any subculture members?

[DarkFish]

As I'm often quite interested in other cultures, I was wondering, are there any other subsim members that are or have been part of a distinct subculture?

If so, please define that culture. I don't really mean the clothing and looks and such, but more the underlying thoughts, behavourial rules, values etc. of that culture. In other words, the things you can't really see at first glance. The little facts that might surprise an outsider. The things that are likely the reason why you are a member of this culture.

I'll start of as a member of the local metal community:

Name of subculture: Metalhead

Music: metal. Almost all metalheads also listen to other kinds of rock though, ranging from hardcore punk to 60's psychedelic rock to the beatles. Extensive knowledge of the history of rock and metal is held in high regard.
Metal lyrics are often sad and highly romantic, or instead very heroic. They often show a deep interest in our ancestors' cultures and history, most clearly seen in Folk and Viking Metal.

Looks (males): Black bandshirt, black or blue jeans. Often wearing leather jackets, also common are zipped black hoodies with a band logo (though barely worn with the hood on). Sometimes wearing leather bracebands, occasionally with studs or spikes.
We often wear our hair long. Beards are very common.
Pictures of metalheads wearing face paint ("corpsepaint") are well known, though in fact corpsepaint is barely used, and almost exclusively by members of the Black Metal subculture.

Looks (females): Dressing rules for female metalheads are much less strict. Clothing can range from the stereotypical (male) metalhead clothing to dresses bordering on the goth culture, to flowery colourful shirts to a plain shirt with a zipped hoodie. Hair is once again worn long.
For some reason I can usually easily recognise female metalheads, even though they lack a common easily recognisable factor. I suspect it has something to do with both their clothing and behaviour lacking the whorish, overly sexified looks of mainstream girls (or occasionally being extremely sexy, but in a totally different way).

Behaviour: To the outside we try to look tough and masculine, much like the bikers of whom we inherited some of our culture.
To the inside, we're in some ways still much like the hippies we and our music descend from. We drink loads of beer and usually smoke drugs like weed or hash. Under our shield to the outside world, we're all kind and unagressive people. If another (befriended) metalhead gets into any kind of trouble, we see it as almost an obligation to help him out. I guess that's one of the advantages of belonging to a more or less secluded society, there's lots of comradeship.
Other subcultures are often frowned upon. Some, like goths or punks, are accepted, while others like hiphop are blatantly despised.
There's still some masculinity and looking-tough within our culture, and funnily enough the women have copied some of that (I guess they more or less have to in a male-dominated culture). For example, 3 female metalhead friends of mine are extensive gamers. And 4 out of the 7 women in the first 3 years of my study, one of the studies with the lowest male-female ratio, listen to metal.

Composition: Mostly caucasian males ages 16-30. I guesstimate the male-female ratio about 4 males to 1 female. Non-caucasian metalheads are not completely nonexistent although extremely rare.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Metalhead_Kids.jpg

[antikristuseke]

I'm a metalhead, though I no logner have long hair and in my black work suit look more like 47.

[CCIP]

I'm part of a sub culture, the kind we have here at subsim :D

Honestly I don't really like labels, although at the same time I have to tip my hat to metalheads generally - I know quite a few and all have been great people. The fact that I love the music, too, helps.

I don't think I fit any particular subculture and I've consciously been avoiding that. If I fit any cultural grouping, though, it'd be that of young humanitarian academics, which actually have a lot in common with metalheads. We're generally private, liberally-minded (not necessarily in the political sense), long-haired, and have weird tastes in art. We just use more big words. And fewer of us know how to really rock out, much to my disappointment :rock:

[Madox58]

I've been a Sub whatever for most of my life.
I'm 53 in a few days and I'm a Biker.
Not one of the "I just bought a new HD for the first time so I'm bad" Bikers.
But one who has lived most of his life with the True mentality of a Biker.
I'm not a 1%er nor have I ever worn Colors.
As the saying goes,
If I have to explain it? You wouldn't understand.

[Platapus]

I don't know if BDSM qualifies as a sub culture (although there is an almost clever pun in there).

As a group we are still socially and in some cases legally frowned upon by "normal" society.

