Mass Effect 3 announced

[Task Force]

Mass Effect 3 has been announced for Q 4 2011. Set on, or partually on earth, the reapers decend on the galaxy, with the target of earth (or one of the targets)

the trailer.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/vga-10-mass-effect/708363
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/9997/desktop2010121120565753.jpg
I think they did much better with ME3s trailer.

[Task Force]

Damnit thought i was posting in general games, could a mod please move it there.

[SgtPotato]

Oberon will not be happy when he found out that the Reapers invading his country. :har:

[onelifecrisis]

Pants = creamed.

[Oberon]

Oberon will not be happy when he found out that the Reapers invading his country. :har:

Eh, we're used to it, Martians, Daleks, Cybermen, Triffids, Zombies, they've all popped up in London at some point. Just so long as the Reapers pay the congestion charge, they'll be fine. :yep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0womf-piQ

[aergistal]

The Reapers seem to like pointy things and now they're going for Big Ben :)

[ReFaN]

Cant wait :P

[Task Force]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/08/mass-effect-3-revenge-of-the-spoilers/
Some info, don't know how much truth there is to it, but its something!

[SgtPotato]

http://community.livejournal.com/masseffect/938886.html

Hi-res scans of Mass Effect 3 from Gameinformer. :arrgh!:

[Spike88]

Eh, we're used to it, Martians, Daleks, Cybermen, Triffids, Zombies, they've all popped up in London at some point. Just so long as the Reapers pay the congestion charge, they'll be fine. :yep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0womf-piQ
You forgot about the Chimera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1azn7bMKdvg

[Task Force]

Yay, pictures and stuff. Now, just to wait afiew more months...:shifty:

[Task Force]

And some new stuff, The making of Garrus, and there is some info on what Garrus will look like in Mass Effect 3.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/04/22/mass-effect-3-creating-garrus.aspx

[Task Force]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD4kZXDl0-k&feature=feedu
New E3 trailer

[Gerald]

Nice,:up:

[mookiemookie]

http://i.imgur.com/XKLRt.jpg

[Task Force]

LOL, so dats what dem qurians look like!

[HunterICX]

Extended Mass Effect 3 Demo footage at E3

Part I:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-extended-walkthrough/714902

Part II:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-mass-effect/714903

and some other footage regarding ME3:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-mass-effect/714872

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-mass-effect/714887

HunterICX

[Task Force]

Yep, though i wish they had shown more of the new RPG features, than ya know, a on rails DURRR IM'A SHOOTIN A CHAINGUN AT A REAPER! AND IT AIN'T DOIN ----!

[Arclight]

Less seizure-inducing trailers? Would never catch on. :O:

[Task Force]

Less seizure-inducing trailers? Would never catch on. :O:

Naa, not at E3.

[Task Force]

Oah, and i forgot to post this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBESnvjZGt8&feature=player_embedded#at=17

Mass effect live action trailer.

[Wolfehunter]

Gotta give EA credit for forking over some serious cash for that trailer.. Very well done. Damn :yeah: But It looks like there is missing video... I'm guessing when you buy the game the rest of those feeds will be shows at the game intro? :hmmm:

[Dowly]

From May '11

Mass Effect 3 tweaked for "larger market"

"One of the things that Ray Muzyuka and the team up in Edmonton have
done is essentially step-by-step adjust the gameplay mechanics and some of
the features that you'll see at E3 to put this in a genre equivalent to shooter-
meets-RPG," he said, "and essentially address a much larger market
opportunity than Mass Effect 1 and Mass Effect 2 began to approach.

"We're huge believers in the IP and are purposefully shifting it to address a
larger market opportunity."

Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-04-mass-effect-3-tweaked-for-larger-market)

:hmmm:

[Task Force]

AKA **** it up and make it like a CoD Rpg in 3rd person. yep

[Arclight]

What, so now instead of leveling we unlock perks? No doubt Origin will be required as well...

Don't get me wrong, I quite like Mass Effect, and 2 is arguably a bit more "cooperative" in terms of playing it, but taking out everything that makes it recognisable as an RPG (inventory for example) doesn't seem to be the way forward.


It's been succesfull, you've made millions, now just let people play a game without half the game stripped out of it. I mean, that decision turned out just splendid for Dragon Age 2... right? :shifty:

Is it just me, or does it sound like EA talking, rather than Bioware?

[HunterICX]

Is it just me, or does it sound like EA talking, rather than Bioware?

EA

however I do recall that they said they where going to extend the RPG elements in the 3th game quite some time ago.
I don't like the sound of ''tweaked for a larger audience'' but we'll have to see what they really mean with that.

however with EA I wouldn't be suprised if things go south.

