Ridely Scott quits on new Alien project (2011) [Archive]

Dowly

01-31-11, 05:03 PM

http://radiopopaction.blogspot.com/2011/01/ridley-scotts-prometheus-will-have-link.html

Just recently, director Ridley Scott announced that the Alien prequel he was set to direct and penned by Lost co-creator Damon Lindelof, had taken a life of its own and will now be conceived as an original project named Prometheus.

However, according to Sky Movies, Prometheus will still have a storyline that ties in directly with the Alien franchise, and this will include the popular H.R. Giger designed creatures. Giger has been previously linked to being involved in the prequel so the possibility of him being involved in this new project is strong.

Sources say that "despite that press release that seemed to indicate there were no aliens in the movie, the familiar H.R. Giger-style aliens do appear. Big ones apparently. They've built the 'space jockey' cockpit at Pinewood as seen in the original Alien film, so it definitely takes place in the same world as Alien "

Insiders also confirm that the plot centres around a space crew and the discovery of alien DNA on an archeological expedition, which will eventually lead them to an alien world.

Rumours also state that the film is said to involve "biochemical technology" and the spacecraft may be piloted by a giant CGI head.

The release date for Prometheus is June 8, 2012. Are you happy with Scott´s return to the science fiction genre?If true, I approve. :up:

Tho, frankly, I don't see why not just make an Alien prequel, big aliens = born from space jockeys (the chestburster hole is huge on the SJ in ALIEN), same planet, Giger aliens. I mean, all the ingredients are there, so why not? :doh:

Original Sky Movies article:
http://movies.sky.com/exclusive-prometheus-plot-reveal-aliens-are-in-it

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Speaking of Scott, would love to see him finally make a movie about 'Gunpowder Plot' he has been planning for 30+ years. :yep:

Growler

01-31-11, 05:09 PM

Gods, why do you torment us so?

They should have quit after ALIENS. Alien3 looked up to dog turds, and I needn't bother going into the travesties of movies that followed.

I would have trusted Scott or Cameron to do a prequel justice - moreso Scott, but Cameron mighta done OK - it's not like he hasn't worked with Sigourney Weaver before.

Ah, well.

Dowly

01-31-11, 05:16 PM

Alien3 looked up to dog turds

Alien turds actually :O:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/alien1.gif

(tho, in all seriousness, I liked Alien 3 :yep:)

Growler

01-31-11, 05:19 PM

Alien turds actually :O:
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/Finnish_Ferret/alien1.gif

(tho, in all seriousness, I liked Alien 3 :yep:)

Hehe... I was... disappointed with A3. After the well-crafted story of the first and second movie, 3 seemed too... pat.

STEED

02-23-11, 02:56 PM

Lattest news...

the Space Jockey, seen in the first film, will be making an appearance.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=18156

Dowly

02-23-11, 03:43 PM

I think the fact that news were given early Feb that they were building the SJ cockpit was bit of an give away already. :O:

Dowly

03-07-11, 12:42 PM

Right, let's catch up with Prometheus news. :up:

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Bleeding Cool (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/02/24/prometheus-rumours-unbound-how-the-alien-aliens-factor-in/) has posted up an interesting article after having talked to their own source:

“Remember how the alien took on canine qualities after gestating in a dog? You may even suppose that the first film’s alien was so recognisably humanoid because it had grown in a human. The same applies here: generation by generation, the creature mutates. As Prometheus begins, the xenomorph is not too recognisable. Sure, it has that alien DNA that Scott and Fassbender teasingly referred to, but it’s missing… well, it’s missing human DNA. Or dog DNA.

All you have to do is imagine how it might look if it were to mix DNA with another alien species… and I think we’re starting to work it all out.
I learned that the film’s setting is, in part, a planet that has been terraformed to create the perfect environment in which a particular bioweapon would prosper. Terraformed deliberately to farm the weapon? I got no clear answer. Is this bioweapon the alien? I got no clear answer. While there was a lot of wheezing and coughing on my end of the phone, there was a good deal of quiet smirking on the other, it seems.”

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According to the UK paper Daily Mail a further three cast members have joined Prometheus, Idris Elba, Sean Harris and Kate Dickie:

“Elba will be best known to CBMers as playing Roque in The Losers as well as Heimdell in Marvel’s upcoming Thor of course. Harris you may recognize from Harry Brown with Michael Caine, or from the original Red Riding trilogy with Andrew Garfield. Scottish actress Dickie will most likely not be well known to US readers but she starred in the bleakly brilliant Red Road in the UK.“

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Following on from the previous news report, Daily Mail also talked to Ridley Scott and he’s only gone and made things even more confusing:

“Prometheus, Ridley declared, was not — as some have suggested — a prequel to his classic sci-fi shocker Alien. But he refused to divulge more.”

He also mentions production will start on Prometheus in 3 weeks and that he is really trying to keep the film in complete secrecy. “I was insistent that the script not leak onto the internet, where it gets dissected out of context, which spoils it for everyone.”

In regards to an unspecified cast member the article said: “Indeed, one of his actors told me that he could recite the entire screenplay to me — but then he’d have to wrestle me to the ground and, this was related in the nicest possible way, ‘kill me.”

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Aint It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48722) recently reported that Prometheus will be filming in Scotland:

“The Scottish Daily Express reported today that Inverness or Fort William in the Scottish Highlands will be the production base for an August and September shoot. According to the article, other mountainous parts of Europe had been considered but the Scottish Highlands best suited the film’s theme of “grand mythology and the universe” (the relative proximity to Pinewood Studios in England where the rest of the film is shooting wouldn’t have hurt either).

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Dowly

03-16-11, 07:52 PM

Small update.

A few sites are picking this up and running with it at the moment. In an
interview with German newspaper Blick (http://www.blick.ch/unterhaltung/kino/robin-hood-gabs-wirklich-146589), Ridley Scott made some interesting
comments:

Scott speaks of Erich von Daniken: “He has guessed right. Millions of years
ago, there were intelligent creatures everywhere.” It is a time when HR
Giger’s monster didn’t exist. “I have to create something new.”

Now what this means exactly we don’t know but JoBlo (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=27094) took this to mean
we’ll actually see millions of years ago.

Feuer Frei!

03-16-11, 08:12 PM

Dam, i was getting my hopes up:
Der grösste: Alien, Teil 5. «Ich arbeite dran. Es wird schnell gehen.» Nach Hollywood-Zeitrechnung heisst das: Der Film wird in zwei Jahren rauskommen. Die Handlung? Eine Art «Zurück in die Zukunft». Lange bevor Sigourney Weaver es an Bord ihres Raumschiffs mit dem Alien aufnahm.Which basically means in a shorter version that He is working on Alien, Part 5 and it will be released in 2 years.
The direction? It will be a Back to the future style, long before Sigourney took it up with the Alien.

Then i saw the date the article was written. :oops::O:

Dowly

03-16-11, 08:15 PM

Oh damn. Didn't check the date on that one, just picked the newest Prometheus related news from AVPGalaxy.

Sorry about that. :oops:

Dowly

04-25-11, 04:16 AM

Update from AVPgalaxy.net (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2011/04/22/aliens-spotted-on-prometheus-set/)

Prometheus News | Posted by Darkness on 22 Apr 2011 11:32 GMT

AlienPrequelNews have posted some interesting details on Prometheus. First, there was a call sheet which listed the following actors and their characters: Charlize Theron (Vickers), Idris Elba (Janek), Emun Elliot (Chance) and Benedict Wong (Ravel). Their source also saw three aliens and gave details about the costumes.

