'smell of frying bacon offends Muslims'

[The Third Man]

Well there you go....Brits are afraid of Muslims. A surrender nation.


hard-working cafe owner has been ordered to tear down an extractor fan - because the smell of her frying bacon 'offends' Muslims. Planning bosses acted against Beverley Akciecek, 49, after being told her next-door neighbour's Muslim friends had felt 'physically sick' due to the 'foul odour'.


I don't know about you, but bacon frying is a pleasant, no great smell, to me. Jews aren't great on pork either, but you don't hear them complaining about others cooking pork.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322435/Cafe-owner-ordered-remove-extractor-fan-case-smell-frying-bacon-offends-passing-Muslims.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[AVGWarhawk]

So are Americans:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/npr-fires-juan-williams-oreilly-appearance/

[The Third Man]

So are Americans:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/npr-fires-juan-williams-oreilly-appearance/

That's a different story. Post it as a thread and watch the s$#8t hit the fan.

[XabbaRus]

OK first it is the dailymail which makes the reporting suspect, ie, how much have they taken it out of context. Second it sounds like a grumpy old git of a neighbour who is using a spurious reason knowing it might get him sympathy.

It is a storm in a teacup and not a sign of how things really are in the UK.

[SteamWake]

OK first it is the dailymail which makes the reporting suspect, ie, how much have they taken it out of context. Second it sounds like a grumpy old git of a neighbour who is using a spurious reason knowing it might get him sympathy.

It is a storm in a teacup and not a sign of how things really are in the UK.

Unh huh...

[FIREWALL]

So are Americans:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/npr-fires-juan-williams-oreilly-appearance/


That woman in the green dress doesn't look like she has anything against pork. :har:

[The Third Man]

So, If the Daily Mail reports it , it didn't happen?

[AVGWarhawk]

So, If the Daily Mail reports it , it didn't happen?


No, it is more than likely embellished beyond belief.

[The Third Man]

No, it is more than likely embellished beyond belief.



Embellished...........
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/4603807627_cb9c69a934.jpg

[AVGWarhawk]

Embellished...........
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/4603807627_cb9c69a934.jpg

Fattening.....

[SteamWake]

Crap... now I'm hungry.

[Takeda Shingen]

Crap... now I'm hungry.

For crap? Eww.

[FIREWALL]

Embellished...........
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1150/4603807627_cb9c69a934.jpgYUMMY !!! I must remember to take 4 blood pressure pills after eating that. :yeah:

Or make advance arraignments with the coroner. :dead:

[Weiss Pinguin]

For crap? Eww.
FOR BACON

[Takeda Shingen]

FOR BACON

But....that's not what he said....and......nevermind......:O:

[The Third Man]

For crap? Eww.

There is some evidence that cooked food, especially fat rich, cooked food contributed to the higher level of intellegence that humans have attained. The theory is based on the amount of energy required to digest raw food versus that required to digest cooked food. And the amount of energy (fat) required for higher brain function and development as apposed to digestion.

[Weiss Pinguin]

But....that's not what he said....and......nevermind......:O:
BACON! :O:

[tater]

Anyone describing the smell of bacon as disgusting is deranged.

Yeah, you can not be allowed to eat it, but your nose is still wired like anyone else. It's disgusting for the same reason unhidden women are likely disgusting to that person—smells yummy but can't have.

There are some smells and flavors that need to be "learned" to appreciate. Bacon is NOT one of them. :)

[The Third Man]

Anyone describing the smell of bacon as disgusting is deranged.

Yeah, you can not be allowed to eat it, but your nose is still wired like anyone else. It's disgusting for the same reason unhidden women are likely disgusting to that person—smells yummy but can't have.

There are some smells and flavors that need to be "learned" to appreciate. Bacon is NOT one of them. :)

Ask a woman and they like potatoes.

[Takeda Shingen]

BACON! :O:


In my pre-vegetarian days, I would have found that sandwich appetizing if it was just bacon or just beef. I never liked the taste of them put together.

[Betonov]

Can someone explain why muslims dont eat pork. My muslim friends dont know and dont care, they'll eat a pig any day (except ramazan)

[Takeda Shingen]

There is some evidence that cooked food, especially fat rich, cooked food contributed to the higher level of intellegence that humans have attained. The theory is based on the amount of energy required to digest raw food versus that required to digest cooked food. And the amount of energy (fat) required for higher brain function and development as apposed to digestion.

Citation?

[tater]

My father in law has a jewish background (ethnically, anyway, he's an atheist). He was on the Atkins diet for a while (he was in his 70s at the time), and I had my family's standard Christmas morning meal going when they came to see the kids Christmas morning—bagels and lox (my dad (catholic) always went out for the paper and some breakfast stuff, and on xmas the only place open was a jewish deli, so every year he'd bring bagels and lox for xmas breakfast).

Anyway, I'm making bagels, and my father in law proceeds to take out his bag of Atkins snack food—pork rinds (yum!). He smears cream cheese on one, then puts lox on top.

I asked if there was some special jewish hell for that. He thought there probably was.

[FIREWALL]

That sandwich would be perfect if it had a pork chop slid into it. :yeah::woot:

[MH]

My father in law has a jewish background (ethnically, anyway, he's an atheist). He was on the Atkins diet for a while (he was in his 70s at the time), and I had my family's standard Christmas morning meal going when they came to see the kids Christmas morning—bagels and lox (my dad (catholic) always went out for the paper and some breakfast stuff, and on xmas the only place open was a jewish deli, so every year he'd bring bagels and lox for xmas breakfast).

Anyway, I'm making bagels, and my father in law proceeds to take out his bag of Atkins snack food—pork rinds (yum!). He smears cream cheese on one, then puts lox on top.

I asked if there was some special jewish hell for that. He thought there probably was.

I sometimes do something similar but add Humus :)

[tater]

I sometimes do something similar but add Humus :)

I'll add that as an option this year :)

[Takeda Shingen]

I sometimes do something similar but add Humus :)

I misread that the first time as:

I sometimes do something similar but add Humans.

:timeout:

EDIT: I know what hummus is. Dyslexics should not quickly glance at replies, as I did in this case.

[MH]

I misread that the first time as:

I sometimes do something similar but add Humans.

