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Gerald
01-19-11, 06:50 AM
China's President Hu Jintao is to hold talks with his US counterpart Barack Obama later, on the first full day of his state visit to the US.The two leaders are expected to tackle thorny issues from currency and trade disputes to defence and security matters, that have dogged relations.

At a joint news conference, President Hu is expected to face questions on China's human rights record.

Hundreds of rights activists have held protests outside the White House

Mr Hu arrived at Andrews Air Force base outside Washington on Tuesday, greeted by US Vice-President Joseph Biden, and attended a rare private dinner at the White House hosted by President Obama.

As Mr Hu dined, activists outside the White House held aloft banners urging the US president to to "admonish Hu" over China's human rights abuses.

In particular they want him to call for the release of the jailed Nobel Peace Prize winner Liu Xiaobo, correspondents say.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12223965


Note: 19 January 2011 Last updated at 09:27 GMT

Weiss Pinguin
01-19-11, 10:23 AM
Wasn't the bad guy in Rush Hour named Jintao? :smug:

ETR3(SS)
01-19-11, 12:43 PM
Oh crap! Hu came to get his money, hide!:gulp:

Bubblehead1980
01-19-11, 01:17 PM
Quite a shame that we have fueled the monster that is now China.Should have left them the backwoods joke they once were.Our leaders never learn...

Takeda Shingen
01-19-11, 02:27 PM
Oh crap! Hu came to get his money, hide!:gulp:

:haha:

http://www.synapsepc.com/Hosting/Images/Funny/%23Owned/LOL%20Cats%20&%20Dogs/Where%27s%20My%20Money.jpg

nikimcbee
01-19-11, 03:18 PM
Well, I give the bamster credit, atleast he knows who the boss is.
http://seeingredaz.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/bho_bows-to_chicom_ap_photo.jpg


Hu: You got my money?
obama: uh..........I left...the check book..at home.

nikimcbee
01-19-11, 03:20 PM
oops, wrong thread:haha:

http://adamrlee.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/obamabowsjapan.png

Japanese guy: Are you okay?
obama: oh look! a dime.

Takeda Shingen
01-19-11, 03:31 PM
For those of us with selective memory:

http://www.reformation.org/en-bush-king-abdullah.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:6fZLk9AXrl_dLM:http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9051/ikebowtodegaulle.jpg&t=1

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5057/nixonbow.jpg

nikimcbee
01-19-11, 03:42 PM
http://www.reformation.org/en-bush-king-abdullah.jpg

He's putting a medal on him!:o

I can't vouch for IKE though.

And the last one, they're not bowing, they're just hard of hearing.:haha:

Takeda Shingen
01-19-11, 03:43 PM
I can't vouch for IKE though.

Yeah, I cannot figure out why he is bowing to de Gaulle either.

nikimcbee
01-19-11, 03:47 PM
Yeah, I cannot figure out why he is bowing to de Gaulle either.

yeah, -1 cool point for IKE.

I used to work for a Korean company, so I've seen alot of courtesy bows, and the inferior bows lower...

Platapus
01-19-11, 06:43 PM
That reminds me of a video someone made up about Bush, Rice and Hu.

Here are the words, I hope I can find the video

http://www.otoons.de/politics/condoleezza.htm

Click on the picture at the top


For the video version

http://wn.com/bush_rice_hu_kofi

The Third Man
01-19-11, 08:02 PM
The 2009 Nobel Peace Prize winner rolling out the red carpet to the man who is holding the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner in prision.

On the eve of a US visit, Chinese President Hu Jintao made the boldest statement yet on the future of the US dollar as a reserve currency, calling the current global monetary exchange system "a product of the past" while promoting his own country's currency as a replacement.

Castout
01-20-11, 01:07 AM
http://adamrlee.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/obamabowsjapan.png



I wonder what size he's wearing. I think I saw a pair of those at JC Penny. Gotta get myself a pair of those. Meh the floor isn't too clean.

nikimcbee
01-20-11, 01:43 AM
That reminds me of a video someone made up about Bush, Rice and Hu.

Here are the words, I hope I can find the video

http://www.otoons.de/politics/condoleezza.htm

Click on the picture at the top


For the video version

http://wn.com/bush_rice_hu_kofi

:har::yeah:

August
01-20-11, 10:06 AM
For those of us with selective memory:

http://www.reformation.org/en-bush-king-abdullah.jpg


That's not a bow. Bush is only lowering his head so the King can put that medal around his neck.

tater
01-20-11, 11:33 AM
The headline should have been, "The 2009 Peace Prize winner hosts dinner for the jailer of the 2010 Peace Prize winner."

(and kow tows to him)

Takeda Shingen
01-20-11, 11:48 AM
That's not a bow. Bush is only lowering his head so the King can put that medal around his neck.

See it as you will, but it is still a sign of submission; not really different than a knighting.

August
01-20-11, 12:18 PM
See it as you will, but it is still a sign of submission; not really different than a knighting.

Well I prefer to see it realistically. The act of tilting the head forward is not a sign of submission unless it is actually intended to be one.

I mean by your reasoning a MoH recipient or a winning Olympic athlete is giving a sign of submission when they hang the medal around his neck. Not likely.

Sailor Steve
01-20-11, 12:21 PM
So, Obama bowing indicates submission? Or just respect? Or tradition?

