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Gerald

11-02-10, 09:49 AM

David Cameron has said new treaties on defence and nuclear co-operation with France marked a "new chapter" in a long history of defence cooperation.Speaking alongside French President Nicolas Sarkozy, the UK PM said it would make both countries' citizens safer and would save money.

A centre will be set up in the UK to develop nuclear testing technology and another in France to carry it out.

The leaders also confirmed plans for a joint army expeditionary force.

After both leaders signed the two treaties, Mr Cameron said: "Today we open a new chapter in a long history of co-operation on defence and security between Britain and France."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247

Note:2 November 2010 Last updated at 13:54 GMT

plymouth

11-02-10, 09:55 AM

first he abandons all our defences now he is leaving all our security up to the french!! I expected more from a tory

Herr-Berbunch

11-02-10, 10:03 AM

The French are one of the few nations in Europe that I've not served alongside, however, if their low-flying footage on youtube is anything to go by then the pilots, if no-one else, have balls... :yep:

Maybe it'll work fine :hmmm: Maybe we needed this years ago so Bliar wouldn't have been herded into Iraq.

Or maybe it'll all go to the chiens :nope:

Jimbuna

11-02-10, 10:12 AM

first he abandons all our defences now he is leaving all our security up to the french!! I expected more from a tory

The French are one of the few nations in Europe that I've not served alongside, however, if their low-flying footage on youtube is anything to go by then the pilots, if no-one else, have balls... :yep:

Maybe it'll work fine :hmmm: Maybe we needed this years ago so Bliar wouldn't have been herded into Iraq.

Or maybe it'll all go to the chiens :nope:

The French eh? :hmmm:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

Gerald

11-02-10, 10:51 AM

Interesting link, :yep:

Oberon

11-02-10, 11:00 AM

My money is on the chiens.

Still, since we don't really have much of a military any more it's either this or wait for the Americans to bail us out, which they won't until at least after 2012. :hmmm:

Herr-Berbunch

11-02-10, 11:12 AM

The French eh? :hmmm:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.html

Fantastic read, thanks Jim. What I wrote was all maybes - I didn't say it was a good thing... :oops:

Oberon

11-02-10, 11:21 AM

Fantastic read, thanks Jim. What I wrote was all maybes - I didn't say it was a good thing... :oops:

:haha: Well, I gotta admit though, their air force do make some fantastic youtube vids, my favourite is Le Mirage du Tchad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WqT3mAjapU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ROyuL_S8ZY

Herr-Berbunch

11-02-10, 11:41 AM

:haha: Well, I gotta admit though, their air force do make some fantastic youtube vids, my favourite is Le Mirage du Tchad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WqT3mAjapU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ROyuL_S8ZY

Yeah, they're good.

I've seen a 'private' video compiled by Herc crews and it features some footage from a Red Flag exercise from an American AA crew and it's so low they're really struggling to get a lock on it - they don't!

I'll see my friend and see if I can get a copy! (he was extremely reluctant a few years ago)

Jimbuna

11-02-10, 01:00 PM

Yeah, they're good.

I've seen a 'private' video compiled by Herc crews and it features some footage from a Red Flag exercise from an American AA crew and it's so low they're really struggling to get a lock on it - they don't!

I'll see my friend and see if I can get a copy! (he was extremely reluctant a few years ago)

Pity you didn't get a look at the unedited version...they crashed :O:

XabbaRus

11-02-10, 04:17 PM

I don't see such a big deal.

Makes sense given the economic climate.

Gerald

11-02-10, 04:53 PM

Certainly, one deals like this is both good and bad...

TheSatyr

11-03-10, 12:35 AM

I do have one question though. If Argentina were to make another grab for the Falklands would the UK have to ask France's permission to defend them???

bookworm_020

11-03-10, 03:03 AM

With the french defending the UK your bound to loose now!:damn:

The new British defense weapon!

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/britains-greater-unwashed-20101102-17bx3.html

Herr-Berbunch

11-03-10, 03:19 AM

I do have one question though. If Argentina were to make another grab for the Falklands would the UK have to ask France's permission to defend them???

No, because we still have Soveriegn rights, just. But the French would still try and sell weaponry to the Argies, just like last time! :nope:

papa_smurf

11-03-10, 05:29 AM

If we now have to share carriers, does that mean they will on a rota? So that means we can only got to war when its our turn with a carrier:haha:

XabbaRus

11-03-10, 06:04 AM

No, because we still have Soveriegn rights, just. But the French would still try and sell weaponry to the Argies, just like last time! :nope:

Actually the French refused to sell any spare parts to the argies or anymore exocets to replace those that were used.

They also did DACT with our pilots so they knew what the Mirage was capable of.

sorry but in that case the French are infairly given a bad rap. They helped us politically in ways that the US politicians didn't.

You have to remember that in terms of overseas possesions the French take on the Falklands is remarkably similar to ours.

Jimbuna

11-03-10, 10:39 AM

With the french defending the UK your bound to loose now!:damn:

The new British defense weapon!

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/beauty/britains-greater-unwashed-20101102-17bx3.html

Looks like we're trailing behind you :O:

(These figures place the UK behind Australia, Mexico and France in the personal hygiene stakes.)

I do hope we're upwind of you :DL