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SteamWake
09-29-10, 12:26 PM
Somone needs to explain to them that the cold war era is over. Most of this is so 60's.
http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitech/2010/06/01/iranian-military-tech/#slide=1
Weiss Pinguin
09-29-10, 01:22 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/Scitech/Copter%20Patrols_604x500.jpg
Thought this picture looked really cool :yep:
Also,
Iran frequently makes announcements about new advances in military technology that cannot be independently verified.
:lol:
Jimbuna
09-29-10, 01:28 PM
I saw this on another thread here yesterday.
I still maintain my original comment..."fetch me my catapult" :O:
Weiss Pinguin
09-29-10, 02:16 PM
I saw this on another thread here yesterday.
I still maintain my original comment..."fetch me my catapult" :O:
http://www.stustake.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Tank-Catapult.jpg
Dimitrius07
09-29-10, 07:23 PM
Somone needs to explain to them that the cold war era is over. Most of this is so 60's.
http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitech/2010/06/01/iranian-military-tech/#slide=1
Why? We have countries like Russia who sell them some of they old stuff (and latter they talk about sanctions) and other maniacs who try to scare me with this awesome tech (my father became familiar with some of it very well during his time in the former soviet army ^^) . Don`t spoil the fun, MAN.
papa_smurf
09-30-10, 06:51 AM
Looks like Iran has been to a few garage sales.
Jimbuna
10-02-10, 05:03 AM
http://www.stustake.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Tank-Catapult.jpg
LOL :DL
Betonov
10-02-10, 05:29 AM
http://www.yetnet.ch/rm/id/download/Civilization3-01.jpg
Castout
10-02-10, 05:31 AM
Imo Iran is alright North Korea is another story.:hmmm:
I've a feeling they will befriend US sooner or later . . . . .
They're not as bad as some people would imagine.
Their urban young are idealistic, patriotic, modern and friendly to the west!
Great things could come to Iran if their elite are willing to allow change bit by bit.
Of course Israel would want the world to believe otherwise.
Happy Times
10-02-10, 05:38 AM
Imo Iran is alright North Korea is another story.:hmmm:
I've a feeling they will befriend US sooner or later . . . . .
They're not as bad as some people would imagine.
Their urban young are idealistic, patriotic, modern and friendly to the west!
Great things could come to Iran if their elite are willing to change bit by bit.
I have a lot of sympathy for those youth but the educated urban young are not he majority.
If they were, Iran would be the natural friend to the west in the region.
Persia was lost when the Arabs invaded and destroyed Zoroastrianism and the great culture it represented.
Betonov
10-02-10, 05:54 AM
The old farts running Iran today will one day die and a new generation will take power.
Castout
10-02-10, 06:10 AM
I have a lot of sympathy for those youth but the educated urban young are not he majority.
If they were, Iran would be the natural friend to the west in the region.
Persia was lost when the Arabs invaded and destroyed Zoroastrianism and the great culture it represented.
The rural population also don't hold any grudge or animosity towards the west in general.
In my opinion relation between US and Iran will get warmer in the short or medium future.
Give it ten years to see if this opinion is true or otherwise :D
Iran population is unlike Iraq really. Iraqis had been subjugated through intimidation by Saddam dictatorship for decades and lost the ability for critical thinking. Iran's population is in far better situation.:DL
I have opinion why Iran is doing what it is doing or raving what it is raving and .....(I better keep this opinion to myself)...the signs are good I just want to say that
Happy Times
10-02-10, 06:26 AM
The rural population also don't hold any grudge or animosity towards the west in general.
In my opinion relation between US and Iran will get warmer in the short or medium future.
Give it ten years to see if this opinion is true or otherwise :D
Iran population is unlike Iraq really. Iraqis had been subjugated through intimidation by Saddam dictatorship for decades and lost the ability for critical thinking. Iran's population is in far better situation.:DL
I have opinion why Iran is doing what it is doing or raving what it is raving and .....(I better keep this opinion to myself)...the signs are good I just want to say that
The audacity of hope?
Castout
10-02-10, 06:14 PM
My opinion? yeah maybe that.
awesome catapult vs mech inf pic
http://awesome.redial.net/tankkill2.gif
Platapus
10-02-10, 06:25 PM
I would not knock "old technology". :nope:
Consider what the Afghans did to the Russians in the 1980's with "old technology"
Consider what Iran did to Iraq with "old technology" in the 1980's
Consider what Iraq did to the US with "old technology" during the Invasion of Iraq.
It is dangerous to underestimate what a motivated enemy can do to you with "old technology". :yep:
It does not matter much whether you are killed with a 2010 Hell-fire missile or killed with a bundled WWII ordnance IED. :nope:
It is not about the technology but the motivation of the soldier to his or her cause that wins battles.
http://www.military-art.com/mall/images/dhm267.jpg
gimpy117
10-02-10, 07:28 PM
I would not knock "old technology". :nope:
Consider what the Afghans did to the Russians in the 1980's with "old technology"
Consider what Iran did to Iraq with "old technology" in the 1980's
Consider what Iraq did to the US with "old technology" during the Invasion of Iraq.
It is dangerous to underestimate what a motivated enemy can do to you with "old technology". :yep:
It does not matter much whether you are killed with a 2010 Hell-fire missile or killed with a bundled WWII ordnance IED. :nope:
It is not about the technology but the motivation of the soldier to his or her cause that wins battles.
okay...WE gave the Taliban new weaponry in the 80's such as the stinger missile. As to Iraq, casualty reports from iraq show that, although we lost many good men...the opposing forces lost many, many more. And a Bomb is a bomb. Sure, they can put TnT on a road and detonate with a car battery...but can their ordinance fly through a window or bust a bunker deep underground? Nope.
nice try, our military is Set up for a ground war vs. another nation. not gurilla activities. Iran would be toast. All the motivation in the world won't stop that hellfire from destroying your tank.
Raptor1
10-02-10, 07:37 PM
okay...WE gave the Taliban new weaponry in the 80's such as the stinger missile. As to Iraq, casualty reports from iraq show that, although we lost many good men...the opposing forces lost many, many more. And a Bomb is a bomb. Sure, they can put TnT on a road and detonate with a car battery...but can their ordinance fly through a window or bust a bunker deep underground? Nope.
nice try, our military is Set up for a ground war vs. another nation. not gurilla activities. Iran would be toast. All the motivation in the world won't stop that hellfire from destroying your tank.
Mujahideen, not Taliban. The Taliban did not become a factor until after the Soviets withdrew.
Your point is valid, though. Those forces never actually tactically won a single major battle against their better equipped and trained enemies, they inflicted damage simply by continuing to exist and harass the enemy over prolonged periods of time. The French were under the impression that motivation won battles in 1914 as well and it did not do them much good.
Betonov
10-03-10, 05:38 AM
http://awesome.redial.net/tankkill2.gif
a Civ fan I see :03:
not to derail the thread: Iranian leaders are just longing for attention. We should humor them so they dont do anything stupid ignored people tend to do
Castout
10-03-10, 07:31 AM
not to derail the thread: Iranian leaders are just longing for attention
yea that, that could be their way of trying to make friends with the west :haha:
May seem strange but . . .
gimpy117
10-03-10, 03:14 PM
a Civ fan I see :03:
not to derail the thread: Iranian leaders are just longing for attention. We should humor them so they dont do anything stupid ignored people tend to do
yeah, my roomie had a game where he was killing calvary with a giant robot :salute:
TLAM Strike
10-03-10, 10:04 PM
yeah, my roomie had a game where he was killing calvary with a giant robot :salute:
Did you know that US SOF forces along with the Northern Alliance during Operation Enduring Freedom did a Cavalry Charge against the Taliban? The SECDEF called their attacks the 1st US cavalry charge of the 21st century.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9585/usforcesoperationenduri.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/usforcesoperationenduri.jpg/)
one of the troops involved wrote a book about it... (http://www.mensjournal.com/the-charge-of-the-911-brigade)
Did you know that US SOF forces along with the Northern Alliance during Operation Enduring Freedom did a Cavalry Charge against the Taliban? The SECDEF called their attacks the 1st US cavalry charge of the 21st century.
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9585/usforcesoperationenduri.th.jpg (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/usforcesoperationenduri.jpg/)
one of the troops involved wrote a book about it... (http://www.mensjournal.com/the-charge-of-the-911-brigade)
Awesome :yeah:
The British Army has a weapon that never grows old:
The British Army performed bayonet charges during the Falklands War, the Second Gulf War, and the war in Afghanistan. Recently in Iraq at the Battle of Danny Boy, the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders bayonet charged mortar positions filled with over 100 Mahdi Army members. The ensuing hand to hand fighting resulted in an estimate of over 40 insurgents killed and 35 bodies collected (many floated down the river) and 9 prisoners. Sergeant Brian Wood, of the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, was awarded the Military Cross for his part in the battle. This engagement brought to notice the tactical use of the weapon for close combat and the sheer psychological effect it can have. Similarly, in 2009, Lieutenant James Adamson, aged 24, of the Royal Regiment of Scotland was awarded the Military Cross for a bayonet charge whilst on a tour of duty in Afghanistan: after shooting one Taliban fighter dead Adamson had run out of ammunition when another enemy appeared. Adamson immediately charged the second Taliban fighter and bayoneted him.
Herr-Berbunch
10-04-10, 08:45 AM
That pic of the Saeqeh is like somebody photoshopped an F18 tail onto an F5. :nope: :har:
TLAM Strike
10-04-10, 09:57 AM
That pic of the Saeqeh is like somebody photoshopped an F18 tail onto an F5. :nope: :har:
Funny thing is that its not... they really took a worn out F-5 Tiger and rebuilt it with a F/A-18 style tail then declared it a totally new aircraft. :roll:
Herr-Berbunch
10-04-10, 11:02 AM
Lol, so a huge payload of erm, just the two sidewinders then? Some fighter :haha:
Weiss Pinguin
10-04-10, 01:41 PM
http://awesome.redial.net/tankkill2.gif
Spearman beats everything!
Jimbuna
10-04-10, 03:06 PM
Spearman beats everything!
Apart from the British Bayonet Man :smug::DL
TLAM Strike
10-04-10, 03:20 PM
Lol, so a huge payload of erm, just the two sidewinders then? Some fighter :haha:
The F-5 never carried much. It has just seven hardpoints, 2 on the wing tips for 'winders or tanks, four on the wings for bombs or light missiles (IIRC 2 could carry AIM9 and two could carry Mavs, Zunis or Bombs but no MERs) and a centerline tank or bomb. :03:
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/1917/northropyf5a.th.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/northropyf5a.jpg/)
This pic shows the hardpoints well.
Legionary74
10-04-10, 04:18 PM
"Iranian military technology"
Contradiction in terms?
Takeda Shingen
10-04-10, 04:27 PM
http://awesome.redial.net/tankkill2.gif
:haha:
I didn't see this until just now. Ah, Sid Meier.
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