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stoianm

01-28-11, 02:10 PM

Hi again guys,

I want to learn to use Real navigation by TDW but i did not find nothing on this forum.

Can somebody to explain (like step by step) how to use Real navigation, please?

I instaled the mod but i was not been able to move my Uboat:D

Thanks!

TheDarkWraith

01-28-11, 02:26 PM

stoianm

01-28-11, 02:31 PM

I will. Thanks!

THE_MASK

01-28-11, 03:40 PM

If you install Trevally Automated Scripts v0.3 , it has a nice Auto nav plot script . You can be TC to your destination and the Navigator will plot you position marks every so often . Fantastic mod .

stoianm

01-28-11, 03:48 PM

If you install Trevally Automated Scripts v0.3 , it has a nice Auto nav plot script . You can be TC to your destination and the Navigator will plot you position marks every so often . Fantastic mod .

Be more explicite please sober. I must to install the trevally scripts 03?

I have them - what i must do after - i go in automation and play wich script?

Explain to me step by step (no need to hear from you ,,holly mother of god,,:har:) please. I tried to manage that but until nou i can not move my Uboat. In the time that you wrote me i was searching the forum but i still not have a clue yet how to navigate by real.

Thanks!:salute:

THE_MASK

01-28-11, 03:58 PM

No more holy mother of gawd , i get myself in too much trouble :O:
What is problem ?

stoianm

01-28-11, 04:04 PM

No more holy mother of gawd , i get myself in too much trouble :O:
What is problem ?

Please explain to me step by step (like i am at kindergarden) how i can navigate with real navigation - before i just ploted with my mouse the corce - very easy - now i am not able to move the ship.

THE_MASK

01-28-11, 04:47 PM

Install the mod
Click on the 2 wheel icon on the right , brings up the automation panel .
Click on real navigation.
Click on position on patrol .
Click on script which is close to your clock time.
Click on activated scripts to turn green .
Click on the Play button .
Click X on the automation panel to hide interface.

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/909/reallgv.jpg (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/reallgv.jpg/)

stoianm

01-28-11, 04:51 PM

:D Ok - i follow that - next step:

i want to navigate to a located patrol area - how i do the ploting?

TheDarkWraith

01-28-11, 04:53 PM

:D Ok - i follow that - next step:

i want to navigate to a located patrol area - how i do the ploting?

add navigational fixes (if plotting by hand) or ask navigator to determine current position

stoianm

01-28-11, 04:59 PM

Now i just understood wy i did not found what you just posted for me sober - before i enabled the travelly mod i saw a post of you with some modification that you made at the travelly tutorial, i made the same changes and i deleted some lines that i was thinking i will not use:har:
My trevally enabled mod script it is like that now:
;Trevally Automated Scripts v0.3
[AS]
Deck Gun With ZigZag
[DESCRIPTION]
You must be surfaced before running script.
Finish off that wounded merchant whilst
running a zigzag to reduce return fire.
[DESCRIPTION_END]
[CATEGORY]
Attack
[SUBCATEGORY]
Surface Attack
[COMMANDS]
Ahead_full,0,0,0,0,0,0,15
Set_guns,0,0,0,2,2,0,1
Advanced_knuckle,45,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,8,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-45,0,20,8,0,0,15
[COMMANDS_END]

[AS]
Flak Guns With ZigZag
[DESCRIPTION]
You must be surfaced before running script.
Attack aeroplanes with flak guns whilst running
zigzags at flank to reduce chance of damage.
[DESCRIPTION_END]
[CATEGORY]
Attack
[SUBCATEGORY]
Surface Attack
[COMMANDS]
Ahead_standard,0,0,0,0,0,0,10
Set_guns,2,1,0,2,2,0,1
Set_guns,-1,-1,-1,-1,4,0,1
Advanced_knuckle,45,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,90,0,20,20,0,0,15
Advanced_knuckle,-45,0,20,20,0,0,15
[COMMANDS_END]

[AS]
No Station Hydrophone check
[DESCRIPTION]
You must be below decks before running script.
Use this in your patrol area after you have set waypoints.
You will cruise at TC 128 for 2 hours.
Then a TC 32 Hydro check and baffles.
Looped for 24hrs.
TC will drop to your option.py setting
if contact detected.
[DESCRIPTION_END]
[CATEGORY]
Search
[SUBCATEGORY]
Search on patrol
[COMMANDS]
Set_Time_Compression,8,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ahead_standard,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Activate_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,1,0
Set_new_depth,25,0,0,0,0,0,60
All_stop,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Set_Time_Compression,32,0,0,0,0,0,0
Hydrophone_normal_sweep,0,0,0,0,0,0,120
Ahead_standard,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Set_Time_Compression,8,0,0,0,0,0,0
Set_new_course,90,0,0,0,0,0,60
All_stop,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Set_Time_Compression,32,0,0,0,0,0,0
Hydrophone_normal_sweep,0,0,0,0,0,0,120
Report_nearest_sound_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ahead_standard,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Set_Time_Compression,4,0,0,0,0,0,0
Return_to_course,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Surface,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Set_Time_Compression,128,0,0,0,0,0,7200
Loop,12,0,0,0,0,0,0
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
[COMMANDS_END]

