State multiculturalism has failed, says David Cameron

[Gerald]

David Cameron has criticised "state multiculturalism" in his first speech as prime minister on radicalisation and the causes of terrorism.

At a security conference in Munich, he argued the UK needed a stronger national identity to prevent people turning to all kinds of extremism.

He also signalled a tougher stance on groups promoting Islamist extremism.

The speech angered some Muslim groups, while others queried its timing amid an English Defence League rally in the UK.

As Mr Cameron outlined his vision, he suggested there would be greater scrutiny of some Muslim groups which get public money but do little to tackle extremism.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12371994

Note: 5 February 2011 Last updated at 18:55 GMT

[Lord_magerius]

IMO I don't think that Britain has a problem with multiculturalism and such, I think 95% of the problems with terrorism are based in politics, not peoples abilities to blend and mix with other cultures. He just can't see this as he's blinded by the sun shining out of his arse :O:

[papa_smurf]

Well done Mr Cameron:nope:

[Skybird]

Boy meets girl (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed)

[Oberon]

I don't think it ever worked Dave. Nice try being original for once though. :damn:

[STEED]

Mr Cameron outlined his vision

Whats that? 4 million unemployed, the end of the minimum wage, privatization of the NHS and so on.

Dave struts around while Clegg pecks at his arse.

[Lord_magerius]

When Nick Griffin comes out and says it's a provocative statement, you know you're doing something wrong :haha:

[Oberon]

Whats that? 4 million unemployed, the end of the minimum wage, privatization of the NHS and so on.

Dave struts around while Clegg pecks at his arse.

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5421/1dfafda24c274e4eb8c4065.jpg

[STEED]

Too true Oberon, trouble is labour are becoming a load of toffs. Granted not upper class but middle to middle-upper class.

[Tribesman]

Its quite funny when this week here on this forum there has been a topic about the complexities of history and the large mixes and seperations of the multiple cultures of the UK/GB and all its constituent parts.
Given that most of the people in that topic were British of different flavours could they point out what they think is the national identity which Cameron wants to build upon?

[Lord_magerius]

There is no real answer to the national identity, but the one Cameron wants to build on is the middle and upper class sense of being British.
"I know people are poor, but I need my pastry cook. For god's sake, can't I even have a biscuit anymore?"

That's the sort of person Cameron's and the conservatives policies are favouring. Yeah I wouldn't mind so much if I was working probably. But I'm one of the millions on benefits (and unlike some tossers I'm actually looking for a job) and knowing that they are to be reduced, just to aid in sorting out the deficit. I'm on £35 a week and that could be cut in half in the near future. So yeah, £17.50 is a perfectly manageable sum to work with... of course.... C***:dead:

[Castout]

Given that most of the people in that topic were British of different flavours could they point out what they think is the national identity which Cameron wants to build upon?


This? Surely a candidate :O:
http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/celebrity-pictures-mel-gibson-braveheart-roasting-marshmallows.jpg


Wiki
The Cameron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_%28surname%29) family is a member of the ancient Scottish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people) Clan Cameron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Cameron) seated in the Inverness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverness) area of the Scottish Highlands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Highlands).[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cameron#cite_note-Clan_Cameron-11)

[papa_smurf]

I can bet the far-right are loving all what Cameron said regarding mulitculturalism:nope:

[Gerald]

IMO I don't think that Britain has a problem with multiculturalism and such, I think 95% of the problems with terrorism are based in politics, not peoples abilities to blend and mix with other cultures. He just can't see this as he's blinded by the sun shining out of his arse :O: True, :D

[gimpy117]

Whats that? 4 million unemployed, the end of the minimum wage, privatization of the NHS and so on.

Dave struts around while Clegg pecks at his arse.

you're becoming america. how does it feel?

There was once a time when the powerful in this country gave a damn about the poor, or even the common man, but i think thats long gone. Men today seem to only stand to line their pockets or their friends' pockets. I watched some of Ted Kennedy's speeches of late. lawmakers like that are a vanishing breed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SicFn8rqPPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sut4fl-YRbA&feature=related

[Jimbuna]

Whats that? 4 million unemployed, the end of the minimum wage, privatization of the NHS and so on.

Dave struts around while Clegg pecks at his arse.

