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In a desperate bid to reduce the amount of new threads about the same person and same subject being created. Here is The Obama Thread (tm).
In this thread you can post about all the new bad things Obama has done and why he is ruining America, likewise you can post about all the good things Obama has done and how he is doing good things for America.
All new stories, new email circulations, copy and pastes with no links...all of them go here.
This is in order to adhere to the 'Subsim.com Radio Room Rules and Acceptable Use Policies'
Please do not engage in "topic spamming", where you post several threads on the essentially the same topic in a short period of time. If you want to discuss women's synchronized swimming, fine; start a topic on it. But don't start another topic on women's synchronized swimming clothing, women's synchronized swimming schedules, etc. for several weeks. Same goes with threads on politics, religon, and cultural issues. We don't need six threads on "Obama is ruining America" and eight topics on "Arabs are Evillll!" on the same page.
Aaaand Begin:
Bubblehead1980
09-23-10, 03:46 PM
Most of the threads are not about Obama but about different topics, therefore no one should post here unless it's a SPECIFIC complaint or praise about Obama.Trying to force people to put it all in one thread will take away from different subjects and become confusing.So stop trying to shut down the debate on various subjects relating but not specifically about Barry O, thanks.
Wow, a Obama tread great, Who is the man by the way :cool:
mookiemookie
09-23-10, 04:15 PM
Most of the threads are not about Obama but about different topics, therefore no one should post here unless it's a SPECIFIC complaint or praise about Obama.Trying to force people to put it all in one thread will take away from different subjects and become confusing.So stop trying to shut down the debate on various subjects relating but not specifically about Barry O, thanks.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=topic+spamming&match=all&titlesonly=0
Please do not engage in "topic spamming", where you post several threads on the essentially the same topic in a short period of time. If you want to discuss women's synchronized swimming, fine; start a topic on it. But don't start another topic on women's synchronized swimming clothing, women's synchronized swimming schedules, etc. for several weeks. Same goes with threads on politics, religon, and cultural issues. We don't need six threads on "Obama is ruining America" and eight topics on "Arabs are Evillll!" on the same page.
Bubblehead1980
09-23-10, 04:22 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?s=&do=search&q=topic+spamming&match=all&titlesonly=0
yes yes I read that and it means nothing to me.Posting threads that have different subjects but BHO comes up somehow is NOT spamming.Don't try to use a loose interpretation of subsim rules to slow or shut down the debate.
Jimbuna
09-23-10, 04:23 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x8G7khv0/SiWb_r-nlLI/AAAAAAAAE5M/XF1aNZziEdw/s400/obama-hair-cut.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XU9x8G7khv0/SiWb_r-nlLI/AAAAAAAAE5M/XF1aNZziEdw/s1600-h/obama-hair-cut.jpg)
Takeda Shingen
09-23-10, 04:24 PM
yes yes I read that and it means nothing to me.Posting threads that have different subjects but BHO comes up somehow is NOT spamming.Don't try to use a loose interpretation of subsim rules to slow or shut down the debate.
That's not a loose interpretation of the rules. It is exactly what the rules say. Topic spamming is not permitted. Fine if you want to talk about Obama. Use one of the many existing threads.
The threads may start on different topics, but they all seem to end up in the same place.
:nope:
Aramike
09-23-10, 04:32 PM
But really, is it necessary to start yet ANOTHER Obama thread when the topic could have just as easily been moved to one of the many existing ones? :timeout:
Bubblehead1980
09-23-10, 04:35 PM
Well if that happens razark, it happens but its not spamming, it would get confusing and difficult to follow a discussion if everyone even related to Obama were in one thread.
So I implore everyone to ignore the ridiculous request to only post in the Obama thread if its a different subject such as healthcare etc that may end up with Obama mentioned.This is just certain people making an effort to slow down the debate.
I agree, if it's just about Obama, post here but if its a different subject that may involve him a some point, create a new thread.
