simple question about Silent Hunter 5

[Anton88]

Why did the development team not give us "The Ultimate Silent Hunter" this time?

why did they give us just another silent hunter game.. ?

It's really not that special.
They released this game prematurely, incomplete,..'done in a haste'
they rushed things and did a crappy job

[Drewcifer]

Silent Hunter has ALWAYS been a game that didn't stand on its own. Every Silent Hunter game I enjoy was only 'worthy' after the EXTREMELY Talented and Dedicated modders of this very community got their hands on it. Silent Hunter 3 is Garbage without GWX, and Silent Hunter 5 is garbage without Magnum Opus.

Its just a fact. The Silent Hunter 5 engine is BRILLANT but like any Silent Hunter game thats been pushed out and left without love you need to give it time to mature.. and grow. Now is about that time when Silent Hunter 5 is starting to look very adult. Playing Unmodded is just never the way Silent Hunter should be played.

[Sailor Steve]

Why are you asking thse questions a year after it was released? We've had these discussions many times now, and the answer is always the same - no one knows.

@ Drewcifer: SH1 ran perfectly out of the box, and though the handful of mods improved it, they were never necessary. On the other hand SH1 was pre-UBI.

[Drewcifer]

Why are you asking thse questions a year after it was released? We've had these discussions many times now, and the answer is always the same - no one knows.

@ Drewcifer: SH1 ran perfectly out of the box, and though the handful of mods improved it, they were never necessary. On the other hand SH1 was pre-UBI.


Ok I'll give you that... but the fact Silent Hunter really does lean hard on its mod community to survive.. with the exception of the FIRST Silent Hunter. lol.. I think my point stands, but I will give you there was ONE jewel that didn't need to be polished to death to be fun.

[Itabraga]

Silent Hunter has ALWAYS been a game that didn't stand on its own. Every Silent Hunter game I enjoy was only 'worthy' after the EXTREMELY Talented and Dedicated modders of this very community got their hands on it. Silent Hunter 3 is Garbage without GWX, and Silent Hunter 5 is garbage without Magnum Opus.

Its just a fact. The Silent Hunter 5 engine is BRILLANT but like any Silent Hunter game thats been pushed out and left without love you need to give it time to mature.. and grow. Now is about that time when Silent Hunter 5 is starting to look very adult. Playing Unmodded is just never the way Silent Hunter should be played.

this mod is compatible with the multiplayer mode or all that are in the same game must have the mod?

[Ducimus]

Silent Hunter 3 is Garbage without GWX, and Silent Hunter 5 is garbage without Magnum Opus.
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You forgot Silent hunter 4, which is no different then 3 or 5 in this regard.

[ETR3(SS)]

You forgot Silent hunter 4, which is no different then 3 or 5 in this regard.Yes but to most people SH4 doesn't have "teh pwnzor zomg uboots!" in it.

[Anton88]

Why are you asking thse questions a year after it was released? We've had these discussions many times now, and the answer is always the same - no one knows.

@ Drewcifer: SH1 ran perfectly out of the box, and though the handful of mods improved it, they were never necessary. On the other hand SH1 was pre-UBI.


Because I just got the game for the first time a couple of days ago and I was more disappointed than impressed.


The game has only one type of U-boat which I knew already...ok so the dev-team had no time or data to model all uboat interiors... ok, understood but there is no excuse for the war ending in 1943.
It's exactly after 1943 that the U-boat war gets interesting.

However I found even more surprises.
The clock inside the submarine does not even work.. the needles are not turning.
There are no buttons you can click like the depth-under-keel device, and some important gauges (battery level, compressed air) are not there or are showing incorrect readings. The TDC computer you can not adjust yourself manually. I think in all submarine games out there you could do that.

