me.

Re the trailer: they actually went with the full spandex suit from the comix? Really? I was hoping they'd at least upgrade the look a little more.

Onkel Neal

02-09-11, 12:04 PM

amazing, didn't know that the US featured their superheroes this early...

Punching Hitler in the face since 1941 (http://www.superherocomicshop.com/captain-america-history) :shucks:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c7/Captainamerica1.jpg/445px-Captainamerica1.jpg

His first appearance was in March of 1941, in Captain America Comics #1. Captain America was first published by Timely Comics. Timely Comics would later go on to be Marvel Comics. His creation was several years in the making before that though. Creators Joe Simon and Jack Kirby felt that a war with the Nazis was inevitable. Also, that the American public was in need of a galvanizing figure to lead the charge. Morale was not always great in the country and the times ahead were uncertain.
Captain America was a propaganda tool for them and Captain America would star in comics combating the Nazis and other Axis powers of World War II. Captain America was an instant success, selling over a million copies in his very first appearance. That issue, Captain America Comics #1, notably featured Captain America punching Hitler in the face. No punches were pulled with Captain America, the creators voiced their thoughts and ideals exactly as they had them.

Some heroes are conflicted and complex, Cap was one-dimensional and cocksure, that's what I like about him. Screw shades of grey, let's go kick some bad guy butt.:rock:

Penguin

02-09-11, 12:21 PM

:o a German soldier sporting a PPSh in Hitler's HQ?

:hmmm: interesting, he fought one year before my favourite cartoon character, Donald Duck, his first WW2 film being from '42.

But the brave duck got at least an Oscar in '43 for his fight against the Nazis... :|\\
Also he preferred distance weapons:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Derfuehrersfaceposter.JPG

slight OT: the Disney war toons collection is highly recommended!

Dowly

02-09-11, 12:28 PM

:o a German soldier sporting a PPSh in Hitler's

Looks more like Tommy gun to me ( pistol & front grip). :hmmm:

Penguin

02-09-11, 12:39 PM

Looks more like Tommy gun to me ( pistol & front grip). :hmmm:

:hmmm: indeed, regarding the front grip, but it also looks like the barrel has holes in it, and the buttstock looks cut out deeper than on a Thompson.
Anyway, I think it you're right, it should be a tommy gun, as the cartoon creators certainly never saw a ppsh before - or a german MP

edit: I would exclude that the gun is a MP18 with a modified front grip. Why would Hitler give his personal guards such an old-arse gun when he has all the new and fancy MP 40's in stock?

Dowly

02-09-11, 12:50 PM

Yeah and cartoons don't usually pay that much attention on getting stuff like this 100% right. ;)

Penguin

02-09-11, 12:57 PM

what, this is a cartoon? :88) :O:

well, the Luger in the front looks pretty recognizable to me :O:
which brings me to the question: what gun does the guard next to the guy with the machine pistol use?

<- gotta go home now, too long at work, too many weird thoughts....

Weiss Pinguin

02-09-11, 01:01 PM

Having not kept up with Captain America for some months now all I can say is
YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAH
http://www.chartmovieinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Captain-America-1024x681-580x385.jpg

also Thor is on the way as well :yep:

fred8615

02-09-11, 05:28 PM

Punching Hitler in the face since 1941 (http://www.superherocomicshop.com/captain-america-history) :shucks:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c7/Captainamerica1.jpg/445px-Captainamerica1.jpg

Some heroes are conflicted and complex, Cap was one-dimensional and cocksure, that's what I like about him. Screw shades of grey, let's go kick some bad guy butt.:rock:
And you will note, no suspenders.

August

02-09-11, 08:46 PM

Yeah and cartoons don't usually pay that much attention on getting stuff like this 100% right. ;)

Yeah , it was more like the only smg they had ever seen was a Thompson mob chopper so they just modified that to look a little different.

Schöneboom

02-09-11, 11:50 PM

Personally I think the new costume works. The colors are muted so it looks less cartoony, and the design with the straps gives it a sense of military origin. All in all, Cap looks like he belongs among soldiers in the field. Check it out:

http://amygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Chris-Evans-Wearing-Captain-America-Costume-500x438.jpg

And aren't you relieved that he doesn't have little wings sticking out of his head?

Feuer Frei!

02-10-11, 04:05 AM

http://amygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Chris-Evans-Wearing-Captain-America-Costume-500x438.jpg

Gotta be honest here, i think the 2 soldiers? in the background look more badass, but, then i guess it wouldn't be the Captain then would it :DL
The shield would be...made out of?

Edit:
the thing weighs 12 pounds and is made out of a unique Vibranium-Adimantium alloy that has never been duplicated.
The shield has great aerodynamic properties: it is able to slice through the air with minimal wind resistance and deflection of path. Its great overall resilience, combined with its natural concentric stiffness, enables it to rebound from objects with minimal loss of angular momentum. It is virtually indestructible: it is resistant to penetration, temperature extremes, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum of radiation. The only way it can be damaged in any way is by tampering with its molecular bonding.

August

02-10-11, 08:48 AM

Gotta be honest here, i think the 2 soldiers? in the background look more badass, but, then i guess it wouldn't be the Captain then would it

I'll bet they're enemy soldiers...

frau kaleun

02-10-11, 09:06 AM

Eh, I'm with Feuer Frei.

Hot:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vv2IGE5obwk/TStbvwFd5PI/AAAAAAAAGzg/QaV4IBEc7uk/s1600/Speirs.jpg

Not so much:

http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/captain-america-movie-costume-2.jpg

Feuer Frei!

02-10-11, 10:00 AM

I'll bet they're enemy soldiers...
On second thoughts, you might be right. *tongue in cheek*

frau kaleun

02-10-11, 10:10 AM

I'll bet they're enemy soldiers...

Wait, what? From some kind of Nazi super soldier secret weapons program?

Actually I am kind of confused, CA makes his debut in WWII, right? But IIRC Tony Stark found his apparently abandoned shield among Old Man Stark's stuff in Iron Man II, which would presumably be present day or near future, and they're setting up an Avengers thing which would be CA, Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk I guess, but all in present day or near future, amirite? It would have to be, because all the other guys' storylines are already locked into the "present day or near future" setting.

So is this CA movie set in WWII, present day or near future, or both? And if CA starts out in WWII, why is he still around for what I assume will be a present-day Avengers thingy? Does he not age because of what they did to make him a super soldier?

August

02-10-11, 10:18 AM

Wait, what? From some kind of Nazi super soldier secret weapons program?

I'm just going by the picture but to me he looks captured.

So is this CA movie set in WWII, present day or near future, or both?

I don;t know those answers but considering the fake WLA war bike and the picture Wess posted at least part of it is set in WW2.

Dowly

02-10-11, 10:27 AM

http://amygrindhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Chris-Evans-Wearing-Captain-America-Costume-500x438.jpg

And aren't you relieved that he doesn't have little wings sticking out of his head?

I'd take the wings anyday over that sock in his crotch. :haha:

Feuer Frei!

02-10-11, 10:29 AM

I'd take the wings anyday over that sock in his crotch. :haha:
Or is it the velcro zipper that hasn't softened yet due to its newness?

frau kaleun

02-10-11, 10:35 AM

I'd take the wings anyday over that sock in his crotch. :haha:

STOP TALKING ABOUT THE WINGS!

All I can think of now is "Captain America... now with wings, for added protection!"

Superhero or pantyliner? I JUST DON'T KNOW!

Dowly

02-10-11, 10:47 AM

Or is it the velcro zipper that hasn't softened yet due to its newness?

He already looks rather ridiculous in that suit IMHO, so I have to go with the sock theory. :DL

Sailor Steve

02-10-11, 12:02 PM

Edit:
the thing weighs 12 pounds and is made out of a unique Vibranium-Adimantium alloy that has never been duplicated.
The shield has great aerodynamic properties: it is able to slice through the air with minimal wind resistance and deflection of path. Its great overall resilience, combined with its natural concentric stiffness, enables it to rebound from objects with minimal loss of angular momentum. It is virtually indestructible: it is resistant to penetration, temperature extremes, and the entire electromagnetic spectrum of radiation. The only way it can be damaged in any way is by tampering with its molecular bonding.
I absolutely love comic book BS. :rock:

So is this CA movie set in WWII, present day or near future, or both? And if CA starts out in WWII, why is he still around for what I assume will be a present-day Avengers thingy? Does he not age because of what they did to make him a super soldier?
I'm more of a DC fan than Marvel, but it's my understanding that at some point during or after the war Cap was put into some kind of stasis, and revived in modern times.

