USS Torsk goes to dry dock

[AVGWarhawk]

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I wish I could have been there. Nice to see she is getting the repairs she needs! :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

The Constellation also at drydock!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-ship-drydock-0130-20110130,0,1415209.story

[CCIP]

Seeing a WWII sub underway like that, even for a short time, is really a touching sight. It's like a little piece of history coming alive! Great ships both of them, of course.

[nikimcbee]

I wish I could have been there. Nice to see she is getting the repairs she needs! :yeah:

So where were you? That looks really fun to be on the sub while its sailing.:ahoy:

[Jan Kyster]

Hope they cut down that tower! :D



Nice shots! Keep 'em coming, please! :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

She is high and dry!!!

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/0202111343sm.JPG

[AVGWarhawk]

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[Jimbuna]

Seeing a WWII sub underway like that, even for a short time, is really a touching sight. It's like a little piece of history coming alive! Great ships both of them, of course.

But was she proceeding under her own steam?

That last photo shows her missing at least one of her screws :DL

[razark]

But was she proceeding under her own steam?
From the earlier pics, looks like the tug was moving her.

Thanks for sharing these pics.

[Onkel Neal]

No, keep the tower, we have examples of pure WWII fleet boat configs, we need to preserve the GUPPY configs like Torsk and Cavalla, too. :shucks:

[AVGWarhawk]

But was she proceeding under her own steam?

That last photo shows her missing at least one of her screws :DL

Tug boat pulled. The prop is in Philadelpia at a submarine memorial.

[AVGWarhawk]

No, keep the tower, we have examples of pure WWII fleet boat configs, we need to preserve the GUPPY configs like Torsk and Cavalla, too. :shucks:

Agreed. The boat is being kept in this trim. Cold war GUPPY. Need to get the damn sharks mouth off!!! :stare:

The old girl will get some new sheet metal on the belly. She is a bit soft in that area.

[razark]

Need to get the damn sharks mouth off!!! :stare:
When and why did she get that?

[Jimbuna]

Tug boat pulled. The prop is in Philadelpia at a submarine memorial.

That's what I thought :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

This is the prop location now:

http://www.usstorsk.org/photoalbum/20071207bisseytorskprop/torskprop003.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

When and why did she get that?

The city of Baltimore thought it would look cool and attract visitors. In part it does. Mouth has been there ever since I can remember. The voluteers who are doing the restoration would like it to be removed. No dice.

[razark]

The city of Baltimore thought it would look cool and attract visitors.
Figured it was something like that. :nope:

You know what might attract even more visitors? They could give it a completely different paint job:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oXOz72O7Aog/S91bLpqXb0I/AAAAAAAAAM8/6sx_6HX_w-o/s1600/Yellow+Submarine+%284%29.gif

Shame that they feel real history has to take a back seat to tourist dollars.

[ETR3(SS)]

I've always like the look of a submarine in drydock. So much of it is below the water that when you see it out of the water it is amazing. I couldn't believe how massive my boat was when I saw it in drydock the first time.

[AVGWarhawk]

Figured it was something like that. :nope:

You know what might attract even more visitors? They could give it a completely different paint job:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oXOz72O7Aog/S91bLpqXb0I/AAAAAAAAAM8/6sx_6HX_w-o/s1600/Yellow+Submarine+%284%29.gif

Shame that they feel real history has to take a back seat to tourist dollars.


Sadly this is the colors the city painted INSIDE the Torsk. Really...no kidding. The forward engines were electric blue. :88) Plus various other colors all over the place. It was not far off from marmalade skys! :doh:

[Growler]

As much as I truly loathe the shark's teeth on the boat - and I do, truly, loathe them - if it's gonna bring in a few bucks that wouldn't otherwise be there to help keep her from becoming a reef, I reckon I can live with 'em.

[TLAM Strike]

No, keep the tower, we have examples of pure WWII fleet boat configs, we need to preserve the GUPPY configs like Torsk and Cavalla, too. :shucks: Exactly, I think the Torsk is the only Fleet Snort with the old style sails preserved, the Requin has the more generic Northern Sail.

