I'm not sure I ever made an introduction yet.

[Solace]

Here's my intro that I use on other forums usually, so here goes:

Hello, the name's Destiny. I'm an 18 year old American high school student, gamer, Teenagist, political activist, and web designer. I have played hundreds of games for different platforms and collect video game consoles. My collection currently consists of a Nintendo Wii, Xbox 360, GameCube, Dreamcast, SNES, NES, and Sega Game Gear.

My favorite video game console would have to be the Nintendo GameCube. My favorite video games are SWAT 3, StarCraft, Warcraft III, Warcraft II: Battle.net Edition, Diablo II, Diablo, Star Wars: X-Wing vs TIE Fighter, Age of Empires, Resident Evil: REmake, Resident Evil, Resident Evil Zero, Resident Evil 3: Nemesis, Resident Evil: Deadly Silence, Descent, Descent 2, Descent FreeSpace, Geist, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, MechWarrior 3, MechWarrior 4: Vengeance, Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2, Rogue Spear, Total Annihilation, Civilization II: Test of Time, Command & Conquer: Tiberian Sun, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Tribes 2, Unreal Tournament 2004, Half-Life, and Left 4 Dead.

I'm emo and my favorite band is Paramore. My role models are Hayley Williams and my uncle. My favorite movies are the original Star Wars trilogy, Inception, Twilight, Casino Royale, Alien, and Aliens. My favorite TV shows are the new Battlestar Galactica, LOST, Firefly, Stargate, Star Trek, Andromeda, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Farscape, Babylon 5, and a few others. My favorite books are The Terrible Hours by Peter Maas, StarCraft: Ghost - Nova by Keith DeCandido, and the Star Wars: Young Jedi Knight books by Kevin J. Anderson. I'm currently reading Twilight by Stephanie Meyer and Patient Zero by Jonathan Maberry.

After high school I'm going to further my education through college and become a high school counselor. It may not sound like a job most people want, but it's what I want to do, I like helping people, and as it turns out, I'm good at it. I am the leader of the Teenagist Party of the United States, the only political party dedicated teen rights. I'm also a strong advocate of lowering the voting age so that thirteen year olds get one-fourth vote and sixteen year olds get 1/2 vote. I speak English, German, Spanish, and I'm learning Lithuanian. My philosophy is that knowledge is in fact power and that we should all strive to further our knowledge, as well as our physical prowess.

The first message board I ever joined was the official Code Lyoko forum, there I found out about a fan-made Code Lyoko forum that was simply called 'Code Lyoko Forum' and quickly became an adminsitrator there. I later joined a forum called 'The Animated World', which was a forum about anime. Again I was entrusted with administrative powers by the head admin. Later I became an administrator on Explosmertacular and Planet Mac. I've administrated and moderated many other forums as well.

Recently I have created my own forums. On November 11, 2010 I teamed up with girl gamer, Lightning, and together we created Gameforia, a video game forum. Gameforia quickly grew popular and soar high with members and posts. Recently we've hit a spout of inactivity, as my fellow administrator has seemingly been too busy with high school and playing Vindictus.

On November 21, 2010 I created Religious Boards, a forum dedicated to discussing religion. Unlike Gameforia, Religious Boards is off to a rough start. We have only have a handful of members, however I'm not giving up on it, it's still pretty new. On November 22, 2010, I created my latest forum, Lifestyle Boards. Lifestyle Boards is in the same situation as Religious Boards, as in it could also use some more members, but I'm also not giving up on it.

I am a moderator or administrator on a lot of forums, and a normal member on even more. Aside from my own, some of the forums I frequent are Melonie Mac, the Duke Nukem Reloaded forum, LiveWire, Gaia Online, Giant Bomb, swtor.com, Best Buy Community, Debate Politics, Playfire, TheTwilightSaga.com, Subsim, Cheap Ass Gamer, AskMen, AimGirl, Apolyton, Virtual Teen, TeenSpot, GoTeen, Space Sim Central, Space.com, PSU, Neoseeker, GirlGamer.com, Politics Forum, NSider2, TechRadar, and others, just ask and I'll give you a full list.

At this time I'm currently single, and I just got out of a relationship. I'll only date individuals 13 to say 29 (maybe a little older, depending on the person). I enjoy playing video games, posting on forums, helping other people, and bettering myself. When it comes to religion I'm a Christian. Well, that's about it for now.

[antikristuseke]

Go away.
I mean hello, a common typo :D

[Solace]

Go away.
I mean hello, a common typo :D
Nice to meet you too /sarcasm

[Dowly]

Alien, Aliens, Babylon 5... I approve. :up:

[onelifecrisis]

Hmm...

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-eynobae-support-a.html

[antikristuseke]

Nice to meet you too /sarcasm

I'm just joking, good to have you on board. In time you will probably learn to tame allmost everything I post with a boulder of salt.

[Solace]

Alien, Aliens, Twilight, Babylon 5... I approve. :up:
Fix'd lol

[Oberon]

Well...erm...hello... :hmmm:

[Solace]

I'm just joking, good to have you on board. In time you will probably learn to tame allmost everything I post with a boulder of salt.
I know.

[Takeda Shingen]

Hi.

I'm pretty sure that Dowly would not have included Twilight.

[Dowly]

Hi.

I'm pretty sure that Dowly would not have included Twilight.

Oh cool, I got my very own forum guardian. :O:

:salute:

[onelifecrisis]

You're 18 and you'll date a 13 year old?

[Takeda Shingen]

Oh cool, I got my very own forum guardian. :O:

:salute:

Forum guardian.....thank you. That is so much better than my previous title as fairy godmother. Those heels are murder. :O:

[AVGWarhawk]

My favorite TV shows are the new Battlestar Galactica, LOST, Firefly, Stargate, Star Trek, Andromeda, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Farscape, Babylon 5


These are a favorite of a few here at SS. Any interest in Tokio Hotel? My daughter likes Paramore.

My favorite movies are the original Star Wars trilogy Second only to Gladiator for me. But yeah, showing my age. I watched these when they were first out in the theaters waaaayyyyyy back in 1977. My youngest watched them with me not long ago. She loves the trilogy. Funny how through the years these movies are still very popular and the characters are still evident in todays world via advertising, Halloween costumes, etc.

Welcome aboard to the boards. :DL

[the_tyrant]

:salute:
Hi

[Solace]

You're 18 and you'll date a 13 year old?
If she's hot.

[Solace]

These are a favorite of a few here at SS. Any interest in Tokio Hotel? My daughter likes Paramore.

Second only to Gladiator for me. But yeah, showing my age. I watched these when they were first out in the theaters waaaayyyyyy back in 1977. My youngest watched them with me not long ago. She loves the trilogy. Funny how through the years these movies are still very popular and the characters are still evident in todays world via advertising, Halloween costumes, etc.

Welcome aboard to the boards. :DL
No, never saw Tokio Hotel, is it any good? How old is your daughter?

[the_tyrant]

No, never saw Tokio Hotel, is it any good? How old is your daughter?

old enough to be your mom:O:

[Solace]

old enough to be your mom:O:
Darn. :sunny:

[Rockstar]

Thats not an introduction, it's a resume'. Are you adding to that 'link farming' as well?

[Jimbuna]

Forum guardian.....thank you. That is so much better than my previous title as fairy godmother. Those heels are murder. :O:

ROFLMAO :har:

Welcome Solace.

[I-25]

soooo if i may ask what brought you to subsim :P

[antikristuseke]

Forum guardian.....thank you. That is so much better than my previous title as fairy godmother. Those heels are murder. :O:
No wonder you prefer being forum guardian.
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5637/fairygodmothera.gif

[Takeda Shingen]

No wonder you prefer being forum guardian.
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/5637/fairygodmothera.gif

*shivers*

[Tchocky]

You'll love this one then (no way am I posting it as a full image)

http://i.imgur.com/94ePv.jpg

[antikristuseke]

Yeah, i allready posted that in the funny picture thread some time ago, made me lol hard, if you know what i mean about hard ;)

[frau kaleun]

Forum guardian.....thank you. That is so much better than my previous title as fairy godmother. Those heels are murder. :O:

Could be worse. You could be Jimbuna's Snow Fairy. :O:

[Tchocky]

Yeah, i allready posted that in the funny picture thread some time ago, made me lol hard, if you know what i mean about hard ;)

Well, this introduction thread went somewhere fast :DL

[antikristuseke]

I tend to have that effect on threads when I am at work.