:timeout:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummus


From Wiki :
That is the root of confict here lol :

In October 2008 the Association of Lebanese Industrialists petitioned to the Lebanese ministry of Economy to request protected status from the European Commission (http://www.subsim.com/wiki/European_Commission) for hummus as a uniquely Lebanese food, similar to the Protected Geographical Status (http://www.subsim.com/wiki/Protected_Geographical_Status) rights held over regional food items by various European Union (http://www.subsim.com/wiki/European_Union) countries.[36] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/#cite_note-35)[37] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/#cite_note-36)[38] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/#cite_note-37) Fadi Abboud (president of the Lebanese Industrialists Association), stated that "Israelis have usurped several Lebanese and oriental products",[1] (http://www.ali.org.lb/foodcampaignarticles.html). According to Abboud, Lebanon exported the first hummus dish in 1959.[39] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/#cite_note-libnan-38) As a response, food critic Janna Gur wrote: "The success of certain brands of Israeli hummus abroad may have been what brought about Abboud's anger", leading him to claim that Israel has been "stealing" their country's national dishes, like hummus, falafel (http://www.subsim.com/wiki/Falafel), tabbouleh (http://www.subsim.com/wiki/Tabbouleh) and baba ghanouj (http://www.subsim.com/wiki/Baba_ghanouj).[40] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/#cite_note-gur-39) In response, Shooky Galili, an Israeli journalist specialising in food who writes a blog dedicated to hummus),[2] (http://humus101.com/EN) said that "trying to make a copyright claim over hummus is like claiming for the rights to bread or wine. Hummus is a centuries old Arab dish—nobody owns it, it belongs to the region.[41] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/#cite_note-big_one-40) As of late 2009, the Lebanese Industrialists Association was still "preparing documents and proof" to support its claim.[42] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/#cite_note-41)

[Weiss Pinguin]

Can someone explain why muslims dont eat pork. My muslim friends dont know and dont care, they'll eat a pig any day (except ramazan)
IIRC pork is considered unclean in Islam, similar to Judaism. IIRC.

[AVGWarhawk]

I love sausage. In fact, I like anything pork related. Well I do have a few exceptions such as pickeled pigs feet and pork rinds.

[frau kaleun]

I love sausage. In fact, I like anything pork related. Well I do have a few exceptions such as pickeled pigs feet and pork rinds.

I'm just the opposite, I don't much care for any pork products other than bacon. There are some I will eat if that's what's been made available but I wouldn't fix or go buy for myself. Bacon, on the other hand... :D

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm just the opposite, I don't much care for any pork products other than bacon. There are some I will eat if that's what's been made available but I wouldn't fix or go buy for myself. Bacon, on the other hand... :D


I do enjoy sausage. Behind steak it is my favorite. A nice smoked ham can make my day also. Great for sandwiches. Bacon is on my list of top 10. A BLT sandwhich is awesome. :up:

[FIREWALL]

Pork Rinds dipped in Tobasco sauce Yummmm.

This thread is makeing me hungry.

I think I'll run over and checkout new fastfood joint. Pork R Us. :p2:

[AVGWarhawk]

Pork Rinds dipped in Tobasco sauce Yummmm.




I can feel my arteries hardening just reading this! :har:

[Betonov]

You dont know what good food is until you've tried the kraski prsut
http://img.siol.net/08/358/633656216838414835_pr%C5%A1ut_03.jpg

http://beta.finance-on.net/galerije/928/gigi_prsut.jpg

[Oberon]

I misread that the first time as:

I sometimes do something similar but add Humans.

:timeout:

EDIT: I know what hummus is. Dyslexics should not quickly glance at replies, as I did in this case.

S'alright, I read it as Hamas at first...which is a bit more on topic I guess... :hmmm:

[The Third Man]

You dont know what good food is until you've tried the kraski prsut
http://img.siol.net/08/358/633656216838414835_pr%C5%A1ut_03.jpg

http://beta.finance-on.net/galerije/928/gigi_prsut.jpg

Love it!!!!!!!!!

[FIREWALL]

I can feel my arteries hardening just reading this! :har:

Tobasco sauce counter acts that.

You dont know what good food is until you've tried the kraski prsut
http://img.siol.net/08/358/633656216838414835_pr%C5%A1ut_03.jpg

http://beta.finance-on.net/galerije/928/gigi_prsut.jpg

Yummmm... Again. Load that on that sandwiche too. :woot:

[Takeda Shingen]

You dont know what good food is until you've tried the kraski prsut

Served some very similar ham sliced paper thin at my house during the last New Years party. It was a big hit with the guests.

[Betonov]

Served some very similar ham sliced paper thin at my house during the last New Years party. It was a big hit with the guests.
Hope you didnt forget the olives

[Takeda Shingen]

Hope you didnt forget the olives

We had those too, but most of them were going into the drinks.

[Tribesman]

Well there you go....Brits are afraid of Muslims. A surrender nation.

So its a typical daily hate mail nonsense story and third man swallowed it:har:

[Ducimus]

http://members.cox.net/maxton/emeril.jpg
Pork fat rules!

[The Third Man]

There is some evidence that cooked food, especially fat rich, cooked food contributed to the higher level of intellegence that humans have attained. The theory is based on the amount of energy required to digest raw food versus that required to digest cooked food. And the amount of energy (fat) required for higher brain function and development as apposed to digestion.


It was this new meat diet, full of densely-packed nutrients, that provided the catalyst for human evolution, particularly the growth of the brain, said Katharine Milton, an authority on primate diet.



Without meat, said Milton, it's unlikely that proto humans could have secured enough energy and nutrition from the plants available in their African environment at that time to evolve into the active, sociable, intelligent creatures they became. Receding forests would have deprived them of the more nutritious leaves and fruits that forest-dwelling primates survive on, said Milton.

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html

[Betonov]

There is some evidence that cooked food, especially fat rich, cooked food contributed to the higher level of intellegence that humans have attained. The theory is based on the amount of energy required to digest raw food versus that required to digest cooked food. And the amount of energy (fat) required for higher brain function and development as apposed to digestion.


http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html
makes sense

[Takeda Shingen]

There is some evidence that cooked food, especially fat rich, cooked food contributed to the higher level of intellegence that humans have attained. The theory is based on the amount of energy required to digest raw food versus that required to digest cooked food. And the amount of energy (fat) required for higher brain function and development as apposed to digestion.

http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html

Interesting. I wonder if a current theory exists, as this one is 11 years old. It does not invalidate the theory, but I am wondering if there is something more current.

You are aware that theory paraphrased in the article you have linked borrows heavily on human evolutionary theory, are you not? It essentially tells us that the human desire for fats and salts is rooted in the requirements for the evolutionary development of the human brain that would have transpired on as man evolved into the modern Homo sapien.

[FIREWALL]

Let's get back to building the ULTIMATE pork product sandwiche. :yep: :yeah:

[cptroyce]

The reason that (Orthodox) Jews and any other practicing denomination that chooses to, doesn't eat pork, is that traditionally i.e 1000's to hundreds of years ago, pork carried trichinosis. Perhaps it still does, but with modern manufacturing process, that danger has been minimized to eliminated.

It is a traditional practice based on common sense, for health reasons.

My guess is that it is the same for Muslims.

You may not choose to eat it for whatever health reasons...but it does smell delicious!