[edit] I did a little checking and found that Cap was frozen in the arctic ice for a bunch of years before being revived. More comics BS, but all in good fun.

frau kaleun

02-10-11, 12:11 PM

Vibranium-Adimantium alloy

I absolutely love comic book BS. :rock:

Ahem... it's Adamantium. Same stuff that was bonded to Wolverine's skeleton.

I'm more of a DC fan than Marvel, but it's my understanding that at some point during or after the war Cap was put into some kind of stasis, and revived in modern times.

I did a little checking and found that Cap was frozen in the arctic ice for a bunch of years before being revived. More comics BS, but all in good fun.

Okay, that'll do, woudn't want to have any completely ridiculous and unbelievable holes in the plot. :O:

Sailor Steve

02-10-11, 12:16 PM

Ahem... it's Adamantium. Same stuff that was bonded to Wolverine's skeleton.
Hey, I just quoted the other guy. Since when is it my job to go around correcting people?
:rotfl2:

Okay, that'll do, woudn't want to have any completely ridiculous and unbelievable holes in the plot. :O:
Did you know that in the original Action Comics #1 they tried to justify Superman's abilities with references to ants and grasshoppers? It's true.

Tchocky

02-10-11, 12:32 PM

Hoooo, this looks awesome

Schöneboom

02-10-11, 08:49 PM

Btw, the guys in the battle-suits behind Cap are agents of HYDRA, henchmen of Red Skull (Hugo Weaving). In the trailer, they're using arm-mounted flamethrowers on Cap.

Re Vibranium, what I read says that it was never duplicated, but an attempt at reverse-engineering it resulted in Adamantium. (And I'm not even a comic book geek!)

Interesting side-note: Nick Fury was also originally a WW2 character -- but I don't see him in the cast for this movie. Maybe they'll surprise us at the end or something.

August

02-10-11, 10:18 PM

Interesting side-note: Nick Fury was also originally a WW2 character -- but I don't see him in the cast for this movie. Maybe they'll surprise us at the end or something.

I remember those. "Sgt Fury and his Howling Commandos"

Talk about suspension of disbelief! :DL I've seen them jump from planes without parachutes. and survive by, get this, grabbing telephone wires at the last second. Well the English guy would use his "bumpershoot" :88), but that was only one of it's many uses.

But i was a DC comics kid Sgt Rock and Easy Company, the Haunted Tank and Weird War Tales.

Platapus

02-10-11, 10:36 PM

Anyone else, besides me, read the comic called "weird" from the 1960's.

It was a deeply disturbing comic and probably explains a lot about my personality and my relationships with humans. :yep:

It never had a big following and probably for good reason.

Falkirion

02-10-11, 11:03 PM

I think marvel are trying to set up for an Avengers movies. They've had Nick Fury in Iron Man 1 & 2, and had Tony Stark make a cameo in the latest Hulk (Edward Norton playing Hulk btw, is fairly cool)

Thor was revealed at the end of Iron Man 2 and Cap's been in the works for a while now. Should check if Samuel L Jackson's been tapped for the role in Thor and CA. And the new Spiderman too.

Sailor Steve

02-10-11, 11:11 PM

I think marvel are trying to set up for an Avengers movies.
You think? Does that mean you missed all the announcements they've made that that is exactly what they're doing?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0848228/
http://marvel.com/avengers_movie/
http://www.beyondhollywood.com/category/avengers-2009-movie/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trb6yBZcFlo

Onkel Neal

03-03-11, 11:47 PM

Man, they are already wimping out :down:
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/21/captain-america-the-first-avenger-to-be-just-the-first-avenger-in-russia-south-korea-ukraine/

August

03-03-11, 11:56 PM

Onkel Neal

07-23-11, 09:03 PM

Yay, it was good! :yeah: The editing was a little choppy at times, but I enjoyed it. Tommy Lee Jones had some realy great lines, but the best line was delivered by a kid.

Sailor Steve

07-23-11, 11:53 PM

amazing, didn't know that the US featured their superheroes this early...
Superman debuted in Action Comics in 1938, and Batman in Detective Comics in 1939. Wonder Woman came along in 1940. Superman had his screen debut in a cartoon in 1941. I'm currently watching a Batman live-action serial from 1943.