Weird Subsim warning message

[K-61]

Me and another guy over at Ubi were surprised earlier today to find that we could not view the Subsim page. IE8 kept giving me a security warning that the site was unsafe, and in spite of reporting it as safe and clicking on continue anyway, Nanny Gates would not let me in. So I dumped IE in favour of Firefox; overdue move anyways. Everything is loading fine now. Weird.

[HW3]

Yeah I picked up a Trojan somewhere that mimics MS security essentials. It flagged subsim as infected with both IE and Firefox. It wanted me to run a online scan. It was a bugger to get rid of.

[frau kaleun]

Lots of other reports and info here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=175495

[K-61]

Thanks, FK.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Welcome to the world of Firefox. I've used it for years and occasionally dip into another new browser but always back to Firefox.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:fAnCnbI4S1RG-M:http://www.stupidie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/firefox02-08-08.jpg&t=1

[Magic1111]

Lots of other reports and info here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=175495

Thank you for the Link, I become with IE8 the same warning messages....

Best regards,
Magic

[K-61]

Welcome to the world of Firefox. I've used it for years and occasionally dip into another new browser but always back to Firefox.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:fAnCnbI4S1RG-M:http://www.stupidie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/firefox02-08-08.jpg&t=1

I have used FF a few times over the years, but as an IT student I told myself to stick with IE, both for its familiarity and in order to know it for tech support purposes. I really liked IE8 on my W7 system, but it's nannyism [is that word or did I just invent a new one?] on this issue has pushed me over the edge. I really dislike software that offers you the "freedom" to proceed past a warning message, giving you the illusion that you can continue, then yanks it away again after you proceed. Sorry, Nanny Gates, but I don't want to be your Charlie Brown anymore.

[Jimbuna]

I have used FF a few times over the years, but as an IT student I told myself to stick with IE, both for its familiarity and in order to know it for tech support purposes. I really liked IE8 on my W7 system, but it's nannyism [is that word or did I just invent a new one?] on this issue has pushed me over the edge. I really dislike software that offers you the "freedom" to proceed past a warning message, giving you the illusion that you can continue, then yanks it away again after you proceed. Sorry, Nanny Gates, but I don't want to be your Charlie Brown anymore.


I tend to agree with you :yep:

[Draka]

As someone who has been in IT since the 80's - I ONLY use/support MSIE when on the job - and as I am about to "celebrate" my 3rd anniversary of unemployment it's been a while. Firefox all the way - with an occasional side trip to Opera.

[Madox58]

I use only IE no matter the version.
I have very little problems anywhere.
Most of those type 'Hi-jacks' to IE come from known places.
AVG Free stops most of them for me and I fix the others myself.
I've had no problems with SubSim that I can recall.
:hmmm:

[frau kaleun]

I use only IE no matter the version.
I have very little problems anywhere.

Same here - I've tried Firefox in the past, and maybe one of the other ones that a lot of people seem to like - but as I was already accustomed to how IE looks and works, and have never had any problems with it, getting used to a different browser always felt like more hassle than it was worth.

Now after a little googling on the topic of ad-blocking, I'm using IE8's InPrivate Filtering to auto-block all the same stuff that I would block if I were using those plug-ins with another browser. That just makes the idea of fiddling with an alternative even less appealing... blocking ads from certain sites was the only reason I looked at Firefox to begin with, and now I don't need it for that.

[K-61]

I'd not have switched if IE had allowed me to proceed into Subsim, but after offering me the option to proceed, then blocking me anyway after I clicked the ignore the warning box it still blocked me. I don't get why they offer you the choice of proceeding if they are not going to let you proceed. Typical Microsux logic.

[K-61]

Hmmm. Several times this evening while browsing this site, Norton has popped up and said it has blocked "Bloodhound.Exploit357." I'm NOT saying there is a problem with this site, just pointing out that these two occurrences have coincided a few times. It is apparently a plug-in related item as my Norton 360 Premiere reports it. I am now using Firefox. When I visit Subsim I get a message at the top of the page saying a plug-in is missing and FF cannot locate the proper plug-in that this site supposedly wants.

[K-61]

The warning from Norton came up again after I exited Firefox. See? Just because something is a coincidence doesn't mean it is related. I've run a registry cleaner and another utility and will keep an eye on it to see if it pops up again. Norton tells me the malicious item has been blocked, but can't tell me where exactly it originated. Just because it popped up while browsing here does not necessarily mean it originated here.

[JScones]

I use IE9 on Win7 64-bit. I used to use FF, but they're starting to drag their feet, or more's the point, IE has caught up and IMHO has now overtaken them. Now if only Flash would move to the 64-bit world (or, alternatively, everyone replace Flash with Silverlight)...

Anyway, my two "Fort Knox" computers haven't reported Subsim as being dodgy for a few hours, so hopefully things are now, at least temporarily, OK. There have been times over the last week or so when this site, and this site only, has lit my computers up like a Christmas Tree (and I use different security systems on each for this exact reason).

[K-61]

Thank you, Jaesen. It helps me to rest at ease that someone more tech savvy than myself also gives this site a thumbs up. I really wish that the folks who have the skills to mess with other peoples computers would instead devote their skills to bettering the lot of humanity.