HunterICX

[Arclight]

Exactly, "more RPG" and "bigger audience" doesn't mesh at all.

It sounds like a U-turn in focus, and given that they delayed it from late this year to early next year indicates they need tinkering time...

I dunno, guess we'll see. Suddenly not looking forward to it anymore though, EA really knows how to utterly screw up marketing and PR. It's quite impressive actually. :hmmm:

[Task Force]

Im thinking they're going to add in more shootie shootie, and explosions. turn down blood (if there is any.) Make sure everything is plain and clear and pointed out so little Billy's mind does not get stuck in a constant loop because he had to think.

[Arclight]

Ah, there we go: http://www.vg247.com/2011/09/02/super-effective-hands-on-with-mass-effect-3/

So heavier on the RPG than ME2 but also closer to GoW in terms of gameplay. Makes sense I guess.

[Dowly]

9 Things Mass Effect 3 Needs to Have!
http://www.cheatcc.com/extra/ninethingsmasseffect3needstohave.html#.TmiyKeznmnA

Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 were great games, combining third-
person shooting action with RPG character progression and a movie-worthy
sci-fi plot. So, what can Mass Effect 3 do even better?

Here are the top nine things I'd like to see.


I tend to agree. :yep:

[Task Force]

I just went them to not make the game corny... with stupid characters that try to be bad asses, and everything exploding in a stupid fashion.

[Arclight]

Multiplayer confirmed: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/10/10/mass-effect-3-gets-massier-with-multiplayer/

Er, might be nice...

[Task Force]

Yea, Bioware are horrible lairs...

[Arclight]

Detailed: http://www.vg247.com/2011/10/11/bioware-details-mass-effect-3s-galaxy-at-war-system/

That sounds pretty good. Not just some half-arsed versus mode tacked on for the sake of it.

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWaANoSZSzE&feature=player_embedded

[Dowly]

http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x462/Dowly/mass_effect3.jpg

:DL

[Task Force]

Something tells me hes afraid the TPS/FPS group might figure out there is a ME 1 before ME2 and play it and say "OMG THIS GAME SUX Bad graphics and stuff, im not getting 3!!!!" and there goes their target audience. :P (still think 1 was the best IMO)

[Arclight]

It's truly amazing how much nonsense is churned out by marketing. :yep:

[Task Force]

It's truly amazing how much nonsense is churned out by marketing. :yep:

Well Bioware is being EAatized what do you expect.

[HunterICX]

It's truly amazing how much nonsense is churned out by marketing. :yep:

Well you know EA....they're good at marketing especially when the product is about to release they have this devil jumping out of the box.

HunterICX

[Spike88]

Has Commander Shephered branched off into other games? :hmmm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpYLQZjkEk&feature=player_detailpage#t=102s

[Task Force]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBktyyaV9LY&feature=channel
The extended Take back earth trailer, Thought the one they aired during the Walking dead felt short.

[Dowly]

Why I think Bioware has gone too far with Mass Effect 3 (by Totalbiscuit):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM

[Task Force]

http://www.irishjobs.ie/Logos/BioWare-Ireland-Ltd-A-Divison-5493.gif

[Hottentot]

Why I think Bioware has gone too far with Mass Effect 3 (by Totalbiscuit):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM

Wow. I can't believe I just listened to 24 minutes of soapboxing that basically had only one point, but that was just...true. A rare case of good ranting. :up:

[Arclight]

Aaand that killed it. Perhaps the inevitable GOTY edition will be a fair deal. :shifty:

[Drewcifer]

My heart hurts... I used to love Bioware and Mass Effect was brilliant but oh so long ago that was, pre- ea era.

[HunterICX]

It's a shame but to be expected and for me doesn't come at a suprise at all.
it's typical of EA to grind any title the community loves into a miserable state where it's more of a product overcomercialized then something the community and fanbase deserved.

HunterICX

[Task Force]

From what im reading your probably not gonna miss out on much, the day 1 dlc is just a Prothean squad mate, with a funny voice, and every other DLC is just promotional.
Really, if it interest someone so much I would just watch a play though of it on you tube, as IMO if it doesn't add another few hours of major plot, it isn't worth 10 USD. IIRC they changed theyre minds on the dlc awhile back that it will be paid DLC.
In the end this Prothean is just like Zaeed with more story tacked on and from what im reading is not in any way going to make you miss out from any Non DLC story.

Thing is TotalBiscuit gets on about the stuff they're selling but you gotta remember, its the end of the series. They will like every other company try to milk it to a end. Though his point about the FOV is true.

[HunterICX]

In the end this Prothean is just like Zaeed with abit more story tacked on.

Just like Zaeed....
first of all Zaeed was Free
Second Zaeed was indeed just a extra side mission and a character with witty remarks all the time.

The prothean is I would suspect something different since the base of the damn plot of the serie is based on them. So I doubt he's just a witty side character with remarks or one liners that comes packed with a crappy side mission.

if you've actually watched the video it isn't about the content but the fact it's just so unethical of cheating people on something that is plot related just because they didn't went for the Super deluxe EA ass kissing aproved edition.

HunterICX

[Task Force]

It's a shame but to be expected and for me doesn't come at a suprise at all.
it's typical of EA to grind any title the community loves into a miserable state where it's more of a product overcomercialized then something the community and fanbase deserved.

HunterICX

Sad thing is that Company's don't care about what you think, what I think and what everyone else think, they want money, and they get money though marketing things people want for extra money. As some people are stupid enough to pay extra money for a bunch of cheep trinkits and a DLC.

[Dowly]

From what im reading your probably not gonna miss out on much, the day 1 dlc is just a Prothean squad mate, with a funny voice...

Well, it is kind of a big deal to have a Prothean suddenly pop up when the whole
damn race was completely wiped out over 50 000 years ago. :O:

It's going to explain a big part of the lore and should have been included in the stock game, not as a day-one DLC. :shifty:

[Task Force]

Just like Zaeed....
first of all Zaeed was Free
Second Zaeed was indeed just a extra side mission and a character with witty remarks all the time.

The prothean is I would suspect something different since the base of the damn plot of the serie is based on them. So I doubt he's just a witty side character with remarks or one liners that comes packed with a crappy side mission.

if you've actually watched the video it isn't about the content but the fact it's just so unethical of cheating people on something that is plot related just because they didn't went for the Super deluxe EA ass kissing aproved edition.

HunterICX

Well Indeed it is wrong, but in the end I don't see myself missing out on a DLC that is non essential. Sadly I can foresee this is the rising new trend to get people to buy the deluxe editions of games, that works with most.

The comments in the post you referred to Is my thoughs the fact that I do not believe that without the content you will miss out on much, though I may have not stressed that these are my thoughts on the situation and stated it as a general comment.

EAs stunt with this isn't surprising by far, looking at the they're handiwork in the past.

Dont take my post as me being in EA's corner on this, as I am already not getting the game due to origin (unless I just decide to deal with it), and the fact that this isnt a Free DLC is annoying, but i feel that It will not be essential to the game and not getting it wont make you miss on anything truly important to the plot, therefore isnt a issue with me as I believe the prothean plot ended after mass effect one.

[Drewcifer]

Sad thing is that Company's don't care about what you think, what I think and what everyone else think, they want money, and they get money though marketing things people want for extra money. As some people are stupid enough to pay extra money for a bunch of cheep trinkits and a DLC.

Your right. RIGHT now they will get the money, they will cash in. However down the road they have officially screwed themselves. I will never buy another Bioware title again.

I feel like I can forgive alot, buggy released too soon abortions that need 10 patches post release to get in shape, DLC that probably SHOULD have been in the game to begin with, OVER hype and buying into a less then stellar game.

The list goes on and I think the majority of gamers are very forgiving, I even let Madden and NCAA games milk me for like ten years... updating every new year with a single new feature and slightly better graphics.

However EA has always made it clear it is the King Pin Monster of the Industry and when the aquired a very very VERY talented developer in Bioware I thought maybe MAYBE they will put up the money and stay hands off and now we will see some SERIOUS masterpiece games. Nope they strong armed Bioware and run the show just like everything they touch.

Nope for me I will be loyal to the smaller developers but that said I am loyal to some of the big guys too but that because they don't completely and blatantly spit in my face. Blizzard, Betheseda, Paradox, etc. I also like the company that does the Arma games.. but I think they are still fairly small right? Not really talking big budget on a level with the previous I mentioned. Also Paradox is rather low on the chain but I feel like in years they have proved they get a seat at the big kids table.

[Task Force]

You may not, and I sure am not, but there are a lot of sheep out there. Who will forget, and just buy whatever they get thrown at them.

After ME3 I personally can see EA starting to EAt up bioware. IMO bioware will be the new westwood (almost funny since theyre doing a command & conquer title.)

I don't personally like the direction they have dragged mass effect, and REALLY want mass effect do die out after three so they don't drag it into the mud more.

In the end im really hoping they do screw themselves for the future.

After looking at it abit, you get ripped off more with the digital deluxe edition, 80 dollars for just some crappy DLC and a digital art book (oddly enough it lacks appear to have the DLC), whilst the normal game costs 60 dollars. And Looking at the Us retailers it appears the collectors edition does not have it either, or at-least no one has it listed.

And from gamestop.
Mass Effect 3 Collector's Edition




Premium metal case featuring male and female Commander Shepard
70-page hardbound art book
Limited edition Mass Effect comic by Dark Horse Comics
Fabric N7 patch.
Exclusive 4x6 lithographic print of the SR-2 Alliance Normandy
Additional in-game content including(referring to the below)
N7 Arsenal Pack - Bring the firepower with the N7 Sniper Rifle, Shotgun, SMG, and Pistol.
Squad alternate appearance pack
Robotic Dog for on board the Normandy
Mass Effect 3 digital soundtrack.

No where in this 80 USD version of the game does it say you get the DLC for free (Unless it is unlisted, though I do remember reading somewhere before day one DLC (think it was on origin, but it has been removed from both versions). so in the end if this is correct you actually save money by just buying the normal game, and getting the DLC separate (though it still should be free) or waiting and getting it on at a reduced price later, or whilst its on sale whenever they do that.

[Drewcifer]

lol, the story might die out but do you HONESTLY think they will let the franchise sit and collect dust?

Not chance. "Mass Effect Wars" a brillant new RTS that involves intense resource management and army building!

"Mass Effect Versus" A fully online battle Arena in which you pit your character against your friends in a battle Royal!!

"Mass Effect And Mario and Sonic Olympic games 6"

[NeonSamurai]

Personally I have to say I am rapidly getting to the point of just boycotting most major games now. I am getting really sick and tired of the gaming industry trying to nickel and dime me to death. DLC as a basic concept is not a bad idea, if it is like a mini expansion, but I am getting the strong feeling with a lot of recent games that this was content purposely cut from the main game to be sold as DLC. Then there are all the special edition nonsense, the final editions, and the ungodly DRM that seems to be purpose built to cause the most grief to legitimate users.

This episode of Jimquisition is somewhat on point (he is complaining more about all the different editions and stuff)
WARNING THIS CLIP IS FULL OF SWEARING
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5233-Limited-Collectors-Complete-Edition


Thing is TotalBiscuit gets on about the stuff they're selling but you gotta remember, its the end of the series. They will like every other company try to milk it to a end. Though his point about the FOV is true.

No offense mate, but this almost made me choke on my drink. This is EA... do you really think they are just going to stop making mass effect games? EA rivals Lucasarts and Ubisoft for milking a license to death and well beyond (particularly if you include EA Sports, the king of title milking). 10 to 1 odds that if they don't make a 4th one (or make ME3 a 2 or 3 parter), that they will make spinoffs in the universe.

[Task Force]

No offense mate, but this almost made me choke on my drink. This is EA... do you really think they are just going to stop making mass effect games? EA rivals Lucasarts and Ubisoft for milking a license to death and well beyond (particularly if you include EA Sports, the king of title milking). 10 to 1 odds that if they don't make a 4th one (or make ME3 a 2 or 3 parter), that they will make spinoffs in the universe.

Trust me, I know this, Looking back on that post I can think of ways I could reword it as I now remember someone mentioning something from biowares twitter that you should keep your mass effect 3 saves... I think I see whats going to happen (another game or some DLCS). Though they are publicly marketing it as the end of the series and that's what alot of people probably believe.

*edited, just remembered something.

[Oberon]

Maybe it's my old age, or the earliness of the day but I have to chuckle at the people who right now are saying "Well, that's it, I'm not going to buy Mass Effect 3, no way, no how."
It reminds me of the 'Boycott Call of Duty 2' movement.

Let me demonstrate how that turned out:

http://www.aeropause.com/wordpress/archives/images/2009/11/12580353958411.jpg

People are going to buy this game in droves, some because they want to see what the storyline is going to be about, some because they want to have the latest thing of anything, and enough people will buy this to convince EA to pump Bioware to make another and another. Heck, there's probably another Dragon Age sitting on a HD in Bioware waiting to hit the conveyor belt to marketing.
I will probably buy Mass Effect 3...once I've gotten through 1 and 2 first (yeah, I know, I'm bloody slow) but it won't be at launch. In fact it probably won't be for another three to four years, when there'll be a good deal on some GOTY edition or something once they've gotten the DLC fest out of their system.
This is, unfortunately, the downside to DLC, it encourages developer/publisher greed because of its ease to use. Once upon a time such things were either put in patches or made into expansions which were boxed. Of course, that was back in the day of 56k when patches were large when they were over 100MB.

[Arclight]

Can't speak for others, but I won't touch it untill they offer a fair deal. Not denying I will get it at some point though, just not as it is offered now.

[HunterICX]

Can't speak for others, but I won't touch it untill they offer a fair deal. Not denying I will get it at some point though, just not as it is offered now.

Same but another criteria for me is that it's without Origin. (doubt that is going to happen so...bugger me)

HunterICX

[Spike88]

Nope for me I will be loyal to the smaller developers but that said I am loyal to some of the big guys too but that because they don't completely and blatantly spit in my face. Blizzard, Betheseda, Paradox, etc. I also like the company that does the Arma games.. but I think they are still fairly small right? Not really talking big budget on a level with the previous I mentioned. Also Paradox is rather low on the chain but I feel like in years they have proved they get a seat at the big kids table.

Blizzard, the company this is still charging $60 dollars for Starcraft 2? Blizzard which is now owned by Activision? :O:

Bethesda also has it's tendency to spit in fans faces, but only the fans who own the PS3 versions of their games.

Paradox, Bohemia Interactive, Naughty Dog, and Rockstar are the only ones that I feel deserve 100% of their profits.

[Arclight]

I can deal with Origin... sort of. I mean, for this one game I don't mind, it's just never going to reach that "always-on" status Steam has on my end.

Thankfully they've revised their ToS, seems standard fare now. Previously it mentioned they reserved the right to effectively delete your account after a period of inactivity. Wouldn't want to find my account deleted if 5 years down the line I feel like playing ME trilogy again.
Bethesda also has it's tendency to spit in fans faces, but only the fans who own the PS3 versions of their games.
Or maybe it's just Sony (and Microsoft) with their ridiculous demands when it comes to releasing anything on their platforms.

[Task Force]

I personally will probably just watch a lets play of it and leave it at that. I don't support origin, I don't support (even though I did argue about the fact that the DLC isn't important for the story) the way they will probably do DLC, and I don't support the butchering to the lore, characters,and storyline that they have done. Like that cheap attempt at drawing drama to the game with the child...

[Spike88]

Or maybe it's just Sony (and Microsoft) with their ridiculous demands when it comes to releasing anything on their platforms.

Or maybe it's just the fact that Sony doesn't want to pay the extra money for their DLC, so they figure why put in the extra effort to give us a game that's not a sh**y Xbox port. Considering the PS3 is just as strong or stronger than the 360, yet the 360 doesn't have any problems.

Bethesda knew from the start that the PS3 version would have memory issues. :shifty:

[Arclight]

Or maybe it's just the fact that Sony doesn't want to pay the extra money for their DLC, so they figure why put in the extra effort to give us a game that's not a sh**y Xbox port. Considering the PS3 is just as strong or stronger than the 360, yet the 360 doesn't have any problems.

Bethesda knew from the start that the PS3 version would have memory issues. :shifty:
Wait... Sony pay Beth money for their DLC? As far as I know it's the other way around: Bethesda has to pay Sony a fair sum to get them to aprove something for release.

But yeah, PS3 usually draws the short straw. It's just too expensive to develop for, so it always ends up a bit short on TLC.

[Spike88]

Wait... Sony pay Beth money for their DLC? As far as I know it's the other way around: Bethesda has to pay Sony a fair sum to get them to aprove something for release.

But yeah, PS3 usually draws the short straw. It's just too expensive to develop for, so it always ends up a bit short on TLC.

The reason the 360 get's the DLC before the PS3(Or the PC for that matter) is because Microsoft pays money for the timed exclusive.

For for being too expensive, I highly doubt that is the case. I still think it's just because it's easier to code for the 360, and developers don't care enough to put in the extra effort.

[Arclight]

The reason the 360 get's the DLC before the PS3(Or the PC for that matter) is because Microsoft pays money for the timed exclusive.

For for being too expensive, I highly doubt that is the case. I still think it's just because it's easier to code for the 360, and developers don't care enough to put in the extra effort.
Ah, yeah they'll pay a bit for exclusivity, but generally it's the developer that pays the platform owners.

And you just made my point on the second thing: extra effort means more time, which costs money. :O:

[Spike88]

Ah, yeah they'll pay a bit for exclusivity, but generally it's the developer that pays the platform owners.

And you just made my point on the second thing: extra effort means more time, which costs money. :O:


But it doesn't require that much extra time or money. Which goes back to them pissing on the fans.

[Task Force]

Pissing off fans appears to be a Developers favorite past time these days.

[Dowly]

This episode of Jimquisition is somewhat on point (he is complaining more about all the different editions and stuff)
WARNING THIS CLIP IS FULL OF SWEARING
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/5233-Limited-Collectors-Complete-Edition

Wasn't aware of his videos, good stuff. Thanks. :salute:

[Drewcifer]

Blizzard, the company this is still charging $60 dollars for Starcraft 2? Blizzard which is now owned by Activision? :O:

Bethesda also has it's tendency to spit in fans faces, but only the fans who own the PS3 versions of their games.

Paradox, Bohemia Interactive, Naughty Dog, and Rockstar are the only ones that I feel deserve 100% of their profits.

Ok so you agree with the majority of my list.

Yes Blizzard is still a company I will buy from, yes Starcraft is still 60 dollars. I have no problem with that. Blizzard releases QUALITY games. Flat out, I'm not a WOW fan boy, I don't really care for WOW but not for a lack of quality its just not my thing. Diablo, Starcraft, Warcraft these are always a standard of quality and what the rest of the market should do in the genre argue if you want but its just a fact.

Betheseda being spitting in the face of ps3 users? nope. I am not going to hold them liable for a buggy release which the PC version was as well, they all were. Games that big will always have problems post launch. The fact is the ps3 is way to complicated to develop for sony shot themselves in the foot.

I own a ps3, I play Uncharted, Metal Gear, etc. However I can't be upset over the fact Sony designed a machine that is a complication to make games for. The ps2 did so well because it was the simple standard of video games at the time, sony tried to one up and be top dog and lost this generation of consoles to the xbox which is weaker, and the red ring didnt' please anybody but it has the better selection of games and all multi platform games play better on xbox.

[Dowly]

Blizzard releases QUALITY games.

Yes, they do. But look at the timeline. How many big games has Blizzard released
after WoW came out? Answer would be one: Starcraft 2

SC2 is more of an expansion to SC1 imho. 90% of those who bought the game
don't care about the singleplayer campaign and only want the online portion, which
is quite similar to SC1, just with few new units and new graphics.

Now, Heart of the Swarm is coming out that will no doubt be overpriced and
what it adds to the 90% of SCII players? Few new units, some of which were
already available in SCII's Skirmish mode but not in online. :doh:

Blizzard's IMHO the worst bloodsucker in the gaming industry. :nope:

[Task Force]

According to a person in the Bioware staff on the Bioware forums (Michael Gamble) This is some information on this DLC.

and I quote from the forums.

As most of you know, yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC ***8220;ME3:From Ashes***8221; on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make an announcement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday).

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things...

- ***8220;From Ashes***8221; includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase). Mass Effect 3 is a complete ***8211; and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in ***8220;From Ashes***8221; was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to make this content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Prothean into their game.

We***8217;ll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike



I can almost say for certain that a good portion of the money this will cost you is for the appearance packs for ME2 a appearance pack for three charachters cost you two dollars. Lets say there are six charachters, so thats four dollars if it goes by that logic, in total that equals the prothean DLC to six dollars, Arrival (6.99 USD) was around a hour long if you played it normal. So the fact they are even charging ten dollars for you to have funny clothes and a short DLC is crazy.

* why i referenced the lenght of Arrival was because these DLCs tend to be a lenght similar to they're predecessors.

[Drewcifer]

Yes, they do. But look at the timeline. How many big games has Blizzard released
after WoW came out? Answer would be one: Starcraft 2

They don't need to force out half baked games.

WOW is till rolling expansions and making a surplus of money.

Diablo is a game that has spawned clones because of its masterpiece since it was first made, and fact is Diablo 3 will net them a fortune.

Yes Starcraft... they broke it up into three full games forcing you to buy these games to get the single player story of each race and to add a couple extra units. Some may say WHOA that is worse then EA!!! I disagree though the single player is alot more detailed then previous starcraft. Sure paying full price seems abit out there I don't really think its completely fair to pump these 'expansions' as full games but again I think its a personal feeling. I don't feel like I just got mugged in a dark ally by blizzard I like the product I get even if it is pricey.

EA on the other hand just makes me feel dirty and cheap after I buy a game. They used me and we both know they aren't going to call. Blizzard might hit me, but its only because it loves me. haha.

[Dowly]

They don't need to force out half baked games.

No they don't, and that's solely because of WoW. How much of WoW is actually
something Blizzard came up with exactly? And I'm not talking about the whole
Warhammer vs. Warcraft stuff, but in general? I've heard of a lot of high ranking
players quitting and saying it's not fun anymore and Blizzard is just pulling out ideas
from other sources (point in case: the martial arts pandas, Kung-fu Panda much?).

Diablo 3 will give a real indication just how good Blizzard really is. :03:

[Drewcifer]

I can't really logically argue with you Dowly about WOW content. I openly admit I have no love for WOW, I've played to like level 20 on one character, it was a chore for me to stay interested even that long. I just don't like that type of game.

As for Soley because of WOW I can argue. Before Wow Blizzard was doing just fine. Diablo, Warcraft, Starcraft, Diablo 2, Warcraft 2... obviously they really only have the three franchises but they have always been released WHEN THEY ARE READY and not FOR THE MONEY.

You'd be hard pressed to find a condition in which a Blizzard game had to be patched to playable as you would with just about anybody else and their games.

+edit also Blizzard made a really great platform game Called Vikings for Sega.. I loved that game. Very good.

[HunterICX]

(point in case: the martial arts pandas, Kung-fu Panda much?).

Bad point mate :03:

the Martial Arts Pandaren where already back in the day of Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne (2003) in the form of a special Hero called the Pandaren Brewmaster so it has nothing to do with the Kung-Fu Panda flick.

not that I defend WoW in any way here....it can still jump of a cliff.

HunterICX

[Dowly]

Bad point mate :03:

Rgr that. A fly would know more about Warcraft lore than I do. :O:

+edit also Blizzard made a really great platform game Called Vikings for Sega.. I loved that game. Very good.

Hah, I remember that. :DL

[Spike88]

snip.

From a non-Blizzard fan's point of view, paying $60 for a PC game is blasphemy(that's why I haven't purchased any Activision games).

After being out for a year, the fact that the game still costs $60 is unheard of, especially with the fact that at no point have they thrown it on sale for a day or two. I also don't like the "BE ONLINE TO PLAY SKIRMISHES" aspect.

In regards to Bethesda, it's not like this is their first PS3 game, and if they really cared they would've tried to push out 1.4 faster. On top of that, putting in a little effort would be made back with the sales they've earned from PS3 users.



In other news, you can pre-order the full game of ME3 on the PS3, and receive the game day one. On top of that you get the M5 ARGUS gun, and a PS3 theme as a bonus. While I wasn't planning on buying the game(and definately not the ps3 version after having my save files on PC) this is, as far as I know, the first time you could pre-order a game on a console.

Also, unless you can find it elsewhere for a discount, it's the cheapest way to get the game, as the PSN doesn't charge sales tax.

[Task Force]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUiEWEtiyLo&feature=channel

Some lines ripped from the Demo on Sur kesh. Glad the Krogan are still Krogan!

[Arclight]

EA Pulling Mass Effect 3 From GAME (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/29/ea-pulling-mass-effect-3-from-game/)


According to reports, both GAME and Gamestation will not be stocking new games from EA until further notice, with snow-boarding title SSX being the last until whatever problems have arisen are sorted out.

[Task Force]

And, some video of the Atlas Mech!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIl2J1S255g

Still not better than mechwarrior!

[Drewcifer]

EA Pulling Mass Effect 3 From GAME (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/29/ea-pulling-mass-effect-3-from-game/)

And soon you will only be able to buy EA games from Origin or Origin Store near you.... after they pull their games from all the game shops and bankrupt them and repurchase them as Origin Game stores.

[Task Force]

And then EA will hopefully fail.

[Drewcifer]

No, then the true takeover begins, EADonalds, Bank of EA, Mall of EA, United States of EA.

[Arclight]

EADonalds? They'll charge you $10,- to enter the restaurant, a hamburger will cost $25,- and the onion-expansion will be another $5,-.

[Drewcifer]

EADonalds? They'll charge you $10,- to enter the restaurant, a hamburger will cost $25,- and the onion-expansion will be another $5,-.

Haha.. no the they will give you a bun, sell you the burger for initial DLC, then you have to take the burger home and put in the fridge and wait for the onion DLC to come out next month.

EA is in heaven right now, DLC has made them fall in love with the industry all over again, they just piece meal every game out and sell it to us at full price its beautiful.

Imagine going to buy a new car and they sell you the frame, the body, the engine. lol.

[Arclight]

By any chance, did you see anything about how much you would have to spend to get everything ME3 related? It's a pretty big number:

...

$870/£550/€650. Whaaaat.

It must, however, be pointed out that much of that horror-price stems from having to buy bonus code-sporting hardware such as special gamepads, keyboards and headsets, or Mass Effect 3 merch such as multiple action figures and iPhone cases.

And most of what it gets you in-game is just weapon variations, skins and multiplayer unlocks, rather than ‘real’ content. Not stuff you’ll actually need, in other words, depending on how much you care about being King Big Balls in multiplayer. ...

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/02/27/all-the-mass-effect-3-dlc-costs-how-much/

[Drewcifer]

What a joke.

Wait until they announce you have to be at a certain Multplayer level before you can progress thru each chapter in Single-player.

[Task Force]

Yea, Ea is really pushing the DLC/Merchandise out... Id hate to think there is a person dumb enough to buy it all.

[HunterICX]

Yea, Ea is really pushing the DLC/Merchandise out... Id hate to think there is a person dumb enough to buy it all.

I dont think they're dumb but just have a bad habbit of beeing a completionist.

HunterICX

[Dowly]

ME3's main story 15-20 hours says a german review.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/337446/mass-effect-3-is-40-hours-long-has-definitive-ending/

[Task Force]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV3QsV69Yls

Oh look, the OTS!

[Arclight]

Wot I Think: Mass Effect 3 (Single Player) (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/03/06/mass-effect-3-review-pc/)

Aparently it's rather good.

[HunterICX]

Aparently it's rather good.

That's good to hear,

I still wait before getting it eventually, have plenty of games for a while to enjoy myself with that I've bough recently.

HunterICX

[Arclight]

Same. I'd like to complete the story, but what's on offer right now isn't appealing. There's plenty of other things that are.

[0rpheus]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/06/mass-effect-3-war-assets-and-readiness-how-multiplayer-affects-your-ending/

No story spoilers in above link. Forced MP (with grind/microtransactions) to get a decent ending?

Boooooo Ea/Bioware. Boooo indeed. :down:

[mookiemookie]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/03/06/mass-effect-3-war-assets-and-readiness-how-multiplayer-affects-your-ending/

No story spoilers in above link. Forced MP (with grind/microtransactions) to get a decent ending?

Boooooo Ea/Bioware. Boooo indeed. :down:

You've got to be friggin kidding me. I hate multiplayer. I despise multiplayer. I won't play it, not in a box, not with a fox. What a stupid decision.

The more I hear about this game, the less likely I am to play it.

[0rpheus]

Well from reading it again it's not quite 'forced'... seems in order to get the not terrible ending, you have to do absolutely everything and have done almost everything right in the previous games - all the grindy minigames etc.

Trouble is most people won't, which pushes them towards the MP, where they can 'make up the difference' by playing the right maps. But the MP encourages microtransactions/grind, in order to line EAs pocket, much like the myriad day one DLC.

It's just a bit galling to see a company go money-grabbing quite so blatantly. I'll probably pick it up - I do want to see how it all ends etc - but only on xbox (sod Origin), and only when it's gone 'GOTY' with all DLC later in the year/next.

[Spike88]

You've got to be friggin kidding me. I hate multiplayer. I despise multiplayer. I won't play it, not in a box, not with a fox. What a stupid decision.

The more I hear about this game, the less likely I am to play it.

What about in a house? What about with a mouse?




This forced MP thing sounds stupid, I hope there are developer cheats.

[Task Force]

From what Ive seen so far, the central game play of the game is ok. but IMO the beginning and endings are kinda corny.

[darius359au]

A clarification on the whole forced multiplayer thing from Bioware
http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9665384

[Spike88]

I always love how Bioware has a Canadian flag next to it's "English" button. Because Canada is such a major player in terms of the English Language. :haha:

[seaniam81]

I always love how Bioware has a Canadian flag next to it's "English" button. Because Canada is such a major player in terms of the English Language. :haha:
You bet it is! Would you rather see a american flag next to the english button?

[Gato76]

New game feature for ME3,you cant holster your weapons,meaning you loose the wider fov and the freecam around Shepard ,very usefull for exploration,so in combat zones you always have ur weapons draw and a very narrow fov its an annoyance.Hopefully they will patch it.

[Spike88]

You bet it is! Would you rather see a american flag next to the english button?

I'd prefer the English flag, as they invented it. :O:

The American flag would make more sense than the Canadian flag if they couldn't do the British one. Bigger population of English Speakers and half out population isn't French. Which is another reason the Canadian flag isn't the best to use.

You don't see a Southern or Central American Country flag next to Spanish.

[Task Force]

I'd prefer the English flag as they invented it. :O:

The American flag would make more sense than the Canadian flag if they couldn't do the British one. Bigger population of English Speakers and half out population isn't French. Which is another reason the Canadian flag doesn't make sense.

And the fact that Canada is just Americas hat!:D

[Dowly]

Maybe the flag is due to Bioware being a Canadian company.

Doesn't make much more sense, still. :O:

[Spike88]

And the fact that Canada is just Americas hat!:D

I wasn't going to go there.:haha: You could also say Canada was founded so the British could piss America.

[Highbury]

Maybe the flag is due to Bioware being a Canadian company.

You can tell by Alliance HQ being in Vancouver lol. I must say though, it is nice to see my home town get pasted for a change (even a very futuristic one). New York and LA have been done so many times :O:

[Spike88]

I believe Human Revelations had a mission in Vancouver.

[Dowly]

Human Revolution and Montreal, I believe. :O:

[Spike88]

Human Revolution and Montreal, I believe. :O:

Im in my iPhone, so I'm blaming auto correct and small text. Although I do think it was Montreal now.

[Task Force]

After watching most of the game on the internets, and the endings, I actually kind of like the endings. Though I hate how loose they ended the final scene. guess that's to lead way to more dlc...

[Dowly]

Yahtzee:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5497-Mass-Effect-3