[AVGWarhawk]

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Constellation shares the same dry dock

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The size of the drydock is enormous. We see she needs some new sheets of thick steel. I understand power washing starts tomorrow if all the crude and dead fish have been removed from the floor of the dry dock.

[AVGWarhawk]

As much as I truly loathe the shark's teeth on the boat - and I do, truly, loathe them - if it's gonna bring in a few bucks that wouldn't otherwise be there to help keep her from becoming a reef, I reckon I can live with 'em.


Absolutely Growler. You know as well as I as we stood there on the deck watching, these teeth attrack the young kids who want to see 'the shark' boat. I can live with them just as long as they get a fresh coat of paint every year. :up:

[nikimcbee]

So did you take the dry dock pictures?

[razark]

Absolutely Growler. You know as well as I as we stood there on the deck watching, these teeth attrack the young kids who want to see 'the shark' boat. I can live with them just as long as they get a fresh coat of paint every year. :up:
I see your point. I'd rather see her with the teeth than see her scrapped. But I still think it's wrong. These boats shouldn't need a gimmick to bring people in.

[Growler]

I see your point. I'd rather see her with the teeth than see her scrapped. But I still think it's wrong. These boats shouldn't need a gimmick to bring people in.

Agree - totally. AVG and I have spoken on the deck of Torsk on a busy Saturday. We've seen the kids come streaming out of the big fish tank (NAIB) next door, only to be totally enraptured by the grinning shark's teeth sitting there right in front of them - it's totally inappropriate, but I'll be damned if it's not keeping some dollars coming into the boat, and I'm totally NOT against that.

The good thing is, for those who care to know, it's a short answer to their question: No, those wouldn't have been on the boat in service - they're there because Baltimore wanted to bring people to the boat. The ones who care understand - and I've garnered more than a few donations from people who do so in the hopes that their dollars will go to painting over the shark. The folks who don't get it, probably never will.

[Gargamel]

Awesome pics.

I plan on visiting, and hopefully becoming involved with, the USS Cod this summer. Right down the street form me.

[Jan Kyster]

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But glad to see there's an opportunity to donate! http://www.usstorsk.org/donations/donations.htm


Wasn't the shark teeth used on (a) war patrol? Or am I messing things up?

[TLAM Strike]

No, those wouldn't have been on the boat in service...

Why not?
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6452/post681246221357.jpg

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5339/0872114.jpg


wait for it.......


http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/4971/0826824.jpg
Painting by Robert F. Kennedy (not the one you think of)! on the bow of the Puffer (SS-268), taken while berthed in Hawaii around 15 Sept. 1945. The stern was painted like a bee stinger…possibly in gold and yellow.

[Ducimus]

Neat pictures! last Fleet boat I ever saw was the Drum, while it was still in the water back in 93.




Wasn't the shark teeth used on (a) war patrol? Or am I messing things up?

I'm gonna hazard a guess and say, no... never. For the most part, identifying marks like that just weren't done. At least not that i know of. You will find a picture or two of conning tower art, but nothing like sharks teeth. Im gonna guess again, that would give an admiral, somewhere, a kiniption.

edit:
Then again....... TLAM posts one. Being the guessing type that I am, I'm gonna say... "post war photograph?"

[razark]

Why not?
<pics snipped>

Thank you, sir. I can now rest easier.

[TLAM Strike]

Then again....... TLAM posts one. Being the guessing type that I am, I'm gonna say... "post war photograph?"

Yea "post war" but not by much; I doubt the VJ day hangovers had cleared yet. That picture was taken 1 month after Japan surrendered.

The PT boat pic was during the war though.

EDIT: One more pic:
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5743/0863202.th.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/i/0863202.jpg/)

EDIT AGAIN: TWO more...

USS Baya SS/AGSS 318
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1131/0831810.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9278/0831812.jpg
50/50 those are wartime pics.

[McBeck]

WOW...AVGWarhawk thats some great pics. You must be glad to be able to help out with something like this!

Its not every day you get to sail on a real WWII sub...eventhough its under tow :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

WOW...AVGWarhawk thats some great pics. You must be glad to be able to help out with something like this!

