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Nisgeis
12-11-10, 03:58 PM
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/292/771/Photos_stored_in_camera_for_68_years_-_Pearl_Harbour_Bombing.html

Some of the comments say it's a hoax (that the photos were undeveloped), but I've not seen these pics before, so even if it is a hoax, it's still interesting.

Sailor Steve
12-11-10, 04:07 PM
It's been posted before, and it's BS. Most of those photos have been available since they were taken, are in books galore, and are readily available on the internet.

Have a look here:
http://www.google.com/images?q=pearl+harbor+photos&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=YegDTY6IA8vwngeX-OnlDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQsAQwAA&biw=1419&bih=699

Even better - here are some that have been in the National Archives since 1941. Recognize any of them?
http://www.google.com/images?q=pearl+harbor+photos&hl=en&num=10&lr=&cr=&safe=images&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=YegDTY6IA8vwngeX-OnlDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCoQsAQwAA&biw=1419&bih=699

And... THESE PHOTOS ARE FROM A SAILOR WHO WAS ON THE USS QUAPAW ATF-11O.
USS Quapaw was launched in 1943, almost two years after the attack.
http://www.ussquapaw.com/history.cfm

Nisgeis
12-11-10, 04:16 PM
Curse you internet, you win again. When General Umbongo sends me that $34 million he's promised me in that email for helping him with his banking issues, I'll clean up the web for sure. Still, I'd not seen the pics before.

I did read elsewhere though that some of the famous 'photographs' are actually stills from cine film, which explains how they were taken at exactly the right point. But what's more interesting is that the cine films used to illustrate the event were in colour. It's just that everyone grew up seeing the B&W (cheaper) reproduction images that people have an expectation that they were B&W originally, so no one thought to find the originals when colour became more prevalent. As time goes on and more of this stuff comes out of private archives, we have a greater picture of events.

Sailor Steve
12-11-10, 04:22 PM
Oh, I agree completely. There are photographs in private collections that still haven't seen the light of day. I was just looking through my own childhood pictures, and it got me thinking about all the pics taken over the decades. Most of them, like mine, are of no historical significance whatever, but there must still be some depicting events which should be remembered.

Armistead
12-12-10, 04:50 AM
I bought a box lot at a tag sale for $50 20 years or so ago that had 6 photo albums in it from the 1800's to around 1940. Lot's of silver nitrates and tin types. Finally figured the family in it, Most likely the man was a Great Lakes Captain in his older age, but there were a few younger ones of him in the Civil War, pictures of the White House with officers, many civil war era ships, pics of Harpers Ferry, Gettysburg, ect. Another gets more into WW1, but I assume by the next generation, you can almost watch the kids grow as the adults get older and not in the newer ones.

Also several pictures of warships, WW1 types in some harbor. Probably covered the family history for two generations. The family obviously traveled all over the US anyway and took lots of pictures. Sure wish I could figure out some of the old sail rigged boats.

Sailor Steve
12-12-10, 10:32 AM
WOW! :o That's awesome!

First you need to figure out how to get them on your computer. Next you need to have them appraised - they might actually be worth something. Then you need to figure out who to talk to about their historical significance. Finally you need to share a link, to see if anybody can identify them.

Cool stuff!

Armistead
12-12-10, 12:20 PM
Haven't pulled them out in a couple years. I did take pictures of many of them with a camera and put them on a few forums years ago. The main ship in probably the second oldest album has been refurbished and a landmark today.

Some have value, others not so much. I was offered 10K some years ago, but figured if someone would pay that, worth more. I don't want to break pictures out. I tried hard to find the family since I had the Captains name of one of great lake ships, but no luck..

Pictures not on this PC, but I'll take some and put them up. A few overlooking a harbor full of sailed warships is pretty cool. Lot's of pictures of schooners, old yachts, ect..

I like the one of a bunch of officers in uniform standing in front of the white house and you can see some horse carriages.

The main ship with the Captain is the SS San Juniata, other pictues around 1900 of Emma Giles.

Had a few, post more later.
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/012.jpg

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/015.jpg

WernherVonTrapp
12-13-10, 08:22 AM
A simple scanner will do nicely in getting good quality copies onto your HD. I have two that I use including a very compact, portable scanner that scans only 4X6 photos. The ship in the first pic looks awesome.:yep: It's hard to tell but, is that an old ironside?

Armistead
12-13-10, 08:59 AM
I don't wont to scan them, was told bright ligth could mess up the silver nitrate. If you use a camera, works good to show. Course they're stored correctly now.

I use to have pictures on my PC of them all, but had to do a format a year ago. I think the one on the top left of the page is Harpers Ferry as I have others of it with a better view. Wife has many on her PC, I'll post some of other ships later. Actually the ones I was told that had the most value were the ones with African Americans in them, but seems to be the help for the northern family. The strange thing the oldest album has tin types of soldiers in confederate uniform, just two, but strange..because the rest of the pictures are north related. Most of the pictures are around 1900 of this Captains family, home and travels. He worked on the great lakes probably 1870's and later life Baltimore.

The ships I'm told at the top were in Baltimore Harbor based on other views, I'm not really sure.

Admiral Von Gerlach
12-19-10, 08:56 PM
wonderful pics, can you share some more? i am very very intersested,..my grandfather was in the navy US in the early 1900s and i have many pics from him...
thanks for those you already posted..fascinating.