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/5421/1dfafda24c274e4eb8c4065.jpg

LOL :DL

http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/features/d/content/images/2010/05/07/cameron_clegg_inbed_626x260.jpg

[STEED]

you're becoming america. how does it feel?




Great. :DL

So relived its not Welsh. :rolleyes:

[Gerald]

"Frankly, we need a lot less of the passive tolerance of recent years and much more active, muscular liberalism," the prime minister said.

http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/60863-state-multiculturalism-has-failed-says-david-cameron.html

[STEED]

Hey Vendor, is Swedish politics that boring? ;)

Just wondering as I seen a few threads put up by your good self on British politics. :)

[Gerald]

Hey Vendor, is Swedish politics that boring? ;)

Just wondering as I seen a few threads put up by your good self on British politics. :) Yes currently, and it's not time to devote myself to drivel like that, hence my threads,but U.K is interesting for other reasons, also :DL

[STEED]

Yes currently, and it's not time to devote myself to drivel like that, hence my threads,but U.K is interesting for other reasons, also :DL

Strange, I find British politics mind numbing boring. :rotfl2:

[Gerald]

Strange, I find British politics mind numbing boring. :rotfl2:
same here, :haha:

[STEED]

:rotfl2::rotfl2::up:

[Armistead]

I once did a study about 200 failed cultures/countries that once were top in the world. Obvious, many factors involved, but one they all had in common was elitism. Riches gained off the backs of the poor, but slowly a middle class of sorts is gained, but that isn't enough for those in power. Slowly through policy they then have to have the meager wealth of the middle class to increase. This creates a two class system or a few rich, the rest poor. Eventually the elite have no where to turn for more wealth, the lower classes revolt. The elite hide behind walls for awhile until overran....revolution...

You would think someone would learn from this, but seems this cycle is non ending.

[Bubblehead1980]

you're becoming america. how does it feel?

There was once a time when the powerful in this country gave a damn about the poor, or even the common man, but i think thats long gone. Men today seem to only stand to line their pockets or their friends' pockets. I watched some of Ted Kennedy's speeches of late. lawmakers like that are a vanishing breed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SicFn8rqPPE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sut4fl-YRbA&feature=related


Praising Ted Kennedy? really? lol

[Bubblehead1980]

Good job Cameron, he is absolutely right.UK has a Muslim problem, definitely need to take steps to isolate and cut them off and help forge a strong national identity.Too bad we here in the US are stuck with Barry O for two more years, we need a leader with some guts.:damn:

[Takeda Shingen]

Forced homogeny always ends in disaster for those doing the forcing. I am doubtful that a Brit, such as Cameron is, would have forgotten that lesson. 'Forging a strong national identity' will blow up in one's face with absolute certainty.

[Tribesman]

UK has a Muslim problem, definitely need to take steps to isolate and cut them off and help forge a strong national identity.
So your idea for improving integration is segregation and isolation???????:doh:

I am doubtful that a Brit, such as Cameron is, would have forgotten that lesson. 'Forging a strong national identity' will blow up in one's face with absolute certainty.
Well he really is a child of Thatcher in that he takes her worse points as a basis for his idealolgy, so maybe he will follow her Finchley example that had her unionist allies frothing at the mouth and her republican opponents rolling with laughter.

[gimpy117]

Praising Ted Kennedy? really? lol

yes, the lion of the left wing. He'll be missed.

[Armistead]

Good job Cameron, he is absolutely right.UK has a Muslim problem, definitely need to take steps to isolate and cut them off and help forge a strong national identity.Too bad we here in the US are stuck with Barry O for two more years, we need a leader with some guts.:damn:

Hitler tried that with the jews....

What about freedom of religion, isn't that what forms a strong national identity?

Well, I guess we could start with muslims first and then go after christians, might work afterall.

[Snestorm]

He made a very impressive statement but, will he actualy try do anything to change the current policies?
We shall see.

[Tribesman]

You know who you are, and so do we.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6O4Mf4W4Uo
Isn't a link to neo-nazi scum a breach of forum policy?

[Gerald]

There are many Western countries that have problems with the immigration of various ethnic groups, Muslims are not the end, measures should be done and should be done on their home turf in the first place and strengthening the infrastructure in affected countries.