Its not every day you get to sail on a real WWII sub...eventhough its under tow :yeah:

Oh, I did not take these pics. These are from my fellow volunteers who restore her. The Torsk has a Facebook page/Torsk website were these are posted. I'm just gathering them up for all to see here. Been a while since I have been able to go work on the Torsk. I was not able to go aboard and there are others who let more blood, sweat and tears working on her than I. These are the folks that deserve to be on her deck while under tow. :up: Life is very busy for me right now and I can not go as often as I like. :cry:

[AVGWarhawk]

Sun article with video.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-drydock-ship-repairs-0202-20110203,0,65450.story

[McBeck]

Oh, I did not take these pics. These are from my fellow volunteers who restore her. The Torsk has a Facebook page/Torsk website were these are posted. I'm just gathering them up for all to see here. Been a while since I have been able to go work on the Torsk. I was not able to go aboard and there are others who let more blood, sweat and tears working on her than I. These are the folks that deserve to be on her deck while under tow. :up: Life is very busy for me right now and I can not go as often as I like. :cry:well...your still fortunate to have that option.
Like i am very fortunate to know somebody who has his own sub :D

[AVGWarhawk]

Like i am very fortunate to know somebody who has his own sub :D

Yes..I have seen pictures. :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

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[McBeck]

Yes..I have seen pictures. :up:And now his own space rocket :D That man is a genious!

[nikimcbee]

That's too bad you can't go as often. Thanks for the photos though.:salute:

[AVGWarhawk]

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[AVGWarhawk]

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[Jimbuna]

Great shots Chris...she is obviously pretty close to being flat bottomed in design when you look at the non-existent support beams.

[Growler]

Still looks like a killer, too, don't she? That long shot of the whole boat is just a few photoshop filters away from looking like a War Two drydock shot.

[TLAM Strike]

Still looks like a killer, too, don't she? I bet she still could be effective too.

Two of the Torsk's sisters are still in service in Taiwan. ;)

[Jimbuna]

I bet she still could be effective too.

Two of the Torsk's sisters are still in service in Taiwan. ;)

What as....submersible trawlers? :O:

[Growler]

The Turks had one, too - ex-Thornback.

Hey, Chris - this color blue look familiar?

http://mysite.verizon.net/gallimaufrey/blue.jpg

[Growler]

Did the image in that post come through? Looks AWOL.

Also, the boat allegedly still in service in the ROC Navy is ex-Cutlass: Hai Shih is currently the oldest and longest serving submarine in the world at just short of 66 years.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Turks had one, too - ex-Thornback.

Hey, Chris - this color blue look familiar?

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/0841805.jpg

I think Tim's Calverts boat USS Diablo was also a boat sold to Turks. The Diablo apparenty sunk though or was cut up. I will have to ask Tim next time I see him.

The picture I can not see.

[Ducimus]

Also, the boat allegedly still in service in the ROC Navy is ex-Cutlass: Hai Shih is currently the oldest and longest serving submarine in the world at just short of 66 years.

Now that's just scary. Helllooooo metal fatigue.

[Growler]

The picture I can not see.

Durn it. Stand by for photo fix. And... done. Original post updated.

[AVGWarhawk]

Todays work posted by Gil:


Sand blasting!

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/0207111411sm.JPG


New sheet metal aft!


http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/0207111414sm.JPG

Must be a pee hole :hmmm:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/0207111443sm.JPG

[AVGWarhawk]

YES...ELECTRIC BLUE ENGINES!!! I SO WANTED TO GET MY DISCO PANTS AND HAIRCUT. :down:

I remember that Torsk work weekend. We had a list of items to do in the engine rooms. Tim said go get this gray paint and brushes. We tossed the list. Painting began. By the end of the day the Fairbanks were the gray they were originally painted. :D What fun!

[AVGWarhawk]

What happended to the picture?

[krashkart]

Sorry about that. As soon as I posted it I saw that Growler had fixed his pic. :oops:

Just in case:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=179&pictureid=3640

[Growler]

YES...ELECTRIC BLUE ENGINES!!! I SO WANTED TO GET MY DISCO PANTS AND HAIRCUT. :down:

I remember that Torsk work weekend. We had a list of items to do in the engine rooms. Tim said go get this gray paint and brushes. We tossed the list. Painting began. By the end of the day the Fairbanks were the gray they were originally painted. :D What fun!