“Though security on the set is very tight with the good weather, dock doors have been open and cast and crew have been enjoying lunch outdoors. I can confirm seeing 3 aliens having lunch. Not the whole costume but blueish costumes and the unmistakable heads hanging around their shoulders”

“The alien heads were the same shape but no markings, only a plane bronze colour. As for the suits black boots and shoulder pads the rest was a Chelsea blue body suit could be for SFX, all the sets around the back of the bond stage have huge green chromokey maybe that’s a clue. I have witnessed foam cut outs of unmistakable aliens all cut in half lengh ways so they could be in the floor walls etc and very much from the original film.”

“I managed to enter the bond stage one weekend when no filming was sheduled all I can say is there is a very very long tunnel that leads to an enormous structure at the back of the stage which is the same height as the stage and probably extends out another 200 ft. All of these sets are surrounded by wood foam and scaffold so sid not see inside, I think this is were the Space Jockey set is.”

Thanks to Darkoo for the news.

frau kaleun

04-25-11, 11:27 AM

I can confirm seeing 3 aliens having lunch.

That's nothing. I saw a werewolf drinking a piña colada at Trader Vic's.

P.S. And his hair was perfect.

Dowly

06-12-11, 07:59 AM

First photos from the set leaked.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/BlestBadge/PROMETHEUS%20Set%20Photos%20June%209%202011/cave.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/BlestBadge/PROMETHEUS%20Set%20Photos%20June%209%202011/entrance.jpg

danasan

06-12-11, 08:27 AM

An Alien movie without Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley ? :nope:

An Alien movie with a 60+ years old Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley ? :nope:

So the only chance for a good Alien could be a prequel. :DL

But that is only my two pennies on it...

stoppro

06-12-11, 09:32 AM

F.K when were you in London?

Jimbuna

06-12-11, 09:43 AM

Predators is on two of my cable channels this evening and is scheduled to be screened twice over on each :o

I am looking forward to Sorcerers Apprentice though.

Dowly

06-12-11, 09:53 AM

Predators balls'd it up. Would've been so much better with more Lawrence Fishburne's character. :yep:

And the super predators? :nope:

Jimbuna

06-12-11, 09:57 AM

Predators balls'd it up. Would've been so much better with more Lawrence Fishburne's character. :yep:

And the super predators? :nope:

Aye....hence the 'amazed' smiley at the end.

Besides....I always wanted to see them win :DL

STEED

06-12-11, 02:48 PM

Looks like a cheap film judging by those pics.

Dowly

06-12-11, 02:57 PM

Looks like a cheap film judging by those pics.

Dunno, the familiar Giger's design you see inside whatever that thing is in the second shot is imho pretty promising. :yep:

Also, there's apparently more of these photos, no idea if the guy will upload them as Fox contacted him within 24hrs to take those 2 photos down from his site. :hmmm:

Here's his post over @ AvPGalaxy.net:

Yes, my original intention was to tease with the pics on the website - MY OWN website, on which I can tease if I like :-) - releasing them all over 2-3 days. I didn't think for one minute that Fox would come down so quickly on what is, after all, not a very busy site, compared to here, for example, or AICN, or Latino Review, and many others I'm sure we all visit regularly. Was i being niaive? Maybe, but there we are... what's done is done.

But being smarmy about it? Teasing people about them now? Not at all. As of right now, I have made my intentions clear - until my discussions with Fox are cleared up, I won't be posting any more of these pics. Depending on the outcome of those talks, the pics MAY then or may still NOT be posted. I simply don't know at this stage.

My hope is that Fox will grant me permission to use them, and that they will see the benefit of the publicity - looking at the various site who picked up the news, reaction has been overwhelmingley postive, after all. Would they agree to that? I have no way of knowing, which is why I've not promised or 'teased' anything.

Anyone who has PM'd me for further info will confirm that I have offered no answers or 'teases' as to what the other pics show.

Sorry if I'm sounding a bit baity, but just felt I had to set the record straight - nothing personal.

I'm happy that, if nothing else, the pics I did manage to post have got people excited. Ridley Scott is my favourite living director - and my son is named after him - and I can't wait to see the finshed product.

Dowly

06-15-11, 05:21 AM

First Prometheus banner revealed:

http://i56.tinypic.com/i6ikwm.jpg

:up:

Dowly

07-05-11, 07:10 AM

Revealed info about Prometheus from the Cine Europe Expo:

Prometheus occupies the same universe as Alien.
The film is inspired by a desire to explore the Space Jockey creature seen in the first Alien.
Prometheus is also the name of the spacecraft sent from Earth by a powerful corporation.
The storyline and script is inspired by Swiss sci-fi writer Eric van Daniken.
Michael Fassbender hinted that his character, David, is an android.

Synopsis:

“Visionary filmmaker Ridley Scott returns to the genre he helped define,
creating an original science fiction epic set in the most dangerous corners
of the universe. The film takes a team of scientists and explorers on a
thrilling journey that will test their physical and mental limits and strand
them on a distant world, where they will discover the answers to our most
profound questions and to life’s ultimate mystery.“

(from AvPGalaxy (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/))

STEED

07-05-11, 10:50 AM

where they will discover the answers to our most
profound questions

Why dose luxury toilet paper cost the earth? :)

Dowly

07-08-11, 04:34 AM

^ :rotfl2:

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Two new leaked photos from the set:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/BlestBadge/Prometheus%20set%20photos%20July%205%202011/prometheus_set_2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/BlestBadge/Prometheus%20set%20photos%20July%205%202011/prometheus_set_1.jpg

Growler

07-08-11, 07:01 AM

Two new leaked photos from the set:

OK, as much as I loved the ALIENS movie, looking at this, the first thought I had was, "But where are the Daleks?"

Dowly

07-08-11, 07:17 AM

OK, as much as I loved the ALIENS movie, looking at this, the first thought I had was, "But where are the Daleks?"

ALIENS doesn't show the inside of the derelict, but if you watch ALIEN, you'll
notice that the design is spot on (considering this is a "space jockey movie").

Giger's concept art for the derelict "cockpit" from ALIEN
http://application.denofgeek.com/images/m/alien/giger_alien_derelict_cockpit.jpg

Growler

07-08-11, 07:24 AM

ALIENS doesn't show the inside of the derelict, but if you watch ALIEN, you'll
notice that the design is spot on (considering this is a "space jockey movie").

I thought the SJ's ship in ALIEN was wicked good, and wished that more coverage of it had been done in ALIENS (even the Director's Cut). Original ALIENS story had Newt's folks going into the ship, her pop getting caught by a facehugger, and then her mom dragging them all back via their crawler to Hadley's Hope. (So, yeah, the whole plot of ALIENS is basically Newt's dad's fault.) I think I remember Cameron shooting some of that sequence, but not all of it, and it was left out of the theatrical release.

More to the point, absent the heavy atmospheric lighting that sets and final prints are likely to have, the Daleks were the first things that came to mind.

Dowly

07-08-11, 07:28 AM

Original ALIENS story had Newt's folks going into the ship, her pop getting caught by a facehugger, and then her mom dragging them all back via their crawler to Hadley's Hope. (So, yeah, the whole plot of ALIENS is basically Newt's dad's fault.) I think I remember Cameron shooting some of that sequence, but not all of it, and it was left out of the theatrical release.

That scene and a brief scene from inside the colony pre-infestation are included
on the "Special Edition" of ALIENS. :up:

Here's the scene(s):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iusPorC4wZE

Growler

07-08-11, 07:36 AM

That scene and a brief scene from inside the colony pre-infestation are included
on the "Special Edition" of ALIENS. :up:

Here's the scene(s):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iusPorC4wZE

Ah, yes. I remember this, specifically, the Weyland-Yutani logo on the bulkhead - the only real identification of "the Company" in the entire movie. The kid riding the the little trike was a poignant touch, too. Leave it to Cameron to tug your heart strings while he setting you up for slaughter.

I couldn't remember which edition it was in, but I did remember seeing the scene. I've got the ALIEN Collector's Editon on DVD at home, but haven't watched in a few years - freaks my wife right out of the house.

