My theory on the missing harbors etc

[THE_MASK]

My theory on the missing harbors etc
I think the problem some people have with this game is not enough video card memory .
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1418804&postcount=4

[Trevally.]

I agree Sober

I think all the "sometimes missing" things could all be caused by mem issues:-

Depth under keel
No nav officer call outs
Missing harbours

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1558292&postcount=5

[THE_MASK]

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Originally Posted by Pintea http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1427701#post1427701)
First of all, the patch "readme" is wrong.
The 3GB switch won't do anything performance-wise. It will just avoid errors and crashes when SH5 runs out of "memory" (addressing space actually).
And it will only matter for 32 bit systems.

Even though you only have 2GB RAM, the 3GB switch refers to _virtual memory_, not physical memory. So you can enable the 3GB switch even with 1 GB of RAM, it will help.

If you have windows vista/7, the more video RAM you have, the more your harbors will disappear ! (as paradoxical as it can be....)
That's because the video card memory uses the same 2GB of virtual memory as the game uses, so you will have less memory for the game.

As a conclusion, this will only avoid errors/crashes, and only works on 32bit systems (with more positive impact for vista/win7 uses).

Originally Posted by Pintea http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1427701#post1427701)
First of all, the patch "readme" is wrong.
The 3GB switch won't do anything performance-wise. It will just avoid errors and crashes when SH5 runs out of "memory" (addressing space actually).
And it will only matter for 32 bit systems.

Even though you only have 2GB RAM, the 3GB switch refers to _virtual memory_, not physical memory. So you can enable the 3GB switch even with 1 GB of RAM, it will help.

If you have windows vista/7, the more video RAM you have, the more your harbors will disappear ! (as paradoxical as it can be....)
That's because the video card memory uses the same 2GB of virtual memory as the game uses, so you will have less memory for the game.

As a conclusion, this will only avoid errors/crashes, and only works on 32bit systems (with more positive impact for vista/win7 uses).

[Madox58]

And what if We could patch the files to create more then 2 GIG virtual?
Say 4 GIG?
:hmmm:

[THE_MASK]

And what if We could patch the files to create more then 2 GIG virtual?
Say 4 GIG?
:hmmm: Sounds great
doesnt affect me though
windows 7 64 bit profesional
8 gigs corsair ram@ 2000mhz
2 x EAH 5870 sli

[Madox58]

From the post,

If you have windows vista/7, the more video RAM you have, the more your harbors will disappear ! (as paradoxical as it can be....)
That's because the video card memory uses the same 2GB of virtual memory as the game uses, so you will have less memory for the game.

So I'd think increaseing the virtual memory area would help with Windows 7 32 bit Users?

Windows 7 64 bit Users are not affected by this I read the post to mean.

[THE_MASK]

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778(v=vs.85).aspx

[Webster]

i dont have problems with harbors missing but the docks arent rendered until your "much" closer then the ships and harbors so your unobstructed very long range shot at a docked ship has a pier or dock appear in its way like magic to catch your torpedo and you've wasted it.

this situation hasnt changed even thou i went from win xp with 2gb ram to my vista + 4gb ram upgrade. all i got was prettier views :D

i think sober is right about what some people mean by problems with the harbor rendering issue, its just there are other rendering issues that are game related too.

ships are rendered and can be seen at the greatest distance, then land formations, then harbors, and the last to be rendered and at what i feel is too short a distance will the dock/pier finally show up.

[Harmsway!]

I'm having the Depth under keel and No nav officer call outs problem. Really the same problem. Its a roll of the dice when its going to happen. I haven't been able to pin down the cause. I uninstalled all mods and still got it. So now all the mods are back on. Including Speech fixes and additions (german version) (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showthread.php?t=174063).

windows 7 64 bit 4G ram
video card ATI 4890 w/1G memory

For me it's an annoyance. Whenever I load up I go through a silly series
of game steps;

1) check Depth under keel bug
2) unchecked mouse tips
3) unchecked TC tips
4) unchecked nav map mouse tips
5) click patrol orders !
6) wet nurse Benno

[Captain Can]

6) wet nurse Benno
:har::har::haha:

[Madox58]

i dont have problems with harbors missing but the docks arent rendered until your "much" closer then the ships and harbors so your unobstructed very long range shot at a docked ship has a pier or dock appear in its way like magic to catch your torpedo and you've wasted it.

this situation hasnt changed even thou i went from win xp with 2gb ram to my vista + 4gb ram upgrade. all i got was prettier views :D

i think sober is right about what some people mean by problems with the harbor rendering issue, its just there are other rendering issues that are game related too.

ships are rendered and can be seen at the greatest distance, then land formations, then harbors, and the last to be rendered and at what i feel is too short a distance will the dock/pier finally show up.

Maybe an LOD setting in the GR2 files, or some other file?
:hmmm:

[Harmsway!]

And I wanted to be Kapitän

[THE_MASK]

Wasnt there a render distance setting in SH4 in graphics options ?

[Madox58]

Yes there is.
The GR2 files for SH5 have some imbedded.
I've not messed with them but I can edit them.
I'll be looking at likely subjects for testing this.

[THE_MASK]

Just on another subject , i am sure there was a patch for sh4 that addressed the sinking ships in the distance . The ships are suppose to fade into the background , not look like they are sinking in sh5 . any ideas ?

[THE_MASK]

Also another bug is when i operate the hydrophone myself a contact is only heard on a single bearing . I can hear a ship on say bearing 15 but nothing either side . I know sh3/4 hydrophone was correct and the radio has a diminishing noise either side of the frequency in sh5 .

[Webster]

Also another bug is when i operate the hydrophone myself a contact is only heard on a single bearing . I can hear a ship on say bearing 15 but nothing either side . I know sh3/4 hydrophone was correct and the radio has a diminishing noise either side of the frequency in sh5 .


sounds like another thing they broke to dumb down the game so even a beginner cant get the bearing wrong :har:

they musta been smoking something not to see how bad some of the changes they made were effecting the game because the only other explanation was they WANTED it to be an idiot proof arcade game.