Oh, how I wish I was a fly on the wall that day. That picture up there is from the Turkish Tench, but when I saw it, I immediately thought of those blue, blue diesels.

[TLAM Strike]

Did the image in that post come through? Looks AWOL.

Also, the boat allegedly still in service in the ROC Navy is ex-Cutlass: Hai Shih is currently the oldest and longest serving submarine in the world at just short of 66 years.

USS Tusk SS 426 is the other

USS Thornback SS-418 was in service with the Navy of Turkey up until 2000 and Trutta SS 421 till 1999

USS Sea Leopard SS 483 served with the Brazilan Navy untill 1993

And I assume most around here know the USS Catfish SS-339 saw combat as the ARA Santa Fe S-21 in 1982

[razark]

Todays work posted by Gil:
Sand blasting!

Did anyone point out that they missed that little bit in front of the anchor?

USS Tusk SS 426 is the other

USS Thornback SS-418 was in service with the Navy of Turkey up until 2000 and Trutta SS 421 till 1999

USS Sea Leopard SS 483 served with the Brazilan Navy untill 1993

And I assume most around here know the USS Catfish SS-339 saw combat as the ARA Santa Fe S-21 in 1982
I'm just amazed at how long some of these old boats lasted. I wonder what the folks that built them and sailed against the IJN in them would have thought if they had known.

[Jimbuna]

Must be a pee hole :hmmm:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/0207111443sm.JPG

LOL :DL

[AVGWarhawk]

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb9/0209011552aa.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb9/0209011543.jpg

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb9/0209011545a.jpg

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb9/DSC06093.JPG

[Sledgehammer427]

looking great! I'll have to stop by once its back sometime :up:

[Matador.es]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-ship-repairs-20110211,0,1831676.story

It made the news :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

Great link!

[AVGWarhawk]

Sand blasting and primer continues!

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/0211111225sm.JPG

[CCIP]

Any news on fixing up those torpedo doors? I hope they do get a bit of a working-over - shame to see them in that state now.

The rest of the boat looks fantastic though - what a profile! :up:

[Growler]

No joke, CCIP. I say we take that sheet metal off of the torpedo doors and use it to fabricate hatches for the sonar dome openings.

[AVGWarhawk]

If you take note....there is a missing torpedo shutter. There are six shutters in the bow. You see only two shutters on the starboard side in the picture above. In between these two was another shutter. It is not as bad as it looks although new sheet metal would be the tops! Welding work begins this week so I'm told. In all reality the stern needs a sheet of steel. The bow is in wonderful shape compared to the port stern. A cathodic protection system is being installed as well.

http://corrosion-doctors.org/CP/Introduction.htm

[Gerald]

Very good shoots, :DL

[AVGWarhawk]

Word has it the shutters are being worked on or replaced. :yeah:

[McBeck]

Word has it the shutters are being worked on or replaced. :yeah::rock:

[AVGWarhawk]

Shutter on tube 5 removed:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb16/0216111016sm.JPG

Tube 3 access cover removed:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb16/0216111305sm.JPG

Repair on welded seam. Apparently quite a few of these are leaking and will be welded.

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb16/0216111319sm.JPG


A photographic survey of the repairs will be done this weekend.

[Matador.es]

Wow, some serious work has to be done there!

[Jimbuna]

That middle photo of three above shows just how thin her skin must be in places.

[AVGWarhawk]

That middle photo of three above shows just how thin her skin must be in places.

She has some soft spots in the belly as it were. These are being repaired. My concern is the stern is missing quite a bit of sheet metal. I'm confident she will get what she needs! :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

She has some soft spots in the belly as it were. These are being repaired. My concern is the stern is missing quite a bit of sheet metal. I'm confident she will get what she needs! :yeah:

I sincerely hope so because my experience (in the UK) is that 'once they are gone' they never return!

[nikimcbee]

Do they just chop out the this spots or are they going to patch over it, making it thicker?