STEED

07-08-11, 08:31 AM

OK, as much as I loved the ALIENS movie, looking at this, the first thought I had was, "But where are the Daleks?"

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/apr2010/5/2/daleks-pic-bbc-438125319.jpg

Exterminate...Wait we're too fat. Diet, diet, we need to go on a diet.

STEED

07-08-11, 08:33 AM

Two new leaked photos from the set:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/BlestBadge/Prometheus%20set%20photos%20July%205%202011/prometheus_set_2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/BlestBadge/Prometheus%20set%20photos%20July%205%202011/prometheus_set_1.jpg

Alright you got my attention now. ;)

Dowly

07-17-11, 08:33 AM

Moar!

http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/7079/70737059.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7876/11482010.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8620/20286814.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7640/74790237.jpg
http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/3861/77359494.jpg

Howard313

07-17-11, 12:37 PM

Predators 1
Space Jockeys 1
Aliens 0

Predator's Victory Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-39Zz-pha6c)

Dowly

07-24-11, 08:46 AM

First official still
http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/promstill.jpg

Q&A with Ridley Scott:
http://youtu.be/5LeIce4lc8s

Dowly

08-01-11, 11:13 AM

32 photos leaked from the Comic-Con 2011 Prometheus showing:
http://www.use.com/162b028d8fbacc707c6a#photo=1

Dowly

12-02-11, 11:02 AM

Some points from interview with Ridley Scott on Wall Street Journal:

The movie is about a higher being who challenges the gods.
The last 8 minutes of the film 'evolve into a pretty good DNA of the Alien one'. In other words, the movie ends where Alien picks up.
Sigourney Weaver doesn't make any kind of cameo appearance.
The movie was shot in 3D with CGI.

Full interview:
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2011/11/07/ridley-scott-spills-the-secrets-of-prometheus/?mod=google_news_blog

And some official stills from Prometheus:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2011/12/01/new-prometheus-stills-released/

:salute:

Dowly

12-14-11, 07:37 PM

First official poster:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/promethesus-movie-poster-teaser-03.jpg

Also, the first trailer's been rated, 14A on Canadian rating thingy. Hopefully it
get's released soon. ;)

Osmium Steele

12-15-11, 02:23 PM

That's not at all reminiscent of the original Alien poster... :roll::rolleyes::/\\k:

Dowly

12-15-11, 02:37 PM

Unless you compare it to the Polish ALIEN poster :haha:

http://www.imgspark.com/icache/0079/16b84f62b4715b72dffb726d1eb9d286_l.jpg

Jimbuna

12-15-11, 06:51 PM

Unless you compare it to the Polish ALIEN poster :haha:

http://www.imgspark.com/icache/0079/16b84f62b4715b72dffb726d1eb9d286_l.jpg

Can't even understand it :doh:

Rhodes

12-16-11, 05:19 AM

At least it don't give away anything about the film! :)

Dowly

12-19-11, 01:38 PM

Prometheus First Look:
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/fox/prometheus/

30 second teaser thingy for the upcoming trailer (which is to be released on Thursday). :rock:

EDIT: And 6 screenshots I took quickly from the interesting bits:
http://s1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/Prometheus%20Trailer%20Teaser%20snapshots/

Jimbuna

12-19-11, 04:02 PM

They were the interesting bits? :hmmm:

Dowly

12-19-11, 04:28 PM

They were the interesting bits? :hmmm:

IMO, yes.

Oh and the 2nd teaser for the trailer that was supposed to be released tomorrow is up too with different footage:
http://media.filmz.ru/apple/prometheus-countdown-intwodays_h720p.mov

Jimbuna

12-19-11, 04:35 PM

That link looks a lot better :yep:

Subnuts

12-20-11, 09:55 PM

Just saw a leaked cameraphone version of the trailer. Even in low-res, you can see a couple good shots of a spaceship that looks identical to the derelict in Alien, as well as a brief glimpse of the Space Jockey rising up from beneath the floor.

If this isn't an Alien prequel, then it's surely the greatest Alien rip-off of all time! :rotfl2:

Dowly

12-21-11, 06:04 PM

Aaand the third and final teaser before tomorrow's trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9re91OwUnA

Dowly

12-22-11, 01:53 PM

Teaser Trailer Released :yeah:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sftuxbvGwiU

kiwi_2005

01-09-12, 07:21 AM

Just watched the trailer now from NZ herald didn't know it was already in this thread, I came here to put it up. Prometheus looks damn good, can't wait to see the full movie.

Dowly

03-18-12, 09:10 AM

Official Trailer :rock:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHcHYisZFLU)

Q&A with Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTwVoIapW-Y

Come oooon, be June already! :stare:

Oh hello, have we met? :hmmm: (from the trailer)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Corpral_Hicks/Untitled-2.png

Jimbuna

03-18-12, 09:25 AM

Looking forward to it...even more so because Ridley Scott is from my home town.

STEED

03-18-12, 02:26 PM

Looking forward to it...even more so because Ridley Scott is from my home town.

Did he take you out for lunch and cigars?

Jimbuna

03-18-12, 02:56 PM

Did he take you out for lunch and cigars?

No but I have dined with your mates Blair and Miliband (David) on separate occasions :DL

Dowly

03-19-12, 06:47 AM

Aaand the International Trailer with quite a bit of different footage :yeah:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk

kranz

03-19-12, 10:54 AM

if I had had a second chance to write my M.A. thesis, it would have been like that:
"the repetitive pattern of American S-F movies".
intro...
main body:
-space
-spaceships (the more round shapes the better)
-expedition of dumb Americans to discover "object A"
-condition 1: the crew must contain at least one, non-american crewmember
(he/she doesn't have to be a foreigner, a mispronounced French name will suffice)
-condition 2: pretty faces only. c'mon. go to any freaking lab for urine or blood test. have you ever seen charlize theron or ben affleck(this version is for gays) taking the sample? NO! their faces are ALWAYS casual, more or less ugly. omg. why does the perfection occur only in the American S-F??
-condition 3: there must be some "unexplainable" force(a variation can be noticed here: it can be either unexplainable force or just a government conspiracy(Alien, Predator+all the rest of the c...) that "communicates" with the dumb American "watch station" to tell it that the "object A" is sending a freaking "signal"---> which is ALWAYS a freaking decoy bcoz...
-condition 4: "object A" is never discovered. I mean, they always find "object B", that is, something else.
let's go on...
-the expedition must be divided by some inner, non-SF issues. drunkard husband, sluttish (does this word exist or have I just created it?)daughter, grandpa can't s...out...You know...NASA has their "database"(which is a 50 MB excel file) of the best of the best of the best of the best of the best "space troubles" specialists, BUT AFTER ALL they always take people with casual, day-to-day life problems. Even Jim has them.
-so they are flying...in the outer space...and they play chess and cards bcoz it's always a long journey. wrong. back. they don't play anything bcoz they sleep throughout the voyage in, get ready, cryogenic capsulezzzz. yay. sure...the humanity has lasers, cryogenic capsules but they still use 99% of objects as if they lived in the 1980's...
back to the capsules. why capsules? bcoz something may go wrong there+you are unconscious+that unexplainable force or the government is doing the freaking conspiracy while you are sleeping.
-did I mention lasers? ok...they must be red and must resemble these which appeared in Predator. Like you know- I have a red dot/triangle on my forehead!! ZOMG- the aliens want to kill you, run. Why do the aliens always aim with the red laser? To go even further, we already had aliens who could kill you with telepathy, but...they had "beads" like those first fliers during the Great War.
-darkness. Sure. Our battle cruisers have nuclear reactors which could power 99999 american cities but when "something non-human" gets on board everything goes pitch black to hide that zipper of the alien costume bcoz the director is not sure whether the cameraman will be able to aim the camera in such a way to hide that zipper. You say, hey moron, haven't you seen Avatar? there are no dark scenes there. Yeah, bcoz the zippers were erased by "teh rubber" or by "teh healing brush".
-alluding to the ancient times. I mean, pre-ancient times. pre, pre, pre...
You know that a bunch of aliens was having a very rough sex on the same spot where Jimbuna parks his car now? Or a drunken Alien stumbled over the VERY SAME stone which Dowly did after leaving his favorite pub? I'm telling you, the aliens were here looong time ago and the Earth was they playground, bcoz they made people into other species of aliens and were hunting them? I mean, it doesn't really matter what they did, they always have business with any ancient civilization (yeah, sure it wouldn't be possible to build a pyramid now (unless you are German). Ok, you may say, "ok smartass, every respectable scholar supports his theory with an explanation", ok. challenge accepted. why the heck ancient civilization is always(you know what I mean) a freaking fetish in S-F movies? Answer: bcoz the director is yet another dumb American for whom literally anything older than 200 years (explanation: American history is 200 years old) is a fetish. Hieroglyphic signs? Yabadabadoo. It's like a perfect receipt: pour a bit of ancient stuff into a bowl, add some pretty Hollywood (not that holly...)faces, grate with lasers and the outer space, sprinkle with sex, blood and guts and voila! (a French word, so don't even try to say it)
-criticism, you know...Baudrillard, Foucault, discourse of power, make humanity rotten enough so that it would be easier to convince the audience that there IS something to look outside the sphere of the "familiar". to seek for the unfamiliar, which..get ready... ulimately wants to kill you. wow. kinda pessimistic vision.
-lots of additional points here.
-summary...
I'm not gonna re-read that wall of text, sorry for all the mistakes I've made.

STEED

03-19-12, 10:58 AM

Dowly please stop drooling will you, your making the Forum all wet. :03:

http://www.simpsonswallpapers.net/wp-content/uploads/wallpapers/homer_drooling_wallpaper_-_800x600.jpg

Dowly

03-19-12, 12:56 PM

Dowly please stop drooling will you, your making the Forum all wet. :03:

NO! :stare:

STEED

03-19-12, 12:59 PM

NO! :stare:

Get your bucket and mop out then!

Or jim will bust you on a trumped up charge. :haha:

Jimbuna

03-19-12, 05:46 PM

I thought that second trailer was better than the first...just need to see a few more then I'll get the usual feeling that I've already seen the film.

Some parts reminded me of Event Horizon.

kranz

03-20-12, 08:43 AM

Some parts reminded me of Event Horizon.
yay, I found a supporter.

Catfish

03-20-12, 08:48 AM

Hehe Kranz, i do like the first Alien film, and i will like Prometheus i guess. I am fascinated by "Science fictional archeology" (like the books from McDevitt),
but your post above was brilliant ! :rotfl2::rotfl2:
I would really like Ridley Scott to read this lol
:up:

Greetings,
Catfish

P.S. you forgot, in case of a hostile extraterrestrian being, which you have to fight as the best of the best of the best space marine, make sure to ALWAYS split up your group and never stay together, so the monster can kill every single soldier separately, and has not to face the bundled fire power of a team :P

Gargamel

03-20-12, 09:42 AM

Kranz, POTY!

kiwi_2005

03-20-12, 12:57 PM

Aaand the International Trailer with quite a bit of different footage :yeah:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9jRaa4Wkbk

:rock::rock::rock:

Looks damn good. And I hope for Dowly sake this movie doesn't fail or ther be hell to pay! :D

This released in June? or is it sometime next year.

Dowly

03-20-12, 01:15 PM

June 8 this year IIRC

HunterICX

04-17-12, 11:28 AM

Ad made by Ridley Scott about David the Robot:

http://mashable.com/2012/04/17/prometheus-david-ad/

HunterICX

STEED

05-04-12, 01:35 PM

Just seen the Trailer on TV, not long to go for the UK

JUNE 1ST. :DL

Jimbuna

05-04-12, 03:18 PM

Looking forward to it :sunny:

kiwi_2005

05-05-12, 07:40 PM

STEED

05-06-12, 07:06 AM

The latest trailer (released late April) I read the fans are upset that it had to many spoilers. Ive seen it and can't say it ruin it for me its more I can't wait for Prometheus to come out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byZkbNB3Jw&feature=player_embedded

Well its their fault if they keep watching it, I watched it once and that will be it for me. Month to wait for the film and I would have forgotten the trailer and sit back and enjoy the film.

BLOODY HELL! :D

ROCK ON JUNE 1ST. :yeah:

Dowly

05-06-12, 07:23 AM

@Kiwi_2005

Imho, it does reveal a bit too much. We've already seen at least 3 different
creatures in the trailers (Engineer, the squid-like thingy and now the one we see in that). :shifty:

Jimbuna

05-06-12, 11:04 AM

Well its their fault if they keep watching it, I watched once and that will be it for me. Month to wait for the film and I would have forgotten the trailer and sit back and enjoy the film.

Agreed...I'll certainly wait a month.

Dowly

05-07-12, 05:40 PM

Hooray, Prometheus will be rated R instead of PG13 as has been rumoured for
sometime. :up:

STEED

05-08-12, 08:43 AM

Hooray, Prometheus will be rated R instead of PG13 as has been rumoured for
sometime. :up:

R rated film here is a porn film, hope Dowly not popping over to the UK for some dodgy film with the same name. :haha:

Not seen the rating here I hope it's a Cert18 and not cert15, can't stand teenagers there a pain in the bum.

Jimbuna

05-08-12, 08:48 AM

It's getting harder to guess what stage of the teens kids/adults are in :doh:

Dowly

05-08-12, 09:04 AM

Not seen the rating here I hope it's a Cert18 and not cert15, can't stand teenagers there a pain in the bum.

Pretty sure it will be cert15. :hmmm:

"sci-fi violence including some intense images, and brief language."

STEED

05-25-12, 01:04 PM

Sod it, UK Cert15 and 3D...Blast.

I hate 3D its tripe.

Dowly

05-25-12, 01:09 PM

Sod it, UK Cert15 and 3D...Blast.

I hate 3D its tripe.

I read the somewhat detailed reasoning behind the rating and it didn't sound like
they dumbed down it that much. There will be violence and bloody scenes.

What is more interesting is Critic's Choice which had Prometheus rated as 90/100
yesterday and is now changed to 55/100.

The site has no actual reviews yet, but still. Why fiddle with the numbers? :hmmm:

Reasoning for the cert15 rating (WARNING! SPOILERS!)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2012/05/23/bbfc-reveals-extended-classification-info/

STEED

05-25-12, 01:19 PM

That clears up the Cert15 but why 3D?

Skybird

05-25-12, 01:24 PM

:haha:

Reading the official reasoning report, I could not help myself but had to laugh out loud. I mean, it sounds so - bureaucratically, so absurd, disconnected, so... How can one seriously start to cassify things by schemes like this?

Have they ever filed a reasoning report about their own sense of reasonability?

Dowly

05-25-12, 01:41 PM

That clears up the Cert15 but why 3D?

Indeed. Never seen a movie in 3D nor I'm planning to.

Tho, I seem to remember that Ridley said he is going to use some fancy pansy
new camera/technique for 3D so who knows. :hmmm:

:haha:

Reading the official reasoning report, I could not help myself but had to laugh out loud. I mean, it sounds so - bureaucratically, so absurd, disconnected, so... How can one seriously start to cassify things by schemes like this?

Have they ever filed a reasoning report about their own sense of reasonability?