[Tchocky]

Another 24 hour?

Got off a night shift at 6.30am and I haven't been able to sleep since. The world is blurry :O:

[antikristuseke]

Naah, just 14 because the next shift said she will be late due to a doctors appointment, will get off at 10am. my next 24 hour shift is on the 19th, but I did loose another day off and instead of sleeping on the 23rd will be working day shift, right now my monthyl total is up to 243 hours by the ned of december, my three month average is up to 195 instead of what it is supposed to be at 168. Needless to say I am not 100% pleased with the situation, but what can I do.

[Penguin]

I hope for you that you do get paid by the hour and don't have a fixed monthly income.

[antikristuseke]

That is indeed the case.

[Tchocky]

Naah, just 14 because the next shift said she will be late due to a doctors appointment, will get off at 10am. my next 24 hour shift is on the 19th, but I did loose another day off and instead of sleeping on the 23rd will be working day shift, right now my monthyl total is up to 243 hours by the ned of december, my three month average is up to 195 instead of what it is supposed to be at 168. Needless to say I am not 100% pleased with the situation, but what can I do.

Oof, I can't say I envy you. I'm in almost the opposite position - haven't been able to take any time off for over a year, now I've built up a barrel-load of leave that will keep me going well into january.

[Jimbuna]

Could be worse. You could be Jimbuna's Snow Fairy. :O:

Pair of socks :DL

[Solace]

soooo if i may ask what brought you to subsim :P
Google -> Submarine Forums -> 2nd result

[Solace]

What the hell happened in the last page and a half of this thread?

[Takeda Shingen]

What the hell happened in the last page and a half of this thread?

SubSim happened. People talk and become friends; it is what makes this place so special.

[antikristuseke]

The first rule of GT is that topics are strictly optional to adhere to.
Sorry about the highjack.

[onelifecrisis]

Sorry about the highjack.

I hope you're suitably ashamed! Now let's get back to the main topic: Solace a.k.a. Destiny, forum creator and moderator, leader of the Teenagist Party, and enthusiastic gamer!
And pedophile.

[antikristuseke]

http://itnurk.com/files/upload/urod/2010/07/1278496754-855_01.jpg

[Solace]

I hope you're suitably ashamed! Now let's get back to the main topic: Solace a.k.a. Destiny, forum creator and moderator, leader of the Teenagist Party, and enthusiastic gamer!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2367515373_515ff7a325.jpg

[onelifecrisis]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2367515373_515ff7a325.jpg

Well, you take it well, I'll give you that.
I'm normally a fairly welcoming guy on these forums (when I'm around) but you show up claiming you want relationships with 13-year-olds and that you're the leader of a political party (I'm guessing a party of one) whose goals include legalizing said relationships. Not a good start in my books. But maybe that's just me.

[antikristuseke]

Voting rights for 13 year olds? Surely that way madness lays.

[frau kaleun]

You're 18 and you'll date a 13 year old?

If she's hot.

I hope you're suitably ashamed! Now let's get back to the main topic: Solace a.k.a. Destiny, forum creator and moderator, leader of the Teenagist Party, and enthusiastic gamer!
And pedophile.

Gee, I did some Googling on the "Teenagist Party" and found this posted at Livewire, one of the forums the OP says he frequents:

The Teenagist Party was formed to work towards full equal rights for individuals the age of thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, and nineteen. We hope to accomplish the following:

-Full equal rights for teens under the United States Constitution, as well as federal, state, and local laws and ordinances.
-Either classify anyone thirteen-years-old or older as an adult or give teenagers their own separate legally recognized classification.
-Bring universal suffrage to teenagers by making the voting age 13. 13 year olds get 1/4 vote and 16 year olds get 1/2 vote.
-Lower the drinking age to atleast 18.
-The ability for teenage individuals to sign legally binding documents.
-Lower the age of consent to 13 with other individuals between the ages of 13-21.
-Enact laws preventing public schools from ever implementing a school uniform. -Enact laws making it illegal for public schools to beat their students.

(Emphasis mine.)

:nope:

[onelifecrisis]

Gee, I did some Googling on the "Teenagist Party" and found this posted at Livewire, one of the forums the OP says he frequents:



(Emphasis mine.)

:nope:


I know. I posted a link to that very page earlier in this thread. I don't think anyone clicked it.

IIRC Solace also posted a questionaire here including the question "Should the age of sexual consent be lowered to 13?"

[frau kaleun]

I know. I posted a link to that very page earlier in this thread. I don't think anyone clicked it.

Me neither, which is why I thought it was worth quoting. :03:

[antikristuseke]

The age of concent used to be 14 here in Estonia, now it is 16. A much more reasonable age in my opinion.

[Solace]

Well, you take it well, I'll give you that.
I'm normally a fairly welcoming guy on these forums (when I'm around) but you show up claiming you want relationships with 13-year-olds and that you're the leader of a political party (I'm guessing a party of one) whose goals include legalizing said relationships. Not a good start in my books. But maybe that's just me.

It's only pedophilia if they haven't hit puberty.

[frau kaleun]

It's only pedophilia if they haven't hit puberty.

If you are over the age of consent and they're not, it's called rape. The end.

[Takeda Shingen]

It's only pedophilia if they haven't hit puberty.

It may not be pedophilia, but it is still illegal.

EDIT: Damn, frau beat me.

[onelifecrisis]

It's only pedophilia if they haven't hit puberty.

I get what you're saying, but puberty is not something that happens overnight. Most people have not finished it at 13 (some have not even started it).

Plus, while sexual attraction to a young-but-physically-matured girl may be natural, that doesn't make it right to act on it.

[Takeda Shingen]

Let alone that the emotional centers of the brain do not mature until the mid-twenties.

[Solace]

It may not be pedophilia, but it is still illegal.

EDIT: Damn, frau beat me.
It's only illegal if you have sex with them. But teens can date teens. EighTEEN is still a teen.

[razark]

I know. I posted a link to that very page earlier in this thread. I don't think anyone clicked it.
I'm sure some people did. Maybe they found it as hard to believe as I did.

[Takeda Shingen]

It's only illegal if you have sex with them. But teens can date teens. EighTEEN is still a teen.

Not in the eyes of the law.

[frau kaleun]

Only if you have sex with them. But teens can date teens. EighTEEN is still a teen.

"Age of consent" does not refer to dating. Legally speaking it refers to sexual relations, or age of consent to marry, which it is assumed will include sexual relations.

[antikristuseke]

Iv been trying to write a post answering this age of concent lowering crap but so far everything I have written makes me sound like a typical internet tough guy so I'll just take a pass.

[Solace]

Not in the eyes of the law.
Actually yes, it is only illegal if you have sex with them.

[Takeda Shingen]

Iv been trying to write a post answering this age of concent lowering crap but so far everything I have written makes me sound like a typical internet tough guy so I'll just take a pass.

If you do it, make sure you include a detailed exaggeration of your fighting prowess. Single out a few members by stating that you're certain you could take them.

[Solace]

Iv been trying to write a post answering this age of concent lowering crap but so far everything I have written makes me sound like a typical internet tough guy so I'll just take a pass.
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b479/MrE420/Lazy_cat_drop.gif

[Madox58]

I'll run with onelifecrisis.
When my Daugther was 13 or so and an 18 year old came sniffing around?
I beat his arse and sent him on his way with a warning.
"Call the Law and when I get out? It will be worse!"
He never came back.
:stare:

[onelifecrisis]

You're 18 and you'll date a 13 year old?
If she's hot.
Actually yes, it is only illegal if you have sex with them.

So let me get this right... you want to date a 13-year-old only if she's hot because you like her personality?

[Takeda Shingen]

Actually yes, it is only illegal if you have sex with them.

No, you said that 18 is considered a teenager. This is not true. An 18-year-old in the United States of America had legally attained the age of majority with exception of the states of Alabama, Nebraska and Mississippi. Accordingly, even though the suffix -teen appears at the end of the name, the same person is opened to a series of legal and civil liabilities pertaining to romatic engagement with minors.

[Solace]

So let me get this right... you want to date a 13-year-old only if she's hot because you like her personality?
If I like her personality and she is mature. We could wait until it would be legal to have sex.

[Platapus]

It's only pedophilia if they haven't hit puberty.


Correct.

If the child is in puberty (11-14ish) it is called Hebephilia

and if they are post puberty but still a minor it is called Ephebophilia.

Personally I have come to terms with my teleiophilia as it manifests itself to gynephilia.

:DL

[onelifecrisis]

If I like her personality and she is mature. We could wait until it would be legal to have sex.

"Could"?

[Solace]

"Could"?
Would. :yeah:

[onelifecrisis]

Correct.

If the child is in puberty (11-14ish) it is called Hebephilia

and if they are post puberty but still a minor it is called Ephebophilia.

Personally I have come to terms with my teleiophilia as it manifests itself to gynephilia.

:DL
Dis hurt my brain.

[mookiemookie]

Personally I have come to terms with my teleiophilia as it manifests itself to gynephilia.

:DL

Could be worse: Gerontophilia :know:

[antikristuseke]

Gif that actually made me laugh

I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me with that, but nevermind.

On to the point, there are several reasons why I have a severely violent reaction towards pedophilia (lets not start nit picking about the exact term here). I will not be sharing those here, sufices to say some people close to me have been affected by it. I find it quite difficult to stay reasonable when it comes to this topic.

[Solace]

Could be worse: Gerontophilia :know:
I had to look that up and... LOL

http://www.grannydate.co.uk/

[frau kaleun]

I find it quite difficult to stay reasonable when it comes to this topic.

I knew I liked you for a reason. :D

[Platapus]

Enact laws preventing public schools from ever implementing a school uniform.

That reminds me of a conversation The Frau and I had with her daughter who was in highschool at the time.

Every year, in Virginia, the topic of school uniforms comes up. Her daughter was absolutely against it. Wearing a uniform would stifle her individuality.

I told her that she currently wears a school uniform.

"No I don't!!"

Yes, you do. You wear exactly what your peer group wears and nothing else. The colour, style and brand name must match what all your friends wear. When you peer group changes how they dress, you follow theirs lead and change also. Where is the individuality when you wear only what your peer group wants you to wear?

She then tried to explain that they are all acting as individuals.... together. :damn:

[Takeda Shingen]

Or paraskavedekatriaphilia.

[Solace]

I'm not sure what you are trying to tell me with that, but nevermind.

On to the point, there are several reasons why I have a severely violent reaction towards pedophilia (lets not start nit picking about the exact term here). I will not be sharing those here, sufices to say some people close to me have been affected by it. I find it quite difficult to stay reasonable when it comes to this topic.
Something along the lines of this:
http://i54.tinypic.com/xmv7nm.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2j60gat.gif

http://i53.tinypic.com/28slwmo.gif

http://i55.tinypic.com/wclpwg.gif

http://i51.tinypic.com/ac64uh.gif

[onelifecrisis]

That reminds me of a conversation The Frau and I had with her daughter who was in highschool at the time.

Every year, in Virginia, the topic of school uniforms comes up. Her daughter was absolutely against it. Wearing a uniform would stifle her individuality.

I told her that she currently wears a school uniform.

"No I don't!!"

Yes, you do. You wear exactly what your peer group wears and nothing else. The colour, style and brand name must match what all your friends wear. When you peer group changes how they dress, you follow theirs lead and change also. Where is the individuality when you wear only what your peer group wants you to wear?

She then tried to explain that they are all acting as individuals.... together. :damn:

lol

Reminds me of a comedy sketch I saw.

Interviewer: What does that tattoo on your neck say?
Boy: It says "INDIVIDUAL"
Interviewer: And why did you get that tattoo?
Boy: All my mates had one.

[Oberon]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/4/chris_hansen.jpg

[Solace]

lol

Reminds me of a comedy sketch I saw.

Interviewer: What does that tattoo on your neck say?
Boy: It says "INDIVIDUAL"
Interviewer: And why did you get that tattoo?
Boy: All my mates had one.
School uniforms do kill individuality. And it's not like there's just one group, there's preps, emos, jocks, cheerleaders, geeks, band, scene, stoners, and other groups all separate. Then there are the rebels who just wear and do whatever they want.

[Madox58]

Argue it however you like.
If it was MY daughter?
They'd never find the body.

[Solace]

Argue it however you like.
If it was MY daughter?
They'd never find the body.
How old is your daughter? :rock:

[onelifecrisis]

Someone ban this guy already.

[Solace]

Someone ban this guy already.
Why would the admins ban me?

[Takeda Shingen]

Hmm. No, a few hours ago you hadn't made an introduction. Since then, you have proceeded to vaugely endorse illegal activity, insult the membership and complain about the site's fundraising drive.

I suppose that some introductions are best not made.

EDIT: Some light reading, should you intend to be around for longer than a few weeks: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_rules3_faq_item

[Solace]

Hmm. No, a few hours ago you hadn't made an introduction. Since then, you have proceeded to vaugely endorse illegal activity, insult the membership and complain about the site's fundraising drive.

I suppose that some introductions are best not made.

EDIT: Some light reading, should you intend to be around for longer than a few weeks: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_rules3_faq_item
I didn't endorse any illegal activity.

[Takeda Shingen]

I didn't endorse any illegal activity.

Debatable. I don't think that you'd find many that would back you in that assertion. The best guideline is that if it seems like it might be too close to the line, it probably is. I believe that you've crossed a line in this thread.

[Bort]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u32/FixYou27/Internet%20Pictures/ilikewerethisthreadisgoing.jpg
:yeah:

[Solace]

Debatable. I don't think that you'd find many that would back you in that assertion. The best guideline is that if it seems like it might be too close to the line, it probably is. I believe that you've crossed a line in this thread.
I never once mentioned sex with minors in a favorable light.

[Takeda Shingen]

I never once mentioned sex with minors in a favorable light.

Not explicitly, but clearly implied.

[Solace]

Not explicitly, but clearly implied.
I went out of my way to say "non-sexual relationship"

[Takeda Shingen]

I went out of my way to say "non-sexual relationship"

If you say so.

[antikristuseke]

So you want the age of concent removed for ages 13-21 for non sexual relationships where the age of concent has no bearing?

[Solace]

So you want the age of concent removed for ages 13-21 for non sexual relationships where the age of concent has no bearing?
What? :dead:

[frau kaleun]

So you want the age of concent removed for ages 13-21 for non sexual relationships where the age of concent has no bearing?

Yeah, he absolutely doesn't want adults to have sex with kids. He just wants kids to be free to consent to have sex with adults, without the adults getting hassled by The Man over it. That's totally different. :shifty:

[Madox58]

Sorry.
But an 18 year old Male can not have a non-sexual relationship with a 13 year old.
In theory it could happen.
But RARELY does.
I was 18 and dated a 14 year old.
I know what happens and how it happens!
I have a great Son and Daughter from that time in my life.
But I'll be damned if I agree it was OK in the first place.

[Solace]

Sorry.
But an 18 year old Male can not have a non-sexual relationship with a 13 year old.
In theory it could happen.
But RARELY does.
I was 18 and dated a 14 year old.
I know what happens and how it happens!
I have a great Son and Daughter from that time in my life.
But I'll be damned if I agree it was OK in the first place.
Did you get my PM...about your daughter?
http://membres.multimania.fr/fredrichung/forum/i%20like%20were%20this%20thread%20is%20going.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

Did you get my PM...about your daughter?
http://membres.multimania.fr/fredrichung/forum/i%20like%20were%20this%20thread%20is%20going.jpg

If you don't like where this thread is going, you should probably stop steering it in that direction.

[the_tyrant]

obviously Solace wants to raise his post count(drastically)
so he posted things that could lead to a prolonged discussion.
At least its better than my nonsensical posts

[Takeda Shingen]

At least its better than my nonsensical posts

Nah, you're okay tyrant.

[Madox58]

Did you get my PM...about your daughter?
http://membres.multimania.fr/fredrichung/forum/i%20like%20were%20this%20thread%20is%20going.jpg
Yes.
And you haven't told me where you live so I can send her slap you around.
Besides, She's to Old for you and makes Her Mother look like a Saint in the Beeatch department.

[the_tyrant]

Nah, you're okay tyrant.

Well at the beginning when i just came here I was a huge attention whore
Now i have a steady post count, so I'm trying to be nice

[antikristuseke]

Dont rise to the bait and for petes sake remove the kill thing from your post, this little **** isnt worth it.

[Madox58]

Better?

[Solace]

Yes.
And you haven't told me where you live so I can send her slap you around.
Besides, She's to Old for you and makes Her Mother look like a Saint in the Beeatch department.
She's only thirty. That's not too old...

[frau kaleun]

Come to think of it, I'm not sure I ever properly introduced myself.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I frequent places like Subsim and my cubicle at work and the local martial arts dojo. I'm also the founder of a new political party, the Frau Kaleun Hits People Over The Head With An Angry Wombat Party.

Our platform is simple and to the point: we advocate the legalization of Frau Kaleun hitting people over the head with an angry wombat.

Now, I'm not saying I would ever hit anyone over the head with an angry wombat. I certainly do not view the act of hitting people over the head with ill-tempered Australian mammals in a favorable light. However I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to pursue the kinds of relationships where other people might find themselves getting hit over the head in that fashion, provided the other people involved are the kinds of people whose noggins appear worthy (to me) of a good hard smack with a small marsupial who is already having a really bad day. All I want is to give other people the freedom to be hit over the head with an angry wombat, by me, should they choose to engage in that activity.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I approved the hitting of this post over the head with an angry wombat.

[Madox58]

Now you want to post info that was in a PM between you and I?
Son, I tried to be nice in those PM's.
I tried to give you advice from my mistakes but it seems you want to use that as post count or to bait me in some way?
You want to start talking about MY Daughter?
:stare:
I HIGHLY advise you.........
DO NOT GO THERE!

[Solace]

Come to think of it, I'm not sure I ever properly introduced myself.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I frequent places like Subsim and my cubicle at work and the local martial arts dojo. I'm also the founder of a new political party, the Frau Kaleun Hits People Over The Head With An Angry Wombat Party.

Our platform is simple and to the point: we advocate the legalization of Frau Kaleun hitting people over the head with an angry wombat.

Now, I'm not saying I would ever hit anyone over the head with an angry wombat. I certainly do not view the act of hitting people over the head with ill-tempered Australian mammals in a favorable light. However I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to pursue the kinds of relationships where other people might find themselves getting hit over the head in that fashion, provided the other people involved are the kinds of people whose noggins appear worthy (to me) of a good hard smack with a small marsupial who is already having a really bad day. All I want is to give other people the freedom to be hit over the head with an angry wombat, by me, should they choose to engage in that activity.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I approved the hitting of this post over the head with an angry wombat.

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/oh_you.jpg?w=447&h=335

[TLAM Strike]

Come to think of it, I'm not sure I ever properly introduced myself.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I frequent places like Subsim and my cubicle at work and the local martial arts dojo. I'm also the founder of a new political party, the Frau Kaleun Hits People Over The Head With An Angry Wombat Party.

Our platform is simple and to the point: we advocate the legalization of Frau Kaleun hitting people over the head with an angry wombat.

Now, I'm not saying I would ever hit anyone over the head with an angry wombat. I certainly do not view the act of hitting people over the head with ill-tempered Australian mammals in a favorable light. However I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to pursue the kinds of relationships where other people might find themselves getting hit over the head in that fashion, provided the other people involved are the kinds of people whose noggins appear worthy (to me) of a good hard smack with a small marsupial who is already having a really bad day. All I want is to give other people the freedom to be hit over the head with an angry wombat, by me, should they choose to engage in that activity.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I approved the hitting of this post over the head with an angry wombat.

I would be interested in joining such a political party just one question: are the wombats alive at the time? :hmmm:

[antikristuseke]

They would have to be, dead wombats can't really be miffed, now can they?

[TLAM Strike]

They would have to be, dead wombats can't really be miffed, now can they?

Well I don't know about you but if I was dead I would be really ticked off! ;)

[frau kaleun]

I would be interested in joining such a political party just one question: are the wombats alive at the time? :hmmm:

Yes, otherwise we'd never get the PETA endorsement.

[Reece]

I'm with OLC and most others here, you only have to look at the average 13yo girl then look at typical 18yo man to see the difference in maturity is vast, a 13yo girl is just that, a girl!! A man does not go out with a 13yo.:nope:
There is enough time in life for them to grow up and be mature adults, why tie them down this early in life, for crying out loud there only kids! find someone your own age!:timeout:

[frau kaleun]

Actually, considering this:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=177628

I'm surprised he's still here. We're not exactly the hotspot for the target demographic. :haha:

[Krauter]

I think he wants to start his own online dating space for 13-18yo's and another "Geezer Dating" site for all you folks who are 22+ :haha:

[Gargamel]

Damn new guy is making us other new guys look bad.

[Radtgaeb]

Damn new guy is making us other new guys look bad.


I'm not expert, and in fact I may have disappeared for a couple years on account of studies...but after lurking this particular thread, I'm sure you have nothing to worry about as far as being "shown up".

[Reece]

Damn new guy is making us other new guys look bad.
No 2 persons are alike!:up:

[krashkart]

No 2 persons are alike!:up:

So true. Two true, in fact. :DL

[Stealth Hunter]

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/oh_you.jpg?w=447&h=335

http://i54.tinypic.com/ndpumr.jpg

[antikristuseke]

Don't worry about it, I was the new guy once and I am a complete c***, somehow i have managed to fit in.

[Sailor Steve]

School uniforms do kill individuality.
Not at all, anymore than military uniforms or pilots' uniforms. I attended a private shool for awhile, and some of us were highly individualistic. It's not the clothes that make an individual.

You are too young to understand this, yet you think that young teens should be given full adult rights?

[Sailor Steve]

I looked at the Teenagist website, and I've changed my mind. Everyone should be declared an adult at age thirteen. Additionally, everyone should have to move out of their parents' house, get a job and act like an adult at age thirteen.

Good luck with that.

[McBeck]

I looked at the Teenagist website, and I've changed my mind. Everyone should be declared an adult at age thirteen. Additionally, everyone should have to move out of their parents' house, get a job and act like an adult at age thirteen.

Good luck with that.
I was just thinking that!
Why is that teens want all the benefits of adults, but dont want to accept the consequences?
They want to change the legal age of drinking to 18 - OK, but lets then in return change the legal age for driving to 20...give and take

Come to think of it, I'm not sure I ever properly introduced myself.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I frequent places like Subsim and my cubicle at work and the local martial arts dojo. I'm also the founder of a new political party, the Frau Kaleun Hits People Over The Head With An Angry Wombat Party.

Our platform is simple and to the point: we advocate the legalization of Frau Kaleun hitting people over the head with an angry wombat.

Now, I'm not saying I would ever hit anyone over the head with an angry wombat. I certainly do not view the act of hitting people over the head with ill-tempered Australian mammals in a favorable light. However I see no reason why I shouldn't be able to pursue the kinds of relationships where other people might find themselves getting hit over the head in that fashion, provided the other people involved are the kinds of people whose noggins appear worthy (to me) of a good hard smack with a small marsupial who is already having a really bad day. All I want is to give other people the freedom to be hit over the head with an angry wombat, by me, should they choose to engage in that activity.

I'm Frau Kaleun, and I approved the hitting of this post over the head with an angry wombat.
Frau - excellent post! If I dont have wombats around, can I use a chicken?

[Penguin]

:nope:
do you guys really think that this guy is for real?
the only proof that he or his party exists being a post in some crappy forum?
I thought that you were smarter than this...

I think it's just a made-up internet personality from a well-known troll

[I-25]

i admit i'm lol'ing my arse off reading the thread but dam man your crossing the line, talk about immature behavior, this is why teens aren't allowed to vote, i mean hell i was raised in Mexico and 18 is the legal age for everything there, i personality think the 21 YO limit on the states is a little over doing it, but 13? come on man!
I'd expect more from a political activist than trolling.
and school uniforms? jesus... how's that affect "individuality".
from preschool to high school i used uniforms and loved it, give's a sense of oldschool pride in a modern world (not to mention girls in school uniforms are like Ohh yeaaa:cool:)
and you say you wanna be a high school counselor to help people?
well... help people! don't go around inciting more crap.
i'd never wanna have my kids (if i ever have any) to be counseled by someone like you.
look man i'm a 22yo guy that lived my teen years to the max and hell to me their not over yet, teen rights are just about right as they are, i ain't against you for being emo or whatever i have plenty of emo friends (real emos... i know goths are completely something else)

your right knowledge is power, but use it, don't abuse it.

Edit: penguin's probably got a point...

[frau kaleun]

and you say you wanna be a high school counselor to help people

Well, how else is he gonna keep meeting all those hot teenagers? Skulking around the edges of the school grounds at recess is so overrated.

[frau kaleun]

Frau - excellent post! If I dont have wombats around, can I use a chicken?

Politics sure is a dirty business. The Frau Kaleun Hits People Over The Head With An Angry Wombat Party has existed for less than 24 hours and already a movement is afoot to undermine party unity. :nope:

I blame the vast chicken wing conspiracy.

[frau kaleun]

:nope:
I think it's just a made-up internet personality from a well-known troll

View Public Profile > User Lists > Add to Ignore List

I'm just here for the lulz. :yeah:

[Penguin]

Fight the mistreatment of wombats through the The-Frau-Kaleun-Hits-People-Over-The-Head-With-An-Angry-Wombat-Party!

Join the We-Hit-The-Frau-Kaleun-Hits-People-Over-The-Head-With-An-Angry-Wombat-Party-Members-Who-Are-Mean-To-Wombats-With-Stuffed-Pandas-Covered-In-Chocolate-Sauce-Movement!

You'll also get voting rights in every second year when your age is uneven, so 13 (and15) year-olds can vote here!

At least we have a common enemy in these damned chicken wings! We shall exterminate them first, then go on!

[mookiemookie]

School uniforms do kill individuality.

Good. Kids in school don't need individuality. They need to learn. You don't need individuality to get good grades. Besides, I went to a high school where we wore uniforms and nobody had any problems expressing who they were.

[Takeda Shingen]

Good. Kids in school don't need individuality. They need to learn. You don't need individuality to get good grades. Besides, I went to a high school where we wore uniforms and nobody had any problems expressing who they were.

Seriously. I have no idea where people came up with the idea that education was a fashion contest.

[Radtgaeb]

Good. Kids in school don't need individuality. They need to learn. You don't need individuality to get good grades. Besides, I went to a high school where we wore uniforms and nobody had any problems expressing who they were.

This. So Much this.

Even for being one of the "younger" members of subsim at 20, I completely agree with this. In fact, uniforms would be a great boon to education anywhere, it eliminates another arm of the "class system" that has been mentioned to exist in schools. It's not about creating fascists, it's about improving performance and enhancing focus.

[ETR3(SS)]

You know you would think that with the sheer amount of copy/paste jobs you do on internet forums, you would get the clue that maybe people are going to take you for a troll that has nothing better to do in life.

This just in, Google "teenagist" and all you get is this guys forum spam around the internet. Methinks you won't last long here.:hmmm:

[DarkFish]

That reminds me of a conversation The Frau and I had with her daughter who was in highschool at the time.

Every year, in Virginia, the topic of school uniforms comes up. Her daughter was absolutely against it. Wearing a uniform would stifle her individuality.

I told her that she currently wears a school uniform.

"No I don't!!"

Yes, you do. You wear exactly what your peer group wears and nothing else. The colour, style and brand name must match what all your friends wear. When you peer group changes how they dress, you follow theirs lead and change also. Where is the individuality when you wear only what your peer group wants you to wear?

She then tried to explain that they are all acting as individuals.... together. :damn:It's not necessarily about "individuality" per se, but more about connecting yourself to a certain group, as you say. However, your daughter is also right in that a group as a whole can often want to be "individual": independent and clearly distinguishable.
Me myself, I'm a metalhead. Metalheads have a pretty distinct culture, with different clothing, hair and even behaviour codes. Being forced to wear a uniform would severely limit the possibility for me to affirm my membership to this group.


BTW, what is the advantage of school uniforms? I can't think of any.

[Herr-Berbunch]

BTW, what is the advantage of school uniforms? I can't think of any.

So everybody is equal, nobody gets picked on (in school) for not having the latest trainers (sneakers to the merry-cans :)) or clothes. It doesn't always work but it's a good starter.

My wife is a teacher at my old school, where uniform didn't really get a look in after your first year - now they all have exactly the same, there is a fund for the less well-off kids (most of them, it's a very deprived area!). Aside from the uniform the school has returned to a house-system with hard fought competitions. Because of these two things, and a few smaller adjustments, the school now has a waiting list where just five years ago it was very much not a popular school to be at!

Pupils are allowed to be individuals - for the 75% of the week they're not in school, plus the 14/15 weeks holiday they get per year. Kids need discipline and structure and uniform is just one part of that.




Oh, look at me being all serious for a change! :nope:

[frau kaleun]

BTW, what is the advantage of school uniforms? I can't think of any.

They make it much harder for kids to use clothes as status symbols for the purposes of excluding, bullying, ridiculing other kids who don't wear the preferred styles, brand names, etc. They remove "what everybody else is wearing" as a subject of focus and concern and encourage kids to come up with other, more clever ways of expressing their individuality (which, if they wish, they can still do via clothing when they are "off the clock" anyway).

They can save parents a great deal of time, money, and hassle, since buying school clothes becomes a relatively simple matter and one that is less likely to be accompanied by sounds of whining, begging, sulking, and adolescent threats of "If I can't have [x] I'll just die!"

From an adult point of view, where I work I didn't have to wear a "medical office" uniform when I started since I'm not a member of the medical staff. A few years into it they brought up the idea of having all the staff dress to the same standard and offered to purchase the first set of approved clothing for us.

I was dead set against it, not for "individuality" reasons but because when I took the job I'd spent a good bit of my own money buying the appropriate "business casual" wardrobe that was required at the time, which I would have no use for if I didn't wear it to work.

The majority wanted the uniforms, though, and that's what we went with. It wasn't long before I came around and I wouldn't go back now if I could. Putting together an outfit five mornings a week no longer requires the kind of thought and planning that it used to and instead of making a weekly trip to the drycleaners, everything I wear to work now goes in the washer/dryer with the rest of my stuff. Over the long run it has saved me a lot of time, energy, and money. Even if I buy my own uniforms to supplement what my employer provided, it's still much cheaper than keeping a business casual wardrobe together.

[Solace]

There are no real advantages to having a school uniform. Those who think "it will put an end to bullying" are just naive. What do you think that just because your high school has a uniform everyone loves each other and nobody will ever say or do anything that is inappropriate?

edit
Would you rather have someone say "your shirt is so 2009, get with the times" or "you're a ****ing faggot who..." and say things that are actually hurtful and cause you serious emotional distress and possibly depression (and along with it more teen suicides)? Thank god school uniforms aren't used in America (except in some private schools).

[mookiemookie]

There are no real advantages to having a school uniform. Those who think "it will put an end to bullying" are just naive. What do you think that just because your high school has a uniform everyone loves each other and nobody will ever say or do anything that is inappropriate?

Nobody claimed it would put an end to bullying. That's a strawman argument. It removes clothes as status symbols and a basis for bullying in an environment where distractions like who's wearing what should be minimized. You're there to learn, not to take part in a fashion show.

There are no disadvantages to requiring uniforms.

[Solace]

Nobody claimed it would put an end to bullying. That's a strawman argument. It removes clothes as status symbols and a basis for bullying in an environment where distractions like who's wearing what should be minimized. You're there to learn, not to take part in a fashion show.

There are no disadvantages to requiring uniforms.
High school isn't really about learning. It's about:
-Discovering who you are and what you want to do with your life after high school.
-Chillin with friends.
-Dating.
-Sports (if you're a jock).
-Sex.
-Learning about society.


Sure, mathematics may be useful to an extent, but they teach one-sided versions of history and most of their science information is totally outdated. Did you know they still teach that there are only 9 primary objects in the solar system? What the ****? I mean there are 8 known planets and 5 known dwarf planets, with several other dwarf planets which are unconfirmed but the evidence supports they exist. Half the stuff they teach in both social and physical science classes is either biased or wrong.

[Solace]

Nobody claimed it would put an end to bullying. That's a strawman argument. It removes clothes as status symbols and a basis for bullying in an environment where distractions like who's wearing what should be minimized. You're there to learn, not to take part in a fashion show.

There are no disadvantages to requiring uniforms.
Nobody would agree to use school uniforms in the USA. It would be unenforced and everyone would just do what they have been doing.

[mookiemookie]

High school isn't really about learning. It's about:
-Discovering who you are and what you want to do with your life after high school.
-Chillin with friends.
-Dating.
-Sports (if you're a jock).
-Sex.
-Learning about society.


Wow. Your priorities are completely screwy.

Nobody would agree to use school uniforms in the USA. It would be unenforced and everyone would just do what they have been doing.

What about the numerous school districts that already require them?

In 2007–08, about 18 percent of public school principals reported that their school required students to wear uniforms. In 1999–2000, the percentage of principals who reported that their school required students to wear uniforms was 12 percent.

Also, in 2007–08, approximately 55 percent of public school principals reported that their school enforced a strict dress code, an increase from 47 percent in 1999-2000.

SOURCE: U.S. Department of Education, National Center for Education Statistics. (2009). Indicators of School Crime and Safety: 2009 (NCES 2010-012), Table 20.1.

[Solace]

Wow. Your priorities are completely screwy.



What about the numerous school districts that already require them?
There's only like 1 and that's in Illinois. There are several reason 99% of all schools don't have them.

[Solace]

Wow. Your priorities are completely screwy.



What about the numerous school districts that already require them?
Dress codes are different, but those actually make some sense to prevent teens from coming to school almost naked.

[mookiemookie]

There's only like 1 and that's in Illinois. There are several reason 99% of all schools don't have them.

95% of New Orleans’ public schools require uniforms
85% of Cleveland’s public schools require uniforms
80% of Chicago’s public schools require uniforms
65% of Boston’s public schools require uniforms
60% of Miami’s public schools require uniforms
50% of Cincinnati’s public schools require uniforms

[Solace]

95% of New Orleans’ public schools require uniforms
85% of Cleveland’s public schools require uniforms
80% of Chicago’s public schools require uniforms
65% of Boston’s public schools require uniforms
60% of Miami’s public schools require uniforms
50% of Cincinnati’s public schools require uniforms
You listed urban schools. City schools are completely different from rural and suburban schools. Most people who live in cities come from very low class African American families. You know, the 'hood.

[Solace]

We did a poll at my school to see how people would feel about school uniforms. Every single person said that they would hate it and it wouldn't work.

[razark]

:nope:
Kid, you're 18. You don't know everything, you just think you do. Things are a lot different in the real world than they are in the world in your head.

That's why we don't let 13-17 year olds vote and sign contracts.

[Solace]

:nope:
Kid, you're 18. You don't know everything, you just think you do. Things are a lot different in the real world than they are in the world in your head.

That's why we don't let 13-17 year olds vote and sign contracts.
But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

[Radtgaeb]

You listed urban schools. City schools are completely different from rural and suburban schools. Most people who live in cities come from very low class African American families. You know, the 'hood.


And how does this affect your argument/the arguments of anyone else?

[Solace]

And how does this affect your argument/the arguments of anyone else?
I'm just saying, you can't compare the poor to the middle and upper classes. Just like you can't compare the middle to the upper class.

[mookiemookie]

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

They'd pick your side for exactly the reason razark stated - they have no understanding of how the real world works.

[Solace]

They'd pick your side for exactly the reason razark stated - they have no understanding of how the real world works.
In the real world colleges don't require school uniforms. Your logic is flawed.

[Radtgaeb]

I'm just saying, you can't compare the poor to the middle and upper classes. Just like you can't compare the middle to the upper class.

:doh:

We're not talking about tax brackets, we're discussing uniform policy. Apples and oranges.

A student is a student is a student. Regardless of income bracket, teenagers are going to be teenagers. Distractions are distractions. Cliques are cliques. Geographic location/income differentials will play in the population count of each clique...but they're going to be there.

The advent of a uniform policy defends against the outward display of clique affiliation (being an intern in the police department of the city I attend college at, I think "gang affiliation"); cutting down on propensity for distraction in the form of scuffles or heated argument/verbal disagreements. It can also be argued that a uniform policy would protect against the possibility of teachers showing preference for upper-class students...the difference would be less obvious because everyone would be wearing the same clothes, same colors. Because, let's face it, most of us tend to think more highly of well-dressed individuals, no?

[mookiemookie]

In the real world colleges don't require school uniforms. Your logic is flawed.

In the real world you'd never have to worry about what colleges do or don't require if you believe high school is for "chillin with friends" instead of learning.

[Solace]

:doh:

We're not talking about tax brackets, we're discussing uniform policy. Apples and oranges.

A student is a student is a student. Regardless of income bracket, teenagers are going to be teenagers. Distractions are distractions. Cliques are cliques. Geographic location/income differentials will play in the population count of each clique...but they're going to be there.

The advent of a uniform policy defends against the outward display of clique affiliation (being an intern in the police department of the city I attend college at, I think "gang affiliation"); cutting down on propensity for distraction in the form of scuffles or heated argument/verbal disagreements. It can also be argued that a uniform policy would protect against the possibility of teachers showing preference for upper-class students...the difference would be less obvious because everyone would be wearing the same clothes, same colors. Because, let's face it, most of us tend to think more highly of well-dressed individuals, no?
The poor people have school uniforms usually because they can't afford clothing.

[Solace]

In the real world you'd never have to worry about what colleges do or don't require if you believe high school is for "chillin with friends" instead of learning.
Few things of value are learned from classes in high school.

[Radtgaeb]

The poor people have school uniforms usually because they can't afford clothing.

Nice attempt at the use of ethos/pathos. Unfortunately it's ineffective...don't use the suffering of others to mask your own interests.

[Solace]

Nice attempt at the use of ethos/pathos. Unfortunately it's ineffective...don't use the suffering of others to mask your own interests.
It's the truth. I learned in it fashion class at school. As you claim, things are learned. And apparently you think everything in school is right, so I'm using your own argument against you.

[Radtgaeb]

It's the truth. I learned in it fashion class at school. As you claim, things are learned. And apparently you think everything in school is right, so I'm using your own argument against you.



Please quote where I said "everything in school is right". Or where I implied that. I simply understand that academic forums are simply that...academic forums. We don't learn by having things spewed at us, we learn through discourse and rhetoric. Uniforms simply level the playing field of the forum. Those who can't hang will raise cane about it "killing the individual".

And I really don't care what you learned in fashion class. Neither should you since "few things of value" are learned through high school courses. And you tend to be arguing that "nothing in school is right" if you'll allow me to make assumptions as you have.

At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter if uniforms exist or not. I certainly HOPE that by the time I have kids and they're going to school, it's a fixture. If not, that's fine too. Those who want to learn will learn, those who don't will focus on the minutiae.

[mookiemookie]

Few things of value are learned from classes in high school.

Put that on your college application and see how far it gets you. Better yet, put it on your job application under the "Education" section and see how far that gets you.

[razark]

You want a really good laugh?

Print this thread out, or just save it on your computer, and look at it in 2, 5, and ten years.

[Radtgaeb]

Put that on your college application and see how far it gets you. Better yet, put it on your job application under the "Education" section and see how far that gets you.

:sign_yeah:

:salute:

[Krauter]

But we do let them join forums and so they can join and participate in this VERY DISCUSSION, and I can only imagine that they'd pick my side.