Example1:I am sick of Obama, he is scum etc etc....post here
Example2:The Healthcare bill is already harming America.I can't believe Barry O signed it.The taxes and so on.Post in a new thread.
XabbaRus
09-23-10, 04:35 PM
bubblehead I merged all the Obama threads as they were essentially all along the same lines, basically about how bad Obama and his policies are.
No one is shutting down discussion as there was little discussion, just post after post about how bad Obama is and how he is destroying America in particular how you feel about him. Now you can post in the merged thread or this one but when I come into GT and see several Obama related threads that are nothing but opinion generated as fact and that they seem to be dominating GT then house will be cleaned.
I don't know if you were here at the time but we had a user called subman1 who basically spammed GT funnily enough about Obama. He was warned on countless occasions and eventually brigged. Now I don't like doing that and don't want to but it is just a lesson. Please take heed.
Takeda Shingen
09-23-10, 04:37 PM
The threads may start on different topics, but they all seem to end up in the same place.
:nope:
Yes, they do. And no one is trying to stop naturally-evolving discussions. If it goes there, it goes there. My gripe, and the gripe of others, is about starting a new thread every time someone reads something or hears something they don't like about Obama. Yesterday, for example, there were three threads made about the president in less than a 12-hour period and all by the same poster. That is textbook topic spamming.
Fine if discussions evolve. Fine if you want to add to the existing threads. Fine if you post a new topic every once in awhile. Topic spamming, however, is annoying and clutters the forums. It is for that reason that the rule exists.
Not saying that you were making that point, razark. I just used the opportunity to clarify my view of the matter.
EDIT: And it is not about Obama. The same stance was taken on Bush, Iraq, DRM, Islam, Starforce, et al.
Tchocky
09-23-10, 04:45 PM
Hehe, there are a few "too many Obama threads" discussions going on, in separate threads :P
Takeda Shingen
09-23-10, 04:46 PM
Hehe, there are a few "too many Obama threads" discussions going on, in separate threads :P
Yes, the terrible irony has not been lost on me. :haha:
Ducimus
09-23-10, 04:47 PM
I post this image, just to make bubblehead happy. :O:
Enjoy....
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/33500/Obama-The-Demon--33963.jpg
Task Force
09-23-10, 04:53 PM
I still say a political forum would do best. so all this stupid stuff goes there.
I myself think that GT should not be a political place, It is annoying to have to go digging for threads in all the bull, I joined subsim to have fun posting random bull with the people here, who on the most part are great people, not read "Obama (insert random thing here)"
DarkFish
09-23-10, 05:15 PM
I still say a political forum would do best. so all this stupid stuff goes there.:sign_yeah:
I still say a political forum would do best. so all this stupid stuff goes there.
I myself think that GT should not be a political place, It is annoying to have to go digging for threads in all the bull, I joined subsim to have fun posting random bull with the people here, who on the most part are great people, not read "Obama (insert random thing here)"
+1
GT could sure use a break from all the Obama & Islam theads.
Task Force
09-23-10, 05:27 PM
OAH!!! I JUST REALISED!!!! I made my first "un-spammy" posts.... (pats self on the back.)
*clears throught*
Business as usualy gentlemen.:)
SteamWake
09-23-10, 07:52 PM
IBTOB :O:
I still say a political forum would do best. so all this stupid stuff goes there.
I've asked this 2-3 times in the past, but for some reason (that I don't recall) it's not a feasable option.
Bubblehead1980
09-23-10, 09:07 PM
I post this image, just to make bubblehead happy. :O:
Enjoy....
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/33500/Obama-The-Demon--33963.jpg
LOL Ducimus :har:
krashkart
09-23-10, 11:02 PM
OAH!!! I JUST REALISED!!!! I made my first "un-spammy" posts.... (pats self on the back.)
Shame on you! :O:
Or... congratulations? :hmmm:
Obama ate my cat! :stare:
Carry on. :D
Jimbuna
09-24-10, 02:54 AM
I still say a political forum would do best. so all this stupid stuff goes there.
I myself think that GT should not be a political place, It is annoying to have to go digging for threads in all the bull, I joined subsim to have fun posting random bull with the people here, who on the most part are great people, not read "Obama (insert random thing here)"
Agreed :yep:
Castout
09-24-10, 03:19 AM
LOL Ducimus :har:
Aaah I mistakenly started the other thread.....
So is that his half brother? He needs a dentist FAST and some plastic surgery for his lips. The horn is fine it can stay. Americans would love it.
And oh no more smoking marijuana for that guy if he ever wanted to get into politics. His eyes betrayed him.
Zachstar
09-24-10, 06:36 AM
Well if that happens razark, it happens but its not spamming, it would get confusing and difficult to follow a discussion if everyone even related to Obama were in one thread.
So I implore everyone to ignore the ridiculous request to only post in the Obama thread if its a different subject such as healthcare etc that may end up with Obama mentioned.This is just certain people making an effort to slow down the debate.
I agree, if it's just about Obama, post here but if its a different subject that may involve him a some point, create a new thread.
Example1:I am sick of Obama, he is scum etc etc....post here
Example2:The Healthcare bill is already harming America.I can't believe Barry O signed it.The taxes and so on.Post in a new thread.
You just advocated an outright an outright breech of the rules. I would report you but the mods are here anyway. Stop making trouble and just comply.
This is NOT YOUR FORUM nor is it mine It is Neals and whoever he has chosen to co admin it.
Zachstar
09-24-10, 06:39 AM
Yes, they do. And no one is trying to stop naturally-evolving discussions. If it goes there, it goes there. My gripe, and the gripe of others, is about starting a new thread every time someone reads something or hears something they don't like about Obama. Yesterday, for example, there were three threads made about the president in less than a 12-hour period and all by the same poster. That is textbook topic spamming.
Fine if discussions evolve. Fine if you want to add to the existing threads. Fine if you post a new topic every once in awhile. Topic spamming, however, is annoying and clutters the forums. It is for that reason that the rule exists.
Not saying that you were making that point, razark. I just used the opportunity to clarify my view of the matter.
EDIT: And it is not about Obama. The same stance was taken on Bush, Iraq, DRM, Islam, Starforce, et al.
Starforce is fine.. Steam is better! Thank geez we dont have the old starfroce anymore tho.
Glad the mods are getting things cleaned up.
The mods could always just merger all the Obama threads into one if it bothers everyone so much.
krashkart
09-24-10, 07:20 AM
The mods could always just merger all the Obama threads into one if it bothers everyone so much.
I think that was done at some point... must have been yesterday after the breaking point.
Sailor Steve
09-24-10, 01:04 PM
When the only threads someone ever starts are all on the same topic, it is indeed spamming.
The mods could always just merger all the Obama threads into one if it bothers everyone so much.
They did. That's why someone felt he needed to start this new one. :dead:
This new one was supposed to be for those merged threads... :dead: Or at least make it so those threads no longer needed to be posted in.
But as they say on Top Gear...
Ambitious but rubbish!
mookiemookie
09-24-10, 01:30 PM
The mods could always just merger all the Obama threads into one if it bothers everyone so much.
Or Third Man can stop spamming them in the first place.
Bubblehead1980
09-24-10, 01:34 PM
You just advocated an outright an outright breech of the rules. I would report you but the mods are here anyway. Stop making trouble and just comply.
This is NOT YOUR FORUM nor is it mine It is Neals and whoever he has chosen to co admin it.
You just sounded like a 5th grader.....ooo ooo teacher i think he broke a rule :88) Not making trouble and will not comply because there is nothing as far as I know in the rules about you can only do so and so in a thread.There was not topic spamming going on.I explained in the post how it will be and encouraged others to do so.Reasonable to have a post about Obama in an Obama thread but if there is an issue such as so and so law and it may happen to involve Obama, should be posted in a seperated thread so don't get your panties in a wad.
I did not advocate a breaking of the "rules" because not advocating spamming.This may indeed be his forum if you want to look at it like that but as said nothing about "you must post about this in said thread" in the rules as far as I know so calm down.Don't like it? well you can just, well nevermind:arrgh!:
http://i859.photobucket.com/albums/ab158/nefth/Gifs/rbf76ojpg.gif
Takeda Shingen
09-24-10, 01:42 PM
Bubblehead, you might want to read what one of the GT moderators wrote to you again:
bubblehead I merged all the Obama threads as they were essentially all along the same lines, basically about how bad Obama and his policies are.
No one is shutting down discussion as there was little discussion, just post after post about how bad Obama is and how he is destroying America in particular how you feel about him. Now you can post in the merged thread or this one but when I come into GT and see several Obama related threads that are nothing but opinion generated as fact and that they seem to be dominating GT then house will be cleaned.
I don't know if you were here at the time but we had a user called subman1 who basically spammed GT funnily enough about Obama. He was warned on countless occasions and eventually brigged. Now I don't like doing that and don't want to but it is just a lesson. Please take heed.
He laid out the rules very clearly. Ignore them if you want, but it will be at your own risk.
frau kaleun
09-24-10, 03:07 PM
This may indeed be his forum if you want to look at it like that
There's no 'may' about it, and it's not a matter of how you or anyone else looks at it. The Subsim forums are, essentially, a bit of electronic private property that the owner has opened up for public use, with the terms of use posted for all to see. You can "look at it" any way you like, but your perspective isn't the one that sets the terms or decides if and when they're being violated.
Imagine walking into someone's home, taking a dump on their carpet, and then arguing that you have every right to do so even when it's pointed out to you that 1) there's a sign on the wall saying "Don't Crap Here, signed, The Owner" and 2) others have been forcibly removed from the place by the owner or his representatives for doing exactly the same thing. Surely you understand the concept of private property and the rights of a property owner to set the terms regarding who's allowed to be there and who isn't?
Eh, whatever. Hey Dowly, pass the popcorn!
Eh, whatever. Hey Dowly, pass the popcorn!
Ok ok, but just half a spoon!
http://sp.life123.com/bm.pix/popcorn1_bowl-of-popcorn.s600x600.jpg
There's no 'may' about it, and it's not a matter of how you or anyone else looks at it. The Subsim forums are, essentially, a bit of electronic private property that the owner has opened up for public use, with the terms of use posted for all to see. You can "look at it" any way you like, but your perspective isn't the one that sets the terms or decides if and when they're being violated.
And this is how it is, this is Neal's place (yes, I have challenged that argument many a times, not proud of those moments). Neal is the one who pays the bills from his own money and whatever donations he gets. So, Bubblehead, if you don't like how the system works here, leave. :salute:
frau kaleun
09-24-10, 03:16 PM
Ok ok, but just half a spoon!
:nope:
No, no, no you don't understand how it works.When Mama says pass the popcorn, Boytoy PASSES HER THE POPCORN. And not by the sorry half-a-spoonful.
Now go make me my own tub o' 'corn, you li'l scamp. And peel me a grape while yer at it. :O:
When Mama Says, Now We Talking :haha:
:nope:
No, no, no you don't understand how it works.When Mama says pass the popcorn, Boytoy PASSES HER THE POPCORN. And not by the sorry half-a-spoonful.
Now go make me my own tub o' 'corn, you li'l scamp. And peel me a grape while yer at it. :O:
And they said it was a laid back job. :shifty:
*sigh* Your popcorn madam
http://popcornboxes.net/wp-content/uploads/popcorn-bags.jpg
I'm terribly sorry madam, I couldn't find grapes anywhere. :oops:
frau kaleun
09-24-10, 03:32 PM
When Mama Says, Now We Talking :haha:
Dear lord he's one of those... :doh: :O:
Dear lord he's one of those... :doh: :O:
MILFsters? :O:
frau kaleun
09-24-10, 04:07 PM
MILFsters? :O:
I was thinking more in terms of an unresolved Oedipal complex. :O:
conspiracy at the highest level :o
When the only threads someone ever starts are all on the same topic, it is indeed spamming.
They did. I know they could do it again is my suggestion.
Or Third Man can stop spamming them in the first place.Or that.:yep:
Or we could fill them all with the usual OT spam.:88)
DarkFish
09-24-10, 04:59 PM
Or that.:yep:
Or we could fill them all with the usual OT spam.:88)Aye! Spam the spammers so they can spam no more!:arrgh!:
Never ending story, :yawn:
I was thinking more in terms of an unresolved Oedipal complex. :O:
*goes to google*
:hmmm:
Let's just call him a MILFster. :yep:
Never ending story, :yawn:
I loved that movie as a kid.... then I realised it actually ends... never seen it again since then. :nope:
*goes to google*
:hmmm:
Let's just call him a MILFster. :yep:
I loved that movie as a kid.... then I realised it actually ends... never seen it again since then. :nope: :haha:
Bubblehead1980
09-24-10, 06:12 PM
There's no 'may' about it, and it's not a matter of how you or anyone else looks at it. The Subsim forums are, essentially, a bit of electronic private property that the owner has opened up for public use, with the terms of use posted for all to see. You can "look at it" any way you like, but your perspective isn't the one that sets the terms or decides if and when they're being violated.
Imagine walking into someone's home, taking a dump on their carpet, and then arguing that you have every right to do so even when it's pointed out to you that 1) there's a sign on the wall saying "Don't Crap Here, signed, The Owner" and 2) others have been forcibly removed from the place by the owner or his representatives for doing exactly the same thing. Surely you understand the concept of private property and the rights of a property owner to set the terms regarding who's allowed to be there and who isn't?
Eh, whatever. Hey Dowly, pass the popcorn!
lol I fully understand private property rights etc As long as not topic spamming, starting a thread on an issue that may involve BHO but is not about him is not in violation.I basically agree with the Obama thread idea IF the topic is about Obama but not right to try and force people to post anything related to BHO on one thread.As said, if it's about Obama, people should post in this thread.If it's about a political subject where Barry may be mentioned at some point, then users have every right to create a seperate thread.I think even the stuffiest moderator could agree with me on that.
I loved that movie as a kid.... then I realised it actually ends... never seen it again since then. :nope:[/QUOTE] your dream,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3khTntOxX-k
If it's about a political subject where Barry may be mentioned at some point, then users have every right to create a seperate thread.
You only have the rights you are given here. Neal can start keelhauling people for the use of "is" if he so chooses to, it's his website.
I think even the stuffiest moderator could agree with me on that.
I doubt it.
frau kaleun
09-24-10, 06:28 PM
lol I fully understand private property rights etc As long as not topic spamming, starting a thread on an issue that may involve BHO but is not about him is not in violation.I basically agree with the Obama thread idea IF the topic is about Obama but not right to try and force people to post anything related to BHO on one thread.As said, if it's about Obama, people should post in this thread.If it's about a political subject where Barry may be mentioned at some point, then users have every right to create a seperate thread.I think even the stuffiest moderator could agree with me on that.
I think the issue here is that someone starts a thread on a topic without it being an "Obama thread," but at the point where Obama is brought into it, it is done in a way that does not specifically address the original topic in any thoughtful manner. Instead it's just another post consisting of the same old invective that adds nothing to any discussion except yet another post in a series of endless reiterations of how much the poster hates Obama.
It would be like someone who hates SH3 going to the SH3 forum and replying to thread after thread, not with something meaningful regarding the questions being asked or issues being reported or experiences being shared, but with some angry rant about how much SH3 sucks. Over and over again, until it drowns out almost everything else.
If all you have to say is that you think Obama sucks, fine. But if that's the primary or only sentiment you have to add to a discussion about some topic on a political or social issue, it gets old. Really fast.
It would be like someone who hates SH3 going to the SH3 forum and replying to thread after thread, not with something meaningful regarding the questions being asked or issues being reported or experiences being shared, but with some angry rant about how much SH3 sucks. Over and over again, until it drowns out almost everything else.
Ah, brings back memories. :DL I actually saw Terrapin, well atleast a guy called Terrapin on some site week or so ago... just can't remember where. :-? Ah, good old days... Gizzmoe should really come back and take over GT. :haha:
I think the issue here is that someone starts a thread on a topic without it being an "Obama thread," but at the point where Obama is brought into it, it is done in a way that does not specifically address the original topic in any thoughtful manner. Instead it's just another post consisting of the same old invective that adds nothing to any discussion except yet another post in a series of endless reiterations of how much the poster hates Obama.
It would be like someone who hates SH3 going to the SH3 forum and replying to thread after thread, not with something meaningful regarding the questions being asked or issues being reported or experiences being shared, but with some angry rant about how much SH3 sucks. Over and over again, until it drowns out almost everything else.
If all you have to say is that you think Obama sucks, fine. But if that's the primary or only sentiment you have to add to a discussion about some topic on a political or social issue, it gets old. Really fast.Like that's never happened anywhere on Subsim before.:har::har:
I love the fact that the biggest argument in the Obama thread is whether or not it is the right place to have an argument about Obama.:haha::haha:
Sailor Steve
09-24-10, 07:58 PM
I was thinking more in terms of an unresolved Oedipal complex. :O:
You do realize of course that I...uh, Oedipus never actually wanted to do any of those things. :shifty:
frau kaleun
09-24-10, 08:06 PM
You do realize of course that I...uh, Oedipus never actually wanted to do any of those things. :shifty:
No... but maybe Freud did. :O:
frau kaleun
09-24-10, 08:07 PM
I love the fact that the biggest argument in the Obama thread is whether or not it is the right place to have an argument about Obama.:haha::haha:
The Internets is a wonderful thing. :D
The Internets is a wonderful thing. :D
Yes but a pale shadow of real life.:D
Bubblehead1980
09-25-10, 03:27 AM
Like that's never happened anywhere on Subsim before.:har::har:
I love the fact that the biggest argument in the Obama thread is whether or not it is the right place to have an argument about Obama.:haha::haha:
oh I agree, just how it happens I suppose.I feel something is right or wrong, I fight for or against it, to the end.:arrgh!:
oh I agree, just how it happens I suppose.I feel something is right or wrong, I fight for or against it, to the end.:arrgh!:
Ok, no problem with that...So what's the plan? Continued threads/posts in subsim until Obama gets the message and resigns? :hmmm:
.
Zachstar
09-25-10, 05:26 AM
lol I fully understand private property rights etc As long as not topic spamming, starting a thread on an issue that may involve BHO but is not about him is not in violation.I basically agree with the Obama thread idea IF the topic is about Obama but not right to try and force people to post anything related to BHO on one thread.As said, if it's about Obama, people should post in this thread.If it's about a political subject where Barry may be mentioned at some point, then users have every right to create a seperate thread.I think even the stuffiest moderator could agree with me on that.
Who wants bets on when he will be the next Subman1 in the brig?
My bet is within 6 months.
1980..1 :P The mods put it out quickly. And you have no rights on this forum.
When a mod specifically compares your actions to SUBMAN1's take heed.
This Obama gets around a lot here...
Welcome to Obama Sims..:shifty:
Sailor Steve
09-25-10, 01:02 PM
Yes but a pale shadow of real life.:D
I wouldn't know. :oops::cry:
From the annoyed tone of the left in here, shall I assume that there were few Bush threads within a few months of the mid-term elections in 2002 and 2006?
I know in other forums, it was pretty much wall-to-wall anti-Bush threads with links to exciting stuff from dailykos, DU, huffpo, and other sites for the crazy left. Once it was a few months removed from an election, it was only maybe 50% anti-Bush, with hot chicks taking up the rest of the postings :)
I wasn't here at the time, do tell.
Milking the Obama thread, so ordinary people can rest :O:
Jimbuna
09-25-10, 02:16 PM
Milking the Obama thread, so ordinary people can rest :O:
ROFLMAO :rotfl2:
Milking the Obama thread, so ordinary people can rest :O:
Are I get it!
The rest of us can chat about non Obama topics. :woot:
Thank God, that you heard my prayer :yep:
Jimbuna
09-25-10, 02:46 PM
Thank God, that you heard my prayer :yep:
I wish someone would hear mine...
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9425/praydl5rp5.gif
I wish someone would hear mine...
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/9425/praydl5rp5.gif so why rush him in the evening, he certainly has a lot to do on the job :roll:
Bubblehead1980
09-25-10, 03:07 PM
From the annoyed tone of the left in here, shall I assume that there were few Bush threads within a few months of the mid-term elections in 2002 and 2006?
I know in other forums, it was pretty much wall-to-wall anti-Bush threads with links to exciting stuff from dailykos, DU, huffpo, and other sites for the crazy left. Once it was a few months removed from an election, it was only maybe 50% anti-Bush, with hot chicks taking up the rest of the postings :)
I wasn't here at the time, do tell.
The one's complaining about the Obama posts were the Lefties, of course.The Left are pros at whining, thats why they are Liberals.Oh he makes more money than me, oh I think so and so was discriminated again, oh not enough diversity, oooh ooh teacher teacher etc etc Doubt they whined when every other post was relating to Bush as said.Then again, until the end Bush was not hated nearly as much as Obama because well Bush was not always wrong unlike Barry.
Bubblehead1980
09-25-10, 03:11 PM
Ok, no problem with that...So what's the plan? Continued threads/posts in subsim until Obama gets the message and resigns? :hmmm:.
lol if it were only that easy but this is a discussion forum, these are things that should be discussed.
Takeda Shingen
09-25-10, 03:12 PM
The one's complaining about the Obama posts were the Lefties, of course.
Oh, really?
Bubblehead1980
09-25-10, 03:20 PM
Oh, really?
I meant to say, mostly Lefties.
Sailor Steve
09-26-10, 01:02 AM
The one's complaining about the Obama posts were the Lefties, of course.The Left are pros at whining, thats why they are Liberals.Oh he makes more money than me, oh I think so and so was discriminated again, oh not enough diversity, oooh ooh teacher teacher etc etc Doubt they whined when every other post was relating to Bush as said.Then again, until the end Bush was not hated nearly as much as Obama because well Bush was not always wrong unlike Barry.
And you still claim to be fair and balanced? Only someone on the far, far right uses terms like that.
lol if it were only that easy but this is a discussion forum, these are things that should be discussed.
But you never discuss things. Instead you make wild pronouncements and try to demean anyone who disagrees. The only person you're making look foolish with this nonsense is yourself.
antikristuseke
09-26-10, 02:20 AM
He is fair and balanced in the same way Fox news is fair and balanced.
JokerOfFate
09-26-10, 02:32 AM
I meant to say, mostly Lefties.
I'm also left handed.
Thats not a fair point I don't know there are many left handed people here and also how would you know if they're left handed or not?:hmmm:
XabbaRus
09-26-10, 05:14 AM
And that Bubblehead is why I made a dump thread as all the obama related topics end up in the same place all the time.
As for me being a liberal and lefty I'd love to know how you know that.
To be honest I put them all together as they were cluttering up the forum. Obama's politics and that of the US really hasn't anything to do with me as it doesn't affect me so my political leanings either left or right have nothing to do with me lumping it all together.
You say you are studying law but heck I wouldn't have know unless you said.
Tea Party law obviously :03:
Sailor Steve
09-26-10, 11:35 AM
I'm also left handed.
Thats not a fair point I don't know there are many left handed people here and also how would you know if they're left handed or not?:hmmm:
Because they are typically gauche, sinister, or both. :O:
:rotfl2:
He is fair and balanced in the same way Fox news is fair and balanced.
The news on Fox (not the other shows that are explicitly opinion shows) is slightly right of US center. Very slightly. There have ben several university studies of broadcast media, and they seem to land the major outlets similarly. Fox is slightly right, NPR is slightly left, and all the other TV/radio outlets are left of NPR. On the one I most recently recall, NPR, while left, was also closest to the center—followed by Fox, actually (Fox is considerably less "right" than CBS is "left" for example.
Just offering a reality check, though when virtually all the other media is (editorially) an echo chamber, it probably seems farther right than it actually is. Again, the actual NEWS shows, not crap like hannity, o'reiley, etc.
I don't watch Fox—or any TV news-myself, though I listen to NPR every morning.
antikristuseke
09-26-10, 04:14 PM
True ennough, but the actual news segments there are few and far between. The vast majority of their programing seems to bew opinion pieces presented as fact. I am not saying others are better, mind you. I used to watch fox news when I needed a laugh.
Edit: Anyway it is not the direction of the slant that bothers me, but the fact that a channel that has ****ing news in its name does not actually deal with news.
True ennough, but the actual news segments there are few and far between. The vast majority of their programing seems to bew opinion pieces presented as fact. I am not saying others are better, mind you. I used to watch fox news when I needed a laugh.
Edit: Anyway it is not the direction of the slant that bothers me, but the fact that a channel that has ****ing news in its name does not actually deal with news.
That's not terribly fair. Try watching CNN or MSNBC(CNBC, etc) some time. Look for a NEWS show. LOL. Even "Headline News" is now rarely news. Lat time I decided to watch some TV news, I tried (unsuccessfully) to find any on ANY 24/7 "news" channel. They were all doing talk shows, the only "news" was the crawler.
So they ALL do it (cable outlets).
And those shows are opinion, plain and simple. Who exactly thinks they are "fact" and not opinion shows?
I used to sometimes watch TV news. I liked Brit Hume's news on FOx, seems much the same as any other TV news to me.
I think ALL broadcast media news suffers from the lack of a stated editorial policy. I read the NYT. I know it is leftist. It says so right on the editorial page. That allows the reader to filter the information. If you know that paper X only ever endorses a Republican for some minor office, and always goes dem on "real" elections, then you know that their news stories will also be biased in that direction (ALL news (real news) is biased, too, period).
Having a stated editorial slant is at least honest. All TV news acts as if they are unbiased, which is BS.
frau kaleun
09-26-10, 04:35 PM
Because they are typically gauche, sinister, or both. :O:
Links, bitte?
antikristuseke
09-26-10, 04:36 PM
We don't get those channels here, no longer get fox either for that mater. Did you miss the part where i stated that I am not saying the other "news" networks are better?
We don't get those channels here, no longer get fox either for that mater. Did you miss the part where i stated that I am not saying the other "news" networks are better?
No, i saw that. I was just throwing more info out there. Do TV news outlets outside the US endorse candidates as newspapers do, or do they also pretend they have no bias?
antikristuseke
09-26-10, 05:27 PM
Over here they don't endorse, but they arent completely unbiased either. For propaganda purpouses parties have their own "newspapers" which only complete morons take seriously.
But since there are several parties here our society isn't ridiculously polarized and such a thing as constructive criticizm, though rare, actually exists.
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