You can not adjust your course manually..or your depth accurately. ShIII is much better here.
The crew don't move or behave nearly as realistically as one would expect after seeing the Trailer.
In port you arrive one day and depart on the next mission the next day.. Im already in February 1940, and I have like 5 or 6 patrols. Thats not realistic. It was not like this in real life. As for wolfpacks - I have not seen any other U-boat out there. The crew are the same people, same names, same faces..In all submarines...
The Ju-88 aircraft is actually a Ju-188 totally different plane..etc etc

Yes the Modding community might improve the game alot, but I doubt they can recreate the interior of a type II or a type IX boat. I would have gladly waited another year or two but at least give us a totally realistic U-boat simulator - one that has immersion and feels like the real thing.

Silent Hunter III came close.. they only modeled 2 or 3 compartments and used the excuse that "the captain rarely went inside the other parts of the u-boat"..
hey at least we have a gramophone ! :yeah:

I'm waiting for Silent Hunter 6.
I don't think my expectations are too high here - rather that other people's standards are too low.

To be honest here even a game like "Aces of the Deep" in some ways has more immersion and realism and "feels like the real thing" than Silent Hunter 5

:down:

[stoianm]

Because I just got the game for the first time a couple of days ago and I was more disappointed than impressed.


The game has only one type of U-boat which I knew already...ok so the dev-team had no time or data to model all uboat interiors... ok, understood but there is no excuse for the war ending in 1943.


However I found even more surprises.
The clock inside the submarine does not even work.. the needles are not turning. FALSE
There are no buttons you can click like the depth-under-keel device, and some important gauges (battery level, compressed air) are not there or are showing incorrect readings. FALSE

You can not adjust your course manually..or your depth accurately. ShIII is much better here.false
The crew don't move or behave nearly as realistically as one would expect after seeing the Trailer.
In port you arrive one day and depart on the next mission the next day.. Im already in February 1940, and I have like 5 or 6 patrols. Thats not realistic. It was not like this in real life. As for wolfpacks - I have not seen any other U-boat out there. The crew are the same people, same faces..
FALSE - that is hapen only you are refit in posrt - if you want to start a new patrol you will depart after few days
Yes the Modding community might improve the game alot, but I doubt they can recreate the interior of a type II or a type IX boat. I would have gladly waited another year or two but at least give us a totally realistic U-boat simulator - one that has immersion and feels like the real thing.

Silent Hunter III came close.. they only modeled 2 or 3 compartments and used the excuse that "the captain rarely went inside the other parts of the u-boat"..
hey at least we have a gramophone ! :yeah:

I'm waiting for Silent Hunter 6.
I don't think my expectations are too high here - rather that other people's standards are too low.

To be honest here even a game like "Aces of the Deep" in some ways has more immersion and realism and "feels like the real thing" than Silent Hunter 5

:down:

Try to add some mods: start with this one: magnum opus and after that you will see that where i wrotted FALSE i am wright!:up:

Salute!:salute:

[Trevally.]

Try to add some mods: start with this one: magnum opus and after that you will see that where i wrotted FALSE i am wright!:up:

Salute!:salute:

Also needs to update to patch SH5v1.2

[stoianm]

Also needs to update to patch SH5v1.2

Good point Trevally - i forgot the first step!:up::oops:

[Bilge_Rat]

Yes but to most people SH4 doesn't have "teh pwnzor zomg uboots!" in it.


U-Boats, U-Boats...I never understood the obsession some players have for WW2 U-Boats: no stadimeter, no TDC, no radar, obsolete by 1942, hapless targets in 43-45. Only the beginning part of the war is interesting.

With U.S. Fleet boats, you see another way of fighting a submarime war, as dangerous and ultimately more successful than Donitz's effort.

I uninstalled SH3 the day SH4 was released and never regretted it. SH4 is on my hard drive and still gets (some) play time.

[Sailor Steve]

U-Boats, U-Boats...I never understood the obsession some players have for WW2 U-Boats: no stadimeter, no TDC, no radar, obsolete by 1942, hapless targets in 43-45. Only the beginning part of the war is interesting.

With U.S. Fleet boats, you see another way of fighting a submarime war, as dangerous and ultimately more successful than Donitz's effort.

I uninstalled SH3 the day SH4 was released and never regretted it. SH4 is on my hard drive and still gets (some) play time.
If you hate u-boats, why are you posting a thread that is dedicated to only u-boats?

