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SteamWake

10-31-10, 08:45 AM

The US president will make a historic trip to the Taj Mahal along with his family. His visit is historic in terms of logistics which is the largest ever for a visiting US president

40 aircraft !! :o

What I dont see in this story is... why?

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/117956/LATEST%20HEADLINES/taj-trip-included-in-barack-obamas-itinerary.html

Gerald

10-31-10, 08:53 AM

Can he afford to leave the country, when the situation is that there is...:hmmm:

tater

10-31-10, 09:10 AM

"What, me? Wasn't MY fault Tuesday, I was all the way in freakin' INDIA!"

JokerOfFate

10-31-10, 10:02 AM

"There will be six armoured cars, including the Barack Mobile, a Cadillac."

The Barack mobile really thats what they're going to call it. :har:

STEED

10-31-10, 01:23 PM

I think hes been tipped off about a bloody good golf course over there in India. :hmmm:

Happy Times

10-31-10, 01:28 PM

Because India cant guarantee the safety for his visit in anyway.
He could be attacked by a company of terrorist with heavy weapons and massive bombs.

Buddahaid

10-31-10, 04:10 PM

Well, I'm sure ol' "mission accomplished" would have hitch-hiked his way there and John Wayne toughed it out. :haha: But seriously, I don't think he is in control of the security arrangements.

Platapus

10-31-10, 07:40 PM

People have little understanding of the logistics involved in the movement of the President. It is not like these aircraft as used solely to carry the POTUS' luggage.

I would say that at least 10 of those aircraft are just for WHCA to handle the coms.

Depending on the threat, 40 might be a little low. :yep:

yubba

10-31-10, 08:50 PM

Because India cant guarantee the safety for his visit in anyway.
He could be attacked by a company of terrorist with heavy weapons and massive bombs.
Terrorist aren't going to harm their secret weapon he's done more damage than they have, I say let him go, and not let him back in the country unless he's got 3 forms of I.D. Birth Certificate first and formost.:rotfl2:If terrorist kill him over there it would save some poor schlub jail time over here. Gee hope Bite Me goes with him. Yea Pelosi too.

the_tyrant

10-31-10, 09:11 PM

Terrorist aren't going to harm their secret weapon he's done more damage than they have, I say let him go, and not let him back in the country unless he's got 3 forms of I.D. Birth Certificate first and formost.:rotfl2:If terrorist kill him over there it would save some poor schlub jail time over here. Gee hope Bite Me goes with him. Yea Pelosi too.

come on, obama was't that bad

antikristuseke

11-01-10, 05:01 AM

Birth Certificate first and formost

http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0912/permanent-facepalm-facepalm-fail-pigeon-demotivational-poster-1260284257.jpg

papa_smurf

11-01-10, 05:50 AM

I'd hate to think what his carbon footprint is.

Because India cant guarantee the safety for his visit in anyway.
He could be attacked by a company of terrorist with heavy weapons and massive bombs.

He could always buy a couple of these from us if he's feeling at bit insecure in his "Obama-mobile"
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZKGqJpj9NNL5hHg0af9A3dPZ7X4e_D JbToNgYXVdd7ZKZmB4&t=1&usg=__zUq9wzuwRy6nvi7-1pB-YIjbE4E=

Skybird

11-01-10, 06:13 AM

I sprayed my tea when reading the headline! :haha:

SteamWake

11-01-10, 08:44 AM

People have little understanding of the logistics involved in the movement of the President.

What I have an understanding of is that Mr. Obama and his family are off on the largest mobilization of security forces for a presidential visit ever.

At a time of record deficits and financial hardships for many the family goes off on a record setting romp in India.

But what I dont understand is why?

Yup the logistics are a bitch and very very expensive but what is the freaking point of this trip? Why does it have to be so large? One has to wonder if he plans to come back. :haha:

Try to spin this as you feel but it looks bad from any angle.

Happy Times

11-01-10, 10:27 AM

What I have an understanding of is that Mr. Obama and his family are off on the largest mobilization of security forces for a presidential visit ever.

At a time of record deficits and financial hardships for many the family goes off on a record setting romp in India.

But what I dont understand is why?

Yup the logistics are a bitch and very very expensive but what is the freaking point of this trip? Why does it have to be so large? One has to wonder if he plans to come back. :haha:

Try to spin this as you feel but it looks bad from any angle.

India is hoped to come the main ally of the West in Asia, counter balance to all directions. I remain little sceptic of its true value outside economic ties. Strategic partnership is a good concept but India has structural problems of vast scale that it needs to address to live to its potential. These are mostly culturally rooted issues that hinder the development of the country.