[Betonov]

http://mds.sentjanz.si/blog/files/2008/06/dsc08316odojek.JPG

the odojek (a young pig)

the recipe is simple
Ingredients: 1 pig
1 fire with stick
4 beers
1 serb

you put the stick trough the pig. You put the serb next to the fireplace and give him beers. Wait until he is done roasting the pig

[tater]

Mexican chorizo is so good, like bacon, it deserves to be in its own food group :)

[The Third Man]

Interesting. I wonder if a current theory exists, as this one is 11 years old. It does not invalidate the theory, but I am wondering if there is something more current.

That is the same question asked of Albert Einstien, but I digress.

[Takeda Shingen]

That is the same question asked of Albert Einstien, but I digress.

Uh huh. You're Albert Einstein now.

[The Third Man]

Uh huh. You're Albert Einstein now.

No, But I question your question. Music isn't exactly phisics.

[Buddahaid]

That is the same question asked of Albert Einstien, but I digress.

Einstein liked ham sandwiches?

[Takeda Shingen]

No, But I question your question. Music isn't exactly phisics.

Says the washed up bush pilot. You may trust that my academic qualifications exceed yours.

[The Third Man]

Says the washed up bush pilot. You may trust that my academic qualifications exceed yours.

But it doesn't change the theory I posted.

[Dowly]

I believe this is the time to post a picture of someone eating popcorn, so insert picture like that >HERE<

[Takeda Shingen]

But it doesn't change the theory I posted.

No, it does not change the validity of theory at all, and I fully accept it. I was asking about it because since it is rather obscure, I assumed that you were following it, and would have something of additional value to add if pressed.

The only thing I find unusual is that someone who has such a lengthy post history detailing utter distain for evolutionary science would cite it to support an assertion. It is an assertion that I have come to agree with, but from the stance of your stated personal philosophy, it is very illogical.

[The Third Man]

You may trust that my academic qualifications exceed yours.

Good to know. You are so much better than I. Should I roll over and lick your ass?

[Tribesman]

I believe this is the time to post a picture of someone eating popcorn, so insert picture like that >HERE<

Can you make it a picture of a muslim eating popcorn and a non muslim saying that the muslim should be complaining that popcorn isn't nice but as he isn't he willl complain himself and say it was the muslim complaining

[Takeda Shingen]

Good to know. You are so much better than I. Should I roll over and lick your ass?

Yes.

[The Third Man]

Yes.

How many ccks in yr a..ss? Transperency. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[Dowly]

Haha, good job, Tak. :DL

[Betonov]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/towens.jpg

[The Third Man]

Yes.

I don't mean to offend, and am sorry if i did. I know you are a sensitve sort and hope you don't hold my opinion against me.

[Dowly]

:o

:har::har:

[Ducimus]

/popcorn :woot:

[Skybird]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/towens.jpg

Tzzz, I always knew American Handegg is for sissies only. League regulations now even demand them to cushion their faces

[Takeda Shingen]

I don't mean to offend, and am sorry if i did. I know you are a sensitve sort and hope you don't hold my opinion against me.

I'm not offended at all; you don't upset me. My views seem to upset you quite a bit, and that is a sad thing. You took a swing at me, and I swung back. I don't seek to antagonize you, but that does not necissitate that I serve as your punching bag.

You do like to throw the fists, but usually back down when you get hit back. It's a pretty effective way of keeping your hostility in check.

[The Third Man]

You do like to throw the fists, but usually back down when you get hit back. It's a pretty effective way of keeping your hostility in check.


And the problem is? If I am so weak.

[Takeda Shingen]

And the problem is? If I am so weak.

Not a problem for me. You just pick fights with the wrong people.

[MH]

So bacon is a key to human intelligence -no wonder future is in Hummus now....

[Takeda Shingen]

So bacon is a key to human intelligence -no wonder future is in Hummus now....

Okay, that was pretty good. :haha:

[The Third Man]

Not a problem for me. You just pick fights with the wrong people.

I don't recall picking a fight with you. But i do recall you picking a fight with me.

[FIREWALL]

http://mds.sentjanz.si/blog/files/2008/06/dsc08316odojek.JPG

the odojek (a young pig)

the recipe is simple
Ingredients: 1 pig
1 fire with stick
4 beers
1 serb

you put the stick trough the pig. You put the serb next to the fireplace and give him beers. Wait until he is done roasting the pig

It works for me.:up:

Mexican chorizo is so good, like bacon, it deserves to be in its own food group :)

Living in So Ca. It's as common as salt+pepper for seasoning dishes.:up:

[Takeda Shingen]

I don't recall picking a fight with you. But i do recall you picking a fight with me.

Oh come on. Disparaging my area of study? Not the first time you've done it either. Look, we're never going to get any type of resolution here unless you're willing to display some honesty about your provocation. It really isn't good for you. I know that people love reading these type of threads because it makes for excellent theatre, but the nice guy in me just wishes that you'd put the hatred behind you. I mean, I even tried to engage you in the Juan Williams thread; I didn't know a thing about it, as I don't follow politics as much as you do. You always want to play fisty cuffs, though.

[The Third Man]

Oh come on. Disparaging my area of study? Not the first time you've done it either. Look, we're never going to get any type of resolution here unless you're willing to display some honesty about your provocation. It really isn't good for you. I know that people love reading these type of threads because it makes for excellent theatre, but the nice guy in me just wishes that you'd put the hatred behind you. I mean, I even tried to engage you in the Juan Williams thread; I didn't know a thing about it, as I don't follow politics as much as you do. You always want to play fisty cuffs, though.

How can I disparage your area of study if you are proud if it? Perhaps it is You .

[Takeda Shingen]

How can I disparage your area of study if you are proud if it? Perhaps it is You .

Or, perhaps your constant disparaging of everyone else's careers and achievements masks the insecurity you feel about your's. Perhaps that overcompensation explains your behavior in recent threads. Could it be that you feel, at this late stage of your life, somehow unfulfilled?

[The Third Man]

Or, perhaps your constant disparaging of everyone else's careers and achievements masks the insecurity you feel about your's. Perhaps that overcompensation explains your behavior in recent threads. Could it be that you feel, at this late stage of your life, somehow unfulfilled?

Yep that's it I'm dying. And am stupid by way of that. Your are an educator and should know better.

[Takeda Shingen]

Yep that's it I'm dying. And am stupid by way of that. Your are an educator and should know better.

I might very well know better, but that does not change the fact that you are clearly overcompensating for something. There is a massive chip on your shoulder.

[Oberon]

There is a massive chip on your shoulder.

Is that why he's dying, you think? I'm no medic but chips on the shoulder can't be healthy? High in saturated fats for one thing.... :nope:

[Tribesman]

Is that why he's dying, you think? I'm no medic but chips on the shoulder can't be healthy? High in saturated fats for one thing....
No the chip on the shoulder leads to a severe imbalance which means they fall and knock their heads a lot, the repeated knocks on the head lead to further imbalance which leads to spamming posts from multiple accounts on nonsense stories

[Takeda Shingen]

Is that why he's dying, you think? I'm no medic but chips on the shoulder can't be healthy? High in saturated fats for one thing.... :nope:

You're awful. :O:

EDIT: You are also awful, Tribesman. :O:

I'm doing my best Dr. Phil in trying to reform this guy into a productive SubSim member. I think I'm failing.

[MH]

No the chip on the shoulder leads to a severe imbalance which means they fall and knock their heads a lot, the repeated knocks on the head lead to further imbalance which leads to spamming posts from multiple accounts on nonsense stories

Oh man thats one big conspiracy theory.:ping:

[Raptor1]

Is that why he's dying, you think? I'm no medic but chips on the shoulder can't be healthy? High in saturated fats for one thing.... :nope:

I'm no psychiatrist, but I do believe placing chips upon one's shoulder is not generally considered sane behavior and could possibly indicate the presence of deeper psychological problems...

[jumpy]

I may be missing something here, but the thing about 'academic superiority' was not exactly necessary. I know if it was directed at me it would rub me the wrong way. It seemed rude on a more personal level than the way the conversation that preceded it was going. :confused:

That's how I read it anyway.





As for the bacon smell... well, has anyone lived next door to a curry house? hehe not that it would be a problem for me :cool: Daily mail fun. But it would seem that it's not actually muslims who are complaining, but a turncoat of our very own.
Why don't they just install some ducting to take the extractor opening higher up?
As for the council and their 'retrospective planning application'... well that's a typical council response to something that could be sorted out using a little bit of common sense. Hopefully with the cutbacks some of these cretins will be removed from circulation, let them see what a dole queue is like for a change.

I remember something about the fact that you cannot keep pork for as long as beef, plus pork has other worms and parasites in the meat itself. I suppose the rationale behind not eating pork back then was because pigs eat the stuff humans throw away and in a desert country, that's gotta stink.

[Oberon]

I'm doing my best Dr. Phil in trying to reform this guy into a productive SubSim member. I think I'm failing.

Perhaps you're trying the wrong show:

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/funny-pictures-fighting-jerry-springer-cats.jpg

[Oberon]

I'm no psychiatrist, but I do believe placing chips upon one's shoulder is not generally considered sane behavior and could possibly indicate the presence of deeper psychological problems...

Not to mention odour problems over a lengthy period of time...or quite possibly pigeon or seagull problems... :hmmm:

[Takeda Shingen]

I may be missing something here, but the thing about 'academic superiority' was not exactly necessary. I know if it was directed at me it would rub me the wrong way. It seemed rude on a more personal level than the way the conversation that preceded it was going. :confused:

That's how I read it anyway.

Yes, it was not very nice, but I gave it as good as I got it. See the post above.

[Raptor1]

Not to mention odour problems over a lengthy period of time...or quite possibly pigeon or seagull problems... :hmmm:

Which would lead to further physical imbalance and a worsening of the mental state. I never realized how horrible chips on the shoulder could be until now...

[jumpy]

Sorry mate, I'm still confused. Is it about music vs physics? Unless there's some ninja editing going on, I still can't see the angle to elicit your response. :oops:

[tater]

Living in So Ca. It's as common as salt+pepper for seasoning dishes.:up:

Given that stuffing season is coming up, here's a stuffing recipe I've been making for years (from New Mexico Magazine) I have some of my notes in there since I hand-typed this from a photocopy:

Corn bread, chorizo and toasted piñon nut stuffing (from New Mexico Magazine)

Ingredients:
1 T. oil
1lb [b]mexican chorizo (bulk works best) (the bright, unnatural red stuff—NOT spanish/portuguese)
4 T. butter (recipe doesn't say, but I use unsalted, and adjust salt myself)
1 onion, chopped fine
1/4 cup diced celery
4 serrano chiles, seeded, deribbed, and finely minced (adjust this down to control the heat, I use 2 usually, 4 is too much for some guests, IMO)
6 garlic cloves, peeled and minced
1 t. minced fresh thyme
1 t. minced fresh sage
1 T. chopped fresh cilantro
1 cup piñon nuts (our local pine nuts, any will do), toasted and coarsely chopped
8 cups coarsely crumbled corn bread (home made best, can use boxed mix, too. You can
also use blue cornmeal cornbread if you want it more "southwestern")
1 cup chicken or turkey stock (again, home made stock always trumps store bought, but
it's still good with the latter)

Directions:

Toast piñon nuts by spreading on a baking pan, and cooking them until they get golden
brown. Very roughly chop them to get lots of sizes.

In a sauté pan, heat the oil over medium heat and add the chorizo, breaking it up with a
wooden spoon as it browns for about 5 minutes. Remove the sausage with a slotted spoon
and set in a large mixing bowl. Set aside.

Remove all the greese from the sauté pan (dump it, no need to be too careful). Put the
butter in the pan, and once it is melted add the onions, celery, chiles, and garlic.. Sauté
over medium heat 4-5 minutes until veggies are translucent and soft.

Remove the pan from the heat and add the herbs (thyme, sage, and cilantro). Pour the
mixture into the bowl with the chorizo, add the cornbread chunks and piñon nuts. Moisten
with the chicken (or turkey) stock using a little stock at a time.

You can either stuff the bird with it (I never do), or put it in a greased casserole and bake
at 350 for ~45 minutes.

This stuffing is stunningly good. I usually tone the serranos way down since we have a wide
array of people over, and not all like it really hot, and 4 is pretty hot. For many people not
in the southwest, 1 serrano might be fine (I have to admit I don't deseed/derib them
terribly much though).

[frau kaleun]

I'm no psychiatrist, but I do believe placing chips upon one's shoulder is not generally considered sane behavior and could possibly indicate the presence of deeper psychological problems...

Anything that involves doing something with chips other than, you know, eating them, should be cause for concern IMHO. :O:

[jumpy]

tater
hehe that's a lot of effort for something to shove up a turkeys bottom :DL sounds tasty though :)

[Takeda Shingen]

Sorry mate, I'm still confused. Is it about music vs physics? Unless there's some ninja editing going on, I still can't see the angle to elicit your response. :oops:

No worries. For a few months, this particular member has been going about disparaging the careers and achievements of many members, myself included. He knew exactly what he was saying in this, and what buttons he was trying to push, because he's done it to a lot of people here. I thought it was time to give it back to him.

You are right in that it was probably not the most professional way that I could have handled the situation, especially since I'm trying to turn the guy around. Coming from a guy like you, the critique means something. :up:

[Tribesman]

Would fish on the other shoulder balance the problem.
Or would that lead to more seagull problems?

[frau kaleun]

Would fish on the other shoulder balance the problem.
Or would that lead to more seagull problems?

But then where would you keep the malt vinegar? Balanced on the top of your head? :hmmm:

[Tribesman]

Sorry Frau the vinegar odour would be offensive to Christian noses so I would have to complain on their behalf.

[tater]

tater
hehe that's a lot of effort for something to shove up a turkeys bottom :DL sounds tasty though :)

You can cook it outside the bird, actually. I usually do since thanksgiving is not usually at our house, so I bring the "stuffing" in a large, dutch oven. The bird is only useful fro producing gravy, IMHO (and crispy skin). I can take or leave turkey as meat. Rather have duck, frankly. :)

It's no trouble, actually, I can bang that out pretty fast. Trouble is making the Christmas Pudding (dunno why most Americans have lost that awesome food from our English past...)

[Tribesman]

Rather have duck, frankly.
Goose, plus you get the really good fat for cooking from it.
But what you really want is a chicken with stuffing inside a goose inside a turkey

[Takeda Shingen]

Turducken, right?

[MH]

:oMy god lucky no vegetarians here.:o

[Tribesman]

Turducken, right?


Yep, three bird roast, but I prefer the goose as the second layer as it has more flavour and brings more moistness.

[the_tyrant]

:oMy god lucky no vegetarians here.:o
isn't Takeda Shingen a vegetarian?(or maybe i'm wrong)

[frau kaleun]

Sorry Frau the vinegar odour would be offensive to Christian noses

Then perhaps we should just cover them up with the burkas we're making all the Muslims stop wearing. :hmmm:

[frau kaleun]

:oMy god lucky no vegetarians here.:o

http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/36d57b3b-2bf6-485f-90fa-3543d54b468c.jpg

[MH]

Then perhaps we should just cover them up with the burkas we're making all the Muslims stop wearing. :hmmm:

....or with turkey.

[jumpy]

Tak - Ah, I see. Was missing some context there, np. :03: 'Tis the forums after all... all work and no play and all of that (hope that sounds right?)


tater, sometimes we have stuffing baked thinly on a tray, so it goes just a little bit crispy on top, kind of like a savoury flapjack. Typical 'stuffing of the bird' has a layer of ground sausage meat pressed into the chest/neck area of the turkey, followed by the aforementioned stuffing mix.
You gotta do your roasties in goose fat though, makes 'em all lovely and crispy delicious mmmmm

I don't often have room for christmas pudding; sometimes it's just way too rich following loading yourself to the gunnel's with roast dinner :DL

I like duck, trouble is, you always need at least a pair for a decent cook up.

[Takeda Shingen]

isn't Takeda Shingen a vegetarian?(or maybe i'm wrong)

I am, but people eating meat or talking about eating meat doesn't bother me. I joined in on the conversation, even prior to the ugliness. Chat away, it's fine with me. :DL

[Raptor1]

....or with turkey.

But then, where would we put the Turks?

[frau kaleun]

....or with turkey.

Or both. A Christian in a burka in some turkey. That would be a turburkian, for short. :O:

[frau kaleun]

But then, where would we put the Turks?

On an ottoman?

[Takeda Shingen]

Tak - Ah, I see. Was missing some context there, np. :03: 'Tis the forums after all... all work and no play and all of that (hope that sounds right?)

It's great that there are good people on this forum that can tell a moderator when he is flirting with the line. This is not the first time that you've pulled me back in when I've gotten carried away. Thank you!

[MH]

But then, where would we put the Turks?

:smug:............In Germany?

[Takeda Shingen]

:smug:............In Germany?

:haha:

[tater]

Yep, three bird roast, but I prefer the goose as the second layer as it has more flavour and brings more moistness.

My mother in law made that a couple times. The trouble is that the duck needs to be cooked so the skin crisps up and you render out all that lovely fat to cook other stuff with.

It was good, but not as good as just the duck, IMHO. Goose works, too, because it has that wild "gotta keep warm!" fat like the duck.

Damn, I'm hungry now.

[tater]

I am, but people eating meat or talking about eating meat doesn't bother me. I joined in on the conversation, even prior to the ugliness. Chat away, it's fine with me. :DL

Assuming you cook, you should start a veggie food thread. We have a few vegetarian friends, and aside from Indian, I have trouble coming up with interesting stuff to feed them that doesn't suck.

Vegan stuff I'm not willing to even bother with, lol. Indian food is good 'cause it's cooked in GHEE. :)

[Dowly]

Speaking of vegetarians, I did a test at (I think) Oatmeal on what I'd taste to a cannibal. The result was "Roasted tofu". Guess I'll be safe when cannibals take over the world. :doh:

[Takeda Shingen]

Assuming you cook, you should start a veggie food thread. We have a few vegetarian friends, and aside from Indian, I have trouble coming up with interesting stuff to feed them that doesn't suck.

Vegan stuff I'm not willing to even bother with, lol. Indian food is good 'cause it's cooked in GHEE. :)

Good idea; I think I might do that. I stopped eating meat for health reasons, but the excitement of doing good things for your body is quickly tempered by the realization that much of the vegetarian cuisine does in fact suck. I loved the way my body and mind felt and worked, but eating became a chore until I found a few cook books that really changed things up for me. I've got a few recipies that are really fantastic, if I can put my hand to them. I can't remember cooking recipies for squat. :88)

I am with you on the vegan stuff. I'd be lost without milk and cheese.

[The Third Man]

Meat. twice a week minimum.

[Platapus]

I am with you on the vegan stuff. I'd be lost without milk and cheese.

I used to be a vegetarian but now find myself comfortable with being a pollo-pescitarian But then I was a vegetarian for moral reasons, not health.

What I don't understand about the premise of this thread is that of all the Muslims I know, NONE of them object to anyone, not a Muslim, eating pork. They just don't eat it themselves.

I think this is more an individual attitude than a common religious attitude. Just like there are "militant" vegetarians who seem to have to "prove their point" in front of people and are generally considered jerks, most vegetarians I know don't give a crap what anyone else eats.

I think that would also apply to many Muslims too.

[nikimcbee]

FOR BACON

You said the magic phrase of the day

ol' mcbee goes nuts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CErapf79rqM

[FIREWALL]

PORK RULES. :yeah:

[kiwi_2005]

We just had a roast pork last night. I usually stay away from fat on meat but when it comes to pork I just can't help myself. The fat on pork is the best part :haha: Love it!

[FIREWALL]

We just had a roast pork last night. I usually stay away from fat on meat but when it comes to pork I just can't help myself. The fat on pork is the best part :haha: Love it!

Especially when it's crisp and sizzleing. :woot::up:

[The Third Man]

Especially when it's crisp and sizzleing. :woot::up:


tastey. how can you not like bacon?

[tater]

Like pork?

Go to Vietnamese place. Order Bun with char grill pork. Profit.

[mookiemookie]

Like pork?

Go to Vietnamese place. Order Bun with char grill pork. Profit.

BBQ pork banh mi can't be beat. Lucky we have such a large Vietnamese contingent here in Houston that allows for easy access to banh mi's.

[Flaxpants]

I'm frankly sick & tired of this over-sensitivity towards Muslims feelings. I don't complain when I have to listen to their morning call for prayer every day. And now someone complaining about a smell of bacon, WTF! All I can say is, get a friggin life!

[FIREWALL]

Thankfully most of the world peacefully do's one thing right.

Make good pork dishes. I'll respect those that don't.

Don't know what your missing. :DL

[Ducimus]

We just had a roast pork last night. I usually stay away from fat on meat but when it comes to pork I just can't help myself. The fat on pork is the best part :haha: Love it!

Pork fat rules!

And what a coincidence. I've been eating pork roast for dinner for the last 3-4 days. Crock pot for the win!

[Flaxpants]

I propose a 'World outdoor spit-roasting week', starting Aug 11th 2011. All women kindly asked to wear skimpy clothes. Getting drunk and having FUN will be the order of the day.

[Sailor Steve]

I just got here after four grueling hours of playing music with my friends. :D

So I'm starving and I make some dinner. So what am I eating while I enjoy this thread? Pizza, with peppers, olives, mushrooms, many kinds of mixed cheeses, and PEPPERONI, SAUSAGE & HAM!

Perfect fit! :sunny:

I love spaghetti, but not with meatballs. If it ain't got sausage, it ain't Italian!

[Flaxpants]

Nothing like pizza after a band rehearsal.

[FIREWALL]

I just got here after four grueling hours of playing music with my friends. :D

So I'm starving and I make some dinner. So what am I eating while I enjoy this thread? Pizza, with peppers, olives, mushrooms, many kinds of mixed cheeses, and PEPPERONI, SAUSAGE & HAM!

Perfect fit! :sunny:

I love spaghetti, but not with meatballs. If it ain't got sausage, it ain't Italian!

I'm with you Steve. Pepperoni is too dry without sausage on pizza.

And Italian sausage is what makes spaghetti. :woot:

[Sailor Steve]

Yeah. My favorite pizza is ham, sausage, mushrooms and olives. My favorite sandwich is ham 'n' cheese. Ham, sausage and bacon are all good with eggs, sometimes even all three together. Don't like bacon in salads, but ham is good.

All-beef wieners? Thanks, I'll have a polish sausage on a bun instead.

Dang, I thought I was full, but now I might need another slice. :D

[FIREWALL]

Yeah. My favorite pizza is ham, sausage, mushrooms and olives. My favorite sandwich is ham 'n' cheese. Ham, sausage and bacon are all good with eggs, sometimes even all three together. Don't like bacon in salads, but ham is good.

All-beef wieners? Thanks, I'll have a polish sausage on a bun instead.

Dang, I thought I was full, but now I might need another slice. :D

Now you did it Steve. :damn: Everybody now is going to want to discuss the lowly merits of the TubeSteak. :haha:

[Sailor Steve]

As long as they stick to the kind of tubesteak that goes on a bun with mustard and catsup, fall back and fire away! :sunny:

[TarJak]

Did someone say Bakon?

http://thegloss.com/files/2010/04/bacon-vodka.jpg

[Betonov]

OOOOOHH gabagool
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2797/4037021739_6f7db7e4d5_o.jpg

[Penguin]

haha, I like the bacon vodka, I wonder if they export it to Saudi-Arabia...

here's an alternative if you have to drive:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/7dcf05103275129http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1620/dietcokebacon.jpg

and a snack afterwards:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5268/3420231570a2bedc1226.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5268/3420231570a2bedc1226.jpg)
http://www.imagebam.com/image/71045f103275124

[Penguin]

...and now my outing:
Hello, my name is Penguin and I am a vegetarian! And the smell of bacon doesn't really smell appealing to me...:o - but it neither offends me.
I must say that the best smelling meat to my nose is the one at a bbq - especially when it has been marinaded.
Despite beeing meatfree since almost 19 years I do taste it from time to time, seing if I miss something - guess the german in me needs his sausage from time to time...
For some sorts of meat there are some good substitutes - like for ground meat and yes, even pork - I cook a good veggie gyros - all a matter of seasoning. We have a great chinese restaurant here, they make the best veggie duck in the world - even with the crispy skin! On the other hand there are some distinctive flavors of meat where I haven't found a substitute for, game and bacon fall into this category.

I support the idea of a vegetarian recipe threat, not with recipes where you just change the meat to a vegetarian alternative, but where the whole composition is coherent without meat - like in many indian dishes. Though I am too sick and uncreative to write about recipes atm.

[JU_88]

Well there you go....Brits are afraid of Muslims. A surrender nation.



I don't know about you, but bacon frying is a pleasant, no great smell, to me. Jews aren't great on pork either, but you don't hear them complaining about others cooking pork.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322435/Cafe-owner-ordered-remove-extractor-fan-case-smell-frying-bacon-offends-passing-Muslims.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Ahh is that the smell of bacon? or is it the stench of 'selective' horse manure.

pure tabloid gold !!!

If it was any one else complaining about the smell of any other type of food it wouldnt even be a story!
There must be thousand of cases where residents have complained about the smells from extractor fans from cafes and takeaways, hell I used to live next door to a chinese and my flat mate complained about the stench to the council - why didnt he end up in the papers I wonder?

Also British people complain about the noise from local pubs all the time, though I bet if a muslim complained about that - we'd have to accuse him of enforcing the islamic law which forbids alchahol consumption!

Thankfully most people arent stupid enough to take this kind of thing seriously,
But of course there will be a select few unable to join up the dots, who cry:

"Ohh look everyone, the evil muslims took away our freedom to cook bacon... Jews would would never do this" (or perhaps they would, but the media just woudn't treat it as news worthy since we are not at war with the Jews ;) )

They call that news? its ****ing pathetic.

P.S I'll also remind The Third man that Britian supported the U.S in both Iraq and Afgahnistan where we lost and continue to loose many of our troops.
-and you call us a 'surrender nation afraid of Muslims'.... Very Nice, why dont you fly over here and say that to the millions of brits who backed you in the war on terror over the last decade.

[MH]

Ohh look everyone the evil muslims took away our freedom to cook bacon... Jews would would never do this (or perhaps they would, but the media just woudn't treat it as news worthy since we are not at war with the Jews)

They call that news? its ****ing pathetic.

Dont you know that The Jews own the media and the bacon.
We just let you eat it to piss of mulims as we sit back and laugh our asses off.

[JU_88]

Dont you know that The Jews own the media and the bacon.
We just let you eat it to piss of mulims as we sit back and laugh our asses off.

LOL yeah but the Jews pretty much own everything, you guys have done well for your selves I guess :D

Oh wow it just gets better, if you read the full artical, it turns out the cafe owner them selves are Turkish Muslim and person complaining is actually a non-muslim (complaining that the smell offends his muslim friends.) WTF? :rotfl2:
Talk about 'twisting things around'.

The Daily mail basically went - Woopee! lets turn this trivial matter in to Ground zero mosque the sequel, who knows, maybe the English defense league will be dumb enough to organise a pro-bacon rally! What a hoot :haha: !

Sorry is anyone actually taking any of this seriously? :D

[frau kaleun]

Sorry is anyone actually taking any of this seriously? :D

I believe there may have been a very short period of "taking it seriously" before someone said the magic word ("BACON!"), after which the rest of the thread turned into a discussion of the participants' eating habits and pork product preferences. :D

[Betonov]

I believe there may have been a very short period of "taking it seriously" before someone said the magic word ("BACON!"), after which the rest of the thread turned into a discussion of the participants' eating habits and pork product preferences. :D
Imagine if Homer Simpson was a subsimer
http://www.myteespot.com/images/Images_d/img_LjFAHq.jpg

and this one is for Dowly (I hear he is a fan of the fleshy parts)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2016/2337430825_715f1e1c7e.jpg?v=0

[jumpy]

^^
lol Bacon and spaniels ears... Dowly must be having apoplexy right now :har:


I recently spent 10 days staying at a friends place in wales - he's a vegetarian and would not let us cook any meat in his house. We were there doing some building work to help him out. Most of the food we ate was veggie. As a confirmed omnivore, I don't mind the alternatives to proper meat, but I did find a noticeable lack of energy/warmth that I don't normally experience. Not to mention some of the worst windy-pops ever :o
We had several trips to the nearest town for macdonalds burgers (not the best, but better than no meat whatsoever).

[AVGWarhawk]

some of the worst windy-pops ever


Just like the damn bran bars my wife gives me. :down: Sure feel healthy but damn....:oops:

[Weiss Pinguin]

I must say this has made for interesting reading, while I eat my helping of bacon. (precooked)

Also, in response to this post:
In my pre-vegetarian days, I would have found that sandwich appetizing if it was just bacon or just beef. I never liked the taste of them put together.
which is where I left off reading last time, I must say that I pity your pre-vegetarian self. Bacon cheeseburgers are probably the greatest thing invented since sleep and bacon. And oxygen.

[frau kaleun]

Bacon cheeseburgers are probably the greatest thing invented since sleep and bacon. And oxygen.

:yep:

[MH]

.........greatest thing invented since sleep and bacon. And oxygen.

.....and atomic bomb.:D

[Oberon]

Atomic burgers?


I wonder if that's in New Vegas... :hmmm:

[frau kaleun]

http://rookery.s3.amazonaws.com/952000/952408_c3d4_625x1000.jpg

[Takeda Shingen]

Atomic burgers?


I wonder if that's in New Vegas... :hmmm:

There's a Bloatfly slider. Sounds uh....tasty.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Bloatfly_slider

[Weiss Pinguin]

But does it have bacon?

[Wolfehunter]

Canadian Bacon rules. :yeah: I cook bacon so much the hallways are filled with its smells. And I love it.. If others can't handle it they can kiss my arse. :O:

[JokerOfFate]

Now I'm hungry, for an Atom Burger :DL

[TarJak]

Just had chicken wrapped in proscuitto with a roasted capsicum sauce. Yum.

[Oberon]

There's a Bloatfly slider. Sounds uh....tasty.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Bloatfly_slider

:hmmm:

I think I'll stick with Squirrel on a stick. :yep:

[tater]

Atomic burgers?


I wonder if that's in New Vegas... :hmmm:

No, that would be a green chile cheeseburger at the owl bar which is just outside Stallion Gate (where the los alamos guys used to stop to eat on the way to the Trinity site.

Green chile cheeseburger FTW. Better than bacon.

[Tribesman]

Squirrel on a stick
I havn't tried that, squirrel yes , but on a stick?
Is it in some kind of batter?

Or is it more along the lines of "what has a hazelnut in every bite"?

[frau kaleun]

Better than bacon.

That's unpossible! :O:

[Takeda Shingen]

:hmmm:

I think I'll stick with Squirrel on a stick. :yep:

Based on the name alone, I was partial to Blamco Mac and Cheese, but it isn't in New Vegas. :cry:

[tater]

That's unpossible! :O:

I love bacon, but given the choice between green chile or bacon on a burger, it's green chile, no contest. In fact, I cannot even remember the last time I had a burger without green chile on it.

It was years ago.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Canadian Bacon rules. :yeah: I cook bacon so much the hallways are filled with its smells. And I love it.. If others can't handle it they can kiss my arse. :O:
Pff, your cheap canadian ham doesn't hold a candle to true bacon :O:

[Wolfehunter]

Pff, your cheap canadian ham doesn't hold a candle to true bacon :O: Ham? :doh::hmmm: You must be confused. Bacon isn't ham.. Smoke ham is ham.. Smoke bacon is bacon..

Below is BACON.
http://www.nodinesmokehouse.com/images/baconsampler3.jpg


Below is HAM.

http://www.cretafarms.com/retail/products/images/ham.jpg


Not the same.. dude. But I like both anyhow..:O::03:

[frau kaleun]

But this is Canadian "bacon":

http://www.wisconsinmade.com/assets/item/regular/2394-applewood-smoked-canadian-bacon-XL.jpg

Is it bacon? It doesn't look like bacon. It looks like ham. And yet they insist on calling it "bacon."

Clearly, Canadians cannot be trusted. :O:

[TarJak]

But this is Canadian "bacon":

http://www.wisconsinmade.com/assets/item/regular/2394-applewood-smoked-canadian-bacon-XL.jpg

Is it bacon? It doesn't look like bacon. It looks like ham. And yet they insist on calling it "bacon."

Clearly, Canadians cannot be trusted. :O:Never trust a Canuck who takes the bacon.:O:

[kiwi_2005]

But this is Canadian "bacon":

http://www.wisconsinmade.com/assets/item/regular/2394-applewood-smoked-canadian-bacon-XL.jpg

Is it bacon? It doesn't look like bacon. It looks like ham. And yet they insist on calling it "bacon."

Clearly, Canadians cannot be trusted. :O:

Its ham until you throw it in the frying pan and heat it up for a bit, then it becomes bacon. :yep: :D

[clive bradbury]

I can't be bothered to read 12 bacon-related pages, so if this has already been raised re the original post please forgive.

The British are afraid of muslims, eh? Does the original poster believe everything they read in the papers, or only that which fits with their insular world view? Another poster explained about the reliability of the Daily Mail.

A friend of mine works for the local authority involved (Stockport Council). The facts:

1. The planning permission is retrospective, in that the vent was placed without permission, and it is now being sought after a complaint by:
2. A non-muslim neighbour.
3. No decision about the incident has yet been made by the council.
4. Interestingly, the cafe owner IS a muslim, unlike the complainant. Don't see that little detail in the Daily Mail article, do we? Perhaps it does not fit in with their insular world view?

[SteamWake]

Muslims owning cafes ?! Now Im offended :har:

Its so unusual for the Mail to leave out facts like that ;)

[Sailor Steve]

I can't be bothered to read 12 bacon-related pages,
Can't be bothered? Sounds arrogant. "Don't have time", "more important things to do" are hardly better.

so if this has already been raised re the original post please forgive.
Sorry, can't be bothered.

[NeonSamurai]

Not getting enough bacon products today Steve? :03:


Anyhow I am vegetarian too, was actually raised as one. Though I did go through an experimental period (mainly when I studied to be a French Chef, and a few times earlier), I pretty much reverted back after a few years as it was simpler for me and saves me the moral/ethical headaches (I have huge ethical issues with current farming & fishing practices, particularly the factory farms).

So as for starting a vegetarian thread with recipes, I am game. I can supply a ton of non-substitute recipes (I HATE veg recipes which scratch out the word meat and write in tofu instead). In fact I think Ill get it started after this post.


I recently spent 10 days staying at a friends place in wales - he's a vegetarian and would not let us cook any meat in his house. We were there doing some building work to help him out. Most of the food we ate was veggie. As a confirmed omnivore, I don't mind the alternatives to proper meat, but I did find a noticeable lack of energy/warmth that I don't normally experience. Not to mention some of the worst windy-pops ever :o
We had several trips to the nearest town for macdonalds burgers (not the best, but better than no meat whatsoever).

Unless that guy was really screwing up (which is possible), your problem was likely psychosomatic (in your head). Veg food has a ton of energy (carbs, fats, & sugars) unless it's like all leafy greens. Protein actually is one of the hardest things for the body to process and excessive quantities (aside from nitrogen poisoning) will make you feel exhausted (common problem with body builders who don't understand nutrition and take way to much protein). The best energy sources are the sugars family (including carbs) and fats, both offer high amounts of energy, and are cleanly metabolized.

As for the gas, ya that's a problem, especially with high fiber diets.

[tater]

I'm almost as non-vegetarian as Tony Bourdain. That said, I could almost imagine being a vegetarian in India. There were periods in Nepal where I was effectively vegetarian, and I absolutely craved meat. Even a fried egg was like having a steak after a while.

Still, having good vegie recipes would be really useful since I do have vegetarian friends, and I'd like to have "foodie" stuff on the table for them, too.

Funny story. Knew a vegetarian guy (from NYC) who loved asian food. We went out to a vietnamese place, and he got tyhe vegetarian spring rolls. The spring rolls indeed had no meat in them. He's dipping the things in nam pla, lol.

I didn't say anything. He'd been eating such food for years, and it had never occurred to him that the thin "sweet/sour" sauce he always got was fish juice.

A friend who is a more careful vegetarian said it's hard because many thai and vietnamese places call it vegetarian if there is no chunks of meat (or seafood) in the dish, but since fish sauce is their salt... it never occurs to them not to put THAT in. There's really no such thing as thai food without it...

[XabbaRus]

Ha i lieved with a guy who was a fishetarian. Fine that was his decision but myself I like everything. Now we had to live together as we both worked for the same school in Moscow and when ever I cooked bacon he had to make snooty comments about how it smelled...as if his fish that he did sometimes didn't smell.

That's what bugs me about some vegetarians..most i have know are cool and don't mind if I cooked meat but I have known a few who were real nazis.

not getting at you neon, but I can understand where jumpy was coming from.

[NeonSamurai]

That's what bugs me about some vegetarians..most i have know are cool and don't mind if I cooked meat but I have known a few who were real nazis.

not getting at you neon, but I can understand where jumpy was coming from.

Oh no worries mate :) I just wanted to address a common misconception that vegetarians have energy problems (the weak pasty tree-hugger image). As for that guy, well I can understand his desire to keep the stuff out of his home. Some vegetarians find the stuff very offensive (to the point of making them feel physically ill).

I have to admit I generally do not care for the smell of cooking meat, and I really dislike the smell of fish (that rotting mucous smell). But then I have also had some really bad experiences in the restaurant industry.

I've also known plenty of non vegetarian who are equally nazi-esque in their attitudes and behaviour. Your diet is not what makes you an ass****. ;)


A friend who is a more careful vegetarian said it's hard because many thai and vietnamese places call it vegetarian if there is no chunks of meat (or seafood) in the dish, but since fish sauce is their salt... it never occurs to them not to put THAT in. There's really no such thing as thai food without it...

If you do not want to have any contact with meat products, you almost have to avoid eating out. It is very difficult to avoid in most kinds of restaurants. They may coat pans with lard, or use meat stocks, or the pile of other ways you can have it present. Good Chinese restaurants are a bit better as they do have a long history of vegetarian cooking with some of the Buddhist sects. Some of the Thai stuff doesn't have fish sauce though, but ya you gotta watch it.

[Wolfehunter]

But this is Canadian "bacon":

http://www.wisconsinmade.com/assets/item/regular/2394-applewood-smoked-canadian-bacon-XL.jpg

Is it bacon? It doesn't look like bacon. It looks like ham. And yet they insist on calling it "bacon."

Clearly, Canadians cannot be trusted. :O:This isn't bacon... Its something... not bacon...

[XabbaRus]

neon the thing about this guy is that it wasn't his flat it wa a company one.

I remember back in teh day that the vegetarian option on British menus was some variant of a nut roast.


There are a lot of veggy things I like.

[Penguin]

I read somewhere, that GB has the highest percentage of vegetarians from all western countries. Regarding the choice of british supermarkets and restaurants, I tend to believe so. :up:
However peas with mint are not a vegetarian dish, they are a crime against humanity!

[nikimcbee]

Bacon, ham, I love it all!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zx740v7y8ic/Sc-ok0d5S0I/AAAAAAAAAus/uiM3_4jycgU/s400/DressedBostonTerrierRhett.jpg

[TarJak]

I can't believe someone could be so pig headed to bring up a beef about the smell of Bacon.

[Weiss Pinguin]

You know what they say, "Pearls to swine."

[Tribesman]

Bacon is nasty, the daily mail says so

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTu7GLfrmUI&feature=fvsr

[gimpy117]

But this is Canadian "bacon":

http://www.wisconsinmade.com/assets/item/regular/2394-applewood-smoked-canadian-bacon-XL.jpg

Is it bacon? It doesn't look like bacon. It looks like ham. And yet they insist on calling it "bacon."

Clearly, Canadians cannot be trusted. :O:



disregard Canada,
if its not from the belly area and smoked, it's not bacon.

[Jimbuna]

Did someone mention bacon?

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/6125/swinefluy.jpg

[NeonSamurai]

neon the thing about this guy is that it wasn't his flat it wa a company one.

I meant the guy Jumpy was referring to, not your flat mate as I don't think he had any right to complain. I can't think of anything worse smelling then old fish.

[Weiss Pinguin]

I meant the guy Jumpy was referring to, not your flat mate as I don't think he had any right to complain. I can't think of anything worse smelling then old fish.
uncooked bacon :D