SH3 Commander Not Doing What I Say?

[Jack Cutter]

So, I have a few questions. I have Silent Hunter 3 plus GWX 3.0 plus SH3 Commander, and when I start a new career...well here's an example...

I set my start date to be August 8th, 1940

I select the 7th/13th Flotilla and a VIIC as my U-boat type. I also choose a U-boat number (Let's say 77)

Now I understand that I must go into the game and the changes will take effect after I start and save from my first patrol...however...

When I exit SH3 Commander and come back, none of my settings have taken effect. The In game date will still be October 1st of 1940, and I'm given a VIIB, and not the VIIC like I chose.

I also have to reassign my same U-boat number.

To add to this, when I select "Use Real Ship Names" in Captain's log, and sink ships, I do get ship names, but never any crew information. I decided to post a screenie of my personnel file when I review it after updating it. You'll see the ship names and original type and tonnage, but no crew lost like other people's logs I have seen here...
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm48/Night_Hawkphotos/PersonnelFileNoCrewInfo.jpg

Please ignore my meager 10k tons... :oops: Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?

Thanks in advance Kaleuns! :salute::ping:

[Gerald]

Sign in and update your personnel file, and then back to look at your patrol log

[Jack Cutter]

I just updated it again after opening Commander and it still displays the same page with only the ship names and tonnage, no crew information.

Sorry, I find this confusing too...:doh:

[Jimbuna]

What mods if any do you have enabled?

[Jack Cutter]

What mods if any do you have enabled?

Silent Hunter 3 + GWX 3.0 + SH3 Commander

Then I have the lifeboats mod v4
Enhanced damage effects
Torpedo Damage Mod Final V2
No Medals on Crew
Open Hatch Mod
English Nav Map
Integrated Orders
Lite Harbor Traffic
Das Boot Opening Movie

That's all I have on and activated.

[Sailor Steve]

Which version of Commander? Only 3.2 gives the full ship information.

[Mittelwaechter]

In Commander you start a new career with these settings:

name of Kaleun
August 1940 (8th is not possible)
7/13th flotilla
VIIC - 77
(crew and grid)

Now start the game and repeat the settings ingame as far as possible:

confirm new career and name of Kaleun
set year to 1940
select 7/13th flotilla

Start the career and a 'calculation' starts to let you finally start at your office in Kiel in August 1940 in command of a VIIC with number 77.

[Capt. Morgan]

...Now I understand that I must go into the game and the changes will take effect after I start and save from my first patrol...however...

When I exit SH3 Commander and come back, none of my settings have taken effect. ...

Pardon me if I'm wrong here, but from what you posted, it sounds like you are fully exiting SH3-Commander and then starting SH3. If so then that's the problem. You have to launch SH3 from inside SH3 Commander - use the check-mark icon on the lower right corner

[Jack Cutter]

Pardon me if I'm wrong here, but from what you posted, it sounds like you are fully exiting SH3-Commander and then starting SH3. If so then that's the problem. You have to launch SH3 from inside SH3 Commander - use the check-mark icon on the lower right corner

No, I'm sorry, it was my description. I'm running the game through commander by using the check mark, I probably should've been more clear.

@ Sailor Steve I'm using the 3.2 Version

@Mittelwaechter, Thank you, I'll try that. I think the start is my main problem because I am trying to start in August, 1940. I'll set it for a different month... I still don't understand the lack of crew information for sunk ships on the captain's log...
The manual says
"Use real ship names in patrol logs: Select this option to replace the generic Silent Hunter III
ship names (ie ‘C3 Cargo’) in the patrol logs with real ship names and (where known) cargo
and crew details."

I wonder if by where known, it means crew information will only be displayed for the historical ships? Because, whenI play SH3 GWX launched through commander, I run a patrol and sink ships, exit SH3 GWX and the commander window re-opens. I update my personnel profile, and the only thing shown is the names of the ships I sunk, and their tonnages no crew lost or cargo information...

[Mittelwaechter]

It doesn't change the ingame logs but the SH3 Commander patrol logs. Cklick for available actions... Review patrol logs...

http://www.abload.de/img/plqhr6.jpg

[Svendog]

There's a .cfg file you need to run commander with GWX. Have you installed this? Regards, Sven.