Haha, yeah I know what you mean. Think IMDB has a similar section that
covers what potentially harmful material (for kids) the movie has. :O:

STEED

05-25-12, 01:51 PM

I wish it was Cert18 to keep the riff raff out...teenagers. :arrgh!:

Dowly

05-25-12, 02:05 PM

I wish it was Cert18 to keep the riff raff out...teenagers. :arrgh!:

Hah, good point. :DL

Luckily where I live, people just sit with their mouths shut and watch the movie. :O:

Then again, it must be almost 10 years since I saw anything in the movies. :hmmm:

Just need to figure out when it's opening here, official finnish opening is on June 1.
but living in a small town that might be pushed back.

Stealhead

05-25-12, 02:14 PM

Hah, good point. :DL

Luckily where I live, people just sit with their mouths shut and watch the movie. :O:

Then again, it must be almost 10 years since I saw anything in the movies. :hmmm:

Just need to figure out when it's opening here, official finnish opening is on June 1.
but living in a small town that might be pushed back.

That is why I have mixed opinions about going to the theater some times I will wait for a few days and let the big crowds catch the opening showings that is when most of the un-wanted viewers show up.

Dowly

05-25-12, 02:26 PM

That is why I have mixed opinions about going to the theater some times I will wait for a few days and let the big crowds catch the opening showings that is when most of the un-wanted viewers show up.

Yup, I never go see a movie on it's opening day. I'm there to watch a movie, not to meet people. 3-4 days after the opening is usually when I go see the movie,
plenty of room to pick your seat and all that. :DL

STEED

05-25-12, 02:35 PM

I'm going on the first showing at lunch time next Friday so it will be about half full or less. No way I would see this in the evening that's when it pact out!

Stealhead

05-25-12, 02:59 PM

I'm going on the first showing at lunch time next Friday so it will be about half full or less. No way I would see this in the evening that's when it pact out!

That is good time of day to go it will be near empty I recon.

Unless of course some hoodlums get bored and decide to catch a film at the same hour.Alex and his Droogs have to find something to do midday :haha:

Jimbuna

05-26-12, 05:09 AM

I wish it was Cert18 to keep the riff raff out...teenagers. :arrgh!:

Someone 18 years of age IS a teenager :DL

STEED

05-26-12, 01:57 PM

Someone 18 years of age IS a teenager :DL

Yea but 12pm showing is far too early for them as they will still be in bed. :haha:

Jimbuna

05-27-12, 05:11 AM

Yea but 12pm showing is far too early for them as they will still be in bed. :haha:

LOL :DL

treelo

05-27-12, 05:56 AM

Can't say that I'm too excited about the film with 6 days to go. There was far too much sunlight in the trailer (sounds stupid I know, but the total amount of time spent in the sun stretched over four films was about thirty seconds,) every other snippet was of some grandiose special effect, and it is Cert15. Do people even make Cert18 films any more? The 3D thing doesn't bother me too much, though I still maintain it is pointless in most cases and much better suited for gaming than movies.

Oh well, at least I won't be disappointed if it sucks.

Dowly

05-28-12, 01:31 PM

The French press screening was today and the first impressions and reviews are
surprisingly mixed, ranging from big disappointment to average to amazing.

One of the members over at avpgalaxy saw it too, so kinda waiting what
he says about it. :hmmm:

STEED

06-01-12, 01:26 PM

Prometheus 2D Review

I will leave the 3D to someone else who watches that version.

Well this is going to be tricky..

Is there a direct link from Prometheus to ALIEN? No, if your thinking in the terms do we find out how they got on that planet (LV428 ALIENS) and what happen. I can safely say that as I'm not giving anything way by saying that.

Right moving on..The Space Jockey (ALIEN) Engineers (Prometheus) sorry folks I can not say anything as there is a damn good reason which you will find out on watching it.

Weyland-Yutani Corporation funds the mission to find our beginnings and something else which I can not say, It's set on LV 223 a totally different planet from ALIEN.

Is it as good as ALIEN? Well I classed ALIEN as Brilliant but this is not brilliant it's good to very good. Some points about the film I did not like and it raised far more questions than answers, so is there room for Prometheus 2? Yes without question, once again you need to see the film to understand that one.

Ridley Scott states..."You will have experienced something completely unexpected." Well I have to agree, this film dose not feel like the ALIEN film.

Worth Watching? Yes as it tells the story of the Space Jockey/Engineers and the cast was not bad and Ridley's Directing is of the high standard we know.

Gore? Not a great deal, just one moderate scene.

Do we meet the ALIEN we know? Well once again can not say.

Score 7 out of 10 at the moment still pondering over this one.
__________________

STEED

06-01-12, 02:31 PM

BTW: UK folks I noticed when I went to see the film the cost for 3D was more than 2D. :hmmm:

Jimbuna

06-01-12, 03:52 PM

I'm honestly in no great hurry to see it but expect to within a week or so.

STEED

06-01-12, 04:58 PM

I'm honestly in no great hurry to see it but expect to within a week or so.

Are I see...Jim is wondering 2D or 3D. :hmmm: :DL

THE ALIEN UNIVERSE TIMELINE
http://time.absoluteavp.com/time1.html

SPOILER ALERT - JUST A LITTLE ONE

Last Warning!

Prometheus set in 2093,before ALIEN set in 2122.

Jimbuna

06-01-12, 06:02 PM

Are I see...Jim is wondering 2D or 3D. :hmmm: :DL

Not quite :DL:03:

STEED

06-02-12, 06:38 AM

You don't mean a secret hush hush version in 4D!!!!!!!!!!! :o

Jimbuna

06-02-12, 06:47 AM

You don't mean a secret hush hush version in 4D!!!!!!!!!!! :o

That will depend on what version fist becomes available....I believe it is already available under licence to some long haul travel providers.

BossMark

06-02-12, 01:27 PM

BTW: UK folks I noticed when I went to see the film the cost for 3D was more than 2D. :hmmm:
Is worth going to see then or wait till its out on DVD\blue-ray

STEED

06-03-12, 04:52 AM

Is worth going to see then or wait till its out on DVD\blue-ray

My review if you missed it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1892195&postcount=103

BossMark

06-03-12, 05:09 AM

My review if you missed it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1892195&postcount=103
OK ta its just that my nearest picture house is a 30 minute drive away or you need to get two buses thanks to that evil cow thatcher, she and her goons closed my local pictures back in 1988.

STEED

06-03-12, 05:39 AM

My one closed back in the late 1980's as two large towns opened up multiplex cinemas, three screens were no match for ten. I have to bus it over to the nearest one, by the way cost for the bus was £3.20 for a return, the film was £8.40 plus medium pepsi (No ice as that is a con, less drink) £3.22. :o

Good job I don't see many films.

STEED

06-03-12, 05:48 AM

BossMark

06-03-12, 06:35 AM

BossMark..

Are a hard line fan of ALIEN?

If so you will want to know about the Space Jockey/Engineers without the six month more to wait for it to come out on DVD/BluRay.

If not...can you last out?
I like the Alien films and as I have got most of June off to watch the football I think I will make the journey to the pictures and watch it :yep:

Jimbuna

06-03-12, 03:24 PM

Egan

06-03-12, 05:39 PM

STEED

06-04-12, 05:18 AM

I'm going to see it on Wednesday. 3-D booked along with, err, vibrating seats, apparently. At the very least it should keep me awake. I have form in cinemas for that sort of thing.

Along with the new Batman movie and the new Wes Anderson, it's the only film I'll probably go to see this year.

I have heard people who saw the 3D version didn't think much of the 3D as there was not a great deal of it and being charged for the 3D specs didn't help.

Not sure about those vibrating seats, your back make get a good workout. :DL

Egan

06-04-12, 10:28 AM

I have heard people who saw the 3D version didn't think much of the 3D as there was not a great deal of it and being charged for the 3D specs didn't help.

Not sure about those vibrating seats, your back make get a good workout. :DL

Never been to a 3-D movie before, can't say I'm all that bothered about it but we'll see. I'm not sure about the seats either.

kiwi_2005

06-05-12, 08:33 AM

Hoping to go see it this weekend, read a couple of reviews all positive about the film, giving it 4 out of 5 stars.

