View Full Version : Um, REALLY!?!?! Assange for Nobel Peace Prize!?!?!?!?
Torvald Von Mansee
01-31-11, 08:57 AM
http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/nobel-peace-prize-nomination-wikileaks-founder
Obama got it for just NOT being Bush, while this guy clearly has done things which have contributed to violence. We're talking 1984 levels of hypocrisy, here!!
the_tyrant
01-31-11, 09:02 AM
the nobel peace price should be awarded to someone who:
"...shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."
what did Assange do?
Anything goes after Obama's win. :nope:
mookiemookie
01-31-11, 09:13 AM
while this guy clearly has done things which have contributed to violence.
No he hasn't.
ETR3(SS)
01-31-11, 09:38 AM
Anything goes after Obama's win. :nope:
This.
the_tyrant
01-31-11, 09:55 AM
Anything goes after Obama's win. :nope:
You can win with a "boobs for everybody" campaign!
Betonov
01-31-11, 10:21 AM
There should be a: Nobel screwing the goverments and institutions prize.
Assange should be given the highest award possible on this planet, if the peace prize is that then he should have the peace prize, despite if he contributed to world peace or not
TLAM Strike
01-31-11, 10:39 AM
Anything goes after Obama's win. :nope:
Anything goes after Arafat's win... :roll:
Onkel Neal
01-31-11, 10:52 AM
Anything goes after Obama's win. :nope:
Truth!
Does this mean we should nominate The Third Man for a Nobel Peace Prize? :hmmm:
Does this mean we should nominate The Third Man for a Nobel Peace Prize? :hmmm:
Well, he's certainly contributed a lot to Obama's credibility - after reading his posts, you can't help but slightly sympathise with the pres. So he totally deserves the Obama Peace Prize :haha:
Ducimus
01-31-11, 11:33 AM
Obama aside, If this guy wins the nobel peace price, it will be all but official that it simply won't be worth anything anymore. It will be devalued to the point of being worth spit on the sidewalk.
Growler
01-31-11, 11:46 AM
Guys, the Nobel Prizes are named for the dude who patented dynamite, and y'all are surprised by hypocrisy in the Peace Prize?:rotfl2::har:
All kidding aside: Assange? Really? :nope: I give up.
Jan Kyster
01-31-11, 12:48 PM
Nobel Prize lost all credability when awarding that ... Al Gore... :nope:
Guys, the Nobel Prizes are named for the dude who patented dynamite...That has saved a countless number of lives...
goldorak
01-31-11, 01:05 PM
Anything goes after Obama's win. :nope:
Yeah right.
After the Nobel peace prize was awarded to Arafat its credibility just went 6 feet under. And it never really recovered afterwards.
Arafat, Obama, Assange whats the difference really ? The first 2 have blood on their hands either directly or indirectly, Assange hasn't killed anyone and has started a moral revolution is how people expect to view their governments doings.
He is more worthy of the prize then either of the other 2 figures. You can hate him, find him a douchebag, obnoxious person, but what wikileaks has done is a great service to all liberal democratic societies.
Torvald Von Mansee
01-31-11, 03:01 PM
Truth!
Well, to be fair, NOT being Bush is pretty HUGE
UnderseaLcpl
01-31-11, 04:01 PM
Assange isn't so bad considering some past nominees. Woodrow Wilson won a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts in forming the League of Nations, which involved going to war and sacrificing hundreds of thousands of soldiers' lives and lying to the public to gain a seat at the peace conference table. Then he did nothing while the British continued to blockade Germany after the cessation of hostilities, even though thousands were starving to death every week. Then he did more nothing while Europe redrew the borders of the world into a fractalized wreck with the intent of securing the dominance of Britain and France, which set the stage for generations of wars and civil unrest to come.
Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?:yeah:
...Assange hasn't killed anyone and has started a moral revolution is how people expect to view their governments doings.
He has??? I guess you are to young to remember the Vietnam War and a major fuss created when "the Pentagon Papers." were "leaked", in 1971(the year Assange was born), to a certain Democrat Senator from Alaska. Perhaps you are also too young to remember another famous incident, from the same time frame, often referred to as "Watergate."
Assange is doing nothing that has not been done for years now. It is just that the internet allows for a much easier transfer of information.
krashkart
01-31-11, 04:48 PM
The article is only speculating about who might be nominated for a prize this year. It doesn't say that he will actually win.
Speaking of Assange, anyone else watch his interview on 60 Minutes last night?
Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?:yeah:
Splendid idea! :woot:
goldorak
01-31-11, 04:54 PM
He has??? I guess you are to young to remember the Vietnam War and a major fuss created when "the Pentagon Papers." were "leaked", in 1971(the year Assange was born), to a certain Democrat Senator from Alaska. Perhaps you are also too young to remember another famous incident, from the same time frame, often referred to as "Watergate."
Assange is doing nothing that has not been done for years now. It is just that the internet allows for a much easier transfer of information.
Ah but the point is this : in the last 10-20 years journalism has basically abdicated its role of keeping in check the government (the fourth power all but gone nowadays). You know doing those kinds of inquiries and uncovering hot truths that real journalists used to do. As in the watergate scandal and the "pentagon papers" you refered to. The american journalism of the seventies and eighties was much more serious than what we have know. Its all reduced to infotainment. And wikileaks has given a good kick in the ass to the journalistic profession to make them start doing their job again and not just pay lip service to the government.