[AS]
Patrol with hydro check at station (looped)
[DESCRIPTION]
You must be below decks before running script.
Looped hydrophone check with
2hr high TC surface run. Sound check
is at station and takes 2mins to sweep.
Midway to loop there is a uzo sweep.
[DESCRIPTION_END]
[CATEGORY]
Search
[SUBCATEGORY]
Search on patrol
[COMMANDS]
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,2
Leave_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ahead_full,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Set_new_depth,20,0,0,0,0,0,60
All_stop,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,2
Activate_hydrophone_station,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Sweep_hydrophone,0,360,120,3073,0,0,1
Report_nearest_sound_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Leave_hydrophone_station,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Hydrophone_normal_sweep,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
Ahead_one third,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Snorkel_depth,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Snorkel_depth,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
Snorkel_depth,0,0,0,0,0,0,30
Rise_whole_obs_periscope,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Activate_Scope_Station,1,0,0,0,0,0,5
Sweep_Scope,1,0,360,60.0,192,0,10; abort stop
Leave_Scope_Station,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
Report_nearest_visual_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,10
Lower_whole_obs_periscope,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ahead_full,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Surface,0,0,0,0,0,0,60
Ahead_one third,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Activate_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Radar_turn_on,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Radar_set_continuous_sweep_mode,0,0,0,0,0,0,30
Report_nearest_radio_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Radar_turn_off,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Set_Time_Compression,128,0,0,0,0,0,3600
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,2
Activate_Scope_Station,2,0,0,0,0,0,1
Sweep_Scope,2,0,360,60,457,0,2
Leave_Scope_Station,2,0,0,0,0,0,0
Radar_turn_on,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Radar_set_continuous_sweep_mode,0,0,0,0,0,0,10
Report_nearest_radio_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Radar_turn_off,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Activate_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Set_Time_Compression,128,0,0,0,0,0,3600
Loop,12,0,0,0,0,0,0
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,5
[COMMANDS_END]

[AS]
Pesky Aeroplanes!
[DESCRIPTION]
You must be below decks before running script.
You must be inside boat before using.
Crash dive to 50m flank for 30mins.
Check and surface.
[DESCRIPTION_END]
[CATEGORY]
Evasion
[SUBCATEGORY]
Aeroplanes attacking
[COMMANDS]
Wait,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Crash_dive_now,0,0,0,0,0,0,15
Get_depth_under_sub_keel,0,0,0,0,0,0,15
Set_new_depth,50,0,0,0,0,0,1
Activate_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,90
Ahead_slow,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Hydrophone_normal_sweep,0,0,0,0,0,0,10
Report_nearest_sound_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
Set_Time_Compression,128,0,0,0,0,0,0
Wait,0,0,0,0,0,0,1800
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
Leave_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Snorkel_depth,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Snorkel_depth,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
Snorkel_depth,0,0,0,0,0,0,50
Rise_whole_obs_periscope,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Activate_Scope_Station,1,0,0,0,0,0,5
Sweep_Scope,1,0,360,60.0,192,0,10; abort stop
Leave_Scope_Station,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
Report_nearest_visual_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,10
Lower_whole_obs_periscope,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ahead_full,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Surface,0,0,0,0,0,0,40
Activate_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Set_guns,2,1,0,2,2,0,5
Set_guns,-1,-1,-1,-1,4,0,5
Radar_turn_on,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Radar_set_continuous_sweep_mode,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Report_nearest_radio_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Ahead_standard,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
[COMMANDS_END]
:har:
I must to rewritte again. Thanks!

stoianm

01-28-11, 05:04 PM

add navigational fixes (if plotting by hand) or ask navigator to determine current position

I have an ideea now but i can not be sure that i understood 100%. I will give a try and come back if i have more questions.

I am soryy if i am to insistent and brainless (at this hour) but i promise that after i will learn to use real nav you will se no more dumbt question from my side.

Thanks!

TheDarkWraith

01-28-11, 05:05 PM

there is no dumb question :yep: There are probably others wondering the same things you are but are too afraid to ask

THE_MASK

01-28-11, 05:19 PM

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2392/travelud.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/travelud.jpg/)

stoianm

01-28-11, 05:22 PM

Ok - next step:hmmm:

Trevally.

01-28-11, 05:31 PM

I am updating to version 0.4 for these scripts.

[AS]
Patrol with hydro check at station (looped)
[DESCRIPTION]
You must be below decks before running script.
Looped hydrophone check with
2hr high TC surface run. Sound check
is at station and takes 2mins to sweep.
Midway to loop there is a uzo sweep.
[DESCRIPTION_END]
[CATEGORY]
Search
[SUBCATEGORY]
Search on patrol
[COMMANDS]
Set_Time_Compression,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
Leave_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ahead_full,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Set_new_depth,20,0,0,0,0,0,50
All_stop,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
Activate_hydrophone_station,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Sweep_hydrophone,0,360,120,3073,0,0,1
Report_nearest_sound_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Leave_hydrophone_station,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Hydrophone_normal_sweep,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
Ahead_one_third,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Snorkel_depth,0,0,0,0,0,0,30
Rise_whole_obs_periscope,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Activate_Scope_Station,1,0,0,0,0,0,5
Sweep_Scope,1,0,360,60.0,192,0,2; abort stop
Leave_Scope_Station,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
Lower_whole_obs_periscope,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Report_nearest_visual_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,10
Set_Time_Compression,2,0,0,0,0,0,2
Ahead_full,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Surface,0,0,0,0,0,0,60
Ahead_standard,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Activate_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Radar_turn_on,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Radar_set_continuous_sweep_mode,0,0,0,0,0,0,30
Report_nearest_radio_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Radar_turn_off,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
Set_Time_Compression,128,0,0,0,0,0,3600
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,2
Activate_Scope_Station,2,0,0,0,0,0,1
Sweep_Scope,2,0,360,60,457,0,2
Leave_Scope_Station,2,0,0,0,0,0,0
Radar_turn_on,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Radar_set_continuous_sweep_mode,0,0,0,0,0,0,10
Report_nearest_radio_contact,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Radar_turn_off,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Activate_NavMap_Station,0,0,0,0,0,0,5
Set_Time_Compression,128,0,0,0,0,0,3600
Loop,12,0,0,0,0,0,0
Set_Time_Compression,1,0,0,0,0,0,5
[COMMANDS_END]

This is very similar to the one Sober posted - with obs scope search prior to surface.

Also adding a new one for "no station search on patrol for real nav"
This is a fast hydro check and baffels without active stations. 2hrs looped. If contact is found - TC will drop to your options.py settings.
This one replaces the "return to waypoint" command that is in the non-real nav version.

THE_MASK

01-28-11, 05:37 PM

Very nice Trevally . I nearly caught you off stradbroke island last week :O:

stoianm

01-29-11, 03:17 AM

Very nice Trevally . I nearly caught you off stradbroke island last week :O:

I read this trhread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/album.php?u=223410 and i saw your up to date list: do you play the game with ,,map contacts - off''? If Yes, how do you manage to know if a ship or a DDs it is capable to see you or not - what kind of ,,tactis'' you use to prevent the enemy seeing you (with map contact - on - very easy doing that but now:hmmm:)?

With respect:salute:, your best student!:D

THE_MASK

01-29-11, 03:30 AM

I read this trhread: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/album.php?u=223410 and i saw your up to date list: do you play the game with ,,map contacts - off''? If Yes, how do you manage to know if a ship or a DDs it is capable to see you or not - what kind of ,,tactis'' you use to prevent the enemy seeing you (with map contact - on - very easy doing that but now:hmmm:)?

With respect:salute:, your best student!:D Try playing new career 100% realistic . Its a diffrent game , very scary sometimes . The first time i played with no external camera and i dived i said to myself how do i see anything , thats when i think hydrophone operator is my best friend .

stoianm

01-29-11, 03:52 AM

Wy your ''fog mod'' seems to be in conflict with your ,,sky'' mod?

I enabled the ''fog one'' first and the ''sky'' one at the end!

THE_MASK

01-29-11, 04:00 AM

Wy your ''fog mod'' seems to be in conflict with your ,,sky'' mod?

I enabled the ''fog one'' first and the ''sky'' one at the end!
Ignore the conflict , it works fine .

stoianm

01-29-11, 06:36 AM

Sober, you can follow me and correct where i am wrong please:

1. i am in buker(Kiel) - i start the autopilot and he will put my the other part of Kiel canal.

2. when the autopilot is off i calculate the exact position where i am and i draw a line from where i am until where i want to be (patrol area)

3. i look at clock (nav time) and i activate the ,,real nav auto position fix'' corespondent to the time

- here i have few concerns:
- you told me that i must to calculate the distance untill the next point where i want to be and the time that i need to be there (in raport with the speed that i will chose) - why i need the 2 things: distance and time - where and when i must to use this 2 things?

4. After that i calculate the heading that i must to put in my Uboat (in degres) to reach the next point, i order this heding and i start the engines ( at the speed that i used to calculate the time needed to reach next point).

- in meentimes, if i see that i have a lot of deviation from the cource that i wanted to have what i am supose to do: repeat the steps 2-4?

- i understood that i can to add (to plot) new points by myself. How this work:

1) i calculate the position where i am - i draw a line betwen where i am and next point. I plot a nav point at the end of the drawed line. I just order the engine on (without ordering the heading) and my Ubot will start to heding by himself to next point? - i think that i am wrong here?:hmmm:
- if i am wrong what is the use for aded (ploted) nav point?:o

Thanks!

Trevally.

01-29-11, 01:26 PM

Very nice Trevally . I nearly caught you off stradbroke island last week :O:

:har:

Im that sneaky one that never bites:arrgh!:

d3vnu11

03-24-11, 05:59 AM

Anyone happen to know the height of the light houses around Kiel ? Would be nice to use them for the intended purpose of navigational fixes :)