It looks like we're picking nits here.

Takeda Shingen
01-20-11, 12:23 PM
Well I prefer to see it realistically. The act of tilting the head forward is not a sign of submission unless it is actually intended to be one.

I mean by your reasoning a MoH recipient or a winning Olympic athlete is giving a sign of submission when they hang the medal around his neck. Not likely.

Yes, it is submission. For both the MoH recipient or the Olympic athlete, the act of lowering the head so that the award is placed around the neck is a symbolic recognition of the authority of the awarding body, be it the United States government or the IOC. The act of awarding merit in such a manner has been established as a gesture of submission since Medieval times, where the regent would award the recipient, who would have his head bowed. So, yes, the President of the United States being awarded in this manner by an actual regent is a sign of submission. This is opposed to being handed an award, which is symbolic of recognition among equals.

August
01-20-11, 12:25 PM
So, Obama bowing indicates submission? Or just respect? Or tradition?

It looks like we're picking nits here.

Exactly. I've never seen Obamas bowing as anything but an attempt at showing common courtesy. It was done rather clumsly but we're talking about a guy whose wife thinks it's ok to pat the Queen of England on the back. I'm just glad he didn't puke on anyone...

Takeda Shingen
01-20-11, 12:27 PM
Exactly. I've never seen Obamas bowing as anything but an attempt at showing common courtesy. That is was done rather clumsly but we're talking about a guy whose wife thinks it's ok to pat the Queen of England on the back.

And really, this was my point in the entire argument. If it isn't a puposefully submissive statement for any of the others, then it is just courtesy. Clumsy courtesy, perhaps, but courtesy none the less.

August
01-20-11, 12:36 PM
And really, this was my point in the entire argument. If it isn't a puposefully submissive statement for any of the others, then it is just courtesy. Clumsy courtesy, perhaps, but courtesy none the less.

Well again that's why Bush's picture doesn't belong with the others.

He's bending over for purely utilitarian reasons. That head bowing thing might be required to get a knighthood but not to receive the MoH or Olympic medals.

Nothing that i've ever heard or read mandates that they bow to receive their award. They have to bend over only so the medal can be hung on them. If they were, say, 4 feet tall and the person hanging the medal was 6 feet tall then they'd still get their medal even if they kept their heads up straight.

Takeda Shingen
01-20-11, 12:52 PM
Well again that's why Bush's picture doesn't belong with the others.

He's bending over for purely utilitarian reasons. That head bowing thing might be required to get a knighthood but not to receive the MoH or Olympic medals.

Nothing that i've ever heard or read mandates that they bow to receive their award. They have to bend over only so the medal can be hung on them. If they were, say, 4 feet tall and the person hanging the medal was 6 feet tall then they'd still get their medal even if they kept their heads up straight.

The only reason that I know this is because all of the matriculation ceremonies that I am involved with. Candidates receiving a masters degree or doctorate have a seperate hooding ceremony, where the hood is placed on the neck in the same manner; symbolically acknowledging the authority of the institution to award degrees as it sees fit. Nowadays, a university would not withhold a degree so long as all course work is completed, but long ago, when these ceremonies were created, the university could refuse to award the degree as they saw fit, and frequently did so. We also joke about the mixed messages, as a candidate for a masters would have had to complete their undergraduate studies and recieve their bachelors degree, which is awarded through a handshake and handing of award; a sign of equals. Suddenly, they are being awarded the hood around the neck; a sign of submission.

Anyway, although it is a sign of submission, President Bush was in no way offering himself in obligation to the King of Saudi Arabia, just as President Obama was in no way presenting himself in vassalage to the Party of the Peoples' Republic of China. Ike was not signaling his inferiority to Charles de Gaulle, nor was Nixon submitting to the Chinese. That is exactly why the picutre does belong there.

AVGWarhawk
01-20-11, 12:55 PM
Hu is a dictator!!!!!! Thanks Harry Reid. :doh:

August
01-20-11, 03:08 PM
That is exactly why the picutre does belong there.

Ok have it your way then. :DL

Bilge_Rat
01-20-11, 03:10 PM
What I find surprising is all the press that China is now the second superpower after the USA...

...not sure what Putin thinks about that...:hmmm:

Gerald
01-21-11, 06:14 PM
President Obama has warned Chinese President Hu Jintao that the United States would be compelled to redeploy its military forces in Asia if China does not take a firmer stance against North Korea, a senior administration official confirmed to Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/21/obama-urges-hu-pressure-north-korea-warns-increased-military-presence/



Note: Update record, Published January 21, 2011

yubba
01-21-11, 10:37 PM
Nice that the landlord could stop by too visit.

Kaye T. Bai
01-21-11, 10:44 PM
President Hu Jintao: "You pay now! Now!"

Vice President Joseph R. Biden: "What happened to you, China?"

President Barack H. Obama: "You used to be cool."

Premier Wen Jiabao: "Hey, China still cool! You pay later. Later!"

Schöneboom
01-22-11, 12:22 PM
I wonder how well this Chinese humor goes over elsewhere -- not much to be lost in translation!

http://dailybail.com/home/video-hu-rocks-washington-takes-over-white-house-donates-to.html

Next Media Animation is in Taiwan, btw.

Reminds me of the SNL skit with Hu & Obama:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/china-cold-open/1178451