So yeah Wikileaks may not be doing something innovative in the grand scheme of things, but it did something that the whole journalistic profession had forgotten how to do. Report and uncover the truth. And this is worthy of merit.
mookiemookie
01-31-11, 05:13 PM
Ah but the point is this : in the last 10-20 years journalism has basically abdicated its role of keeping in check the government (the fourth power all but gone nowadays). You know doing those kinds of inquiries and uncovering hot truths that real journalists used to do. As in the watergate scandal and the "pentagon papers" you refered to. The american journalism of the seventies and eighties was much more serious than what we have know. Its all reduced to infotainment. And wikileaks has given a good kick in the ass to the journalistic profession to make them start doing their job again and not just pay lip service to the government.
So yeah Wikileaks may not be doing something innovative in the grand scheme of things, but it did something that the whole journalistic profession had forgotten how to do. Report and uncover the truth. And this is worthy of merit.
Very well said!
Growler
01-31-11, 05:13 PM
Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?:yeah:
This. Is. Brilliant.
It's either this, or the Nobel PoS Prize.
Castout
01-31-11, 05:19 PM
No he hasn't.
Indeed he hasn't but the people or institution he's exposing would be tempted to use violence against him maybe not while he's still enjoying high media profile but when the dust has settled in some years. I feel the man is holding a vengeance. hard to believe he's not.
Castout
01-31-11, 05:24 PM
Well, to be fair, NOT being Bush is pretty HUGE
Absolutely irrelevant. Still no reason to award a nobel peace prize. Unless Obama had been actively trying not to be Bush :O: which would be saying that he was actually like Bush only that he had been actively trying not to be like Bush :haha:
I still try try to figure out what so revolutionary about wikileaks and Assange.
What is it the guy uncovered that contributed so much for world peace besides a fact that politics is dirty...war is dirty.
gimpy117
01-31-11, 05:52 PM
Well, to be fair, NOT being Bush is pretty HUGE
agree
TLAM Strike
01-31-11, 06:12 PM
Personally, I think we should award the prize to Kim Jong Il, for his heroic efforts in uniting the world through their shared hatred of him. What a guy, huh?:yeah:
The Dear Leader has already won the Nobel Peace Prize, in fact he has won all the Nobel Prizes last year. :yep:
Praise to the Dear Leader! :yeah:
:88)
krashkart
01-31-11, 09:03 PM
The Dear Leader has already won the Nobel Peace Prize, in fact he has won all the Nobel Prizes last year. :yep:
Praise to the Dear Leader! :yeah:
:88)
He also won the Indy 500 four years in a row. And he taught Phil Mickelson everything there is to know about golf while simultaneously impregnating every female on the set of Heathers. These things I know for fact. :yep:
:D
Platapus
01-31-11, 09:11 PM
The winning of the Noble Peace Prize ranks up there with being named Time's Dude of the Year. Both really mean dick.
Have you ever heard anyone say that they vehemently disagree with someone's idea but suddenly change their mind upon finding out that the idea person won the Noble Peace Prize? I haven't.
I have not heard of people running for political office with winning the Noble Prize as their core platform.
It is a private award from a private organization. It is important only if we make it important. Does anyone really remember who won the Noble Prize 10 years ago? 5 years ago?
Not much to get excited about actually. :nope:
the_tyrant
01-31-11, 10:10 PM
just like liu xiaobo last year, the nobel peace prize turned into the "piss of your local government prize"
Kim Jiong Il deserved it more, for not escalating the Korean peninsula crisis
Castout
01-31-11, 11:16 PM
Kim Jiong Il deserved it more, for not escalating the Korean peninsula crisis
I won't hold my breath for that. US and South Korea certainly haven't seen the end to North Korea brinkmanship game. I'm hoping I'm wrong here. Because if I'm right puffy missiles will grace South Korea and bombs will be falling on North Korea in return and only God knows what will happen from there on. :DL
Aramike
02-01-11, 02:28 AM
Ah but the point is this : in the last 10-20 years journalism has basically abdicated its role of keeping in check the government (the fourth power all but gone nowadays). You know doing those kinds of inquiries and uncovering hot truths that real journalists used to do. As in the watergate scandal and the "pentagon papers" you refered to. The american journalism of the seventies and eighties was much more serious than what we have know. Its all reduced to infotainment. And wikileaks has given a good kick in the ass to the journalistic profession to make them start doing their job again and not just pay lip service to the government.
So yeah Wikileaks may not be doing something innovative in the grand scheme of things, but it did something that the whole journalistic profession had forgotten how to do. Report and uncover the truth. And this is worthy of merit. While I disagree with your overall validation of Assange, your premise makes some sense...
...however, even should Assange's actions serve as essentially a "call to arms" for more valid journalism, I fail to see how it would merit a Nobel Prize.
In the end, the world is not much different now that Assange has made the leaks than it was previously with the exception perhaps of strained US relations with foreign nations and a handicapped OC intelligence community (which may actually cause harm).
I fail to see what Assange has actually DONE other than get some poor fool soldier brought up on charges that will effectively end his life.
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