[razark]

I sincerely hope so because my experience (in the UK) is that 'once they are gone' they never return!
Ducimus posted a link in the SH4 forum, showing what became of one of these boats:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=180401

Watching that video made me even more grateful of the work done to preserve some of these boats.

[Jimbuna]

Ducimus posted a link in the SH4 forum, showing what became of one of these boats:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=180401

Watching that video made me even more grateful of the work done to preserve some of these boats.

Aye rgr that, just looked at the post :nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

Do they just chop out the this spots or are they going to patch over it, making it thicker?

Yes, the soft spots are removed until good solid material is met. Then a plate is cut and welded.

Checking for leaks!!! Pressurizing the tanks!


http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb17/0217111325sm.JPG

[AVGWarhawk]

I sincerely hope so because my experience (in the UK) is that 'once they are gone' they never return!


She will get what she needs. So does the Constellation. These vessels are huge money makers for the city of Baltimore. You see they are in drydock now for repairs and not summertime when the visitors flow through them for days on end. :03:

[Ducimus]

Shutter on tube 5 removed:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb16/0216111016sm.JPG

Tube 3 access cover removed:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb16/0216111305sm.JPG

Repair on welded seam. Apparently quite a few of these are leaking and will be welded.

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb16/0216111319sm.JPG


A photographic survey of the repairs will be done this weekend.


You know it occurs to me, all this work on the superstructure, but does any maintenance get done on the seaward side of the people tank?

[AVGWarhawk]

New sheet metal! Look to the right and left of the new piece. See the other panels of steel that look quite fresh? :)


http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185664_10150092417808359_169077578358_6459647_2693 241_n.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

You know it occurs to me, all this work on the superstructure, but does any maintenance get done on the seaward side of the people tank?

A volunteer has a personal boat he motors over through the bay. He can do what needs to be done with the boat. Plus there is a work barge that is tied along side. It is quite long and very useful for working seaward. You can see the barge here:

http://www.usstorsk.org/volunteers/tww09/tww9_259.jpg

http://www.usstorsk.org/volunteers/tww09/tww9_260.jpg

[Ducimus]

I mean, the pressure hull. (aka "people tank"). The superstructure is getting the needed attention, no doubt, but does anyone crawl in the spaces under the superstructure and work on the pressure hull proper?

[Growler]

I mean, the pressure hull. (aka "people tank"). The superstructure is getting the needed attention, no doubt, but does anyone crawl in the spaces under the superstructure and work on the pressure hull proper?

Are you speaking of the void spaces between the superstructure deck and the top of the pressure hull, or are you referring to the insides of the fuel/ballast/freshwater/etc tanks?

[AVGWarhawk]

Duci, post 79 where there is a fitting welded to pressurize the tanks, this is a man hatch that was welded to the pressure tank so the tank can be inspected internally. These were installed for evey tank. The navy inspects the Torsk once a year. There is a diver that will inspect outer hull and inspect inside the pressure tanks. The cover is unbolted and inside inspected. Seabee's help with needed repairs. He can also inspect the people tank while inside the saddle tanks. There is also the lower flats (the real inner belly) at the bottom of the people tank. I have been down there in the forward engine room, below maneuvering, battery aft, battery forward, and storage under crew mess. The people tank can be inspected in these areas as well.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb22/0222110910sm.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb22/0221111047sm.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/feb22/0220110829asm.JPG

[Ducimus]

Are you speaking of the void spaces between the superstructure deck and the top of the pressure hull, or are you referring to the insides of the fuel/ballast/freshwater/etc tanks?

In plain terms, i was thinking of the outside of the pressure hull. Its my understanding that water free floods through the superstructure. So for any boat that is still sitting in water, I would think its pressure hull is still exposed to water. Not entirely of course, but the lower segments of it surely? Even still, water or no water, air still oxidizes. My minds eye is picturing rust flakes inch's deep under the main walking deck on some of those muesuem boats.

The sad state of the Drum is what got me thinking about this. I saw the drum back in 94, and she was sitting in salt water still. (not to mention a rant from Dex Armstrong, AVG probably knows the one im thinking of).

If there was a local musem boat, Id volunteer to crawl down in there under the superstructure and do the work, Im not afraid of confined spaces. But the nearest boat to me, is 800 miles away, A distance im not about to drive on a regular basis.

