Windows 7 Installation

[Schwieger]

I finally found some time to get around to installing SH3 on my new system (old one was trashed just decided to get rid of it). As it would turn out I'm having some issues with installing it. I took a look at the Win7 installation thread but I'm not sure I understand quite what to do. I have Win7 64 bit and SH3 is installed at computer>OS(C:)>Program Files>Ubisoft>SH3

This is the error I get on startup:

This application can be launched with a release version of microsoft windows 95 osr2.1/98/me/nt4.0/2000/xp/server2003 only

[Gerald]

I have my installation in C / Program files (x86) and it works great,using self W7, 64-bit Ultimate

[SteveW1]

Does your version of SH3 have Starforce protection in it? if it does it will not work on Win7, and I would advise not to install to computer>OS(C:)>Program Files>Ubisoft>SH3 instead make a folder called games or whatever you want and install it to there eg C:>Games>Ubisoft>SH3.

Steve

[Mittelwaechter]

Do not install into 'C:\program files\Ubisoft...' but into 'C:\games\Ubisoft...' and you should be fine.
You can install the starforced version, but you must not install the protection drivers. You'll need the NoDVD files to make it work.

I have your setup (HomePremium) and SH3 works perfectly.

[Jimbuna]

Do not install into 'C:\program files\Ubisoft...' but into 'C:\games\Ubisoft...' and you should be fine.
You can install the starforced version, but you must not install the protection drivers. You'll need the NoDVD files to make it work.

I have your setup (HomePremium) and SH3 works perfectly.

As above :yep:

[papa_smurf]

I cheated and bought SH3 on Steam (for £5), made installation nice and easy.

[Tessa]

Only other issue that you might run into is memory, if you have more than 4 GB of memory you'll need to use the 4 GB patch once you get the game setup (apply it last). Since you're using the x64 version I would assume that you do (or use the machine for a lot of photoshop/autocad programs that can actually take full advantage of the OS).

[kroll688]

The suggestion to buy from Steam was what worked for me. I could not get my DVD from 2006 to work after many tries, using lessons from forums. It was worth the $10 to buy SHIII again, and the Grey Wolves super mod loaded perfect, now I am up and running on a new campaign on a new computer.

[Pisces]

Only other issue that you might run into is memory, if you have more than 4 GB of memory you'll need to use the 4 GB patch once you get the game setup (apply it last). Since you're using the x64 version I would assume that you do (or use the machine for a lot of photoshop/autocad programs that can actually take full advantage of the OS).Is that actually a game-breaker for SH3? Or just something that makes the game use less than there is, but still runs. I mean the problem, not the patch. Surely, more than 4 GB is not required for SH3 to run in a pleasing manner!

[Madox58]

I just ordered another Copy of SH3 through the SubSim link to Amazon.
Under $9.00!!
:rock:

As for the patch?
If useing Windows 7, 64 bit the 4 gig patch allows the SH3.exe to use more memory.
Other wise it still is limited to how much memory it can use.

Look at it this way.
A car will run OK on a 2 barrel carb right?
When you change that to a 4 barrel carb?
You get better performance.

Ummm.....
:hmmm:
Do you Guys still remember what a carb is?
:haha:

[Pisces]

...
Look at it this way.
A car will run OK on a 2 barrel carb right?
When you change that to a 4 barrel carb?
You get better performance.

Ummm.....
:hmmm:
Do you Guys still remember what a carb is?
:haha:I think I know what a carb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carburetor) is. What I'm not sure about is how 2 barrels, or even 4, fit into such a device!

http://www.envasesmurua.com/_img/proceso4.jpg

[Schwieger]

http://www.envasesmurua.com/_img/proceso4.jpg

I believe those are kegs, my friend :har:

[Tessa]

Is that actually a game-breaker for SH3? Or just something that makes the game use less than there is, but still runs. I mean the problem, not the patch. Surely, more than 4 GB is not required for SH3 to run in a pleasing manner!

Here I was just being pro-active in pointing out a known problem with Windows 7 installations and there is already a solution. If the machine fits into that category its one thing that needs to be done; was merely providing more information upfront so if he ran problems like K-61 did with his installation it wouldn't be a hair pulling event and would have the necessary for that potential problem.

[Pisces]

I believe those are kegs, my friend :har:Actually, they are both the same. I'm afraid both uses of the word are divided by the UK-US English language border. Also, imhe (in my humble experience, as a non-drinker ;) ) kegs seem to reffer more to metalic barrels. Anyway,

:()1:

[Pisces]

Here I was just being pro-active in pointing out a known problem with Windows 7 installations and there is already a solution. If the machine fits into that category its one thing that needs to be done; was merely providing more information upfront so if he ran problems like K-61 did with his installation it wouldn't be a hair pulling event and would have the necessary for that potential problem.Ok, I do such things all the time. Going out on a limb by suggesting solution without sufficient indications of their need or applicability. It sometimes helps speed up fixing the problem.

I guess objected to the suggestion that I see expressed in a lot of game forums that simply lack of memory is the cause of most problems. Especially if it regards to current pc's and games developed 5 to 10 years ago. I came into contact with computers and programming when 64 kilobyte was the end of adress-space (Z80 processor). Clever memory use seems to be an Art long gone these-days.

But after having searched a bit more about the issue you may have a point. It seems that 32-bit games in 64bit Vista and Windows 7 may crash for unapparent reasons, if they want to address more than 2GB of RAM. There might be more nuance to this though. I couldn't find in-depth information on it. I have only 4GB of ram in my Win7 64bit myself, of which 1GB s shared with the graphics adapter. So I'm unlikely to be victimized by it, and didn't give it much thought sofar. But I'll keep it under advisement next time I run a memory intensive program, and it crashes.

:up:

[Madox58]

I think I know what a carb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carburetor) is. What I'm not sure about is how 2 barrels, or even 4, fit into such a device!



2 Barrel carb.
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/2-barrels.jpg


4 barrel carb

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n12/privateer_2006/4-barrels.jpg

Barrel refers to the number of holes fuel and air are passed through.
Technical name is venturi

[Herr-Berbunch]

If you disable UAC then SH3 will load into default Prog Files without a hitch, but you'll still need to remove Starforce, and install no DVD patch.

If you've got teenage kids who use that PC though you'd probably best leave it enabled :D

Kids eh, who'd have 'em?

[Madox58]

Kids eh, who'd have 'em?

Depends on how they're cooked.
:haha: