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TLAM Strike

01-27-11, 04:15 PM

Ducimus

01-27-11, 04:45 PM

What an off duty Air Force Pilot of the future will look like:

http://www.irintech.com/x1/images/jean/obese-flight.jpg
He has lots of stick time on that remote control. G forces? Thing of the past! It's all about Armchair flying baby!

papa_smurf

01-27-11, 05:34 PM

nikimcbee

01-27-11, 05:49 PM

I clicked to zoom in on the image and got a virus!:nope:
It was a pop-up window saying my computer had a virus and click to remove it.

Dowly

01-27-11, 06:00 PM

I clicked to zoom in on the image and got a virus!:nope:
It was a pop-up window saying my computer had a virus and click to remove it.

:88)

the_tyrant

01-27-11, 06:02 PM

I clicked to zoom in on the image and got a virus!:nope:
It was a pop-up window saying my computer had a virus and click to remove it.

I don't know man, but i don't think so
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Gerald

01-27-11, 06:46 PM

I don't know man, but i don't think so
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the_tyrant

01-27-11, 06:55 PM

By the way,regarding to your signature Obama, so you can easily hide your ip information...if you want.

I need a new sig, don't know what i should pick yet

Gerald

01-27-11, 07:00 PM

I need a new sig, don't know what i should pick yet A photo of your wife / girlfriend or a dog or a submarine, only your imagination can determine the...

Castout

01-27-11, 08:17 PM

I need a new sig, don't know what i should pick yet

Indeed that sig is so half a decade ago :haha:

Ducimus

01-27-11, 11:08 PM

I clicked to zoom in on the image and got a virus!:nope:
It was a pop-up window saying my computer had a virus and click to remove it.

Please tell me you didn't fall for that.

TLAM Strike

01-27-11, 11:21 PM

I clicked to zoom in on the image and got a virus!:nope:
It was a pop-up window saying my computer had a virus and click to remove it.

Are you sure it wasn't referring to your STD status? :O:

CptSimFreak

01-27-11, 11:31 PM

I saw this image and noticed something interesting.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2896/080228f0528c004.th.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/i/080228f0528c004.jpg/)

See it? About 25 air to ground strike silhouettes painted on. Not long before we start seeing aircraft silhouettes painted on there too...

25 training shots....notice blue stripe on hellfire. Picture looks like was taking at Creech AFB. In AOR they don't paint that **** for obvious reasons.

Air to Air combat? :rotfl2: Yeah. Good luck with that.

Stealth Hunter

01-28-11, 01:04 AM

Oh how the good old days have gone.

http://www.vlib.us/wwi/resources/archives/images/i050203/images/GERM%232DE.jpg

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the man to the far left standing behind von Richthofen the famed Erich Loewenhardt?

Gargamel

01-28-11, 01:19 AM

25 training shots....notice blue stripe on hellfire. Picture looks like was taking at Creech AFB. In AOR they don't paint that **** for obvious reasons.

Air to Air combat? :rotfl2: Yeah. Good luck with that.

Wouldnt be that hard at all to equip them with some AMRAAMS, slave the seeker head to the nearest AWACs, and have the guy in the AWACS push the fire button.

HunterICX

01-28-11, 05:13 AM

Oh how the good old days have gone.

True, when the aircraft was just a tool and it was the pilot's experience and skill that mattered.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the man to the far left standing behind von Richthofen the famed Erich Loewenhardt?

can't tell ...but I recognize Anthony Fokker sitting next to Richtofen.

HunterICX

krashkart

01-28-11, 05:23 AM

Gargamel

01-28-11, 05:28 AM

Train your kids on teh Xboxorz! :yeah:

$#@%^ #$#$% @#&$@%!!! Suck all the life out of wanting to fly combat aircraft. Christ. Clear back into the late eighties they started screwing us with these damn drones. :nope:

At least the trash haulers will have something to look forward to. Until someone figures out how to automate that, too. The ****ers. :shifty:

Actually, isn't the majority of commercial aircraft semi-automated already?

I'd think it wouldn't be that hard to automate heavy lifting aircraft over routine routes for military.

CptSimFreak

01-28-11, 09:14 AM

Wouldnt be that hard at all to equip them with some AMRAAMS, slave the seeker head to the nearest AWACs, and have the guy in the AWACS push the fire button.

That is not going to work with 20+ year old aircraft (AWACS). Also usual ROE is to have visual confirmation and finding something through a straw with 2-3 second delay is a huge limiting factor.

TLAM Strike

01-28-11, 09:39 AM

Wouldnt be that hard at all to equip them with some AMRAAMS, slave the seeker head to the nearest AWACs, and have the guy in the AWACS push the fire button. The Reaper is already cleared for carrying the AIM-9s IIRC.

That is not going to work with 20+ year old aircraft (AWACS). Also usual ROE is to have visual confirmation and finding something through a straw with 2-3 second delay is a huge limiting factor.
Well against a foe like China armed drones would give us an edge, and of course the drone has its own sensors to get an ID and since its a lot smaller than a manned aircraft it can get closer to a potential enemy fighter with less risk of being detected.

Growler

01-28-11, 10:25 AM

*sigh*

Snoopy would be so disappointed.

http://www.songfacts.com/songimages/2774.jpg

CptSimFreak

01-28-11, 09:54 PM

Well against a foe like China armed drones would give us an edge, and of course the drone has its own sensors to get an ID and since its a lot smaller than a manned aircraft it can get closer to a potential enemy fighter with less risk of being detected.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

There is a Russian saying - If grandma had balls, she would be a grandpa.

If this if that... If China didn't have anti-sat tech and if you could get real-time-no-delay image not through a straw. That's too many IFs.

Molon Labe

01-28-11, 10:57 PM

What happens when you get your Predator shot down? Is that a sad day? Do you cry a little? Or do you just say "F___ it, I'm gonna get a cup of coffee."

TLAM Strike

01-28-11, 10:57 PM

You have no idea what you're talking about.

There is a Russian saying - If grandma had balls, she would be a grandpa.

If this if that... If China didn't have anti-sat tech and if you could get real-time-no-delay image not through a straw. That's too many IFs.

Excuse me Mr. 428 Posts?

I've already said plenty on the subject of ASAT warfare... (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1563284&postcount=13)

Shooting down/hard kill a low altitude recon bird is very different than taking out a GPS or SATCOM bird which are in much higher orbits; Comsats are up at 36,000 km, GPS is slightly lower at 20,000 km, recon birds like to hang out at around 400 km. That extra 30,000 km in alt gives huge space to maneuver.

Plus drones can be controlled line of sight (DASH anyone?), an AWACS type controller aircraft at 30,000 feet could feasibly have LOS RF control of a drone 200 miles away. And one drone at the same altitude could be a rely to others...

What happens when you get your Predator shot down? Is that a sad day? Do you cry a little? Or do you just say "F___ it, I'm gonna get a cup of coffee."

I insert another quarter...

Gargamel

01-28-11, 11:35 PM

That is not going to work with 20+ year old aircraft (AWACS). Also usual ROE is to have visual confirmation and finding something through a straw with 2-3 second delay is a huge limiting factor.

I bet it would if they swapped out some of the systems. I would not be surprised if they could have a whole squadron under AWACS control within a few weeks if they wanted.

CptSimFreak

01-29-11, 12:22 AM

Excuse me Mr. 428 Posts?

I've already said plenty on the subject of ASAT warfare... (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1563284&postcount=13)

Shooting down/hard kill a low altitude recon bird is very different than taking out a GPS or SATCOM bird which are in much higher orbits; Comsats are up at 36,000 km, GPS is slightly lower at 20,000 km, recon birds like to hang out at around 400 km. That extra 30,000 km in alt gives huge space to maneuver.

Plus drones can be controlled line of sight (DASH anyone?), an AWACS type controller aircraft at 30,000 feet could feasibly have LOS RF control of a drone 200 miles away. And one drone at the same altitude could be a rely to others...

I insert another quarter...

What does my post count have anything to do with this? What kind of flawed logic is that? Don't be a dushbag. Mkay?

If AWACS is a HVLD assets, which it is, then why is freaking technology from ping-pond era (with no plans to change)? Do you really think that you can stick GCS into already heavily loaded airplane and expect a pilot to use Cband and arrive to a perfect SA required for fighter pilot? Do you really think ATO would allow that kind of ROE?

Educate your self a bit on UAS. Start from FM3-04.15 on unclassified level and then go to a vault if you have the need to know.

TLAM Strike

01-29-11, 01:08 AM

If AWACS is a HVLD assets, which it is, then why is freaking technology from ping-pond era (with no plans to change)? Do you really think that you can stick GCS into already heavily loaded airplane and expect a pilot to use Cband and arrive to a perfect SA required for fighter pilot? Do you really think ATO would allow that kind of ROE?

I guess Boeing didn't get that memo. They are flight testing the Blk 40/45 E-3s right now with full deployment expected in 2016. (http://www.deagel.com/news/US-Air-Force-E-3-AWACS-Fleet-Enters-Block-4045-Modernization-Program_n000008102.aspx)

Or maybe you have heard of a little plane known as the E-2D Advanced Hawkeye? Back in 2009 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2009/06/mil-090605-nns01.htm) it did almost exactly what I'm talking about! It detected and tracked a LACM then engaged it with a SM-6 (guided by the E-2D) deployed from a another asset. AEGIS ships are already built to do this and have been from the beginning, why else would the Spruances be equipped to fire SM-2s!

Yea I do know what I'm talking about...

CptSimFreak

01-29-11, 01:57 AM

Yea I do know what I'm talking about...
No you don't. I'll leave it at that.

If you have a .mil we can discuss it there.

Ducimus

01-29-11, 01:49 PM

Train your kids on teh Xboxorz! :yeah:

$#@%^ #$#$% @#&$@%!!! Suck all the life out of wanting to fly combat aircraft. Christ. Clear back into the late eighties they started screwing us with these damn drones. :nope:

At least the trash haulers will have something to look forward to. Until someone figures out how to automate that, too. The ****ers. :shifty:

Applicable or related:

JDAM Blues. (http://www.dooferbook.com/dooferbook-videos/video/22/DOS-GRINGOS-JDAM-BLUES.html)

Platapus

01-29-11, 01:54 PM

http://www.strategypage.com/humor/articles/military_jokes_200551221.asp

Sailor Steve

01-29-11, 01:57 PM

What does my post count have anything to do with this? What kind of flawed logic is that? Don't be a dushbag. Mkay?

If AWACS is a HVLD assets, which it is, then why is freaking technology from ping-pond era (with no plans to change)? Do you really think that you can stick GCS into already heavily loaded airplane and expect a pilot to use Cband and arrive to a perfect SA required for fighter pilot? Do you really think ATO would allow that kind of ROE?

Educate your self a bit on UAS. Start from FM3-04.15 on unclassified level and then go to a vault if you have the need to know.
That is about as arrogant and dismissive a post as I've read in some time. Disagree and argue all you want, but don't tell people they don't know what they're talking about, and don't be calling them names (by the way, it's "douchebag"). Insulting people and talking down to them makes your own arguments less believable.

Please tone it down a bit.

Ducimus

01-29-11, 02:06 PM

Predator Eulogy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-kNPKNCtg&feature=related
Dos Gringos rip up the Predator UAV.

US Air Force Predator recruiting video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEEnSKxf2x8&feature=related

Molon Labe

01-29-11, 03:52 PM

Predator Eulogy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8-kNPKNCtg&feature=related
Dos Gringos rip up the Predator UAV.

...Is where my 'sad day/cup of coffee' remark came from. :D

TLAM Strike

01-29-11, 11:02 PM

Some interesting tidbits for all the doubters of remote controlled A/A out there...

Video of a Dogfight (http://www.radiocontrolairplanevideos.com/dogfight-between-mq-1-predator-drone-and-mig-25-foxbat) between a Iraqi MiG and a USAF Predator armed with Stingers. Unfortunately the Predator lost. Quite possably the first Air to Air with an unmanned combat aircraft.

The DASH drone (http://www.gyrodynehelicopters.com/dash_history.htm) a shipborne ASW heli-drone controlled by a station the size of a kitchen oven plus a radio and rated to carry either torpedoes or nuclear bombs... developed back in 1960... the DASH is still in service as a target drone.

The SSM-N-8 Regulus (http://www.regulus-missile.com/Edwards.html) a nuclear cruise missile capable of being remote flown by ship, submarine or fighter aircraft (yes fighter aircraft) and could even land to abort its mission. Developed in 1955!

Do I need to mention the TACTOM and SLAM-ER, with their man-in-the-loop control system?

Applicable or related:

JDAM Blues. (http://www.dooferbook.com/dooferbook-videos/video/22/DOS-GRINGOS-JDAM-BLUES.html)

Adding these guys to my MP3 Player! :haha:

Oberon

01-30-11, 08:44 AM

Adding these guys to my MP3 Player! :haha:

You and me both!! :yeah:

Matador.es

01-31-11, 04:46 AM

Ducimus

01-31-11, 11:43 AM

Adding these guys to my MP3 Player! :haha:

Here's a couple of their better ones. (also contrary to this thread)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5EsK1cpiw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=335GdTqtyLs

FIREWALL

01-31-11, 11:51 AM

[QUOTE=Ducimus;1584355]What an off duty Air Force Pilot of the future will look like:

http://www.irintech.com/x1/images/jean/obese-flight.jpg

:har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::har:

Molon Labe

01-31-11, 02:02 PM

Don't forget "I'm a Pilot!"
Or "you gotta be in the guard"
"WWIII" is great just for the line about the Chinese Embassy.

And raise a glass to Robin Olds for "last of the breed."

Back on topic:
"And if you're stuck in UAVs, then my advice to you
Is to drink the $%^&in' bottle, man, there's nothing else to do!"

nikimcbee

01-31-11, 03:28 PM

And raise a glass to Robin Olds for "last of the breed."

Prost!:salute:

Task Force

01-31-11, 04:05 PM

How long till these things can fly themselfs and retaliate against thier creators?:hmmm:

Gargamel

01-31-11, 10:29 PM

How long till these things can fly themselfs and retaliate against thier creators?:hmmm:

Already happened.

ROBOT KILL-CHOPPER GOES ROGUE above Washington DC! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/26/fire_scout_washington_hiccup/)

Now imagine if the targeting software went haywire too.

"Oh look something that moves! Bam!"

This one too (http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-09/when-drones-go-wild-air-force-shoots-them-down?page=)

Growler

01-31-11, 11:59 PM

Already happened.

ROBOT KILL-CHOPPER GOES ROGUE above Washington DC! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/26/fire_scout_washington_hiccup/)

Now imagine if the targeting software went haywire too.

"Oh look something that moves! Bam!"

This one too (http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-09/when-drones-go-wild-air-force-shoots-them-down?page=)

Wait until they become self aware. In a panic, we'll try to pull the plug...

PeriscopeDepth

02-01-11, 01:40 AM

Just like the knight was made obsolete by advances in tech, it's about time the manned fighter should be. :up:

PD

Platapus

02-01-11, 07:38 AM

Just like the knight was made obsolete by advances in tech, it's about time the manned fighter should be. :up:

PD

But But if we get rid of manned fighters, how will Academy grads get laid???

You gots to think about the important stuff like this ya know. :know:

Until we find another job where Academy grads can get laid, the senior leadership (made up of Academy grads that got laid) will never get rid of manned fighters.

TLAM Strike

02-01-11, 09:48 AM

But But if we get rid of manned fighters, how will Academy grads get laid???

You gots to think about the important stuff like this ya know. :know:

Until we find another job where Academy grads can get laid, the senior leadership (made up of Academy grads that got laid) will never get rid of manned fighters.

I assume they could just go back to the raping they did at the Academy... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_United_States_Air_Force_Academy_sexual_assaul t_scandal)

ETR3(SS)

02-01-11, 10:29 AM

Just like the knight was made obsolete by advances in tech, it's about time the manned fighter should be. :up:

PDI hope not. I would hate for politicians to become more apt to go to war over something because it's just drones and not real people.

TLAM Strike

02-01-11, 10:34 AM

I hope not. I would hate for politicians to become more apt to go to war over something because it's just drones and not real people.
Then again it might make them more willing to take care of what needs to be done. It took 10 years to go after AQ and we were only willing to send in troops after they escalated their attacks and killed 3,000 people on US soil.