Das Boot

[Legionary74]

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[AVGWarhawk]

However, running through the Gibraltar at full speed while screaming FASTER FASTER with tons of shells flying above you, is the definition of bravery.

I didnt think it was possible to SMASH into the bottom of the ocean floor, 280 metres, and then repair the ship, resurface and make it to Laz Spezia.

Anything is possible with a little movie magic!!!! :03:

[Legionary74]

Hollywood, sure, but Germany? Whaaaaa

[SteamWake]

Its a movie. Just enjoy it.

As submarine movies go it has the least 'hollywood' of them all.

[STEED]

One of the few films where you can fart and pick your nose and blame it on the film. :haha:

[Legionary74]

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[Dan D]

The book is fiction based on what the author has experienced as a war reporter on board of the U 96.

I have read somewhere that during the patrol of U 96 that Buchheim had joined they did not sink any ships, it was an uneventful patrol, except that one day they actually went down to the bottom by accident, but at a depth of 60 - 90 meters, something like that, and had to work their way up again.

Also, there were no longer rivets in WW II German u-boats, that was WW I.
So no exploding rivets, the director said they used that as a dramatic effect for more suspense well knowing that it lacks historical accuracy.

Read the book "Das Boot", it is even better.

[SteamWake]

One of the few films where you can fart and pick your nose and blame it on the film. :haha:

Do you also knit your nosehairs? :har:

[STEED]

Do you also knit your nosehairs? :har:

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::up:


Watch out for those crabs!

[Ducimus]

It is a very good movie. I own the directors cut, and the orginal But it ultimatly is a movie, about a novel. I remember some surviving uboat captain (Eric topp? or was it Reinhard Hardigan?) said that the movie was accurate in its portrayal of boredom and life on a uboat, but to toss the rest as rubbish, or words to that effect.

[TLAM Strike]

As submarine movies go it has the least 'hollywood' of them all.


Except maybe THFRO... :03:

[Takeda Shingen]

Except maybe THFRO... :03:

Right. Caterpillar drive=Historical.

[Jimbuna]

One of the few films where you can fart and pick your nose and blame it on the film. :haha:


LOL :DL

Not a bad film...as films go...and far better than some of the Hollywood efforts.

[AVGWarhawk]

Not a bad film...as films go...and far better than some of the Hollywood efforts.


I would have to agree 100%.

[TLAM Strike]

Right. Caterpillar drive=Historical.



Historical no.... :down:

... prophetic yes... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato_1) :yeah:

MHD drives exist but it wasn't until several years after the film they discovered they were not as efficient compared to conventional drives. :yep:

They thought the pod on the Victor was a MHD at one point until better images were taken. :03:

[Sailor Steve]

This is the reason I like the Uncut version of Das Boot the best. A lot of the plot is cliched and has been used before, but the actual depiction of everyday life, and the food, and the crowding...

Those are the real reasons I watch it over and over. The action parts bore me, but I find the boring parts exciting.

Well, I never said I was normal. :88)

[Dan D]

In the book you learn that the female navy personnel at navy school has to learn how to write the German forename „Otto“ on the blackboard with a piece of chalk in the rear section.

O T T O

You get the picture.

What really happened is that the guys were staring at some female navy personnel bottoms jiggle while the female navy personnel was writing on the blackboard.

Fiction/non-Fiction.

[Sammi79]

'Das Boot' Is a revolutionary piece of film, yes it is fictional and unrealistic at times (in regard to the capacities of the type 7) but IMO it doesn't push these boundaries too far.

It is essentially a film about war, but more importantly the human aspect - as people have said, the boredom, the grime, the immense psychological and physical pressure that men are expected to endure at the command of other men who sit behind a desk thousands of miles away. Its true greatness lies in the ability to be unbiased in this respect. Sides do not really figure, while you watch it you become one of the crew, it matters not that they are German, you understand that they are :- human men, younger or more mature and they experience all the horror and excitement of war as they work together to achieve their military goals or more often to simply survive. They fear and respect their enemies with equal measure. (which is an awesome amount on both counts)

The uncut mini-series is the best I think although the cut down versions still have the same if slightly dimmed effect. The soundtrack composed by Klaus Doldinger is truly beautiful, for me it really captures the hopes, fears, torment and despair that is equivalent to the reality of that time.

[Sledgehammer427]

I remember some surviving uboat captain (Eric topp? or was it Reinhard Hardigan?) said that the movie was accurate in its portrayal of boredom and life on a uboat, but to toss the rest as rubbish, or words to that effect.

In Operation Drumbeat the surviving crewmembers made some interesting comments about Das Boot, the movie, that is. But that's another thread.

[longam]

You'll notice that every time the movie goes into action mode the Captain has a brain fart. :-?

[Sailor Steve]

In the book you learn that the female navy personnel at navy school has to learn how to write the German forename „Otto“ on the blackboard with a piece of chalk in the rear section.

O T T O

You get the picture.

What really happened is that the guys were staring at some female navy personnel bottoms jiggle while the female navy personnel was writing on the blackboard.

Fiction/non-Fiction.
More likely some typical sailors were telling typical dirty sailor jokes. It's what sailors do best.

[Buddahaid]

The propagandist Lothar-Günther Buchheim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar-G%C3%BCnther_Buchheim), who wrote the book did serve on U-96 under Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Lehmann-Willenbrock), which did make an attempt to enter the Mediterranean Sea, did get detected and hit bottom, did need to repair damage before surfacing, and did abort the attempt per Blaire's history. This boat was the "real" boat behind the story.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-96_%281940%29

[Wolfehunter]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/

This is another good one. :yeah:

[TLAM Strike]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/

This is another good one. :yeah:

If we are recommending war movies from the German perspective than I got to recommend this one:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074695/

(Although it not a German made movie)...

[Legionary74]

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[frau kaleun]

Saw it, but after seeing modern movies it makes that one look like **** :P\


Are you talking about the film WH linked to? Stalingrad? Because that's less than 20 years old.

I guess maybe my idea of a "modern" film is different, lol.

M*A*S*H being an exception..

Having pretty much grown up on the series, I was completely underwhelmed by the movie when I finally saw it. I mean, it's not awful, but certainly not as appealing as I expected.

OTOH I find much of the TV series less appealing now than what I remember, and some of it even incredibly grating, when I catch it in reruns.

TBH I found Stalingrad to be something of a let-down as well. I guess I was hoping for the "infantry version" of Das Boot or something and it just didn't live up to my expectations. :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Having pretty much grown up on the series, I was completely underwhelmed by the movie when I finally saw it. I mean, it's not awful, but certainly not as appealing as I expected.
I saw the movie in the theater, then read the book. Consequently I admitted the TV series was great, but still I never liked it.

[Legionary74]

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[Sailor Steve]

The movie wasnt good at all I dont think.
I agree...you don't think. :O:
:rotfl2:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I'm old enough to have seen the movie first, and appreciate the actual period humor. Of course the book was written by a man who was actually in Korea, and the movie was made during the Vietnam era, and shows it. But for me the series is fairly typical of movies that get shoehorned into TV, which for me means blah.