When SH4 was released there was a huge (and I mean HUGE) outcry. Most of the U-boat supporters had the opposite complaint - US fleet boats are boring because the war gets easier as time passes, the tougher things get for the u-boats the better the game is etc. I think both complaints are based on personal preference, and therefore valid as opinions but invalid as complaints.

Me? I love the history and the equipment, so both are wonderful. :sunny:

[Bilge_Rat]

If you hate u-boats, why are you posting a thread that is dedicated to only u-boats?



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[Ducimus]

Yes but to most people SH4 doesn't have "teh pwnzor zomg uboots!" in it.

Yeah i know what you mean. SH4 DOES have uboats in it however, and you can get some cool things going on for them. It just doesn't cater specifically for uboats, Amazingly enough, the German side has more cool features that the game supports. Full KM grid, and player abiliites for instance. The US side has none of these things, and yet, because it's not Uboat only, it simply doesn't exist.

U-Boats, U-Boats...I never understood the obsession some players have for WW2 U-Boats

It's all about Das Boot. That movie has done more to propagate the uboat myth and romance more then anything else I'm aware of.


When SH4 was released there was a huge (and I mean HUGE) outcry.

Yeah i remember that. Not fondly i might add. I didn't realize just how close minded a lot of people here are until this outcry happened. Some of the comments were so heinously ignorant, they defy belief. As a result, my personal opinion of many things took a nose dive during this period.


Most of the U-boat supporters had the opposite complaint - US fleet boats are boring because the war gets easier as time passes,

Honestly, I think your typical "u-boat supporters" know diddly squat about US fleet boats, or the pacific campaign. I chaulk it all up to willful ignorance. Because If it didn't happen in Das Boot, it just didn't happen. I know that sounds spiteful, but everything ive read here over the years leads me to think this.


Anywho this topic used to bug the crap out of me. Not so much now. In my mind it doesn't matter what other people say, think, or do; because I know, *I* have read up on the history of, played, and modded for both Uboats and fleet boats - equally. Not everyone here can say that, and i think it makes me a better player/submarine enthusiast/subsimmer/whatever.

[Drewcifer]

Ok war in the pacific and war in the atlantic were two VERY different monsters. The uboats were going toe to toe with the BEST navy in the known world.

The war in the pacific I cannot say the same.

And okay you can FLOOD me with reasons why fleet boats are more fun then my Uboot. ok. Let me just say its preference.

I want to play the Nazis.. since day one I've played the American soldier, dominating this and that, I AM American.. it gets old. Everywar game ever has you playing the US pretty much.

I want to be the underdog, and I want to be the "bad guy" so to speak. Plus its like saying a guy likes old corvettes.. yeah I can blow your doors off with my 2011 lambo... but your 69 sting ray is pretty darn sexy...

This is also mostly rambling...

[Factor]

I look at the SH series like I do rFactor.....The game you buy is nothing but a mod platform.....Worthless by itself.

[Sailor Steve]

OkLet me just say its preference.
And that is the bottom line, as well as the only real answer. Anything about how one was better, or had it worse, or any of the other things people always bring up in these arguments, is useless fluff. The only real reason people prefer one over the other is because they do.

And I still like both. :sunny:

[Ducimus]

Just for the record, the only reason i wrote my last post, was because 3 different people touched on the same subject. Otherwise, id have kept my yap shut. It's not my intention to rehash another fleetboat vs uboat argument. Everyone walks away angry, more polarized into this Us vs them mindset, with horse blinders firmly in place.

For anyone who's truly interested in WW2 diesel submarines and submarine warfare in general, id encourage you to explore both theaters with equal zeal. Your really missing out if you don't.

[Bilge_Rat]

For anyone who's truly interested in WW2 diesel submarines and submarine warfare in general, id encourage you to explore both theaters with equal zeal. Your really missing out if you don't.

agreed. Being a skipper of a U.S. boat in the Pacific in SH4 or a Kaleun of a U-Boat in the Atlantic in SH5 can be as fun and challenging.