STEED

06-05-12, 10:20 AM

Come on guys go and see it so we can chat about it.

Dowly

06-05-12, 10:26 AM

AvPGalaxy.net has a dedicated forum section just for Prometheus if you really want to chat about it. :DL

Hopefully, I'll see it during this week. :hmmm:

Dowly

06-06-12, 08:22 AM

Finally saw it today and first impressions are quite mixed. Can't honestly say
it left very big of an impression, at least not after first watching.

The Space Jockey design was pretty damn good, tho. :up:

STEED

06-06-12, 08:38 AM

Engineers Dowly! Space jockey that's Alien! :haha:

I will say this...

SPOILER ALERT YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! DO NOT READ THE BELOW!

The trailers were deceptive to a degree.

Dowly

06-06-12, 08:59 AM

Engineers Dowly! Space jockey that's Alien! :haha:

Same suits, same ships and the need to produce galactic sexual predators because "what could possibly go wrong, right?".

I'm gonna go with Space Jockey. :O:

STEED

06-06-12, 09:03 AM

Please no cross over with the Predators that was a mistake.

I too had some mixed feelings about the film.

I have stuck with my 7 out of 10.

Dowly

06-06-12, 09:11 AM

Yup, 6.5-7 / 10

Entertaining movie, but I was hoping for much more from Ridley Scott.

At least it didn't contradict ALIEN that much, so that's good. :yep:

STEED

06-06-12, 09:21 AM

I think that's the problem, people are going in thinking its a pre-Alien film which it is not as Ridley moved away from that area to a different area.

Raised more questions than answers for me. :hmmm:

kiwi_2005

06-06-12, 09:41 AM

SPOILER!

Tho it is the name of the ship but the Prometheus myth isn't about some Titan God, the Greeks got it so wrong! :DL Besides I like Scotts myth better. Prometheus was all along connected to the engineers who came to earth millions of years ago and implanted apes with their dna. Thus creating the human race. They were our creators :yeah: I wasn't expecting that I was blown away so just that gets a 10/10 for me. I liked the ending too but I wish this was a 4hr movie so we could see what happens next & the answers Shaw gets. :D

The movie itself I'll give it an 8

Dowly

06-06-12, 11:50 AM

Good interview with Ridley Scott about Prometheus (Contains spoilers):
http://www.movies.com/movie-news/ridley-scott-prometheus-interview/8232

---

And pick of the day from avpgalaxy, on what David said to the Engineer:

David 'thinks' he's saying "Hello, All-Poweful One...Sorry to break your slumber..."

What he's actually saying is "Your mother sucks ***** on LV-426..."

No wonder he was so pissed. :haha:

STEED

06-06-12, 01:12 PM

Good interview with Ridley Scott about Prometheus (Contains spoilers):
http://www.movies.com/movie-news/ridley-scott-prometheus-interview/8232

---

And pick of the day from avpgalaxy, on what David said to the Engineer:

No wonder he was so pissed. :haha:

Dave was such a wimp. :haha:

I hope Ridley dose a sequel aa he could tie it in with ALIEN and open the door even more.

kiwi_2005

06-06-12, 02:11 PM

In the start the engineer who sacrificed himself how he did it near the water so his dna would spread throughout the world. This was Earth? :hmmm:

I am looking forward Prometheus 2 as I want to know what happens to Shaw, Im thinking how the aliens are in Alien/s films is because they have Shaws (human dna) the engineers at their homeworld use her dna after killing her to further their creation. Shaw is the seed of all aliens after her, thats why the aliens look like they do, kinda like human form legs/arms not looking like some spagetti monster before :oops:

:88)

Dowly

06-06-12, 02:28 PM

Yeah, the planet in the beginning was Earth.

As for the different looking Aliens in the later films, I figured they are just more
refined version. The incident on the planet they go to took place some 2000 years
ago, so they've had plenty of time to improve on the alien maybe on other planets. :hmmm:

Of course, the look of the actual full grown alien has to do with the DNA of the
host it's born off. Humans give birth to the larger drone & warrior types and in
Alien³ we have the slimmer, faster runner alien from dog (or ox if you go with the Assembly Cut).

TarJak

06-06-12, 04:23 PM

So who's tried out over at Weyland Industries (http://www.weylandindustries.com/)?

Egan

06-07-12, 03:22 PM

Well, I enjoyed it very much. 7.5/8 out of 10 I think. Did feel I abit like two separate movies spliced together, though: A deeper, more philosophical one in the first half, a frenetic, slightly confused space slasher in the second. still good, though.

I thought Idris Elba, Noomie Rappace and Michael Fassbender were excellent, especially Fassbender who was brilliantly 'different' as the - what term are we currently using in the Alien universe - Synthetic.

First 3-D film I've been to as well. Quite enjoyed it. the D-box moving, vibrating chairs were fun too. Would have been quite something to sit in one of them during the drop ship scene in Aliens.

STEED

06-07-12, 03:54 PM

Would have been quite something to sit in one of them during the drop ship scene in Aliens.

With a 150ft plunge! :o :haha:

STEED

06-07-12, 04:01 PM

I only recognised Idris Elba from the BBC cop show Luther and from CH4 slick vampire one off series Ultraviolet. As for the main cast as whole yes they were a good choice.

kiwi_2005

06-07-12, 04:09 PM

So who's tried out over at Weyland Industries (http://www.weylandindustries.com/)?

That site is pretty cool, I explored the planets but the training academy is a bitch. The damn arrow keys do not move you far enough to the left or right when dodging the obstacles! After 3 attempts I then asked myself Why the hell am I playing this! :88)

Egan

06-07-12, 06:25 PM

I only recognised Idris Elba from the BBC cop show Luther and from CH4 slick vampire one off series Ultraviolet. As for the main cast as whole yes they were a good choice.

I know him mostly from The Wire. He played Stringer Bell and was phenomenal.

TarJak

06-08-12, 12:55 AM

Dowly

06-08-12, 05:21 AM

That site is pretty cool, I explored the planets but the training academy is a bitch. The damn arrow keys do not move you far enough to the left or right when dodging the obstacles! After 3 attempts I then asked myself Why the hell am I playing this! :88)

The corporate timeline is nice read. :yep:

---

Robert Ebert gives Prometheus 4 stars:
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120606/REVIEWS/120609989

Tho, that review was a bit strange, there's quite a few mistakes. :doh:

Film Brain's review was spot on imho:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/fbv/projector/35514-projector-prometheus

STEED

06-08-12, 12:20 PM

Film Brain's review was spot on imho:
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/fbv/projector/35514-projector-prometheus

That's interesting because I felt the film raised more questions than it answered and a franchise yes without question the door is open for a sequel. The film should have been longer and Cert18 in my book, never the less good but it could have been better.

BossMark

06-08-12, 01:17 PM

Going to watch Promethehus on Tuesday, that's if I haven't go a bad hangover from all day drinking the day before I am going into town to watch England v The Frogs
:Kaleun_Cheers:

Jimbuna

06-08-12, 02:56 PM

I thought they'd burned all the cinemas down in Leeds :hmmm:

STEED

06-08-12, 03:20 PM

I thought they'd burned all the cinemas down in Leeds :hmmm:

They rebuilt them in Cameron's honour, free membership to the Tory party plus a slap up Sunday lunch with the man himself David Cameron when you go and see a film. :D

Try Manchester or Bolton BossMark.

Jimbuna

06-08-12, 03:25 PM

They rebuilt them in Cameron's honour, free membership to the Tory party plus a slap up Sunday lunch with the man himself David Cameron when you go and see a film. :D

Try Manchester or Bolton BossMark.

I thought his native language was Yorkshire English :O:

STEED

06-08-12, 03:29 PM

I thought his native language was Yorkshire English :O:

BossMark knows the secret of Ecky Thump. :DL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuP1eycaA6c

Jimbuna

06-08-12, 03:41 PM

LOL :DL

STEED

06-08-12, 03:48 PM

Just see him using that...

"Down in front"...

"F-off"...

THUMP

:rotfl2:

CaptainMattJ.

06-08-12, 03:53 PM

Saw the movie. it was pretty great. I liked it.

:yeah: 4/5

Stealhead

06-08-12, 08:51 PM

SPOLIERY

I saw it today as well (got released today in the US) It was fairly good though I agree with the others it felt like two different movies at different points.It was definitely thought provoking for sure and the entire suggestion about the engineers was interesting.I thought that they left too many questions unanswered though.They really did not answer any questions.Also from what I have read from an art book about Alien by H.R. Giger and some of what Scott has said the "mound" thing and the engineer "facility" in earlier concepts of Alien they had some similar ideas so it seems at least to me as if Prometheus was not so much of a prequel as a different view of a similar concept.

I would say 7/10 fairly good but not perfect.

I wish they would have shown more how certain things progress though some things got cut before they came to fruition.It seemed very open to a sequel.

It also brings up many questions about the ship in Alien.How long had it been there and it had obviously eggs inside of it not the other kind of cargo seen in Prometheus.Which makes me think that it is not as old and must have left the source at a later date after the events in Prometheus.

BossMark

06-09-12, 12:16 AM

I thought they'd burned all the cinemas down in Leeds :hmmm:
That bitch Thatcher closed them down in the late 80s. I now have to go to the Showcase pictures which is located between Leeds and Bradford :wah:
They rebuilt them in Cameron's honour, free membership to the Tory party plus a slap up Sunday lunch with the man himself David Cameron when you go and see a film. :D

Try Manchester or Bolton BossMark.
No thanks
I thought his native language was Yorkshire English :O:
It is :yep:
BossMark knows the secret of Ecky Thump. :DL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuP1eycaA6c
:rotfl2:

AngusJS

06-10-12, 03:32 PM

I hated it. Spoony summed it all up in his review (http://spoonyexperiment.com/2012/06/08/vlog-6-8-12-prometheus/).

I think I've avoided spoilers, but let the reader beware.

Only one or two characters are likable.

Alien had realistic characters having realistic dialogue and acting realistically. Prometheus has unbelievable characters saying and doing unbelievable things.

A scientist is afraid to investigate a hugely important find in his field, but then will throw procedures to the wind and will act extremely unprofessionally 20 minutes later.

A scientist says "she just chooses to believe" when asked about the justification for a billion kilometer journey.

After making a momentous discovery and confirming his theory, the lead scientist still mopes around.

Scientists fail to take basic precautions, or treat their finds with any care.

The captain couldn't care less about the well being of some of the scientists, and is surprised at how events unfold, even though he had access to real-time information from them. He acts nonchalantly about potential threats.

Suit recorders stop recording or are never checked, only for the convenience of the plot.

Characters know / exposit information they had no access to - yet the audience is left without answers for major questions.

A character can have major surgery and be running around seconds later without bleeding to death.

The space jockeys/Engineers are completely and utterly ruined. What we get in Prometheus does not dignify the mystery and foreignness of what we saw in Alien.

They act simplistically and boringly.

The film does not feel like it takes place in the same universe as Alien. The designs and technology are far more advanced than in films taking place in the future. While an allowance for advances in special effects can be made, it cannot be made for design choices (e.g. the space suits).

A movie that requires its characters to act stupidly in order to advance the plot is not a good movie. :cry:

STEED

06-11-12, 07:29 AM

I hated it. Spoony summed it all up in his review (http://spoonyexperiment.com/2012/06/08/vlog-6-8-12-prometheus/).

I think I've avoided spoilers, but let the reader beware.

A character can have major surgery and be running around seconds later without bleeding to death.

What's the beef on the link? We all know elements are stolen from other films and TV shows which has been going for many many years now so that argument is bull. As for your point on the surgery yes I felt this looked wrong as this person was stapled back up, clearly a poor over sight.

STEED

06-11-12, 08:17 AM

Stealhead

06-11-12, 08:38 AM

It had some mistakes writing wise but every film or story has "why did they not simply do that in stead" points if not every story/film would be short and boring.

I highly disagree with the feeling that the Engineers/Space Jockey is ruined but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Seems to me that people either liked the film with its flaws or just your(Angus) short review sounds a lot like an overly picky review I read over on IMDB.Also Spoony seems to have a rather poor taste in films as well look at his review list.

Dowly

06-11-12, 08:57 AM

^ Spoony reviews mainly bad movies and games. IMHO, he is a good reviewer,
I tend to agree with most of his stuff.

And I agree that there were a lot of mistakes and silly stuff in Prometheus,
but what is strange about the film is that even with it's flaws, the big picture
remains unchanged. I can't recall a single point where the story would have
gone the other way if every plot issue would have been ironed out. :hmmm:

!!!SPOILERS!!!

IIRC, the first sign of a threat was the deaths of the 2 scientists and Holloway mutating.
After that everything moved fast towards the ending scene, Shaw does her
surgery and meanwhile Weyland has been awakened and they are preparing
to head off to wake up the Engineer (which no one but David knew about).

!!!SPOILERS!!!

STEED

06-11-12, 12:15 PM

My mate just gave his review and he said...Ridley were you out on the #!$$£@ when this story was written? Wooden acting with plot holes so big this film fell in and lost it. :hmmm:

McBeck

06-11-12, 01:01 PM

I liked it... And will go see it again!

Egan

06-11-12, 03:10 PM

I liked it... And will go see it again!

Yeah, I think I'd like to see it again as well. I'll think I'll be getting the Blu-ray when it comes out.

Egan

06-11-12, 03:18 PM

Just been reading some posts on another forum and a general feeling is coming forward, first part of the film is good. Second part a let down with the re-writing and Ridley Scott taking his eye off the ball.

I don't think the second half is that bad but I agree that the first part is better. I felt he jumped into the second half and attempted to answer questions that the first half had thrown up. I would have much preferred he kept that 'George Lucas' approach in check. There was no need to try to explain everything in the space of the one movie if a sequel is going to be forthcoming.

I was thinking about a preview of the film i read about 18 months ago in Empire and, I have to say, it sounded like it was going to be a much, much darker film at one point. It's a shame they never stuck to that.

STEED

06-13-12, 07:49 AM

I was thinking about a preview of the film i read about 18 months ago in Empire and, I have to say, it sounded like it was going to be a much, much darker film at one point. It's a shame they never stuck to that.

I think if it was much darker it could very well come out as a Cert.18

OK folks a question of scale..

When you see the size of the engineer to the space jockey clearly the jockey is far bigger, what do you you think?

Onkel Neal

07-05-12, 09:51 PM

Saw it, liked it for the grand spectacle and intense action in places.

SPOILERS!!!!!!!

Why did the robot infect the male scientist? What was the point of that?

.

Dowly

07-10-12, 09:42 AM

^ Don't think there's a clear answer to it, but how I see it is that David was following
Weyland's orders to "Try harder!!". Holloway tells David that he'd do
"anything and everything" to get answers, so David took that as a permission
from Holloway that he'd be willing to be a test subject.

Or something. :O:

Dowly

10-09-15, 08:05 AM

STEED

10-09-15, 09:03 AM

Prometheus 2 has now been retitled as "Alien:Paradise Lost" and will be released in 2017. According to Ridley Scott, Alien 5 will also be released in 2017 after Promet-.. Alien:Paradise Lost.

Two Alien films in one year? Yes, please! :yeah:

Don't hold your breath I have a very bad feeling they will be tripe, be prepared for the worst and if they are the hit is less.