To people on the outside, we probably all resemble each other, but inside the culture (to use your term) we are as varied as any other cultural group.

We do tend to use terms like "the community" or "the scene" to differentiate our selves from "vanillas" (another term).

We don't laugh alike, nor walk alike, but at times we talk alike. (what a crazy pair).

Dunno if that qualifies as a subculture for your purposes.

[Dowly]

I'm not a 1%er nor have I ever worn Colors.


And for that, I salute you my friend. :salute:

[DarkFish]

I don't know if BDSM qualifies as a sub culture (although there is an almost clever pun in there).lol:haha: Well I guess if it's a subculture depends on from whose side you look at it :D


I'm a metalhead, though I no logner have long hair and in my black work suit look more like 47.Yeah I remember seeing a pic of you at some metal festival. You did indeed have long hair, but next time you grow your hair long, you may want to grow it downwards instead of straight up:DL


I've been a Sub whatever for most of my life.
I'm 53 in a few days and I'm a Biker.
Not one of the "I just bought a new HD for the first time so I'm bad" Bikers.
But one who has lived most of his life with the True mentality of a Biker.
I'm not a 1%er nor have I ever worn Colors.
As the saying goes,
If I have to explain it? You wouldn't understand.And that's the right way to do it:rock:
Same goes for metalheads, you can put on a band shirt and some jeans and pretend you're part of us. Most real metalheads would have you classified as a poseur within 10 secs of speaking to or even looking at you. Just like wearing the right clothes and listening to the occasional metal song doesn't make you a metalhead, I can exactly understand how buying a HD doesn't make you a biker.:salute:


I'm part of a sub culture, the kind we have here at subsim :DBernard!!! When I said "subculture" I didn't mean you should start painting our sub Rembrandt style:stare:

I don't think I fit any particular subculture and I've consciously been avoiding that. If I fit any cultural grouping, though, it'd be that of young humanitarian academics, which actually have a lot in common with metalheads. We're generally private, liberally-minded (not necessarily in the political sense), long-haired, and have weird tastes in art. We just use more big words. And fewer of us know how to really rock out, much to my disappointment :rock:Yeah even though most metalheads I know (myself included) are pretty outgoing people, we indeed often have something private in us. We've often got something "nerdy" that most "young humanitarian academics" as you put it also have:)

[Rilder]

Down with the Clown Till I'm Dead in the Ground. :arrgh!:

Can't really explain more then that beyond painted faces and horrorcore music (Though non horrorcore music can be down with the clown)

[Dowly]

Please, show me some good horrorcore (seriously), I'm only familiar with KidCrusher (Cradle of Filth acapella) and Kill C (which was just effing stupid). :hmmm:

[the_tyrant]

:hmmm: I'm pretty sure for the less computer illiterate folks forum culture counts

[Rilder]

Please, show me some good horrorcore (seriously), I'm only familiar with KidCrusher (Cradle of Filth acapella) and Kill C (which was just effing stupid). :hmmm:

Well Twiztid has some good stuff, Anything off W.I.C.K.E.D. for example, there's also Tech N9ne who I tend to enjoy. A Rapper Friend of mine, called Mista Sykness also has some downright vicious stuff too...

You kinda have to be specific though when thinking anything Psychopathic though, since their artists are quite varied and different. ABK tends to have a Native American tone in his rap and Boondox has southern/gothic tones in his songs about murder. :P

[MothBalls]

I'm part of what has become a sub-culture in America.

I served in in the military, a family tradition for over 90 years in my family.

I worked my ass off and put myself through college, took me 8 years to do it.

I got a decent job and worked my ass off for for 20 years. Then I started my own business and worked my ass off making sure my employees came first.

I raised 2 kids who are both in college and working, they support themselves and I pay for their education. They don't drink, do drugs and have never been arrested. They have manners and respect their elders.

I pay my taxes, pay my bills, don't use credit cards and could retire at any time, but I keep working because I keep people employed and I enjoy what I do.

I don't believe in handouts, social programs mismanaged by the government, spending $500,000 dollars to study the mating habits of purple frogs in winter when we have disabled veterans walking the streets hungry. I think people should have to perform community service to collect unemployment or welfare. If you stick out your hand asking me for a handout, it better be calloused from hard work or I'll unscrew your hand from your wrist.

In America, I am now part of the subculture called "The Establishment".

[Sledgehammer427]

I guess, and by all means this is a guess, I'm what has become of the "Greaser" subculture.
all of my friends and I talk cars, we work on our cars and each other's cars...we aren't a street gang, and we don't go roving in packs, but I've been to the drag strip a couple times making sure my buddie's cars are good to go and making sure nothing broke. Drag races aren't my thing though, I'm more of a road racer, I'd take a GT40 driving the 24 hours of Le Mans than a top fuel dragster. Actually, my main aspiration in life is to one day own a GT40 continuation model. I'd like to get into professional racing, and make a career of it someday.

ah well. We don't have any specific clothing, and we tend to get girls from just about everywhere, and I'm dating the only girl who has any semblance of the gearheadedness,

alas...we are pretty well known at the lights...:D

[Penguin]

I just asked my woman the same question, she replied "Yes, you are. The question is to which you belong to." :DL

So I guess I have to elaborate my life a little. This evening, when I have the time and a beer, I will write some stories down.


antikristuske: were there any estonian subcultural bands during soviet times?

Platapus: there is definitely a bdsm subsulture, though this doesn't mean that anyone practicing it is a member of it.

MothBalls: You're mixing minority with subculture :03: - no offense, I respect your opinion

[August]

Am I a subculture member?

Nope, I guess not. I have my interests but they don't own me.

[razark]

Name of subculture: razark

Music: Whatever I feel like listening to. Ranging from classical to modern, with a little bit of just about everything thrown in.

Looks (males): Whatever. T-shirt and jeans or shorts, depending on the weather. Casual clothes for work. Ties are out. Hair, long. (Not to make a statement, just because I don't like going for a haircut.)

Looks (females): Not applicable.

Behaviour: Whatever I deem appropriate for the situation.

Composition: A subculture of one.

I've never really been a member of any subculture. Never really felt the need to define myself as a member of a group. I am simply myself, and I don't see any need to change what I am just to fit in with any particular group. If you accept me as I am, than you accept me. If you don't accept me, then I probably would not fit with your group anyway.

[Penguin]

my boring story:

it all started with the music...

After getting my first rock tapes from my older cousin with stuff like Motörhead and Maiden, I was addicted: needed more and more of this crazy rock thing. I was about 12/13 then.

At the age of about 14 I became a Psychobilly. It was really an 80's thing, mostly in Germany, GB and the Netherlands. The music being a mixture of rockabilly and punk. Check out The Meteors, as they were the first band who played this stuff, to get an impression of the music. The dress code was somehow between rude boy/skin, ted, rockabilly and punk. It was a subculture with everything that the term includes: unique music, concerts, clothing and not to forget gang violence. The people who hated us most were the teds (teddyboys), not too few were still running around at this time. They despised us for having stolen their music and dress code and having it turned upside down, lol. As we never were too many, in comparision to other youth subcultures we had no other chance than to stand and fight together as one - man, this really sounds pathetic in the retrospective, but I'm just telling you how it was.
Other groups where we used to get into fights with were immigrant gangs, metal guys - though we had metalheads running with us- and of couse the usual struggle with the law... It was non-political in the true meaning: it was only about music and having fun. There were italians, french, even an iranian girl and a long-haired neonazi were among the gang I was associated with, politics really never played a big role.
Over the time, this whole stuff became one-dimensional, boring and ****ty. Too many idiots and right-wing arseholes came into the scene, just having a flattop (our haircut), knowing nothing about the music. Oh yes, not to forget the inner-subcult fight: people who believed only the traditional psycho style was the true one and people who listened to the more punkish style, expressed by bands like Demented Are Go, Klingonz, King Kurt were enemies. :nope: When you had a dyed flat or - heaven forbid- a coloured flat, you could get in trouble with your "own" people.
At about the age of 17/18 I seperated more and more from these people and then I turned to the wonderfull world of Punkrock, a music which I had listened to a little bit for the whole time.

End of part one...
feel free to ask questions about, if someone is interested I'll continue with the next 20 years...