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K-61
10-14-10, 01:46 PM
This is a weird one. I used torpedoes and gunnery to sink four vessels of various sizes and did not receive credit for them, even though I witnessed them slip beneath the waves. Can this happen if you are viewing them externally and/or under time compression? It really ticks me off that I put all that effort into sinking a Granville, a small freighter and two trawlers only not to receive credit. This was on the third patrol of my current career, so it is not the first patrol bug.
desirableroasted
10-14-10, 02:06 PM
Sounds fishy.

I've not been credited a few times, and older salts told me it could be because the weather got the credit -- apparently this can happen in rough seas.

And I dimly remember reading that saving in the presence of a wounded ship can cause credit problems -- of course, saving in the presence of any ship can cause problems.

But four in one patrol sounds like something systemic.

EDIT: Did you get the "She's going down" message & the red icon? Because if you got those and didn't get credit, something is certainly hinky.
flag4
10-14-10, 02:13 PM
...neutrals?
...leaving scene too early?
...think you have to get the RED sunk ship icon to collect credits

...others will explain better:03:
K-61
10-14-10, 07:55 PM
The weather was not too rough. On some I used the deck gun only, on others both torpedoes and guns. On all four occasions I did not get the sinking message and no red X appeared on the map, yet I saw each ship sink beneath the sea and leave rafts and debris. It's very weird as I have never seen anything quite like this. I was close enough to visually observe all four sink, so I definitely did not leave the area and travel outside of the SH3 world. The only possible villain I can think of is time compression, but I have received the sinking message before and after that while under time compression. They were also definite hostiles as all four were British.
Sockeye
10-14-10, 08:55 PM
Credit is overrated, me thinks: zee Blue Max eez just a badge.

:sunny:
Snestorm
10-14-10, 09:34 PM
Install any mods lately?
Hans Uberman
10-14-10, 09:57 PM
I've had this happen during my current campaign, involving a Large Merchant. In disgust I loaded my previous save and the ship did not appear again. Sinkings have been fine since then. The weather could not have been calmer, and I haven't changed any mods recently.
Captain Nemo
10-15-10, 02:32 AM
[QUOTE=flag4;1514825...think you have to get the RED sunk ship icon to collect credits[/QUOTE]

I sometimes get the grey icon or no icon at all but still get the message "she's going down" and they appear in my log. I think rough sea has something to do with it and I often wonder at the end of the patrol if I actually got renown for these sinkings. It doesn't bother me too much as I still get the tonnage:yeah:.

Nemo
Jimbuna
10-15-10, 08:36 AM
If you don't get the "She's going down" message you won't get the credit.

This wasn't your first patrol by any chance?
K-61
10-15-10, 02:43 PM
Nope. All the relevant info has been included above. This was the third patrol in my career, with the original mod set with which the war commenced. I also had a few sinkings for which I received credit but no red X appeared on the map. So far, in patrol 4 all sinkings have been credited. I shall be monitoring this on an ongoing basis.
Jimbuna
10-15-10, 03:04 PM
Nope. All the relevant info has been included above. This was the third patrol in my career, with the original mod set with which the war commenced. I also had a few sinkings for which I received credit but no red X appeared on the map. So far, in patrol 4 all sinkings have been credited. I shall be monitoring this on an ongoing basis.

Yes...ongoing monitoring of the situation is a good idea, it sounds like the stoooooopid SH3 game engine gremlins didn't like something you've got installed for a short while.
K-61
10-15-10, 03:07 PM
I really can't think what it could have been, other than some screwup from time compression. I am using the same assortment of mods I have used for many patrols, so if that was where the problem lays it should have manifested before now. In any event, ongoing monitoring from now forward.
Madox58
10-15-10, 05:34 PM
Do you have a newer version of SH3 without StarForce?
Or are you running the ReLoaded hack?
I ask because I am still looking at issues with saved games being whacked.
Side issues such as this may also be relevent to what I'm working on.
K-61
10-15-10, 07:04 PM
I'm running the hacked version as I do not own a SF-free disc.
Madox58
10-15-10, 08:17 PM
That is what I thought.
:yep:
Sh3, as released with StarForce, was broken.
The Reloaded Hack makes issues even worse!

I,
and others,
can say without any doubt,
the StarForce free files show much less problems in many areas.
Why Ubi has not released the StarForce free files as a download?
Well,
They gave us SH5.
Right?
:har:
K-61
10-16-10, 02:08 PM
Privateer, I really appreciate your reply, as well as your work on the game. I will definitely try to lay hands on a SF-free disc. Is there any way of identifying such a disc? I suppose Amazon.ca or another online site would have it, but I want to make absolutely sure I do not buy another early release disc.
Jimbuna
10-16-10, 02:50 PM
Click on the Quick Links (upper right) and select the Amazon link (that way SS will receive a small percentage).

Look for the Revival version (I have posted the UK link to assist you.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Hunter-III-PC-DVD/dp/B0035ER6F0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1287258402&sr=8-1
K-61
10-16-10, 05:25 PM
Is there a way to get the disc via Amazon in Canada and still have Subsim get a donation?
K-61
10-16-10, 05:27 PM
Belay that order! I see an Amazon Canada link. Looks like we'll both win; I'll get a disc without SF and Subsim will get a slice of the action.
K-61
10-16-10, 05:47 PM
I've visited the Amazon.ca site via the Subsim portal. There are three different SH3's offered, for different prices. How do I tell which version is SF-free?
K-61
10-16-10, 05:49 PM
If I can't determine which one does not have SF, I'd rather have someone who has a SF-free copy make me one and then I'll donate the price to Subsim. It won't be piracy as I already have the original game disc.
Sailor Steve
10-16-10, 07:05 PM
I would go with the Revival copy, just to be on the safe side. The other two are probably okay as well, but they say 'Strategic Simulations' on them. I doubt they are original old copies, but you never know...

Also, it's very easy for anyone here in the States to send you a cheap copy, if they're compatible. :sunny:
leito_b
10-16-10, 09:59 PM
Hello. Endly I did install SH III (1.4) , crack No DVD, Mods LSH3 v5 , and GW3.0 and I can play (W7 Ultimate). Board Sound Blaster Live 24 (internal). There is a bug sound. The sound is delayed
What can be?????
Tessa
10-17-10, 02:35 AM
That is what I thought.
:yep:
Sh3, as released with StarForce, was broken.
The Reloaded Hack makes issues even worse!

I,
and others,
can say without any doubt,
the StarForce free files show much less problems in many areas.
Why Ubi has not released the StarForce free files as a download?
Well,
They gave us SH5.
Right?
:har:

The DD version I purchased I think was directly from Ubisoft (can't find the receipt, would have been late 2006) and was already patched to 1.4 without any StarForce crap. This thing's been my savior and kept me from dealing with so many problems that plague others :DL
Captain Nemo
10-18-10, 07:26 AM
That is what I thought.
:yep:
Sh3, as released with StarForce, was broken.
The Reloaded Hack makes issues even worse!

Interesting, although I must say that I have an original copy of SH3 with starforce and use some old hack to get round having the DVD in the drive and the save game problem has affected me only a few times in 4 years or so playing SH3 on a regular basis.

Nemo