I'm 18 also, and reading the sh!t you're spewing makes me realize why most people on internet forums think teens are such angsty gits. Man get a grip on reality outside of your own little world and grow up.

Edit: And quit using double posts to get your post count up.. makes your trolling even more obvious. There's a edit function for a reason

[Takeda Shingen]

It's the truth. I learned in it fashion class at school. As you claim, things are learned. And apparently you think everything in school is right, so I'm using your own argument against you.

And you think that school is for chillin' and sex [with minors]. It is a perfect illustration of why China is the future, and why I was born in a first-world nation and will likely die in a third-world nation; all without ever going through a naturalization process.

[Penguin]

I speak English, German, Spanish, and I'm learning Lithuanian.

Please back up your claim. Care to translate this sentence into English?
Der Läufer stolperter über den Läufer im Gang.

If you can point out the spelling error, you'll get an extra point. If you don't answer I will assume that you are fake.

Cheers,
Penguin

[kranz]

the name's Destiny.
you're kidding, right?

[Takeda Shingen]

I don't think that's going to work, Penguin. I tested it on Babelfish and was able to find the spelling error immediately. The internet has put cheap online translators at the fingertips of the world. However, I share your skepticism of his professed aptitude for linguistics, especially in light of his stated attitude towards education.

[Solace]

Please quote where I said "everything in school is right". Or where I implied that. I simply understand that academic forums are simply that...academic forums. We don't learn by having things spewed at us, we learn through discourse and rhetoric. Uniforms simply level the playing field of the forum. Those who can't hang will raise cane about it "killing the individual".

And I really don't care what you learned in fashion class. Neither should you since "few things of value" are learned through high school courses. And you tend to be arguing that "nothing in school is right" if you'll allow me to make assumptions as you have.

At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter if uniforms exist or not. I certainly HOPE that by the time I have kids and they're going to school, it's a fixture. If not, that's fine too. Those who want to learn will learn, those who don't will focus on the minutiae.
It'll never be a fixture. It will never happen in America. Just like Communism will never happen in America.

[Solace]

I'm 18 also, and reading the sh!t you're spewing makes me realize why most people on internet forums think teens are such angsty gits. Man get a grip on reality outside of your own little world and grow up.

Edit: And quit using double posts to get your post count up.. makes your trolling even more obvious. There's a edit function for a reason
Most people on internet forums are teens. Just not on Subsim.

[Takeda Shingen]

Communism never happened anywhere.

[Solace]

And you think that school is for chillin' and sex [with minors]. It is a perfect illustration of why China is the future, and why I was born in a first-world nation and will likely die in a third-world nation; all without ever going through a naturalization process.
We'll always be a first world nation. Just because the rest of the world is slowly catching up to America, doesn't mean that America will become the next Rwanda.

[Solace]

Communism never happened anywhere.
Russian Communism did.

[Radtgaeb]

Can Godwin's law be invoked for Communism? If so, I think this discussion is over.

[Takeda Shingen]

We'll always be a first world nation. Just because the rest of the world is slowly catching up to America, doesn't mean that America will become the next Rwanda.

Remember that quote for the next 10 years. As you begin to understand the world around you, the error of that statement will become blatently evident.

[Takeda Shingen]

Russian Communism did.

No, that was called Socialism. There's a big difference.

[Dowly]

We'll always be a first world nation. Just because the rest of the world is slowly catching up to America, doesn't mean that America will become the next Rwanda.

Pure gold. :haha:

[razark]

Can Godwin's law be invoked for Communism? If so, I think this discussion is over.
I think that would be a bad idea. We wouldn't be able to have any discussions of American politics in General Topics.

[Penguin]

Please back up your claim. Care to translate this sentence into English?
Der Läufer stolperter über den Läufer im Gang.

If you can point out the spelling error, you'll get an extra point. If you don't answer I will assume that you are fake.

Cheers,
Penguin


Well?

[Radtgaeb]

We'll always be a first world nation. Just because the rest of the world is slowly catching up to America, doesn't mean that America will become the next Rwanda.

ORLY?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/12/07/131874081/u-s-students-again-trail-other-nations

[Takeda Shingen]

ORLY?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/12/07/131874081/u-s-students-again-trail-other-nations

Combine that with a non-existent economic recovery, the gutting of American heavy industry, the devaluation of American currency and rapid inflation, and you have a very ugly picture indeed. All the more so in the light that the attitude stated by the OP is now the norm for high school graduates.

[Radtgaeb]

Combine that with a non-existent economic recovery, the gutting of American heavy industry, the devaluation of American currency and rapid inflation, and you have a very ugly picture indeed. All the more so in the light that the attitude stated by the OP is now the norm for high school graduates.


Not to get off topic...but NAFTA was signed when I was 4...my entire life I've watched the life drain out of my county seat, which used to be a GM hub, with Delco at one time employing 80%-90% of the population. With one stroke of the pen we signed away our future. :down:

[frau kaleun]

Can Godwin's law be invoked for Communism? If so, I think this discussion is over.

You know, that's just the kind of commie pinko question they used to ask on internet forums in Nazi Germany.

[Penguin]

I'm 18 also, and reading the sh!t you're spewing makes me realize why most people on internet forums think teens are such angsty gits. Man get a grip on reality outside of your own little world and grow up.


Don't worry Krauter, I think most people can differ and judge someone by the words they say and by the things they have in their mind and brain, not by their physical age.

[Solace]

ORLY?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/12/07/131874081/u-s-students-again-trail-other-nations
We'll never go backwards. And it's not like we are going to stay the same technology wise. We'll always be advancing.

[Radtgaeb]

We'll never go backwards. And it's not like we are going to stay the same technology wise. We'll always be advancing.


No. Just no.

Other countries will advance technologically. We'll buy or inherit those technologies or ideas; but it's going to be a long time until America is once again an innovator. That's how the cookie crumbles. Nations rise and fall. We've been on top for 200 years, I'd say we've had a good run...but as I stated previously, we've signed away our producing power. All we have now is purchasing power, and that's the only thing that's keeping us safe. Once all the jobs are gone, we may not even have that.

[Solace]

No. Just no.

Other countries will advance technologically. We'll buy or inherit those technologies or ideas; but it's going to be a long time until America is once again an innovator. That's how the cookie crumbles. Nations rise and fall. We've been on top for 200 years, I'd say we've had a good run...but as I stated previously, we've signed away our producing power. All we have now is purchasing power, and that's the only thing that's keeping us safe. Once all the jobs are gone, we may not even have that.
But right now everything is American. Companies are American. Hollywood is American. The universal language is English. And the United States still dominates politics, military, culture, and the economy.

[Radtgaeb]

But right now everything is American. Companies are American. Hollywood is American. The universal language is English. And the United States still dominates politics, military, culture, and the economy.


I think that this isn't the proper place to discuss hegemony. This thread has gone on far longer than it needed to because of the dramatic shifts of topic. You want to continue this discussion, start a new thread in GT. Let me advise you that I think you're completely missing the point when it comes to what we have possessed as compared to what we possess now as compared to what we're going to possess in the future.

[Krauter]

But right now everything is American. Companies are American. Hollywood is American. The universal language is English. And the United States still dominates politics, military, culture, and the economy.

Uhh.. no.. Wow. What the hell kind of things are you learning in school? Oh wait, it's just for sex and chilling out with friends, my bad. Where I'm from, schools actually teach and students aren't a bunch of little dipsh!t knowitall teens.

Companies in America owe huge debt to overseas companies in Europe and Asia,

Hollywood is Hollywood, there will never really be any huge competitor (in my eyes, someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

Universal language right now is English but in the next 10-15 years bet your ass that the majority of the population on Earth will split their languages between Mandarin or Arabic.

Politics in the States right now are laughable, indeed politics in Canada are at the same state too :shifty:..

Militarily yeah sure I see the U.S on top for the next few decades merely for its leftover prowess from the Cold War. Sorry to say it but my prediction for how the American nation will end up is in a similar state to Russia today. To me, a superpower can only remain that when it has a competitor and the resources to remain so, after said competitor is gone, things start falling apart and eventually the nation will consume itself from the inside.