[Growler]

Ah, gotcha, Ducimus.

Last time I was under the superstructure deck, (ie: between the wood deck and the steel pressure hull) it looked pretty good. There are few, if any places (that I had access to, anyway) that had "deep flakes of rust" - those days are, thankfully, behind Torsk thanks in large part to the Torsk Volunteers and a few of the guys at the Museum there who try to do right by her.

You're right, btw - the area between the pressure hull and the superstructure is free-flooding, but in Torsk's case, it's been a very long time (since 1971, iirc) since that area was under any more than rainwater runoff or snow melt.

[Ducimus]

Sweet! :yeah:

[Gargamel]

Each time I read this thread, I get more and more excited about the prospect of being able to volunteer at the USS Cod when it opens up again this summer.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Constellation is in a bit worse shape than expected:

The damage, attributed to rainwater seeping into the hull from the gun ports, is expected to lengthen the ship's time in dry dock at the Sparrows Point Shipyard by 10 to 14 days and add about $70,000 to the $500,000 repair bill.



http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-constellation-rot-20110223,0,6235232.story

[Jan Kyster]

Baltimore should do what "we" did with our frigate Jylland - build a dry dock for her.

Overview shots: http://marinas.com/view/landmark/1_Fregatten_Jyllands_Ship_North_Jutland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jylland_(ship)

Pictures galore: http://www.google.com/images?q=fregatten%20jylland&hl=da&rls=com.microsoft:da:IE-SearchBox&prmd=ivns&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1360&bih=1027



Nice to watch progress on the Torsk! :salute:

[AVGWarhawk]

That would be a wonderful idea however I suspect the additional 70k to make repairs now is much less than building a completely new dry dock. Plus, the portion of the inner harbor that would be affected by the new construction would not be pretty for store owners and the aquarium. It would be a taunting task. Something about the allure of a floating vessel/boat is in keeping concerning the inner harbor of Baltimore. The odd thing here is both the Torsk and the Constellation are in the same dry dock. If the Constellation has to stay for 6 months so does the Torsk! :o

[Growler]

That would be a wonderful idea however I suspect the additional 70k to make repairs now is much less than building a completely new dry dock. Plus, the portion of the inner harbor that would be affected by the new construction would not be pretty for store owners and the aquarium. It would be a taunting task. Something about the allure of a floating vessel/boat is in keeping concerning the inner harbor of Baltimore. The odd thing here is both the Torsk and the Constellation are in the same dry dock. If the Constellation has to stay for 6 months so does the Torsk! :o

What's this plug do?



oops.

[AVGWarhawk]

:har:

You mean this one?

http://file047a.bebo.com/18/large/2009/03/11/13/10803371a10317631291l.jpg

[Growler]

Got to spend a few minutes with the guys at the dry dock today. Not too many pictures that haven't been seen already, but I'll post 'em when I get back to a place where I can.

Totally neat experience.

[AVGWarhawk]

Excellent. Please post up your pics!

[AVGWarhawk]

More metal work!

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar1/0301111046sm.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar1/0301111453sm.JPG

[TLAM Strike]

More metal work!

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar1/0301111046sm.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar1/0301111453sm.JPG

Did no one explain to them that the shutter doors need to be able to open to be of any use?

Where did they learn to refit a sub? A Soviet Shipyard?
Comrades to increase seaworthiness we are welding all the hatches watertight...

:O:

[AVGWarhawk]

At this point in her life her bark is truly worse than her bite! All show and now go!

[Growler]

Did no one explain to them that the shutter doors need to be able to open to be of any use?

Where did they learn to refit a sub? A Soviet Shipyard?
Comrades to increase seaworthiness we are welding all the hatches watertight...

:O:

I kept trying to convince them to leave one aft tube operable, with enough air in the tanks for a water slug.

See, every summer, there's this "pirate ship" that cruises (ok, TROLLS!) the Inner Harbor and blares the soundtrack from Pirate of the Caribbean over and over and over again. I figured one good water slug, and they'd leave us alone.:D

[Matador.es]

Found this on the net:
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110119/GPG03/101190734/0/GPG1009/Burger-Boat-work-Manitowoc-s-WWII-submarine?odyssey=nav|head

[CCIP]

Shame they have to weld the tubes like that, but I'd rather see them closed than rotting in the sorry state they are now. Anything to make her more watertight is a plus.

[AVGWarhawk]

Removing the prop from the shaft. I need to find out were the prop is going. Did not know it was going somewhere: :hmmm:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar3/0303111412sm.JPG

[CCIP]

Nooo, they're taking away the last prop? Well darn :cry:

[AVGWarhawk]

Found this on the net:
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110119/GPG03/101190734/0/GPG1009/Burger-Boat-work-Manitowoc-s-WWII-submarine?odyssey=nav|head

Nice to see she is getting some care. :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

Nooo, they're taking away the last prop? Well darn :cry:


Not sure CCIP. I have not heard of anything. Then again there was no word it was coming off. However, if it goes to a memorial then so be it. Beats rotting away in the murky waters of the harbor.


Edit:

Word has it the prop will be part of a display for the Torsk proper at her pier!!!! :yeah:


March 4, 1968 - Torsk was decomissioned at the Boston Naval Shipyard.

[Jimbuna]

Not sure CCIP. I have not heard of anything. Then again there was no word it was coming off. However, if it goes to a memorial then so be it. Beats rotting away in the murky waters of the harbor.


Edit:

Word has it the prop will be part of a display for the Torsk proper at her pier!!!! :yeah:


March 4, 1968 - Torsk was decomissioned at the Boston Naval Shipyard.

Let's hope so :yep:

*From a Brit who's country can be ar$ed to save very much from the breakers yard*

[Growler]

Guys, I was there when the TVA "cut the deal" with the museum. I don't know the specifics, but I am next-to-100%-certain that the TVA has plans for the other screw; over the years, that prop has been on the pier side of the boat, and sustained minor damage from occasional bumps into the bulwark. Against any more damage being sustained, as well as the severe electrolytic dissimilar metal corrosion that's taken place, the museum apparently decided to allow the TVA to "buy" the prop (ie: pay the costs necessary for the removal and restoration of the prop) and set it up on Pier 3 as part of a display.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar7/0307111350sm.JPG


Screw is off and will go to ship stores for safe keeping.

[Growler]

It's gonna be weird looking down into that murky water of the Inner Harbor and not seeing that prop lurking there.

[AVGWarhawk]

Truth be told I never attempted to look. I think it is a great idea making the prop a display dockside.

[AVGWarhawk]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183693_10150104961643359_169077578358_6589161_1444 020_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189461_10150104961683359_169077578358_6589163_4368 314_n.jpg

[razark]

How old is that prop, and what sort of care has it undergone?

I guess I expected it to look a bit more worn out than it does.

[TLAM Strike]

[QUOTE=razark;1614943]How old is that prop?QUOTE] I'm guessing it was installed sometime in the 1960's when the ship was last in service... :hmmm:

[AVGWarhawk]

How old is that prop, and what sort of care has it undergone?

I guess I expected it to look a bit more worn out than it does.

Before the pressure washing:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/167786_497488193358_169077578358_6350807_3613195_n .jpg


I'm not sure if the prop is original from 1945 or had been replaced at sometime in her career. But yes, it is in good shape from the looks of it.

[Growler]

There's an image on the SS-423 Facebook page that shows (faintly) an engraved line on the trailing edge of that prop that indicates: "Trailing Edge Modified 7-20-58" so we know it was there at least that long.

[razark]

Before the pressure washing:
Well, I expected it had been cleaned off. I meant I expected a bit of corrosion from sitting in the water so long.

[Jimbuna]

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar7/0307111350sm.JPG


Screw is off and will go to ship stores for safe keeping.

Chris....that picture brings back so many memories of working on the 'tail end squad' as an apprentice fitter in a shiprepair yard on the River Tyne (73-77) :yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar9/0309111100sm.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar9/0309111107sm.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar9/0309111258sm.JPG

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar9/0309111354sm.JPG

[ReallyDedPoet]

Nice pics Chris :yep::up:

[Growler]

They missed a spot. :O:


Looks great, really.

[razark]

They missed a spot.
:sign_yeah:

[AVGWarhawk]

They missed a spot. :O:


Looks great, really.

No, they did not miss the spot:

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar9/0309111355SwimmyTheShadsm.jpg

She does look great. :yeah:

[Growler]

I was wondering where that went.

[AVGWarhawk]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199880_10150109956088359_169077578358_6631915_1173 047_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189093_10150109956873359_169077578358_6631938_6583 350_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197851_10150109957103359_169077578358_6631945_3416 757_n.jpg

[Platapus]

http://www.usstorsk.org/weekend/2011ddk/mar9/0309111107sm.JPG





https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199880_10150109956088359_169077578358_6631915_1173 047_n.jpg



https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197851_10150109957103359_169077578358_6631945_3416 757_n.jpg

Granted that I am as myopic as a Myotis Lucifugus

But I only see two bow torpedo tubes and one stern tubes (making four bow and 2 stern).

Was a set of the bow tubes removed for the sonar attachment? And if so, what about the sub's butt. Shouldn't there be two tubes on each side?

[Growler]

Plat, if you look closely at the bow photos, you'll see the two lower shutter doors between the boat and the dry dock wall. I'm guessing those will be reinstalled(?) I hope!

There were six tubes forward, four aft - the middle two tubes forward had the shutters plated over, as were the top two tubes aft (at both ends, corresponding - roughly - with the waterline as the boat sits in the harbor these days).

The two lower shutter doors aft were removed in the 50's or early sixties, iirc.

[Platapus]

the middle two tubes forward had the shutters plated over, as were the top two tubes aft (at both ends, corresponding - roughly - with the waterline as the boat sits in the harbor these days).



Ah! Thanks for explaining that. That makes sense... even to me. :88)

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm guessing those will be reinstalled(?) I hope!


The door was blasted and painted. I believe the door will be reinstalled.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Torsk will go home Monday:


Torsk came through with only a few small surprises. "The extra time in dock has been good for the sub," Rowsom said, and she returns with three fresh coats of epoxy paint.

The sub's one remaining bronze propeller was removed, he said, and will be incorporated into a local memorial to the men of the World War II submarine service.






http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-constellation-preview-20110317,0,2421557.story

[Jimbuna]

Good job was done by all...I'm sure she'll be happy to return home :salute:

[AVGWarhawk]

Torsk arrived to here berth yesterday. These are the last days photos before the dry dock was no longer dry...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188999_10150115941728359_169077578358_6686282_5819 33_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196839_10150115941788359_169077578358_6686284_2320 80_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/196605_10150115941803359_169077578358_6686285_7817 057_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198257_10150115942043359_169077578358_6686296_3287 058_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188683_10150115942098359_169077578358_6686298_4625 204_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199803_10150115943218359_169077578358_6686350_2133 251_n.jpg

[Platapus]

About how long did it take to fill up?

[AVGWarhawk]

Flood gates opened at 9pm I believe. 0700 it was dock was full. Torsk was off her blocks with a noticable list. Tanks were filled with fresh water to correct the list.

[JSLTIGER]

They never repaired those access hatches to the sonar dome, did they?

Also major bummer about her losing her second prop...

[CCIP]

Good to see her back at her station!

[AVGWarhawk]

They never repaired those access hatches to the sonar dome, did they?

Also major bummer about her losing her second prop...

Time and money for hatch covers. :oops: The prop will be displayed pier side of the Torsk. She did not loose it. It will be sitting next to her on the pier as a memorial. :up:

[Growler]

Darn. No grey-paint-bucket-accidents-above-the-bow-tubes.

Drat.:DL

[JSLTIGER]

Time and money for hatch covers. :oops: The prop will be displayed pier side of the Torsk. She did not loose it. It will be sitting next to her on the pier as a memorial. :up:

Personally, I'd rather it'd still be attached to her...that seems like a better use of the prop to me...keeps the boat a bit more intact. Just IMHO though.

[AVGWarhawk]

I thought so as well but why let the muck of the inner harbor hide the prop when it can mounted and admired plus become a memorial? I like the idea. :DL