[JScones]

I remember back in the 1990's leading a team of programmers who developed a lot of VBA code (to integrate externally developed software into MS Office for the largest network in the southern hemisphere). This was in the day of macro viruses. My guys were amazed when I pointed out to them that a mere two or so extra lines of code could turn their legitimate programming into feral viruses. I showed them the extra lines needed and assured them that if I ever caught them writing malicious code I would kick their backsides out on the street so fast. Call it boundary setting, but to this day they are still good friends and mighty good programmers.

The moral of the story is that it's a very fine line between legitimate software and malicious software. I mean, JSGME, for example, could very easily trawl your computer for passwords (because you have to elevate permissions to run it) and you would never know. Of course, it doesn't, and NEVER will, but it highlights the importance of user trust and brand reputation.

[K-61]

I'm starting to get freaked out. As I just now launched Subsim, I got two warnings about trojans that popped up after I closed the "You need to install missing plugins" banner at the top of the page. Is anybody else seeing this? What plugins are needed to view additional media on this page anyway? I never got that message when I viewed Subsim with IE8.

[SeaWolf U-57]

??? I have IE8 64bit running now and it has version of flash player loaded
You will find it under beta test version works great in Windows 7 :up:

[SeaWolf U-57]

I'm starting to get freaked out. As I just now launched Subsim, I got two warnings about trojans that popped up after I closed the "You need to install missing plugins" banner at the top of the page. Is anybody else seeing this? What plugins are needed to view additional media on this page anyway? I never got that message when I viewed Subsim with IE8.

I had it this morning its good old java again :nope:

Edit ... When I was using Firefox

[SeaWolf U-57]

Why not give the new version of FireFox a spin its only a beta version

Download it here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/)

[SeaWolf U-57]

Ok here is something strange when you enter subsim using IE8 the advert France
Now accepting captains is complete and has a blue border around it.
When using FireFox the advert only half loads and no blue border :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

I'd not have switched if IE had allowed me to proceed into Subsim, but after offering me the option to proceed, then blocking me anyway after I clicked the ignore the warning box it still blocked me. I don't get why they offer you the choice of proceeding if they are not going to let you proceed. Typical Microsux logic.

Can't remember who the original quote was from but:

"The day Microsoft make something that doesn't suck, it'll be a vacuum cleaner!" :har:

[FIREWALL]

I haven't had any problem with IE8. I also use Avast too.

[K-61]

Today I logged on using FF and I did not receive the warning. Prior to visiting this site I had to install the Windows Media Player in order to listen to Howard Stern on Sirius. I wonder if that was the plug-in I was being nagged to install?

[K-61]

For several days I have been unable to post on Subsim with IE9 Beta. My input window font has changed for some reason, and every post I try to submit says I must input at least three characters, even though I would type in several sentences. I am able to post using Firefox, so I have both browsers in use depending on which forums I wish to post to. I do find FF easier for forum activities. IE9 Beta has changed the position of my favourites to the right side of the page and as far as I can see, has no option to relocate it to the left side. What a stupid decision on MS's part; at least they could allow the user the option of its placement, but that's Microsoft's way of doing things: "Where would you like to go today, if we allow you to do so?"

[K-61]

Something strange is going on. Now I get a warning, supposedly from Google Advisor, when I visit Subsim with Firefox. And now, I can view Subsim using IE9 beta.

[Hans Uberman]

Same here. Below is an image of the warning. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Endless_Knight/images/warning.png

[Marko]

Same here. Below is an image of the warning. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Endless_Knight/images/warning.png

That kind of message is appearing also to me not only on subsim forum but also on Oblivion Mod page and Empire at War mod page, i must say that this google advisor is getting more annoying than a virus!!!!!!

[K-61]

Guys, you have no idea how your posting of those images reassures me, that I am not some paranoid kook with a unique problem. I was beginning to think that I was becoming some kind of crank.

[Captain J. Borne]

Thats because some people you pissed off all got together and "reported" the page, or microsoft i.e crashed so many times on the site it was auto reported, depending on the OS your using.

I use opera. By far the coolest and funnest browser I have discovered. (And I have never had these issues with this site)

[HW3]

This is what you see when you click to find out why it is being reported as an attack site.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/davestev47/ScreenHunter_01Oct182254.jpg

[java`s revenge]

Same problem here what hans uberman and HW3 showed.

I am using firefox.

[papa_smurf]

Im on Firefox(Beta6), and had to adjust my security settings to let me in.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I've just added my two-penneth in the previous thread (Java probs in Comments to SubSim).

The other week when these issues first reared their ugly head I only got one trojan alert and that was after almost a week of other people reporting problems, then today I got the lovely red square that other people reported and are pictured above and the same links to Google's security sites.

I too use Firefox, both 3.6.10 and 4 beta 6, but I stopped using beta 6 after the initial warnings as I use McAfee SiteAdvisor which isn't compatible yet for the beta, and the other day I couldn't get any page with beta 6 at all!

Ho, hum! I'm off to thoroughly scan now :nope:


Edit: Scans using McAfee, SuperAntiSpyware and Malwarebytes all came back clean, as expected!

[the.terrabyte.pirate]

I'm getting the warning message in both Firefox and Chrome.

I hope this is fixed soon.

[desirableroasted]

Neal Stevens has posted a message to us all here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/announcement.php?f=182