Oldest galaxy is lone ranger

[Gerald]

Discovery of the most distant known object hints at empty early Universe.

Astronomers have glimpsed the most distant galaxy ever detected — a lone object 13.2 billion light years from Earth. The discovery implies that the fledgling Universe was emptier than was previously imagined.

The galaxy was spotted in the Hubble Ultra Deep Field, an infrared image of the night sky that contains the faintest and farthest objects so far pictured. The finding "pushes the data to the very limits", says Rychard Bouwens, an astronomer now at Leiden University in the Netherlands and a co-author of the study, which is published today in Nature.

http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110126/full/news.2011.47.html


Note: Published online 26 January 2011

[papa_smurf]

I still find it amazing that we can look that far into deep space. Won't be that long before we view the very edges of our known universe.

[Skybird]

Just pointing out that there is something like a"light barrier" - we cannot look farther than light had time to travel in the time since the Big Bang. Thus one need to make a distinction between the "total universe", and the "observable universe", which according to estimations maybe make just 4% of the total universe.

I also point at the idea of "fluctuating" universe, meaning that a Big bang forms an expanding universe, expansion turns into retraction and final collapse of all thing in one single point - and that marks the next Big Bang and the cycle begins from start.

The problem of astronmy and physics with Big Bang and empty voids, a noithingness, is, that a "nothing" despite being nothing and being beyond any content and characteristics, nevertheless must have such features and characteristics that makle this nothing suddenly causing something and giving birth to time and energy. this is the line that marks the beginning of territories that neither science nor relgions do have explanations for. Science cannot explain it and is never much concerned about the questions of "Why?", only about "How?". Relögions just claims something without any ground or basis and takes that arbitrary claim as "truth".

The truth is that there are things that we simply do not know, scientists and religious people all alike. The option that recommends itself here is: to just admit that.

[papa_smurf]

Just pointing out that there is something like a"light barrier" - we cannot look farther than light had time to travel in the time since the Big Bang. Thus one need to make a distinction between the "total universe", and the "observable universe", which according to estimations maybe make just 4% of the total universe.

I also point at the idea of "fluctuating" universe, meaning that a Big bang forms an expanding universe, expansion turns into retraction and final collapse of all thing in one single point - and that marks the next Big Bang and the cycle begins from start.

The problem of astronmy and physics with Big Bang and empty voids, a noithingness, is, that a "nothing" despite being nothing and being beyond any content and characteristics, nevertheless must have such features and characteristics that makle this nothing suddenly causing something and giving birth to time and energy. this is the line that marks the beginning of territories that neither science nor relgions do have explanations for. Science cannot explain it and is never much concerned about the questions of "Why?", only about "How?". Relögions just claims something without any ground or basis and takes that arbitrary claim as "truth".

The truth is that there are things that we simply do not know, scientists and religious people all alike. The option that recommends itself here is: to just admit that.

Have rough knowledge of this, but we can "listen" at least to some of the furthest regions of the universe with radio telescopes. Anyways, lets not get into a in-depth discussion about the complexities astrophysics, and lets be amazed at the wonders of the universe:yep: .

[TLAM Strike]

Have rough knowledge of this, but we can "listen" at least to some of the furthest regions of the universe with radio telescopes. Anyways, lets not get into a in-depth discussion about the complexities astrophysics, and lets be amazed at the wonders of the universe:yep: .

Radio waves travel at the same speed as light so the Light Barrier is also the Radio Telescope Barrier. ;)

[Growler]

Whether there is a Divine creator or not, either way, the implications are staggering.

The Universe we barely understand is mind blowing already. Imagine if we understood even an iota more than we do today.

"Space... is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mindbogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

[Rhodes]

I though the oldest galaxy was Kasterborous...:hmmm:

[TLAM Strike]

I though the oldest galaxy was Kasterborous...:hmmm:

Kasterborous was the constellation Gallifrey is in not the name of the Galaxy it resides in. :O:

[Rhodes]

Kasterborous was the constellation Gallifrey is in not the name of the Galaxy it resides in. :O:
You're right, I though of galaxy when the name pop up...
Kasterborous Type: Constellation (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Constellation) Location: Mutter's Spiral (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Mutter%27s_Spiral) Natives: Natives of Gallifrey (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Gallifrey) Mentions: DW (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/DW): The Time Warrior (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Time_Warrior) (first mention)
DW (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/DW): Pyramids of Mars (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Pyramids_of_Mars)
DW (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/DW): Attack of the Cybermen (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_of_the_Cybermen)
DW (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/DW): Voyage of the Damned (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Voyage_of_the_Damned)

[Gerald]

Kasterborous was the constellation Gallifrey is in not the name of the Galaxy it resides in. :O: Something like this,

http://i.imgur.com/rB1bV.jpg

[Rhodes]

That's the citadel with the panopticon on top!
Gallifrey is more like this:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1827/gallifreymodern1.png (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/gallifreymodern1.png/)

[krashkart]

The second oldest galaxy in the universe just happens to be a native named Tanto. :O:

Thus, the oldest galaxy in the universe often goes by the nickname "Kemosabe". :88)

[breadcatcher101]

It sometimes baffles my simple mind as to how they know just how old this galaxy is.

You can't just "pull it over and ask for its ID".

I'll go back to learning how to text now...

[Gerald]

The second oldest galaxy in the universe just happens to be a native named Tanto. :O:

Thus, the oldest galaxy in the universe often goes by the nickname "Kemosabe". :88)

http://i.imgur.com/vQYJP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3CeAt.gif

[Skybird]

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I cannot even imagine what you guys are talking about.

[krashkart]

:06: :06: :06:

I cannot even imagine what you guys are talking about.

The old TV series, The Lone Ranger. :)

[Skybird]

The old TV series, The Lone Ranger. :)
Never heared of that.

[Gerald]

Never heared of that.Then there are bright spots in your life Sky,enjoy and sink into the couch with a glass of Ballantine.

[krashkart]

Never heared of that.

Watched reruns of it every afternoon when I was a kid. :DL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_Ranger


There's an episode in three parts on YouTube, if you're inclined to watch a sample:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fjsdaCDCkQ

[Skybird]

There's an episode in three parts on YouTube, if you're inclined to watch a sample:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fjsdaCDCkQ

What the...? Not even a science fiction series - but a Western...?! :o

[krashkart]

What the...? Not even a science fiction series - but a Western...?! :o

:yep:

[TLAM Strike]

What the...? Not even a science fiction series - but a Western...?! :o

Those two concepts are not mutuality exclusive...
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3717/fireflyu.jpg

I guess this means that by Subsim logic Doctor Who + The Lone Ranger = Firefly...

[Gerald]

Great,must load the dvd for an exciting, nostalgic evening, :DL

[Skybird]

I guess this means that by Subsim logic Doctor Who + The Lone Ranger = Firefly...
Don't know those either.

[Gerald]

You may look at a bit older materials,about these works, :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

Don't know those either.
Firefly is arguably the best sci-fi series ever, but short-lived and unknown by many.

But you don't know Dr. Who? Launched in 1963 in Britain, ran until 1987, revived a couple of years ago and quite popular?

Interesting.

[Rhodes]

Firefly is arguably the best sci-fi series ever, but short-lived and unknown by many.

But you don't know Dr. Who? Launched in 1963 in Britain, ran until 1987, revived a couple of years ago and quite popular?

Interesting.

Ideed!

[Skybird]

Firefly is arguably the best sci-fi series ever, but short-lived and unknown by many.

But you don't know Dr. Who? Launched in 1963 in Britain, ran until 1987, revived a couple of years ago and quite popular?

Interesting.
I just had a quick look at Wiki and Google, it seems the series is not popular with us Germans, not even much known in general. I did not even find it being broadcasted over here by any German station, just the BFBS for the British troops in Germany covered some areas of Westgermany with its TV broadcasts of episodes from this series. The few fan activity that there is in Germany (does not look any impressive to me at all) thus focusses on some members living in right these places. From the 80s I remember that BFBS TV was not available on German TV, only the radio program was receivablew in most of Germany. I did not even know until today that BFBS had a TV channel as well.

I have heared the title before, but it never meant anything to me. Some British series have become extremely popular in Germany and are considered as evergreens until today, but Dr. Who is none of them. the most popular Brit-TV imports here are probably "The Avengers" and here the Diana Rigg seasons, and "All Creatures Big and Small". "The Professionals" also was and still is popular with many. I happen to love them all three, but especially "All Creatures" and "CI5" - and back then: "Space 1999" :)

[Gerald]

I just had a quick look at Wiki and Google, it seems the series is not popular with us Germans, not even much known in general. I did not even find it being broadcasted over here by any German station, just the BFBS for the British troops in Germany covered some areas of Westgermany with its TV broadcasts of episodes from this series. The few fan activity that there is in Germany (does not look any impressive to me at all) thus focusses on some members living in right these places. From the 80s I remember that BFBS TV was not available on German TV, only the radio program was receivablew in most of Germany. I did not even know until today that BFBS had a TV channel as well.

I have heared the title before, but it never meant anything to me. Some British series have become extremely popular in Germany and are considered as evergreens until today, but Dr. Who is none of them. the most popular Brit-TV imports here are probably "The Avengers" and here the Diana Rigg seasons, and "All Creatures Big and Small". "The Professionals" also was and still is popular with many. I happen to love them all three, but especially "All Creatures" and "CI5" - and back then: "Space 1999" :) The taste is a little different, in Germany perhaps these series had no attention..