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Fauzt
11-05-10, 08:50 AM
http://media.englishrussia.com/bears_submarine/3.jpg
http://media.englishrussia.com/bears_submarine/2.jpg

Oh, and is it normal for a sub to dump its waste at Sea?

Herr-Berbunch
11-05-10, 09:08 AM
Good pics.

Sadly, vessels can dispose of their crap at sea, but there are regulations on what and where. :nope:

Good practice for military vessels is to keep and compact waste for disposal on shore - which the RN claim to do, not sure about anybody else. :yep:

Edit: Here is the RN way http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/training-and-people/rn-life/rn-and-the-environment/on-board-ship/

TLAM Strike
11-05-10, 09:26 AM
There was a time not too long ago where the Russian Military dumped far worse things at sea.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9389/61f35.jpg

That's a Project 1783A Vala class YRR ("Radiological Repair Barge") its mission was to store liquid nuclear waste and dump it at sea after she filled up her tanks.

International pressure in the early 1990s put an end to that. Now the ships just sit there filled with nuclear waste.

Funny Greenpeace protests our navy for having potential nuclear disasters while they don't seem to bother much with the Russians and their actual nuclear disasters... :shifty:

Platapus
11-05-10, 10:04 AM
Funny Greenpeace protests our navy for having potential nuclear disasters while they don't seem to bother much with the Russians and their actual nuclear disasters... :shifty:

Perhaps because you get your information from the American press and not from research?

http://archive.greenpeace.org/odumping/radioactive/reports/history.html

http://www1.american.edu/ted/arctic.htm

Greenpeace has been protesting ocean dumping of nuclear waste by the Russians since the 1970's.

Just because the American press only reports greenpeace stuff that affects America or our friends, does not mean that greenpeace is not protesting other countries

ETR3(SS)
11-05-10, 11:47 AM
Like it was said already it is normal to dump your trash at sea. I don't know how the Russians do it but if the picture is any indication it's no wonder we could track them anywhere.:doh: On my boat we didn't have room for 90 days worth of trash. So it got loaded into a steel can, weighted down, and shot out the bottom of the boat to sink to the bottom of the ocean. However if we knew we were going to be pulling into a port in the next few days we would hold the trash and offload it when we pulled in.

Platapus
11-05-10, 03:09 PM
So it got loaded into a steel can, weighted down, and shot out the bottom of the boat to sink to the bottom of the ocean.

Was this a special tube only used for trash or was it also used for something else?

ETR3(SS)
11-05-10, 03:25 PM
Was this a special tube only used for trash or was it also used for something else?Trash only. It was a vertical tube that came out the bottom of the boat.

Platapus
11-05-10, 03:29 PM
This is interesting. :salute:

These types of logistics fascinate me.

Oberon
11-05-10, 03:49 PM
Don't they compress the trash down into a flat disk?

ETR3(SS)
11-05-10, 04:09 PM
Trash is separated into two categories, wet and dry. Dry trash gets compacted with a trash compactor. Wet trash does not get compacted as the end result is extremely messy. Wet trash is using plate scrapings from the last meal and doesn't do to well under 3000lbs hydraulics.

Diopos
11-05-10, 04:14 PM
Can't stop thinking that it would much more disturbing if the trash wasn't from the sub!

Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch)

:hmmm:

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Fauzt
11-05-10, 07:08 PM
Thanks for the info. guys, very interresting. :up:
Some of it were bread thrown overboard by the sailors to lure the polar bear closer, but not all was just bread apparently.
http://media.englishrussia.com/bears_submarine/5.jpg

Jimbuna
11-05-10, 07:42 PM
Sometimes it becomea a family occasion

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Polar_bears_near_north_pole.jpg

Other times they get annoyed and want to fight the intruder

http://aphrabehn.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/bear_sub2.jpg?w=500

If your really lucky they'll dance for you

http://cdn.wn.com/pd/64/52/66b663af1a7c993abc9767de4593_grande.jpg

Platapus
11-05-10, 08:51 PM
Look at the cute bears!!

(Awesome, it appears that not only are the Russians but also the general public is not aware of the CIA's Secret Polar Bear Arctic Infiltration Suit. The collection of information on the subs continues...)

Jimbuna
11-06-10, 04:49 PM
LOL :DL