Some misunderstandings regarding Islam

[the_tyrant]

http://www.cracked.com/article_18911_5-ridiculous-things-you-probably-believe-about-islam_p1.html

The first cracked article to be actually interestingly informative for a long time

[TLAM Strike]

In before the flame war... :O:

[Takeda Shingen]

In before Obama.

[Morts]

In before lock.

[ETR3(SS)]

In before Skybird.:O:

[antikristuseke]

Out before Dowly.

[Sailor Steve]

In before...well, nothing, actually.

Interesting points. Thanks, The_Tyrant. :sunny:

[onelifecrisis]

Yeah, good article, thanks tyrant.

Somewhat off topic, but until I read the article linked in the OP I'd never seen this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrnRU3ocIH4#t=0m42s) before. I have to say I think McCain responded admirably to those questions.

[Garion]

In to add +1 to my post count :woot:

Cheers

Garion

[nikimcbee]

Buna akhbar:woot:

[nikimcbee]

In to add +1 to my post count :woot:

Cheers

Garion

Speaking of posts.... 8700:woot:

Bacon is on the house!

[Oberon]

In...wait...dammit guys! :damn:

[Gargamel]

In before..... err.... umm....

Ok, well that was an excellent read.

Such a sad state the world is in when the .1% extremists of any group (That Kansas church, the pstor from florida, terroists, etc) are the 'accepted' representative of that group.

When 99% of a group looks at the 1% and says "what the **** bob?", the world shouldn't be holding Bob as the typical.

So let's all turn off our TV's, ignore the talking heads, and actually go meet other cultures we don't know about and get to know them.

Oh, right, this is real life..... sigh :nope:

[AVGWarhawk]

In before...well...something.....:shifty:

[TLAM Strike]

Such a sad state the world is in when the .1% extremists of any group (That Kansas church, the pstor from florida, terroists, etc) are the 'accepted' representative of that group.

When 99% of a group looks at the 1% and says "what the **** bob?", the world shouldn't be holding Bob as the typical.

Seems to be quite a bit more than 1%...

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/130-million-strong-al-qaedas-deep-muslim-support/?singlepage=true

Pew also provides each polled country’s percentages of support for al-Qaeda: 34 percent of Jordanians, 49 percent of Nigerian Muslims, 3 percent of Lebanese, 20 percent of Egyptians, 23 percent of Indonesians, 18 percent of Pakistanis, and 4 percent of Turks.Nigeria, Egypt, Indonesia and Pakistan are four of the most populated Muslim countries.

[XabbaRus]

ah pajamasmedia..that great institution of unbiased journalism.

This is the same outlet that Kim Zigfeld writes for linked to her blog la russophobe...

[Skybird]

Islam is what the revealed and incarnated word of God - the Quran - tells that it is, wanting to alter that means to alter the word of God (death to you for even considering that, you heretic!), and nothing in that essay changes the totalitarian, racist and supremacist basic nature of that message. The essay ignores quite many of the not so nice stories of Islamic history, of Muhammad's biography, and implications of the Quranic teaching. Some of the stuff on page two, for the second and first headline there, is historically misleading, sometimes even wrong.

Facism does not become a nice ideology just because some Nazis had polite manners, and the German attack war doe snot become justifiable just becasue sometimes German officers acted with gallantry and nobless towards thewir enemies in battle. - And Muhammad does not become less a godfather and murderous criminal just because occasionally he forfeit on enslaving women, or calling for the assassination of critics.

Not all people calling themselves "Muslim" are radical fundamentalists. But that does not make the Quran's ideology a less radical fundamentalist ideology of supremacism, racism and monoculturalism.

And the point about the veil - is disputed amongst Muslim clerics themselves. The Quran however demands that women shall cover themselves and hide from the view of foreign men. Originally, the demand was linked to that they should not do their toilet business in public and within sight of foreign men. The supressive character of any cloathing rules for women just came later.

[Sailor Steve]

In to add +1 to my post count :woot:

Cheers

Garion
Post count? Is that all you think about??? What a loser! :nope:




Not really. I just wanted to give you a reason to bump it some more. Nothing does that like a good flame. :sunny:

[Platapus]

Post count? Is that all you think about??? What a loser! :nope:




Not really. I just wanted to give you a reason to bump it some more. Nothing does that like a good flame. :sunny:

Bumping a thread like this is kinda like poking a dying fire with a poker. Lots of sparks and a temporary flare up, but it still dies down. ;)

[tater]

Thought it was pretty weak, actually.

While the notion that 10% are terrorists is obviously absurd, the reality is that a large % support terrorism. That doesn't mean they aid actual terrorism, but they agree with those that do it, and that makes it easy for the real terrorists to blend in. I have no idea what % of southerners were in the KKK, for example, but it's not just the members that matter, but the non-members that looked the other way. Ditto nazis—most were not party members, but most people looked the other way or otherwise supported them through action or INaction.

The whitewash int he article regarding Muslim rules of warfare is pretty funny. It ignores, for example, slavery of the captured. Slavery that was only eliminated in the late 1960s, in fact.

And while the idiotic, scientifically illiterate fundamentalists of other faiths (Christians) are also backwards, all major denominations of Islam are in fact literalists. NONE believe in the entire basis of modern cosmology or biology (both being mutually exclusive with biblical or koranic literalism).

Bottom line is that conflating Islam with the worst of Christianity is perfectly fine, but it's important to at least not that the numbers also matter. When the bulk of Christian, mainstream denominations act like Westboro Baptists, then the analogy works better.

[Garion]

Post count? Is that all you think about??? What a loser! :nope:




Not really. I just wanted to give you a reason to bump it some more. Nothing does that like a good flame. :sunny:
Sniff! I just wanted to belong...... <runs away sobbing and hides in cupboard>:D

Cheers

Garion

[onelifecrisis]

Thought it was pretty weak, actually.

ATTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!! :stare: