Even the queers don't like Obama

[The Third Man]

Obama heckled on AIDS, gay rights at fundraiser



NEW YORK — President Barack Obama has been heckled at a fundraiser by protesters pushing for more funding for AIDS programs and quicker action to allow gays to serve openly in the military.

Obama responded by insisting he's increased AIDS funding and was working to overturn the military's so-called "don't ask, don't tell" policy. He told the protesters to go shout at Republicans, noting that a vote on "don't ask, don't tell" failed this week in the Senate, with Republicans united in opposition.

The protest happened as Obama raised money at the Roosevelt Hotel for the House and Senate Democratic campaign committees.
Activists yelled and held signs aloft reading, "Obama broken promises kill." Supporters of the president tried to drown them out.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5htRJdURCj4sbBbkO8QVWV3zDCyXgD9ID8Q5O1

Video We are going to do that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002928-503544.html

[Bubblehead1980]

Obama heckled on AIDS, gay rights at fundraiser




http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5htRJdURCj4sbBbkO8QVWV3zDCyXgD9ID8Q5O1

Video We are going to do that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002928-503544.html


I have nothing against Gay people but I HATE the gay lobby.Esp on DADT.That policy is there for morale purposes of the majority.The homosexuals simply have to keep their private life, well private.I know that is a crazy idea because many think they should be able to flaunt it but it's the military, deal with it or don't join.End of story.

[SteamWake]

Even the Queers??

Talk about inflamitory.

[The Third Man]

Even the Queers??

Talk about inflamitory.

These folks certantly are not happy or gay, they are queer.

[GoldenRivet]

LOL

[SteamWake]

How odd.

[The Third Man]

Another voting group which disfavors the hopey/changey.

[gimpy117]

easy with that "queers" crap. I am not one of them, but calling fellow Americans derogatory names is never okay.

[GoldenRivet]

what about "queer eye for the straight guy"?

they dont seem to mind it :timeout:

[mookiemookie]

Hey look, it's an Obama thread!

[Aramike]

Hey look, it's an Obama thread!Dude, did you have a problem with it when it was "Hey look, it's a Bush thread!"?

[Zachstar]

Sensationalist title: Check

Bunch of crap: Check

Yep Obama thread indeed :damn:

[Aramike]

Sensationalist title: Check

Bunch of crap: Check

Yep Obama thread indeed :damn:You forgot:

Stereotypical Party-Line Democrat Zachstar Opposed to Thread: Check

[Castout]

Moral of the story: Republicans are very very worry about Obama (the thoughts of a second term drives them crazy)

At least that's how I take it.
The Republicans have their press engine to thank for :hmmm: running at full speed to trample on Mr. Obama.

It must be hard on Obama all that pressure . . . . . .from those politicized news.

America needs at least 4 political parties imo to spread even the bastards LOL. I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican supporter. I'm not even a US citizen but I'm concerned how some media is trying hard to pull down Mr Obama's popularity with charged news. I don't see that with any previous US president. Bush went unpopular genuinely and credibly on his last days due to his own actions and policies for example.

My worry is not that the Americans would antagonize the president(largely due to Republican media attempt) but rather the President antagonizing the Americans. I live thousand of miles away yet I feel that Mr Obama is being cooked up there.

[Aramike]

Moral of the story: Republicans are very very worry about Obama

At least that's how I take it.
The Republican have their press engine to thank for :hmmm:Really?

Nice work, Captain Obvious.

Why shouldn't Republicans be concerned? Obama stands against everything they stand for.

[GoldenRivet]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_JGyMlGQKTSM/TJrdDH5goLI/AAAAAAAAAbE/KUOZPqvUpBQ/s1600/amer+ica.jpg

[ETR3(SS)]

A house divided cannot stand. Personally I believe that by aligning yourself with one party or another you are contributing to that division.

[Aramike]

A house divided cannot stand. Personally I believe that by aligning yourself with one party or another you are contributing to that division.Wise words, those. :salute:

[razark]

A house divided cannot stand. Personally I believe that by aligning yourself with one party or another you are contributing to that division.
So the question is, how do we break away from the two-party system, and what will replace it?

[GoldenRivet]

the question is not breaking away from the two party system.

the question is; how do we encourage the leadership within the parties to work together in a bipartisan way to give us the best possible result?

the answer is - revolution.

"a little revolution is a good thing, dont you think?"

once every few decades you have to - as a voting people - shake things up... throw everything on its side.

i think thats why there have been so many tea party successes recently.

people are upset with the dems over their recent activities... and they are sick of republicans for their past transgressions.

so - hopefully - you will see old timers who have held on to their seats for a long time getting the boot and being replaced with fresh representation.

you have to send the leadership a message that none of their jobs are safe

[razark]

the question is not breaking away from the two party system.

the question is; how do we encourage the leadership within the parties to work together in a bipartisan way to give us the best possible result?
Ahem:
Hey look, it's an Obama thread!
Dude, did you have a problem with it when it was "Hey look, it's a Bush thread!"?
Sensationalist title: Check

Bunch of crap: Check

Yep Obama thread indeed :damn:
You forgot:

Stereotypical Party-Line Democrat Zachstar Opposed to Thread: Check

Why should we expect the leadership of the parties to work together when the citizens they represent are so polarized?
(No offense to those quoted, just citing an example)

[Castout]

Really?

Nice work, Captain Obvious.

Why shouldn't Republicans be concerned? Obama stands against everything they stand for.

Well for one I wasn't even trying to conceal anything so if it was obvious then I made my point :O:.

So what actually the Republicans stand for again? Torture? Going to war based on lying to the American public, reeling the economy by expending so much for two wars on extended period of time perhaps even neglecting the economy altogether?

But like I said I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican, so if you can explain to me what the Republicans now stand for that's the opposite of Mr Obama's and if they are good and honest I'll defend them likewise.


HONEST! I'LL you just have to convince me.

So the question is, how do we break away from the two-party system, and what will replace it?

One party fascism?

So thou shalt not be divided among yourselves in your own house. :O:

[razark]

the answer is - revolution.
...
so - hopefully - you will see old timers who have held on to their seats for a long time getting the boot and being replaced with fresh representation.

you have to send the leadership a message that none of their jobs are safe
And replace them with new leadership, representing the same views, each one unacceptable to the other side?

That accomplishes nothing, except getting new names in the news...

[ETR3(SS)]

We the people hold the ultimate power in the United States. We choose who will be our President and our Congressmen. It is the duty and responsibility of every citizen to become informed about the candidates and their stances. From there the people can determine the path that America takes. If you vote someone in and they don't follow through then vote them out next election and let someone else take their place.

[GoldenRivet]

You may find the citizens are more aligned to the center than you think.

They are polarized because the leadership is polarizing and divisive.

And, unfortunately the leadership does a great deal of thinking for a lot of people out there

[Spoon 11th]

Even the segways don't like Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TshFWSsrn8

[mookiemookie]

Dude, did you have a problem with it when it was "Hey look, it's a Bush thread!"?

If there were 50 new ones started a day? Yeah, I probably would.

[Aramike]

If there were 50 new ones started a day? Yeah, I probably would.Short memory, then, because they seemed about as frequent as the anti-Obama threads are now.

Bottom line? There's a palpable anger out there regarding this guy.

[Aramike]

So what actually the Republicans stand for again? Torture? Going to war based on lying to the American public, reeling the economy by expending so much for two wars on extended period of time perhaps even neglecting the economy altogether?Perhaps you're neither Republican or Democrat but you're certainly a Daily Kos far left liberal, due to your usage of the standard talking points. As such, there's very little point in attempting to reason with you.

[antikristuseke]

Short memory, then, because they seemed about as frequent as the anti-Obama threads are now.

Bottom line? There's a palpable anger out there regarding this guy.

As there was with Bush. Same ****, different *******. Nothing has really changed.

[Aramike]

As there was with Bush. Same ****, different *******. Nothing has really changed.Precisely.

[mookiemookie]

Short memory, then, because they seemed about as frequent as the anti-Obama threads are now.

Bottom line? There's a palpable anger out there regarding this guy.

The majority of the spam seems to be coming from one source.

[Takeda Shingen]

The majority of the spam seems to be coming from one source.

Yes. Seems more like a 'rally the vote' initiative. Not a new tactic here, but I still dislike it when people use the forums to further political and social agendas, particularly when done ad naseum.

Oh, and I did complain about the excessive Bush topics. And Iraq topics. And Starforce topics. And Islam topics. And DRM topics.

[SteamWake]

Jesus... you guys just dont get it do you?

Subsim forums aside there is a goodly percentage of the american citizenship which is basically fed up.

Obama Care 30% support, Obama 40% approval (and thats being generous). Democrats and RINOs losing seats at a record pace. Harry Reid's approval 8%. 8 freakin percent. Pelosi follows up at a close 15%.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20000937-503544.html

That is the population at large, all parties, all dispositions not just a few guys who post in some forum. The other liberal leaning voices in these forums tend to be a lot 'louder' than the general population.

There is indeed real palpable dissatisfaction not seen before.

[AVGWarhawk]

There is an over abundance of Obama threads but given the political climate it is understandable. Members must choose what threads they would like to participate in. For those threads that bore or disdain please do not participate.

[mookiemookie]

Jesus... you guys just dont get it do you?

Subsim forums aside there is a goodly percentage of the american citizenship which is basically fed up.

Obama Care 30% support, Obama 40% approval (and thats being generous). Democrats and RINOs losing seats at a record pace. Harry Reid's approval 8%. 8 freakin percent. Pelosi follows up at a close 15%.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20000937-503544.html

That is the population at large, all parties, all dispositions not just a few guys who post in some forum. The other liberal leaning voices in these forums tend to be a lot 'louder' than the general population.

There is indeed real palpable dissatisfaction not seen before.

So what? Do we need 10 threads a day on the same topic? Any topic? What if I posted 10 threads a day about the Houston Texans? Hey, they're off to a 2-0 start, there's a lot of palpable excitement about them. So is that license to spam a forum with Texans topics?

It's the same as the DRM crap that choked the SH5 forum a few months back. Seeing the same posters starting 10 threads a day bitching about DRM was just as tiresome as this. You don't like Obama. Fine. We get it. Do we need to be reminded every 2 hours that you still don't like Obama?

[SteamWake]

Like the man said no one forces you to participate in let alone read them.

Personally I have not particpated in this thread save one or two posts.

Just change the channell.

[mookiemookie]

Well why not let the Chinese fake Rolex posts take over? Or the Russian prescription drug spam? Hey if you don't like those posts, no one's forcing you to read them, right?

[Takeda Shingen]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item_language


Please do not engage in "topic spamming", where you post several threads on the essentially the same topic in a short period of time. If you want to discuss women's synchronized swimming, fine; start a topic on it. But don't start another topic on women's synchronized swimming clothing, women's synchronized swimming schedules, etc. for several weeks. Same goes with threads on politics, religon, and cultural issues. We don't need six threads on "Obama is ruining America" and eight topics on "Arabs are Evillll!" on the same page.

:know:

[krashkart]

First! :yeah:

Aw $#@%... third page. :damn:

[Oberon]

In before Oba-aww dammit... :wah:

[mookiemookie]

In before Oba-aww dammit... :wah:

This is GT. You will never. ever. be in before that. :03:

[Bubblehead1980]

There is real anger by a majority of people at Obama because he constantly goes against what majority ofthe American people want.Add in his not so American agenda with the pure sleaze factor that got things like Obamacare passed, people are fed up.We have had bad Presidents but never one like Obama, this guy is out there and many have seen that or are starting to.Given all that anger and the fact that many relevant stories relating to Obama and his admin arise in a given day, they are going to end up on the forum.If you don't like it, then don't read it!

[krashkart]

All the issues that have been raised and will be raised are essentially about the same guy, so why not pile it on in one or two discussion thread((s) rather than opening a new topic for every little thing the President does? We have the option not to read these threads, but it's starting to get on some nerves that there are so many of them.

[Aramike]

The majority of the spam seems to be coming from one source.I suppose I can't argue with that.

[Oberon]

Given all that anger and the fact that many relevant stories relating to Obama and his admin arise in a given day, they are going to end up on the forum.If you don't like it, then don't read it!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_new_faq_item_language

Please do not engage in "topic spamming", where you post several threads on the essentially the same topic in a short period of time. If you want to discuss women's synchronized swimming, fine; start a topic on it. But don't start another topic on women's synchronized swimming clothing, women's synchronized swimming schedules, etc. for several weeks. Same goes with threads on politics, religon, and cultural issues. We don't need six threads on "Obama is ruining America" and eight topics on "Arabs are Evillll!" on the same page.

[Oberon]

Please continue this here:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=175285

[Gerald]

I agree with it, wondering what to do if Mr. Obama were on hand :yawn:

[AngusJS]

Bottom line? There's a palpable anger out there regarding this guy.
Nice work, Captain Obvious.

[Cohaagen]

There is an over abundance of Obama threads but given the political climate it is understandable. Members must choose what threads they would like to participate in. For those threads that bore or disdain please do not participate.

What about people who might wish to start a thread on some general subject, but are discouraged by the fact that many rarely have a chance to be seen before they are quickly pushed to page 2 by one of the 6-10 American political "discussions" posted or active at any time. Or, even worse, are wary of the fact that some Americans will find just about any way they can to recast a subject so as to be seen through the demented prism of their present political debate (the level of which, frankly, would shame a Columbian and increasingly resembles pro-wrestling, but with less believable characters and poorer speechwriting).

One test might be this - would the average person drink in a bar where the content, volume and quality of overheard discussion matches that of Subsim GT? That is, an unending, 120dB, one-note sonic wall of fringe US political invective emanating from a handful of usual-suspect gob****es - ranging from typical variety Jesus/gun/flag/soldier-loving bores to full-on corn-fed cranks with an inexhaustible repertoire of moontalk about the NWO, the coming Apocalypse in America, fluoridation, and Nazis in Antarctica - who, in moments when they are aware of their surroundings, high-five each other in bad taste displays of mutual self-satisfaction...all the while deaf through self-noise to the fact that these hostile and repetitive tracts are thematically identical to any one of a billion internet threads started in the last three years and which have, in that period, by their number resulted in almost every "General Discussion" board on any forum on the web being relentlessly spammed into a "US Politics" board by default. All of this without consideration to the fact that their treatment of the subject is confusing and depressing to most users outside of the United States, and people who don't reload their own ammunition or bury their food in sealed containers. Now, saturation point having been met long ago on US outlets, a move on British sites has been necessitated - presently this human form of cane toad is busy on the online comments sections of The Daily Telegraph and The Guardian, clogging up articles about second homes in the West Country with paranoia about "anchor babies", "Dems", and whether or not Barack Hussein Obama communicates with Jomo Kenyatta through a ouija board or has installed a sweat lodge in the Oval Office.

I sometimes wonder who, the authors excepted, exactly is happy to see a "volume = right" policy succeed in giving a website with broad international appeal such a US-centric and particularly right-wing flavour.

[Tchocky]

Nazis in Antarctica - who, in moments when they are aware of their surroundings, high-five each other in bad taste displays of mutual self-satisfaction

I realise it's ex context, but I love this image.

[Takeda Shingen]

What about people who might wish to start a thread on some general subject, but are discouraged by the fact that many rarely have a chance to be seen before they are quickly pushed to page 2 by one of the 6-10 American political "discussions" posted or active at any time. Or, even worse, are wary of the fact that some Americans will find just about any way they can to recast a subject so as to be seen through the demented prism of their present political debate (the level of which, frankly, would shame a Columbian and increasingly resembles pro-wrestling, but with less believable characters and poorer speechwriting).

One test might be this - would the average person drink in a bar where the content, volume and quality of overheard discussion matches that of Subsim GT? That is, an unending, 120dB, one-note sonic wall of fringe US political invective emanating from a handful of usual-suspect gob****es - ranging from typical variety Jesus/gun/flag/soldier-loving bores to full-on corn-fed cranks with an inexhaustible repertoire of moontalk about the NWO, the coming Apocalypse in America, fluoridation, and Nazis in Antarctica - who, in moments when they are aware of their surroundings, high-five each other in bad taste displays of mutual self-satisfaction...all the while deaf through self-noise to the fact that these hostile and repetitive tracts are thematically identical to any one of a billion internet threads started in the last three years and which have, in that period, by their number resulted in almost every "General Discussion" board on any forum on the web being relentlessly spammed into a "US Politics" board by default. All of this without consideration to the fact that their treatment of the subject is confusing and depressing to most users outside of the United States, and people who don't reload their own ammunition or bury their food in sealed containers. Now, saturation point having been met long ago on US outlets, a move on British sites has been necessitated - presently this human form of cane toad is busy on the online comments sections of The Daily Telegraph and The Guardian, clogging up articles about second homes in the West Country with paranoia about "anchor babies", "Dems", and whether or not Barack Hussein Obama communicates with Jomo Kenyatta through a ouija board or has installed a sweat lodge in the Oval Office.

I sometimes wonder who, the authors excepted, exactly is happy to see a "volume = right" policy succeed in giving a website with broad international appeal such a US-centric and particularly right-wing flavour.

I wish that my own prose was so succinct. I've posted on the subject for about a week and never came anywhere near the central point as you did in three paragraphs.

[Aramike]

Nice work, Captain Obvious.Didn't seem too obvious to certain individuals earlier in the thread.

Despite that, remember to salute the captain! :salute:

[mookiemookie]

I sometimes wonder who, the authors excepted, exactly is happy to see a "volume = right" policy succeed in giving a website with broad international appeal such a US-centric and particularly right-wing flavour.

http://www.pinqradio.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/applause.gif

[Cohaagen]

Thanks, guys. I was only moved to comment because things have been so consistently bad for so long. To the point, in fact, that I almost feel excluded from GT, as I suspect do many others outside of the US and, probably to a lesser extent, within.

I simply cannot understand why, with the whole internet to fill up with this crap (and believe me, they're trying), we need another general discussion board loaded to snapping point with right-wing diuresis cut n' pasted from blogs and possessing a tone that is usually reserved for shortwave radio, with nothing to serve as an interlude or counterbalance between each new post except perhaps Skybird posting his latest humourless thesis talking down at everyone.

To illustrate my point, I recently visited the IMDb board for the Mel Gibson film Edge Of Darkness, a remake of a BBC miniseries I'm very fond of, to look for topics discussing differences in the two versions. There were none to be seen, though I did find:

"What;'s wrong with selling NUKES? I WISH the US still Did This"
"This is actually a very, very right-wing anti-government movie"
"Would you trust Fox News lol? **Spoilers**"
"Very liberal friendly movie (Spoilers)"
"Why did the bad guy not have a picture of Obama?"
"Typical Liberal Claptrap"
"A Mass. Republican?!"
"I didn't know John Kerry was Republican!"You get the picture. I just think it is deeply unfair to expect people outside the US to tolerate this constant stream of loudmouthed provocation and deliberate nuisance attempts even when its sheer mass edges out other discussion. One side, at any rate, seems to be privately itching for a civil war and, as one who has to perform a pavement dance around the dog turds they leave all over the internet, I frankly would not be opposed to that provided they switch their computers off while they're doing it.