Antarctic Cruise ship hit by large wave

[papa_smurf]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20101209/video/vwl-antarctic-cruise-ship-tossed-by-mass-15af341.html

Wouldn't mind going on a Antarctic cruise myself (not cheap, cruises start at $8000), but after seeing that video I'd rather go in one of the Russian Icebreakers they use.

(think if my dad saw that, he'll say "thats nothing, I've rowed across worse in the solent")

[Jimbuna]

My lad is off to Alaska in a couple of weeks time sailing off the Hubbard Glacier.

[Growler]

My lad is off to Alaska in a couple of weeks time sailing off the Hubbard Glacier.

<--- is jealous.

[Growler]

Jeez, what a ride. That's Coast Guard weather right there - the weather where the Guard ends up going out for the folks who decided that it wasn't bad enough to go in.

[TLAM Strike]

Got to laugh, HMS Endurance the Brit patrol/icebreaker that's normally down there was damaged by flooding and will be scrapped. Argentina's Icebreaker ARA Almirante Irizar is in drydock. Hopefully Chile can get their one icebreaker down there and rescue them.

This is what happens when peace breaks out and naval funding gets scrapped. You get a contingency in some remote comer of the world and there is no ship with a helipad to rescue your citizens. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

The film 'The Perfect Storm' was on tv again last night....now that was bad weather :o

[Growler]

Got to laugh, HMS Endurance the Brit patrol/icebreaker that's normally down there was damaged by flooding and will be scrapped. Argentina's Icebreaker ARA Almirante Irizar is in drydock. Hopefully Chile can get their one icebreaker down there and rescue them.

This is what happens when peace breaks out and naval funding gets scrapped. You get a contingency in some remote comer of the world and there is no ship with a helipad to rescue your citizens. :yep:

It's not the Navy's job to help people at sea; that's up to individual nation's Coast Guards - it's their mission brief, not the Navy's. That said, the Navy seemed to do just fine helping out the folks on the Spamcruise, but that was also off the Cali coast, not that far out of Long Beach and San Diego - and not too much mention has been made of the Coast Guard's work in that situation, either. Antarctica's a bit of a stretch for everyone - definitely a "hostile workplace" and nobody's Coast Guard really operates there on a large enough scale to be of great benefit.

[TLAM Strike]

It's not the Navy's job to help people at sea; that's up to individual nation's Coast Guards - it's their mission brief, not the Navy's. You have been dealing with the USCG too much, some less financially well off nations the Coast Guard is a division of the Navy (Much like our Marine Corps) or their navy its self, or their Coast Guard does just that: guards the coast with little 1000 ton patrol cutters.

[Growler]

You have been dealing with the USCG too much, some less financially well off nations the Coast Guard is a division of the Navy (Much like our Marine Corps) or their navy its self, or their Coast Guard does just that: guards the coast with little 1000 ton patrol cutters.

Which is a result of the poor funding inherent to those nations, not directly as a consequence of peace breaking out. For those guys, peace breaking out means they're getting generic canned SoS aboard rather than name-brand SoS.

In other words, they're already inadequate to the task; peace breaking out only accelerates the rate at which a bad situation worsens.

[TarJak]

They didn't call them the roaring 40's for nothing.

[Gorduz]

The norwegian coast guard is a part of the navy, and I do not believe that Norway has as you put it " poor funding inherent to those nations". :stare:

I'm sorry but I got a bit offended there, there are different ways of doing things than the US does it, and that does not necessary make it worse.

One of the advantages of having a coast guard under the navy is that (at least for norway) coast guard opperations quickly end up being international rather than just a national concern, and thus the military and and secretery of state are more up to handling the situation than the minister of justice(which would have the responsibility if the coast guard was a civil organisation)

example

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russian-trawler-sparks-row-with-norway-511599.html

and in 1994 we had to fire on a icelandic trawler.


Ok, thats me for overreacting:oops:, back to the topic..

[Oberon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cso7NcQKBww

[Growler]

The norwegian coast guard is a part of the navy, and I do not believe that Norway has as you put it " poor funding inherent to those nations". :stare:

I'm sorry but I got a bit offended there, there are different ways of doing things than the US does it, and that does not necessary make it worse.

Poor wording on my part; my apologies.

[diver]

Which is a result of the poor funding inherent to those nations, not directly as a consequence of peace breaking out. For those guys, peace breaking out means they're getting generic canned SoS aboard rather than name-brand SoS.

In other words, they're already inadequate to the task; peace breaking out only accelerates the rate at which a bad situation worsens.


No.

Some countries just don't have a Coast Guard through internal structuring. Lack if finances absolutely has nothing to do with it.

[Dowly]

Did the front fell off? :88)