SteamWake

11-01-10, 10:38 AM

India is hoped to come the main ally of the West in Asia, counter balance to all directions. I remain little sceptic of its true value outside economic ties. Strategic partnership is a good concept but India has structural problems of vast scale that it needs to address to live to its potential. These are mostly culturally rooted issues that hinder the development of the country.

Isnt this the secratary of states job?

Takeda Shingen

11-01-10, 10:54 AM

Isnt this the secratary of states job?

When your Secretary of State is one of your major political rivals, you probably do the heavy lifting yourself. Besides, isn't this an official State Visit? You can't really send the SecState on one of those.

The media is quiet about the matter, but a bunch of you guys are up in arms. If it were the previous president, this would have been reversed, with the media up in arms and a bunch of you guys saying that India is a critical economic parnter and supporter in the War on Terror, and that terrorist action in India warranted additional security.

It's all politics.

Oberon

11-01-10, 11:03 AM

I remember seeing what I can only presume was Air Force One heading over to Europe once. The reasoning behind this? Well, it was a BIG air convoy, two AWACs, three standard jetliners and one jumbo as well as about 8-12 fighters. I wondered what the hell was going on, and then later that day Dubya appears at a meeting somewhere in Europe, I think it was a G8 summit or the like. Quite the sight it was, obviously it was too far away for me to be sure that it was AF1, but it's not particularly usual that we get such formations over our way, the odd Herky bird yes, but not an air convoy. Come to think of it though, they probably routed this way so that they could put up a couple of tankers from Mildenhall.
So yeah, it's quite the logistical feat to transport one guy. Arguably one of the most important people in half the globe but yes, one bloke.

What is he doing there? Perhaps outsourcing Congress to New Delhi before the election results come in. :hmmm:

yubba

11-01-10, 12:31 PM

come on, obama was't that bad
Well he wasn't that good.:woot:

Happy Times

11-01-10, 01:18 PM

Isnt this the secratary of states job?

Well no if you want to build up strong friendship and trust, you have to show you are serious. If US intends to be a global player then courting India is in your interests. India has historically had strong ties to Russia so real work is needed to get closer with it. Indias size and strategic location make it potentially a very valuable ally to have.

SteamWake

11-01-10, 01:31 PM

So your saying they dont take Hillary seriously !! :har:

Happy Times

11-01-10, 01:44 PM

So your saying they dont take Hillary seriously !! :har:

Just saying that a visit by the US president is a big deal still in the world, enjoy while it lasts. :D

Oberon

11-01-10, 02:09 PM

So your saying they dont take Hillary seriously !! :har:

Does anyone? :hmmm:

Buddahaid

11-01-10, 03:49 PM

I take her with a shot of Irish.

Oberon

11-01-10, 04:26 PM

I take her with a shot of Irish.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9325/nmebv.jpg

krashkart

11-01-10, 04:30 PM

What is he doing there? Perhaps outsourcing Congress to New Delhi before the election results come in. :hmmm:

:har:

SteamWake

11-04-10, 11:16 AM

What in the...

Now he is mobilizing the navy !!

"Fleet of 34 warships" :o

Good god.. is all this really necessary??

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-64459

Gerald

11-04-10, 11:23 AM

What can a place like this stunt cost, :hmmm:

krashkart

11-04-10, 12:05 PM

They're not leaving anything to chance, that's for sure.

Oberon

11-04-10, 12:44 PM

Perhaps they think the ISI will invade India. :haha:

Although to be fair, after the carnage of Mumbai back in 2008 I can understand the security, although I think bringing the fleet in is a bit OTT, after all, what can a CVBG do that a couple of missile boats couldn't?

SteamWake

11-04-10, 12:56 PM

Dowly

11-04-10, 01:00 PM

Oberon

11-04-10, 01:02 PM

I'm sure he's just playing a prank for the next president.

*RING RING*

Obama: Hello?
President X: Jesus Christ, Barack! I just went over our economics and we're basicly bankrupt! WTF?!
Obama: LOLOLOLOLOOLOL!!11 Nice one, eh? :haha:

Already been done in the UK :03::

“Dear Chief Secretary, I’m afraid there is no money. Kind regards — and good luck! Liam.”

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article7128665.ece

Oberon

11-04-10, 01:04 PM

Look more impressive? :O:

They should know not to try and challenge India to displays of grandeur and preposterousness.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Pul9fFcCDE/TBJ1nLCa5tI/AAAAAAAAAF8/9QZITLUuG2M/s1600/India-Pakistan+Border+Guards.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9y2qtaopbE

Tribesman

11-04-10, 07:13 PM

Well it didn't take long for that story with all its over the top claims to be rubbished did it.
Isn't it sad that the pentagon has to respond to the crazy stories that do the rounds on US talk radio after originating from an unamed source in a local council in a part of india and then getting reposted by drudge.
Comical is the word the Pentagon used, and they are spot on ain't they:har:

krashkart

11-04-10, 10:04 PM

They should know not to try and challenge India to displays of grandeur and preposterousness.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Pul9fFcCDE/TBJ1nLCa5tI/AAAAAAAAAF8/9QZITLUuG2M/s1600/India-Pakistan+Border+Guards.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9y2qtaopbE

That was interesting... :o

I'll have to watch it again with sound on. :rotfl2:

Takeda Shingen

11-04-10, 10:16 PM

Platapus

11-05-10, 07:32 AM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Pul9fFcCDE/TBJ1nLCa5tI/AAAAAAAAAF8/9QZITLUuG2M/s1600/India-Pakistan+Border+Guards.jpg

The never ending battle to determine once and for all one of the most pressing questions of our time.

Spats or no spats?

krashkart

11-05-10, 07:35 AM

Spats or no spats?

Neither. Spaatz. :D

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Carl_Spaatz%2C_Air_Force_photo_portrait%2C_color.j pg

Skybird

11-05-10, 07:40 AM

They should know not to try and challenge India to displays of grandeur and preposterousness.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5Pul9fFcCDE/TBJ1nLCa5tI/AAAAAAAAAF8/9QZITLUuG2M/s1600/India-Pakistan+Border+Guards.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9y2qtaopbE

Hopelessly plem-plem. :dead:

Either it was directed by Monthy Python, or I just watched an ornithologic documentary.

krashkart

11-05-10, 07:41 AM

Either it was directed by Monthy Python, or I just watched an ornithologic documentary.

They definitely have some bird mimicking going on, don't they. :-?

Buddahaid

11-05-10, 12:34 PM

SteamWake

11-12-10, 10:27 AM

Well that little trip went well :doh:

SEOUL — President Obama’s hopes of emerging from his Asia trip with the twin victories of a free trade agreement with South Korea and a unified approach to spurring global economic growth ran into resistance on all fronts yesterday, putting Obama at odds with his key allies and largest trading partners.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2010/11/12/us_south_korea_trade_accord_not_a_done_deal/

the_tyrant

11-12-10, 10:44 AM

Obama's eyes are bleeding with envy
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs971.snc4/76436_154389777938859_100001035136448_300790_82743 91_n.jpg

The marine corps can't do this at all

tater

11-12-10, 12:33 PM

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/253121/why-obama-right-about-india-charles-krauthammer

^^ spot on.

He's the President, that's the way the PRes travels (and I wouldn't presume to 2d guess the secret service on security).

SteamWake

11-12-10, 02:27 PM

Silly and vindictive to point out that el heffe is taking the "largest trip in US presidents history" taken at a time of financial turmoil and record deficit spending?

I dont give a rats behind if the 'claims are inflated' I dont care if it only cost 1 million a day (Only .... sheese).

He dident need to take a huge entourage with him including all of his family including kids, book entire hotels and so on.

Insensative at best.

Espically now that we learn that it was more or less pointless? Hell the asians are laughing at him now.

Hope he enjoyed the vacation I paid for.

Tribesman

11-12-10, 03:36 PM

I dont give a rats behind if the 'claims are inflated'
So when the details of the cause of your outrage fall apart as nonsense you still remain fully outraged.
Did you get a little bit more outraged when the Pentagon called the claims you repeated comical?

tater

11-12-10, 03:48 PM

I think people can legitimately argue about the necessity of a large trip like this (vs "required" trips to summits, etc), but given the existence of the trip, the cost is the cost.

This is not at all the same as the PR issues surrounding First Family vacations, and possible excess there. These are proper State visits, and "over the top" is how the US Pres travels, not coach.

There is always partisan bias on stuff like this. Look at W and golf. He took flak for playing, then stopped completely. He played far fewer games that BO has already, in fact, by 2012, literally an order of magnitude fewer than BO (maybe has hit that milestone already). Anyone on the left that attacked W for golf should similarly attack BO, or they are hypocrites. I don't attack BO's golf for what it is, just as I'd have thought W playing was fine. I don think that BO should be condemned by anyone that condemned W and forced him to quit playing. No double standards.

In short, state trips are state trips, I have no issues. I'm not gonna complain about vacations, either, but it would be interesting to compare the "staycations" of Presidents that have a "ranch" or beach house with the cost of a "real" vacation. I think given the economy, whichever is cheaper for the taxpayer is more appropriate (and no "entourage" (friends, etc) past the usual press corps should be the standard for all government travel (congress critters, too).).