Economically. Kid, really? Have you looked to the East and seen how much debt China and Japan hold out on the U.S? That, and with India and China quickly rising to be the next superpowers, I don't think that the U.S is going to be near the top of the food chain economically.

Krauter

[Takeda Shingen]

Hollywood is Hollywood, there will never really be any huge competitor (in my eyes, someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

India is very much the future of the entertainment industry. Everything else you said is pretty much spot on.

I didn't know that you were 18. Let's hope that you can run all three branches of government, as well as the numerous cabinets and committees and the DoD by yourself. Otherwise, we're screwed.

[Krauter]

What is the name for the indian entertainment industry? Bollywood or something? :hmmm:

Edit: Seems Bollywood is just a piece of the larger indian entertainment industry

[Takeda Shingen]

Not to get off topic...but NAFTA was signed when I was 4...my entire life I've watched the life drain out of my county seat, which used to be a GM hub, with Delco at one time employing 80%-90% of the population. With one stroke of the pen we signed away our future. :down:

I understand completely. I was old enough to understand what was happening when I watched NAFTA drive the last nail in the coffin of Bethlehem Steel, a company that helped build some little known projects as the Empire State Building and the Golden Gate Bridge. That was a very sad day for America.

Now the old Bethlehem Steel Works is a friggin' casino. This isn't AC or Vegas, so people do not come to the Lehigh Valley to gamble. That casino preys on the community, leeching much more money from them than it ever returns in the way of employment figures.

[Takeda Shingen]

What is the name for the indian entertainment industry? Bollywood or something? :hmmm:

Edit: Seems Bollywood is just a piece of the larger indian entertainment industry

Yes, they use 'Bollywood' as a colloquialism as we do 'Hollywood'.

[Krauter]

Yes but according to Wiki, Bollywood is only one facet of the entire indian industry

[mookiemookie]

My personal favorite is Nollywood - the Nigerian film industry. They turn out film classics like "Baby Police": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yWjtSX7smI&feature=player_embedded

[Takeda Shingen]

Yes but according to Wiki, Bollywood is only one facet of the entire indian industry

Just like all film production does not take place within the confines of Hollywood.

[Krauter]

Forgive my ignorance :DL

[Takeda Shingen]

Forgive my ignorance :DL

Ignorance? Errors are how you learn. We need legions of young people such as you.

[Krauter]

One can only learn when one is open to criticism and feedback

[razark]

Ignorance? Errors are how you learn. We need legions of young people such as you.
Learning? Kids aren't supposed to be learning! They're supposed to be hanging out and having sex with adults and running the world.

[Penguin]

Wow, a fecesload of interesting topics derived from this troll's thread. :up:

ok, I try to adress some points:

Bolly-/Hollywood:

from the output of films they are both equal in amount, but for most of us who are raised in western culture the Bollywood productions look strange and unappealing. On a global scale I would just say that Hollywood productions just meet the taste of the masses - and have the biggest production and PR budget ;)
When we speak of Hollywood outside of the US we mean generally all big-budget productions from the States, regardless if they were shot in Berlin, Germany or Berlin, KY.
Yes, Hollywood dominates the global market, but in terms of quality I am a big fan of the independent cinema. USA, Scandinavia today, France, Italy, Japan in the 60s-80s.
Personally I think the most innovative moving pictures which come from the states are series productions of the cable networks, They have great authors and most important take the time to tell a story and don't shy off to touch controversial themes.


the decline of the heavy industry
The region where I was raised was also dominated by the heavy industry. It went down in the 80s till the 00's. Sadly it never fully recovered from it's decline. I must add that our tertiary sector (service industry) was much lower in terms of percentages than in North America, but anyway it was not able to replace all the lost jobs. So I cannot give away muich hope here...:cry:

next: the dumbing down of the people/pupils (us:students :03:) - gotta grab some food and a beer first :cool:

[Krauter]

Learning? Kids aren't supposed to be learning! They're supposed to be hanging out and having sex with adults and running the world.

Don't forget Chilling with friends! And being Independent. EVERYONE must be independent.. Wait..

[razark]

EVERYONE must be independent..
YES! We must all be independent together!

Edit:
(And if you're not like us, then you're just being one of them conformist sheep!)

[Krauter]

Exactly, because who wants to be the same as everyone else!? We're all different. See I'm a Jock but he's just a wannabee Jock

[Penguin]

Brian: "You are all individuals"

masses: "Yes, we are all indivuals!"

single voice: "Not me!"

[Krauter]

Brian: "You are all individuals"

masses: "Yes, we are all indivuals!"

single voice: "Not me!"

:rotfl2:

[Solace]

Uhh.. no.. Wow. What the hell kind of things are you learning in school? Oh wait, it's just for sex and chilling out with friends, my bad. Where I'm from, schools actually teach and students aren't a bunch of little dipsh!t knowitall teens.

Companies in America owe huge debt to overseas companies in Europe and Asia,

Hollywood is Hollywood, there will never really be any huge competitor (in my eyes, someone please correct me if I'm wrong).

Universal language right now is English but in the next 10-15 years bet your ass that the majority of the population on Earth will split their languages between Mandarin or Arabic.

Politics in the States right now are laughable, indeed politics in Canada are at the same state too :shifty:..

Militarily yeah sure I see the U.S on top for the next few decades merely for its leftover prowess from the Cold War. Sorry to say it but my prediction for how the American nation will end up is in a similar state to Russia today. To me, a superpower can only remain that when it has a competitor and the resources to remain so, after said competitor is gone, things start falling apart and eventually the nation will consume itself from the inside.

Economically. Kid, really? Have you looked to the East and seen how much debt China and Japan hold out on the U.S? That, and with India and China quickly rising to be the next superpowers, I don't think that the U.S is going to be near the top of the food chain economically.

Krauter
The USD is the international dollar used by the United Nations and other international organizations.

[Solace]

Also, whenever you sign up for a forum or website, and it has a drop-down box of countries to choose from, United States of America is pretty much always the first option, and then it goes alphabetically after USA.

[Takeda Shingen]

http://www.asia.ru/images/target/photo/50259935/Shovel.jpg

[Solace]

We need legions of young people such as you.
Thanks.

[Sailor Steve]

Most people on internet forums are teens. Just not on Subsim.
But this is Subsim, not the rest of the internet. Here we have some fun, but mostly try to comport ourselves as adults. You say you are 18, yet you post like the 13-year-olds you lust after. Krauter also says he is 18, yet I would have thought him in his mid-twenties at least.

The image you project is everything. Yours needs a lot of improvement.

[Takeda Shingen]

Thanks.

I said young people, not illiterate pedophiles.

[Solace]

Brian: "You are all individuals"

masses: "Yes, we are all indivuals!"

single voice: "Not me!"
Nice.

[Solace]

I said young people, not illiterate pedophiles.
Privateer's daughter
http://www.shirt-fight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/id-tap-that.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

Preserved for review.

Privateer's daughter
http://www.shirt-fight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/id-tap-that.jpg

[Krauter]

http://www.asia.ru/images/target/photo/50259935/Shovel.jpg

Are we using that to bury this thread or the OP?

Edit: I can assure you, when privateer sees this your not going to want to stay in one place for too long.

And thank you for the compliment Steve.

[frau kaleun]

http://www.jimadler.com/newsandviews/images/hammer_time.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

Are we using that to bury this thread or the OP?

Edit: I can assure you, when privateer sees this your not going to want to stay in one place for too long.

It was originally for the OP to dig himself out of the hole, but after his last post, I don't see that happening.

Oh, and I'd worry a whole lot more about what will happen when Neal sees it.

http://oi29.tinypic.com/5xo490.jpg

[Krauter]

That too, I can see it now..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nrCvjg6nsI

[I-25]

http://officespam.chattablogs.com/archives/Computer-Error-Your-Screwed.jpg

[Onkel Neal]

Privateer's daughter
http://www.shirt-fight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/id-tap-that.jpg

No, you should not bring young children into an arguement, especially in that context. After this and the whole "dating 13 years olds" comment, your account is being reviewed.

[Onkel Neal]

Review concluded. Hard to believe some of the stuff I read. Oh yeah, this is the internet. :nope: