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GoldenRivet
11-29-10, 10:16 AM
and no...

its not that stupid CGI one either!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaU9PnXU1Pc&feature=player_embedded#

this man's BRS paid for itself in full!:o

TLAM Strike
11-29-10, 10:21 AM
In Soviet Russia airplane hits the silk...

:O:

Penguin
11-29-10, 11:19 AM
:o lucky guy if he only burned his feet!

what is it the black thing with the red fabric that flies from the plane shortly before the parachute launches? (around 17 secs) Is it the roof of the plane or the initial parachute?

gimpy117
11-29-10, 11:33 AM
i would be a drouge chute to pull out the main

GoldenRivet
11-29-10, 11:37 AM
i would be a drouge chute to pull out the main

it would be a small rocket, which pulls out a drogue chute which pulls out the main canopy

SteamWake
11-29-10, 11:37 AM
:o lucky guy if he only burned his feet!

what is it the black thing with the red fabric that flies from the plane shortly before the parachute launches? (around 17 secs) Is it the roof of the plane or the initial parachute?

Its the 'drouge chute' of sorts. It appears to be a projectile with a sleeve that is 'shot' out and pulls the main chute out of its storage. The main chute is packed into the sleeve and only fills once the sleeve is slipped off.

By the way.. yea thats about exactly how I would expect a plane to react after shearing off a wing.

What gets me is it was not exactly under heavy stress when it failed. Negative stress yest but not like he was 'yanking it'.

AVGWarhawk
11-29-10, 11:38 AM
The chute sure did put the plane down gently!

GoldenRivet
11-29-10, 11:41 AM
well though he may have been under a relatively low load... i think back to the wing spar problems they had with the T6 a few years back which required inspection / replacement.

years of aerobatics and high G maneuvering could cause catastrophic structural failure during relatively low stress maneuvers.

think of a paper clip... bend it until it is straight. Now "overstress" it by bending it in half.

notice it doesnt break?

now do it again.

same result.

do it 20 more times

on that 21st bend, before you even get it bent very far... SNAP

same concept

Penguin
11-29-10, 11:44 AM
Thanks for the answer(s), guys! Learned a new word today: drouge chute (english) = intitial chute (pengunish) :DL



By the way.. yea thats about exactly how I would expect a plane to react after shearing off a wing.


I have seen footage from WW2 gun cams, where the plane has exactly the same behaviour after a wing is shut down.

GoldenRivet
11-29-10, 11:49 AM
when an airplane loses a wing, all of the lift is now developed solely on one side. thus it will generally roll uncontrollably toward the missing wing. just as we see in the video.




that is why this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y90vnB6gUME&feature=related) is BS... the plane does the exact opposite of what physics demands that it should do.

Tonga
11-29-10, 11:51 AM
From the video's description:

The pilot was strapped into his seat when he pulled his parachuteNasty little detail, thank god the video proves otherwise.

SteamWake
11-29-10, 11:55 AM
well though he may have been under a relatively low load... i think back to the wing spar problems they had with the T6 a few years back which required inspection / replacement.

years of aerobatics and high G maneuvering could cause catastrophic structural failure during relatively low stress maneuvers.

think of a paper clip... bend it until it is straight. Now "overstress" it by bending it in half.

notice it doesnt break?

now do it again.

same result.

do it 20 more times

on that 21st bend, before you even get it bent very far... SNAP

same concept

You would think that this would be looked for under very close scrutiny just due to the nature of the planes service life.

But then again stuff happens.

GoldenRivet
11-29-10, 12:00 PM
Im sure it is something they inspect.

they have methods of detecting hairline fractures in the metal - though im sure it is very expensive.

but even the best inspection can miss something. ;)

Tchocky
11-29-10, 12:02 PM
Couple of ways to find those cracks - magnetic field measurement, X-ray, boroscope. But yes, very expensive and rare, I imagine, for small private aircraft.

Looks like an Extra 300?

GoldenRivet
11-29-10, 12:02 PM
From the video's description:

The pilot was strapped into his seat when he pulled his parachute

The video is obviously mistaken. :D

If the pilot pulled his chute while strapped in the chute would have had nowhere to go. no air to catch it. and would have been too small to adequately slow the decent of the aircraft.

TLAM Strike
11-29-10, 12:18 PM
Looks like an Extra 300? A quick Google search says its something called a "RANS S-9 Chaos"

GoldenRivet
11-29-10, 12:21 PM
http://www.rans.com/images/s9-7450.jpg

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-011.gif

Platapus
11-29-10, 07:11 PM
I wonder how many people go to airshows just to see stuff like this? :yep:

Very glad it had a happy ending.

SteamWake
11-29-10, 10:29 PM
http://www.rans.com/images/s9-7450.jpg

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/wuerg/vomit-smiley-011.gif


LOL no wonder it folded :haha:

The Third Man
11-29-10, 10:35 PM
I wonder how many people go to airshows just to see stuff like this? :yep:

Very glad it had a happy ending.

This isn't NASCAR or M1. I suspect very few go to see crashes.

XabbaRus
11-30-10, 03:47 PM
MPI inspection is probably the cheapest way to detect stresses.

MPI by the way stands for Magnetic Particle Inspection for those who don't know.

As for teh landing with one wing if it isn't an animation I think it is a large radio controlled plane.

GoldenRivet
11-30-10, 04:15 PM
As for teh landing with one wing if it isn't an animation I think it is a large radio controlled plane.

its animation.

I would think it would be even harder to land an RC plane with an entire wing missing.

Gargamel
11-30-10, 11:51 PM
its animation.

I would think it would be even harder to land an RC plane with an entire wing missing.

I bet you could design some sort of hybrid wing that would allow for positive lift, with just enough negative lift out on the tip to reduce the roll. Maybe not, just an idea. Make a model airplane with similar wings, but one can break away on command. LIttle practice and it could be done.

But yeah that video is bunk. The audio "Where's his right wing?" really shows its an act, I mean his right wing was flahsing across the view finder..... And then when it did break off, it did just that, it looked released. It didnt look like it folded.

GoldenRivet
11-30-10, 11:53 PM
not to mention the wing in the CGI video broke clean off during a period of time when the wing which departed the aircraft was under relatively low loading.