[Sailor Steve]

Next question: When you say you "run a patrol and sink ships, exit SH3 GWX and the commander window re-opens", are you finishing the patrol or stopping in the middle? Commander only updates when the patrol is done.

Even as I ask I know that is probably not the case, because I don't think Commmander updates the names either, until the patrol is over.

This is getting interesting. I'm curious to hear what Jaesen will say when he gets here.

Edit: I wonder if by where known, it means crew information will only be displayed for the historical ships?
Unfortunately they are all historical ships. I get names and info for everything, so I'm wondering what it could be.

[Jack Cutter]

@ Sailor Steve: Yes, I run a patrol and sink whatever I can, which is usually not alot :oops: and then I return to base and exit SH3 which then kicks me back to my desktop and the career information window of SH3 Commander. Sorry I need to be more clear on what I type...4am after 3 beers usually leaves me very sleepy, and therefore unclear on my posts... :-?

@Mittelwaechter: Yeah, it won't display anything on the in-game captain's log until you save after patrol is finished, exit SH3 and update your career in commander, which is what I've been doing...and yet it displays everything yours shows except for the ships cargo and crew lost...very strange...

@Svendog: Thanks for double checking on that, but I did find the GWX cfg file download that installs after you install the original. I read the posts over before I installed commander and it said install the original version, then install the CFG Files for GWX to add to commander. Is this my problem? Was I only supposed to install the CFG Files for GWX version, or did I do it right by installing Commander original then installing the GWX CFG files? I could've sworn that I read that that was the process...

Thanks again to everyone who is continuing to try to help me. In the end, thankfully it's not a huge problem. I still get ship names added to my patrol logs when I update, just no crew info, which is mostly just eye candy. I still however, can't start in a VIIC Sub from the 7th/13th flotilla in 1940 no matter what month I tell commander to start, but again, these are just trivial problems, that don't really affect gameplay. I almost have enough renown to switch to a VIIC. :yeah:

[Svendog]

That sounds like you installed it correctly. Sorry I can't be more helpfull. I stopped using commander because I seemed to be plagued with CTD problems when I used it, both in GWX and in the stock game. Hope someone can help you shipmate. Sven.

[Jimbuna]

The GWX CFG for SH3 Commander should be added AFTER SH3 Commander has been installed....it would appear you've followed the correct procedure.

[Sailor Steve]

Something else you might try is to download the latest Ship Names version. I know for a fact it has the crew and cargo information for every merchant class, plus several thousand more names than the one that comes with the mod.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=2746

[JScones]

Jack, make sure that neither SH3 or SH3Cmdr are installed in your Program Files folder. If either or both are, well, then there is your problem.

It doesn't change the ingame logs but the SH3 Commander patrol logs. Cklick for available actions... Review patrol logs...
Wrong. SH3Cmdr modifies the actual game files, meaning the modifications will show up in both SH3Cmdr Personnel Files AND the ingame patrol log...
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7751/sh3img1810200918344984.jpg

[Jack Cutter]

Oh, crap, they are both installed in my programs folder...what should I do? :timeout:

I'm afraid to delete either entry...should I uninstall/reinstall? If that's what I have to do, where should I install commander after I reinstall SH3 and GWX?

[Gerald]

After re-install, you should install SH3 Commander outside SH3/Ubisoft/Silent Hunter,and not in the same folder

[Jimbuna]

Oh, crap, they are both installed in my programs folder...what should I do? :timeout:

I'm afraid to delete either entry...should I uninstall/reinstall? If that's what I have to do, where should I install commander after I reinstall SH3 and GWX?

Uninstall both, not forgetting to delete the SH3 folder in C\MyDocs

Perform a registry clean using something like the free trial option of the programme linked below:

http://www.regvac.com/fregvac.htm

If you click on my sig it will take you to the GWX website where comprehensive installation instructions are available.

I'm not sure what OS your using but if it is XP the SH3 installer will create a Ubisoft folder in C\ProgramFiles....create another folder in C\ProgramFiles and rename it to SH3Commander (I'm not sure if Commander does this for you it has been quite a while since I've needed to reinstall it).

If your OS is W7 create a folder in your C drive and name it Games, within that folder create two more and name one Ubisoft (that is where you should install SH3 to) and the other SH3 Commander (no prizes for guessing what programme you should install into that one).

Don't forget to add the GWX CFG file to Commander.

Good Luck http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Jack Cutter]

So, I tried the above mentioned. I uninstalled everything (SH3 GWX and SH Commander) wiped out everything to do with all the folders, and reinstalled. I installed commander to a seperate folder, and it screwed up my system majorly...I know it was a mistake on my part, combined with the fact that windows Vista is a horrible little OS.

At any rate, a system restore fixed the actual windows issues, and then I just said, screw it and installed SH3 and GWX 3.0 and SH3 Commander+ the GWX CFG for Commander to the regular menus where they wanted to install to begin with (C:/Programs Folder) figuring, at least commander lets me do everything else I want. I just settled with the idea of getting only the ship names and tonnages. I really didn't need to know cargo and crew information. Having lost my previous 5 patrol career which wasn't going so well to begin with, I decided to start another career and chose a name, the 7th/13th Flotilla and a VIIB boat.

I let SH choose my U-boat number, not having one off the top of my head. I got U-101 and decided to keep the number. I set out on my first patrol and immediately returned to base (Edited logbook to read as a shake down cruise so SH Commander could make necessary adjustments)

I did not adjust anything on my U-boat before this patrol. I have read that there are some known bugs that would cause, including not being rewarded for sinking shipping. I have never had that problem, and before reading that I would always set my U-boat up the way I wanted it and the go on patrol. I do not know why I chose to do it differently this time around...

Anyways, I go out on my second patrol and I only manage to sink 3 merchants all single contacts throughout the entire mission. I stayed at sea for 14 days (not long at all, but 7 days of severely rough weather annihilated my fuel reserves) and finally I return to port. Exit SH3 and return to commander's main window. I update my personnel profile like normal, expecting to see ship names and tonnages, but lo and behold!!!

I have ship names, tonnages, Cargo and Crew Information!

Needless to say I am very confused now...I have done nothing different except not modify my U-boat before a patrol (which I have done in the past with commander to make sure that wasn't the issue and it never solved the problem then) and I stayed at sea a little bit longer before returning to port. I also didn't set a number for my U-boat or change it after saving from first patrol and editing in Commander later. All other times I have used Commander I would edit my U-boat number before starting a new career. I am now very curious is this was the problem the whole time?!

I have no idea how this problem found its own solution. The system restore would having nothing to do with it, as neither would the removal of all SH3 and SH3 Commander folders because I have done that multiple times in the past as well.

Did the planets properly align?! :dead:

EDIT: In case any of you are scratching your heads as to why I ended my patrol due to fuel constraints, considering that fuel is really no issue: That's my way of dancing around having to say that the fiancee had dinner ready and I really needed to end the patrol for the sake of avoiding domestic violence charges that would surely have been pinned on her when the neighbors heard my blood curdling screams of horror as she beat me with my laptop...

[Jimbuna]

Pleased your sorted...SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Gargamel]

EDIT: In case any of you are scratching your heads as to why I ended my patrol due to fuel constraints, considering that fuel is really no issue: That's my way of dancing around having to say that the fiancee had dinner ready and I really needed to end the patrol for the sake of avoiding domestic violence charges that would surely have been pinned on her when the neighbors heard my blood curdling screams of horror as she beat me with my laptop...

I doubt it would be from the pain of the beating..... I would be screaming because as the speakers came by my head, I would keep hearing multiple "ship spotted!" , Finishing with a "Oh mY god Kaleun! It's an un-escorted convoy of all super tankers rigged to scuttle!!!" That would be my cries of despair the neighbor's heard.

Glad it's working for ya.

[reignofdeath]

Sorry to ressurect this old thread but Im having the same problem Jack Cutter was. just for clarification.

Yes, I use SH3 cmdr the right way with rollbacks, etc, etc.
Yes, I update the personal file after
Yes, I have SailorSteves ship names list.
Yes Cmdr is v3.2


So Im curious as to what to do because I really want to see what crew was lost and what not??