Dowly

10-09-15, 09:36 AM

Don't hold your breath I have a very bad feeling they will be tripe, be prepared for the worst and if they are the hit is less.I am wary, of course... buuuut, from Ridley Scott I always expect something good. A:PL, in his words "rearends to Alien" and Ripley is somehow involved, not on screen perhaps, but somehow.

ALIEN 5 seems very promising, seeing Weaver and Biehn together on screen will be worth it and Blomkamp seems to be very excited about it.

Then again.. so were the Strauss brothers about AvP:R :haha:

Ah well, time will tell.

PS. I knew you'd be the first one to reply. :)

STEED

10-09-15, 09:40 AM

I am wary, of course... buuuut, from Ridley Scott I always expect something good. A:PL, in his words "rearends to Alien" and Ripley is somehow involved, not on screen perhaps, but somehow.

ALIEN 5 seems very promising, seeing Weaver and Biehn together on screen will be worth it and Blomkamp seems to be very excited about it.

Then again.. so were the Strauss brothers about AvP:R :haha:

Ah well, time will tell.

PS. I knew you'd be the first one to reply. :)

Granny Ripley teams up with the ghost of Hicks one more time to do battle with the dentist's nightmare. :03::haha:

Do I win a can of beer? :)

Dowly

10-09-15, 09:51 AM

Granny Ripley teams up with the ghost of Hicks one more time to do battle with the dentist's nightmare. :03::haha:

Do I win a can of beer? :)
No, I only got 8 left! Go get your own beer. :stare:

(Party pooper)

STEED

10-09-15, 09:55 AM

No, I only got 8 left! Go get your own beer. :stare:

(Party pooper)

Gannet! :haha:

http://auckland-west.co.nz/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/PICT8561aw.jpg

Betonov

10-09-15, 09:57 AM

maybe he's taking notes from the Martian about making another survival movie.
The magic about Alien was small group in a small space with an enemy you cant pinpoint.

STEED

10-09-15, 10:00 AM

maybe he's taking notes from the Martian about making another survival movie.
The magic about Alien was small group in a small space with an enemy you cant pinpoint.

Just the classic spooky house in the middle of no where and the guests are trapped inside with a killer spin. :)

And yes the spin did work. :cool:

Dowly

10-09-15, 10:01 AM

Well, Ridley speaks of "other travelers" in A:PL, combine that with going back to the Engineers' homeplanet and Ripley, maybe they go to LV-426?

Something happens to David and Shaw, and at the end of the film we hear radio crackle with Nostromo coming down to the planet as per ALIEN.
(CALLED IT :O:)

STEED

10-09-15, 12:27 PM

Dowly

11-16-15, 02:12 PM

Now it's called Alien: Covenant, geez, make up your mind! :haha:

Release date: October 6th, 2017

Also, official plot details:
“Bound for a remote planet on the far side of the galaxy,
the crew of the colony ship Covenant discovers what they think is an
uncharted paradise, but is actually a dark, dangerous world — whose sole
inhabitant is the “synthetic” David (Michael Fassbender), survivor of the
doomed Prometheus expedition.”

Source: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/11/16/alien-covenant-officially-announced-october-2017-release-plot-details/

Nippelspanner

11-16-15, 08:05 PM

Awww -.-

STEED

11-17-15, 03:08 PM

Ridley http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/315ItOZ4fkL.jpg Scott

STEED

01-25-17, 04:17 PM

ALIEN 5 looks like its dead in the water.

Alien 5: Neill Blomkamp casts fresh doubt on sequel with Sigourney Weaver
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/alien-5-alien-covenant-sigourney-weaver-ripley-release-date-is-it-happening-neill-blomkamp-ridley-a7542936.html#gallery

In some ways I am happy this will never see the light of day. Ripley is to old and Hicks is dead so live with it and move on and lets see a fresh new idea.

Skybird

01-25-17, 05:23 PM

The first two Alien movies were good. Different, chamber play versus action rollercoaster, but each of them good in its own way.

Everything coming after that, was unnecessary, if not even crap. Don't need and don't want another fifth crappy Alien movie.

Predator: the same. First movie was okay for what it was. The others: uaaahhhh.

Coin milking at its worst.

Dowly

01-26-17, 03:56 AM

Skybird

01-26-17, 06:32 AM

You're wrong and smell like poop. :hmph:
I am right, and its better to smell like poop than to be a kangarooh eater. :arrgh!:

Nippelspanner

01-26-17, 12:06 PM

Then please enlighten me how Alien3 was either crap or "unnecessary" (an arguably useless term when speaking art).

To me it sounds like band-wagon talk, at least when people don't deliver any example.
They heard how bad the movie is so they just accept this apparently common point of view...
However, alien 3 is far from being a bad movie. It picked up where aliens left off and ended ripley's arc in a plausible and dramatic - yet not cheesy way.
But somehow it's crap...

Dowly

01-26-17, 12:31 PM

I'd be uttering alternate facts, if I said I liked Alien 3 the couple of first times I saw it, but over the years it has been climbing up my top Alien films list and is now comfortably sitting on the same couch with ALIEN... with maybe a small book under it. (The A3 creature design has already surpassed that of the original in my mind)

I might sound a bit "elitist", but I think not many who have seen Alien 3 once or twice really understand what Fincher was going for with it. Alien 3 is about Ripley's fall after her rise in ALIEN and her peak in ALIENS.
No matter how hard she fights, she cannot win, and she comes to terms with this as she finds out about the Queen growing inside of her. She simply gives up at this point, trying to get herself killed twice (by the alien and by Dillon),
and only continues to fight the alien because of Dillon's promise to kill her after the beast is dealt with.

I very much prefer Alien 3 as the ending for Ripley's story arc over the "happily ever after" ending of ALIENS.

But that's just me.

PS. Skybird, I might drink Foster's every now and then, but I don't eat Kangaroos. :o

Skybird

01-26-17, 12:41 PM

You don't remember what you have eaten and whom you slept with, if you drank sufficient Fosters. You have not eaten your Kangaroo? That leaves just one other option then.

:O:

Nippelspanner

01-26-17, 01:24 PM

Roo is delicious btw!

Platapus

01-27-17, 08:19 PM

Some of The Frau's relatives who are living in Australia came to visit. They told me that Fosters is Australian for S... uh, it is undesirable. :D

Jimbuna

01-28-17, 07:42 AM

Some of The Frau's relatives who are living in Australia came to visit. They told me that Fosters is Australian for S... uh, it is undesirable. :D

Yes, Foster's is just about an export only beer in the eyes of Aussies but tbh, I drink a lot of it....the price is usually acceptable :03:

Von Due

01-28-17, 08:33 AM

Having watched A1-A4, I don't know if a 5th will do it for me. For me, it comes down to the effect Alien had when it came out only 2 years after Star Wars. More that than the cinematic quality of the later movies.

When Star Wars came out, the world went crazy with 2-dimensional fantasies filled with sheer awesomeness, awesome space ships, awesome droids, awesome light sabres making awesome sounds, with well defined everything, the heros were always heros and the baddies were always bad. It was all clean, tidy, safe and well sorted out like any Snow White or Cinderella.

Then came Alien and tore up the fantasies we had, shredded them to bloody bits. Alien was terrifying. No lasers here to help you, no force, just a mean spirited mother of all monsters out and about for nobody knew what reason. Space was a horrible place to be.

That effect only works the first time. 5 times is right out.

The movies after the first, they are alright. Not bad, not great, they're alright but they can never achieve the same importance as the first one. Would I watch a 5th? Yeah probably.

Now for Fosters. I reckon they are Australia's way of getting even with the country that sent the doomed across the globe to get rid of them. It was for me rather disappointing to visit England/Wales only to find that the fabled British ales were nowhere to be found in any pub. Only Fosters, Stella and Guinness, might find a Newcastle Brown if the place fancied to call itself traditional but that was it. Then again, why would I want lukewarm decarbonated ale? :O: