New WW2 Bomber Combat Flight Sim?

[GoldenRivet]

http://simflight.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/B17.jpg

* Based on the engine for Microsoft Flight Simulator.

* Choose from numerous variants of the B-17 from 1941-45

* over 100 different squadrons with unique markings and insignia

* over 2,500 unique and convincing damage and disintegration models

* Realistic and engaging briefings with AI crew asking questions and raising points about the upcoming raid make you feel as if you're really there.

* Try to survive 25 heart stopping missions through heavy flack and swarms of enemy fighters in the single campaign or play with up to ten of your friends in the multiplayer campaign.

* Train in either Pilot, Bombardier, or various Gunner positions and perfect your skills in the heat of combat.

* Engaging story line and cut scenes tell the tale of your crew's transformation from nervous rookies to battle hardened veterans

* Fully rendered 3D interior first person view allows you to walk from nose to tail of the bomber and witness the action first hand as you render first aid to other crew members, fight fires, gather ammunition, operate vital systems manually or even bail out of your crippled aircraft through an emergency hatch.

* Fly with massive armadas consisting of up to 100 B-17s as you complete realistic and historically accurate missions into occupied Europe from bases in England and North Africa.







If such a game existed... would you be interested?:hmmm:

[mookiemookie]

If such a game existed... would you be interested?:hmmm:


Well DUUUUH! :yeah:

[GoldenRivet]

thats what im screamin' yet the only dedicated example we have is Microprose's B-17 The Mighty Eighth circa 2000

Its been over 10 freakin years man!

and when i have this (http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/a/accu-sim_for_the_wings_of_power_ii-_b-17_patch-393773-1281512220.jpeg)on MSFS... this (http://www.spacejock.com.au/images/b17.jpg)dont cut it.

sure there are mods for combat flight sim, and pacific fighters etc that let you fly a B-17...

but what about something on the microprose scale... the Silent Hunter 3 with GWX of the B-17 simulator world?

what gives ? :haha:

[tater]

I want full-sized missions. Not just 100. You can do that in il-2 right now sorta.

[krashkart]

I'd definitely buy a sim like that, especially if it could be expanded to include (at the very least) Lancasters and Libby's. :yep:

[gimpy117]

http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=14372

rise of flight is getting bombers :up:

[razark]

thats what im screamin' yet the only dedicated example we have is Microprose's B-17 The Mighty Eighth circa 2000
I had the predecessor to that one, B-17 Flying Fortress.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/B17I3.jpg
The Mighty Eighth would be a step up, but I've never tried it. I still have the original running on DOSBox, and I'm still waiting for a worthy followup. Just as long as it has random missions, and not the same 25 every time I play, I'll sign up.

Are you going to post a new thread when you release it?

[GoldenRivet]

I had the predecessor to that one, B-17 Flying Fortress.

I almost purchased that but spent my milk money on something else.

Milk i think it was. :hmmm:

at any rate.

I enjoy B-17 the mighty eighth, its a good game overall. But...

the graphics are terrible (after all it is 10 years old)

you never have more than like... 16 B-17s on screen.

the sound is easily messed up.

a good copy is hard to find.

you only get the one paint scheme despite the ability to select from several different bomb groups and squadrons.

lack of multiplayer is a real bummer.

but there is a fun quality about the game in general.

basically i think if they revamped the B-17 series like they did between SH2 and SH3 youd have a hell of a fun game on your hands.

[Blood_splat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcaEdnFLb1U :up:

[krashkart]

^^ :o:rotfl2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=741_jmeRtv8

(featuring impersonated Winston Churchill)

[GoldenRivet]

that was one of the first video games i ever remember playing to be honest.

B-17 bomber along with:

Night Stalker
Frog Bog
Armor battle
Astrosmash
Sub Hunt
Space Spartans
White Water Rapids
Beauty and the Beast

there were several others.

Night Stalker would be cool... modernized into a 1st person shooter somehow.

I remember when i was like 5 years old my dad was playing B-17 and i was watching. The phone rang and he set the remote down. "I have one bomb left, dont drop it! Dont touch anything ill be right back."

he came back a couple of minutes later minus one bomb

he was like "You dropped my bomb!"

LMAO HAHAHA

[krashkart]

There are three games I remember playing on Atari:

Centipede (of course)
Second was some kind of adventure game, and the third game you had to defend an underwater city from some sort of spaceships.

I also remember borrowing Spitfire from a friend. It was lame even for its time.

I'd like to see Centipede modernized as an FPS, but instead of shooting at the centipedes, you have have to fend them off with a Whiffle bat. (Or a waffle iron) :yeah:


I think this B-17 sim should definitely come with a campaign editor and templates for the nose art, GR. :yep:

[TarJak]

If such a game existed... would you be interested?:hmmm: Of course as long as the gameplay was engaging enough. :yeah:

[Rilder]

* Try to survive 25 heart stopping missions through heavy flack and swarms of enemy fighters in the single campaign

* Engaging story line and cut scenes tell the tale of your crew's transformation from nervous rookies to battle hardened veterans

Nope wouldn't play it.

Don't do linear storyline games, waste of money for me.

[HunterICX]

If such a game existed... would you be interested?:hmmm:

Nope,

it lacks B-24's, B-25's and lets not forget the RAF Bombers like the Halifax, Lancaster etc.

drop the storyline, just give me a campaign system like the one in BoBII:WoV

Then I'm Game :yeah:

HunterICX

[Raptor1]

Nope,

it lacks B-24's, B-25's and lets not forget the RAF Bombers like the Halifax, Lancaster etc.

drop the storyline, just give me a campaign system like the one in BoBII:WoV

Then I'm Game :yeah:

HunterICX

+1

A bomber sim with all the relevant planes and a 12 O'Clock High-esque campaign engine, that would be...awesome...

[joegrundman]

bah nonsense! Everyone knows Britain wasn't in ww2

[GoldenRivet]

And that's where the problems start. People want to be ably to fly every single bomber type there was, so instead of a highly detailed, historically accurate true simulator that focuses every detail on one type right down to the last switch you end up getting something more and more arcade as you add flyable types.

I'm all for including B-24s and B-25s and Lancasters... But if such planes are included the have to be historically accurate in their operation.

As far as a linear campaign of 25 missions... Why couldn't it be dynamic? There would literally be hundreds of factories, plants, airfields, rail yards, bridges etc to bomb in theory. And with nearly any start year the campaigns would differ a bit each time you played.

I chose 25 missions simply because that's how many a B-17 crew was required to complete (late war was 35).

[Oberon]

I imagine that any game made along these lines would probably just start with the B-17 and then DLC in other bombers.

The Accu-sim B-17 looks an absolute beauty though, she's one I've been eying up for a loooong time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsPjn1L0elw

But yes, yes I would play a sequel to The Mighty Eighth, although I never got to play the original sadly. RAF Bombers on night missions would be nice too.

[GoldenRivet]

The newest accusim b-17 is amazing. From start up to shut down.

A2A needs to start making it's own sims. If I had to tap a company for such a game it would be them.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Acusim is fantastic! :up::up:
I still have my Mighty 8th disc. The grapics for then were nice but for these days not that great.

[TLAM Strike]

Needs more than B-17. At a minimum the B-24, 25 and 26. The Brits (Blenheim, Halifax, Lancaster) and the B-29 (for the pacific) would be very good but more of a bonus.

Needs to have a dynamic campaign like MiG Alley or Falcon.

Needs to have SP/MP support for smaller escorting aircraft much like MiG Alley where players could fly the CAP, Escort, or Flak Suppression missions for the bombing raids. Could add pathfinder mission for the RAF.

Missions other than bombing. Maritime patrol and glider towing come to mind.

[Raptor1]

I think the necessary flyable planes for a strategic bombing campaign set in Europe would be the B-17, B-24, Halifax and Lancaster. Other planes that participated would be nice, of course.

[SteamWake]

I'm pretty sure that there was a hyper realisim B17 third party add on for MSFS. Saw it on some demo CD somewhere.

But I dont think it had any missions involved.

I'll go look and see if I can find it.

Here it is...

http://www.a2asimulations.com/store/b17/

[Buddahaid]

And that's where the problems start. People want to be ably to fly every single bomber type there was, so instead of a highly detailed, historically accurate true simulator that focuses every detail on one type right down to the last switch you end up getting something more and more arcade as you add flyable types.

I'm all for including B-24s and B-25s and Lancasters... But if such planes are included the have to be historically accurate in their operation.

As far as a linear campaign of 25 missions... Why couldn't it be dynamic? There would literally be hundreds of factories, plants, airfields, rail yards, bridges etc to bomb in theory. And with nearly any start year the campaigns would differ a bit each time you played.

I chose 25 missions simply because that's how many a B-17 crew was required to complete (late war was 35).

US daylight bombing would be great, but the British night time saturation bombing would likely be boring. Now, low level Boomerang (Mosquito) raids on German ship yards would be more my style.

The 25 mission campaign idea is fine if it was selectable as historical or randomized. I'm half in love with some scripting to the historical campaign to reflect actual main battle points, as in when fighters appear, new fighters types arrive, changes in defense measures, smoke screens over target areas, etc.

[GoldenRivet]

I'm pretty sure that there was a hyper realisim B17 third party add on for MSFS. Saw it on some demo CD somewhere.

But I dont think it had any missions involved.

I'll go look and see if I can find it.

Here it is...

http://www.a2asimulations.com/store/b17/

Yes thats what we were discussing earlier... i have that for MSFS. However, that is simply the aircraft.

you load up in a B-17 and go free flying.

no shooting - no missions etc

[GoldenRivet]

Another great production from the folks at A2A simulations is the Accusim Piper Cub.

right down to hand propping... its awesome.:yeah: